Chiefs Coach Haley Replaces Wide Receivers Coach
by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2009 6:21 PM CDT
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PrintKansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley has made another coaching change.
After taking over as offensive coordinator for Chan Gailey prior to the season, Haley has demoted receivers coach Dedric Ward and elevated Richie Anderson in his spot according to Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star.
We're not sure exactly what's going on but it's no secret that the receivers have been a point of concern for Haley, who said they "have to be better across the board" in today's session with the media.
Anderson came to the Chiefs this season as a member of the NFL's minority coaching fellowship program. He was previously the receivers coach with the New York Jets in 2006. He went to the Cardinals the following season but was only on staff for four games after he was arrested for soliciting a prostitute. The charges were later dropped.
He was in the NFL for 12 years as a fullback.
More info on the situation after the jump.
Ward was an assistant coach with the Cardinals while Haley was there and the receivers coach for Missouri State prior to that. This was his first season as a position coach in the NFL.
Per receiver Bobby Wade, the move isn't expected to change much with the players.
"Richie’s been helping out for us," Wade said. "He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done."
Wade acknowledged that everyone in the locker room has to be open to change, especially for a group that, per Haley, isn't getting it done. On the other hand, Wade says, it's important to know your position coach and know him well.
"In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,’’ Wade said. "He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability.
"So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.’’
Anderson is a Pioli/Haley/Parcells guy. Click here for the Chiefs connection.
(H/T stagdsp in the FanShots)
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jinx
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/10/15/1086943/chiefs-demote-another-offensive#comments
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Thanks
H/T comong. Internet went down. Using my phone…
by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2009 6:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
haha, no big deal :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Haha
No just.Time Warner is awful.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pre to the rescue!
My internet is pretty crappy right now too, with AT&T
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
Nice.
Prostitutes.
Welcome to Chiefs REBUILD - Version 2.0 /The Clark Hunt Edition
Chiefs will be lucky to go 4-12 in 2010
by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 15, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
I like prostitutes
Haley wants MEN on his team…and what’s manlier than picking up whores?
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
Nothing
Except getting them to pay you for sex. :)
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
I once had a girl take me to a dinner and a movie so that I'd have sex with her
Is that a form of prostitution?
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
No
But that counts as an ultra-manly act. :)
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
If you don't...
buy the dinner and movie and she still has sex with you than no. Otherwise, technically yes.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 15, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a process
Lots of changes on the coaching staff… they are clearly still trying to figure it all out
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Seems like it was UCrawford or Saint who had no use for Ward from the get-go.
I know it doesn’t seem as though there’s much chemistry, especially against the blitz, when there should be some seat-of-the-pants reading and reacting by QB-WR combos to take at least a shot at beatin’ the blitz.
Watching Henne hit his guy over the top against the Jets blitz on MNF highlighted the absence of any such threat by the Chiefs.
Plus the fact that Wade came in off the street, so to speak, and was already making tough catches that the others weren’t. Wade’s pretty talented (a coup to land him when they did), but Cassel and the WRs who were here during the whole offseason should have more surprises cooked up between themselves than they do.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Shocker (/Sarcasm)
Considering that Haley was apparently doing Ward’s job for him during training camp.
And yes, that was me noting how Haley was out there hands-on coaching the receivers on position and technique. Guess Ward was too incompetent even for a cronyist like Haley (although the WR corps was less disappointing than the o-line and everything on defense).
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
By The Way
Note prediction #1
1) Firing Chan Gailey
2) Demoting Dedric Ward
3) Bringing in Otis Smith to oversee Pendergast’s work with the DBs.
Yup…called it.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
Thats hardly struggling.
He’s finding the guys that work for him. If you call that struggling then pretty much every first time head coach going through that so its not much of a prediction.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 15, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Henne actually has a decent OLine
And has enough time to make more than a half-step drop before delivering the football. Not to mention miami is showing off THE best running game in the NFL right now, imo.
Factor in that all the checks, audibles, and hot route reads have changed terminology, and it takes a lot more time to get on the samge page. I’m thinking the firing of the O.C. Has set us back quite a bit in that regard.
Henne is in a muuuuch better position for success.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Henne Also Has A QB Coach
Not some dude who only has a third of the time to dedicate to him that an actual QB coach would, like our QBs do.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
That's still my major concern about Haley's duties
I’m fine with him being HC and OC. I’d be happier if he wasn’t, but I’m OK to let him try it. I’m more concerned with him trying to be QB coach. I don’t know that he’s not doing it, or doing it well, but I’d rather he spent that time on other parts of the team and bring in someone to be the position coach.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Maybe...
when can hire Zorn after we beat them on Sunday :)
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 15, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Give him a chance in the off-season.
