Build a Defense of Former Kansas City Chiefs
by Chris Thorman on Oct 15, 2009 8:45 PM CDT
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PrintSince it's a bit of a slow news day, I wanted to throw out what should be a good conversation starter: What former Kansas City Chiefs would you build a defense with?
A couple caveats here. First, let's make sure the players are active or at least capable of being active and at least appeared on the Chiefs roster at some point. That could be practice squad or regular season roster. It doesn't matter. Second, keep in mind that the Chiefs are running a 3-4 defense now. Do your best to pick players that make sense in that role (Although after putting together my list, this is tough).
You can just talk about which former Chiefs defensive players you think are even slightly worthy of bringing back. Like I said, this is a conversation post on a slow news day.
A good resource for you is Pro Football Reference's Chiefs page. Click on the year then click on Starters & Roster to peek at the players for each season.
My picks are after the jump. Cut and paste this list into the comments to make your own.
DE: Jared Allen
NT: Vonnie Holliday (Not the best fit but the NT is tougher)
DE: Jimmy Wilkerson
OLB: Scott Fujita
ILB: Kawika Mitchell
ILB: Kendrell Bell
OLB: Boomer (Ha!)
CB: Benny Sapp
CB: ???
SS: Bernard Pollard
FS: ???
Wow. Okay, I wrote the intro to this post and then tried to pick the players. This is tough work!
Enlighten us AP readers. What former Chiefs are even slightly worthy of being considered backups on our 32nd ranked defense?
Have fun with this. I'm off to bed early tonight.
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Terdell Sands, NT
he’s available now… drafted by the Chiefs in 2000, I think…
not saying he’s spectacular, but he’s a true NT
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Junior Siavii better fit at NT?
Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 15, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions
Siavii has slimmed down since leaving
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 15, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
KansasCityShuffle is talking Siavii?
Not surprised. Biggest Siavii homer I know.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 16, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
BUT
if I read the post more I would’ve read ACTIVE
Big Gulps EH????? All right.....Welp....See Ya Later!
Hmmm
RDE: Jared Allen
DT: Glenn Dorsey
DT: Ron Edwards
LDE: Tyson Jackson
OLB: Mike Vrabel
MLB: Kawika Mitchell
OLB: Derrick Johnson
CB: Brandon Carr
CB: Brandon Flowers
FS: Jarrad Page
SS: Bernard Pollard
Bench: Jimmy Wilkerson, Scott Fujita, Demorrio Williams, Napoleon Harris, Benny Sapp, Maurice Leggett
HC: Marty Schottenheimer
OC: Brian Schottenheimer
DC: Neither Gunther Cunningham nor Clancy Pendergast
It wouldn’t be a great defense, but it would be acceptable.
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
And
It would be a decent blend of youth and experience.
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
What part of "FORMER CHIEFS" did you not understand? :)
Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 15, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
What was I thinking, tailoring the defensive scheme to the personnel on hand? I forgot, with the Chiefs it should always be square peg into round hole. :)
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
Good Point
The Chiefs do love square peg round hole.
If the Chiefs still had Jared Allen there is no way they would be running the 3-4. If all you bring back is Allen you have a front four of Hali, Dorsey, Jackson, and Allen.
Well
That would be a front four with three defensive ends. :)
But they’d have depth.
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
C'mon now
don’t commit the same mistake Gunter did by putting Kawika at Mike. He’s plays great at LOLB and thats why he’s been more successful in NY/Buffalo.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 15, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The only...
guys out there really are Allen and Mitchell. I can’t think of anyone else. Maybe Wilkerson, but he doesn’t fit. This is hard because most of these guys are for 4-3.
Scott Fujita is also, Napoleon Harris could play is a 3-a too..
Also, I heard Chester McGlockton is coming out of retirment lol. Also, Eric Hicks, He would fit as a DE. Wilkerson could play 3-4 DE as well. Ryan Simms NT lol
by darwithabar on Oct 15, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
would be starters...
Jared Allen, Benny Sapp, Keyaron Fox, Kawika Mitchell, and Jimy Wilkerson would all be starters for our team….
The worst thing is they were even bad moves at the time of their release/trade… at least I thought so. Can’t say that for all the Herm players let go this year.
too bad
by VermeilLikesToCry on Oct 15, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
DE-Vonnie Holiday
NT-Ryan Simms
DE-Wilkerson
OLB-Jared Allen
LB-Napoleon Harris
LB-Kawika Mitchell
OLB-Scott Fujita
CB-Benny Sapp
CB-Ricardo cocullough
SS-Sammy Knight
FS-Bernard Pollard
Worset Defense ever but they all fit
DE Allen
DT Simms
DT Edwards
DE McBride
LB Fujita
LB Mitchell
LB Harris
SS Polard
FS Knight
CB Sapp
CB Surtain
It's tough, huh?
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by Chris Thorman on Oct 15, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
No Chris Johnson love?
He occassionally shows up as a Raider. Maybe thats why he’s been excluded. But great topic, Chris. Kudos.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 15, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions
It puts our bad defense into perspective
It could be a whole lot worse if we’d kept all of these guys around. Except you, Jared. You could’ve stayed.
Ah well, good luck to everyone that used to play here. I think our defense is getting better and will be very decent once our offense starts clicking a little more and converting third downs.
by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 16, 2009 1:31 AM CDT reply actions
The saddest part?
is that I’ve said for at lest five years now that “There’s one hell of a Royals team in the MLB.”. I never thought I’d come to say, “There’s one hell of a Chiefs team in the NFL”, but it’s true. It’s a sad day.
Ouch. That sinks in worse than a night of drinking whiskey alone.
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by Bryan Everson (The Royalty of Roto) on Oct 16, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Other Than Jared Allen
I wouldn’t take any of them back.
bad list
forget Kendrell Bell he is not active and will give us all ptsd. Better candidates. Why do people all forget Chris Johnson at CB, Brackenridge Patterson and Barksdale all are on rosters, Terdell Sands, Ryan Sims are space eaters, Key Fox has started this year. Junior Siavii is still in the league. However, its not the whole defense. The ones that still hurt and are tough to explain are Allen, WIlkerson, Mitchell and maybe Sapp and Fox.
by Remember Marv Levy on Oct 16, 2009 5:14 AM CDT reply actions
May as well add Derrick Johnson
Jarrad Page, and Tank Tyler, other soon to be ex Chiefs who will excel with new teams plus Monty Beisel who is already gone..
by Remember Marv Levy on Oct 16, 2009 5:22 AM CDT reply actions
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