He didn’t have much to choose from when he was hired. Good coaches had jobs. I am betting on a big turnover in coaches after the season.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
I think you're right.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Not to mention...
a deep threat WR. When was the last time we had that split WR that was a threat to take it to the house in one play? Darling? Meh. I like Bowe, but he is a procession WR.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 15, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure about a wide receivers coach previously with the intimidating missouri state bears. being down there in springfield and witnessing that atrocious team in action is not a testament to anyone’s resume. you gotta find stepping stones where you can, but missouri state? really? the only good things down there is the hockey team, once upon time intimidating basketball team (number 20 and 25 in the nation 3-4yrs ago) and the great outdoors (fishing, hunting, and floating oh my).
secondly, not sure i want a fullback coach as the wide receivers. anderson was a good fullback, from what i remember, with the cowboys and could catch out of the backfield; correct me if i’m wrong, but it’s a different set of mentalities when it comes to catching out of the backfield and picking up blocks than it is catching over the middle in traffic and downfield blocking.
grabbing at straws?
Haley
Was able to create some awesome offense with a team that had ZERO running game…and that team went to the super bowl.
I think Haley knows what type of playcalling and coaching it takes to have a successful offense.
This is the NFL, not college…
As soon as Croyle goes in, we will win a game :)
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Funny How
The guy he brought over to be “assistant head coach” was the same guy responsible for that zero running game (Maurice Carthon).
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
I agree about Carthon
I’ve never been impressed with him. He must have something going for him, but I can’t see what he’s ever accomplished as a coach. I live near Cleveland and his OC work with the Browns was dismal.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I Don't Think He Has Anything Going For Him Except His Parcells Ties
His work over his career has been consistently dismal. The most success he had as RB coach was when he inherited Curtis Martin near the end of Martin’s career. Beyond that, his running games have always sucked. And his work as an OC was even worse…both in Cleveland and Detroit.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
To be fair...
the offensive line has more to do with the running game than the backs. E James lost a step and Hightower is pretty limited in what he can do.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 15, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He's Doing Better This Year
Both as a receiver and a rusher.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
Hightower, Not James
James hasn’t been good for years…and he isn’t getting better.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
Yes, Croyle will get us a win!
He knows how to win and has the record to prove it!
wait… what’s his record again?
Patience grasshopper. Cassel played a good game against the Giants and put us in a position to win. I think it’s a sign of good things to come. I’m happy to have Croyle where he is, I can’t imagine another #2 I’d rather have at the moment (Kolb maybe?).
agree with you on Haley. I’m not anywhere near pulling my support for him yet.
by Ochophosphate on Oct 16, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
you have lineman that can run block and pass block…some do one or the other well.
The Chiefs are looking for lineman that do both well, on every offensive down.
This is why the Chiefs will never take the “Sexy” pick in the draft. They want blue collar guys willing to do whatever takes to play, and cash their paychecks.
One day, I hope Haley and Pioli get rewarded.
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The Lions have been taking the sexy pick for years.
It finally paid off with A win…
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
in 2009 with their 2nd round pick the Kansas City Chiefs select ...
Matt Cassel, QB … and that’s not a “sexy pick” I suppose … so now we have our “franchise QB” who gets sacked 3-4 times/game and hit countless times and has limited time to throw and no running game to back him up …
and for that you want to give rewards? (or am I missing something?)
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
EXACTLY
2 starters and leaders for 1 second round pick
it was a GREAT move. period.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
It Was A Great Move
What wasn’t a great move was ignoring the o-line they put around Cassel.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
I think they did a great job!
In fact, I learned from them. I just bought a Bugatti Veyron and parked it in a special place in my backyard with the keys in the ignition. I’m not worried though, I put a rope fence arouund it.
*My opinions are subject to change.
HAHAHAHA!!!
Awesome…definitely a +1. :)
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
again... it wasn't IGNORED
they’ve made plenty of moves… they just haven’t fixed it yet.
they certainly didn’t sit by and go with the same guys from last year
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
LOL
the Lions were just totally mismanaged.
The key to winning football games is controlling the line of S.
Build the line, then work on other areas.
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I say if Ward wasn't getting it done then this is a good call.
Haley was hired so late he had a bunch of cast offs to choose from to fill out his staff. If he’s not happy with how they are doing then he shouldn’t treat them any different then players who aren’t cutting it.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
Another aspect of that is...
that we don’t know who was contacted to be the various coaches, then just laughed and hung up. It was no secret that the Chiefs were really bad and it would take a few years to become respectable. I think there were quite a few “NOs” until we got the coaches we have now.
Beyond that, we are getting better staff and players. This year will be filled with trial and error until “the right 53” plus coaches come together. Then everyone better watch out!
or Steve Deberg
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 15, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
*as QB coach
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 15, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
F it
Joe Montana for QB coach and Jerry Rice for WR coach. While we’re at it, Let’s get Will Shields to coach the O-Line.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
by YNinja on Oct 16, 2009 5:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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