My early 2010 Mock Draft.

Except that

Benn, Berry, and Oghobaase are all 1st round prospects

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Benn probably isn’t at this point. He’s been extremely disappointing since about halfway through his freshman season.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 15, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Benn is on my Chiefs Roster in Madden

Year 3 and UNDEFEATED!

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Oct 15, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come to think of it... I also have Clapp

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Oct 15, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You forgot the word "the" between "have" and "Clapp"

Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 15, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your mother is a dirty dirty woman

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Oct 15, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, he gets high ratings because of his natural abilities, but natural abilities that don’t accomplish anything on the field are only rewarded when one plays defensive end for LSU.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 15, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that kinda stung a little

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Oct 15, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well yeah

Thats why I got Berry as our 1st round pick. Our 2nd round pick will probably be like a late 1st rounder.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Three first rounders with one first round pick doesn’t work.. There’s a lot of WR needy teams and as it stands Benn… Despite his poor performances as of late, leads this class of WR’s.. You can bet on a LB or two falling out of the first but WR’s are a top heavy group.

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mine

1-Russell Okung LT
2-Germaine Gresham TE
2-George Selvie OLB/DE
3-Matt Tenant C
4-Myron Rolle SS
5-LeGarret Blount RB
5-Brandon Carter OG

by texaschief on Oct 15, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Screw...

Blount. We don’t need another RB w/ an attitude problem in the 5th round no less.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 15, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

matt

u know i like u a lot but matt clapp 6 a littie high

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule

by j-man on Oct 15, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We need a FB. A guy who can lead block or smash it down someones throat.

Clapp can do it. Even if we dont get him I would like a qualified FB to beat out Cox.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh

sorry i throuht u was doing pick by pick

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule

by j-man on Oct 15, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, Brandon Carter looks like a beast.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Oct 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

One thing is for sure

Texas Tech pumps out legit guards lately.. The Guard San Diego drafted in the 3rd (or 4th I’m not sure) is starting right now and is making the loss of Goff look like the smartest thing the Chargers have done all pre-season

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

anyone who looks like that and has guys holding him back would be awesome

Check out the gun show over here FIYA POWA

by redmedicone on Oct 15, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

We need that kind of attitude on our team…

by Hail2DaChiefs on Oct 15, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carter was suspended from TT indeffinatly

i like him too but i dont know what he was suspended for

by BigSGT44 on Oct 15, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was for conduct detrimental to the team, and was almost certainly related to a Twitter post saying how disappointed he was with how this season was going.

And he’s back with the team, not still suspended.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 15, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

interesting

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Oct 15, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s kind of crazy, but he’s a one-dimensional guard at this point, and he generally gets abused by tackles with any kind of talent. If you get a chance to watch the Tech @ Texas game, you’ll see what I mean. True sophomore Kheeston Randall, in his third start, destroyed Carter several times. But I will say that Carter has a great reputation as a leader in the locker room as well as on the line, and so far, it appears to be well deserved.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 15, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He also looks like a risk to

show up at practice one day with a shotgun & blow half the team to hell. Sorry, but he looks like he’s got a couple screws loose.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah that is the

look you want on the defense’s side of the ball!

by ttownmikey on Oct 15, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I honestly don’t mind the look at all. He has fun with it. Plus, dude, he’s from Lubbock, where words like “normal” and “sane” have to be treated as relative.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 16, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

something about that picture

screams steroids

by dgoddard on Oct 15, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Straight out

of the Program!

by ttownmikey on Oct 16, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think we will take a WR that early

I really don’t thing WR is one of the bigger needs on this team now. Bowe is a legit #1 NFL receiver, Wade is a good slot receiver, and Bradley is an ‘okay’ #2. It’s certainly not a strength of the team, but I think our receivers as a group are better than what the Giants & Ravens have, and that hasn’t stopped them from being outstanding teams. As for taking a defensive linemen that early, if we do that he better be capable of being an outstanding NT.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 15, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If Benn is there for us early 2nd we take him.

He would be our legit #2 WR. We have not had a legit 1 and 2 in forever. Benn may not make it to the 2nd like nanz says but I would hope he could fall to us.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would you take him over a great LB prospect

like Weatherspoon or Spikes? Personally I’d rather take an outstanding LB with that high pick and solidify the D than take a #2 WR.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 15, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I said this before...

the receivers will look better when the line gets better.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 15, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would

BUT…..Spikes and Weatherspoon are probably top 15-20 guys.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hard to tell

I saw them in the 2nd round on a couple mocks

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they go 2nd we take them for sure.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Weatherspoon will go in the first

to either the Falcons or Saints hes the perfect 4-3 cover 2 lb. Spikes should still go in the first, maybe to the skins depending on QB play.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone...

thought Maulaluga and Laurinautis were going to be mid first rounders at one point too. ILB and interior offensive lineman usually get passed over until the 2nd. Unless they are blue chips like Alex Mack or Patrick Willis.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 15, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Spikes is different. He’s more like Willis or A.J. Hawk in terms of how outstanding a prospect he is. Had he come out a year ago, I think he still would’ve been a mid-first, and this year he should be knocking on the door of the top ten picks.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 16, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How fast is he?

Cause if he is in the 4.3 range Im sure Al Davis takes him with the 3rd overall pick.

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Oct 15, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

see Mays

athletic freak… 2010 Raiders first round pick

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Dunlap would be the Freak for the Raiders

After all they just gave up a second for a late second day safety

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really dont think Dunlap is the best DE that plays for Florida. Dont be surprised if he falls.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's not the best DE for Florida IMO either

But if you’re talking about Davis falling in love with speed/measurables, Dunlap fits that bill.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really have to disagree with you here...

I think Davis would take him if J Russ was decent or they find someway to geta QB. I really think they will draft Sam Bradford or Tony Pike.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have to disagree with you here...

Raiders/Davis just are not that smart >.>

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 17, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Benn is athletic, but if we’re using the mythical 40 scale commonly used on message boards, he’s more of a 4.55 guy. His strengths are size and physical play.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 16, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a chance. Benn’s talent won’t get him in the top 50 unless he really, really turns it on the rest of this season and then pulls off workouts. Seriously, this year the kid got 1, 0, 4, 5, and 3 catches, for a grand total of 13 receptions in five games. Zero touchdowns.

In 2008 he put up some decent yardage with the same quarterback (Juice Williams), and his numbers were 67 receptions for 1055yds. in his 13. Those aren’t bad numbers, but the kid is simply a non-factor in the red-zone. He’s also an injury risk.

I think he’s performed well enough to be on the radar for the first day, but that pick would be based on a coach’s confidence that he could reclaim the kid from the oblivion into which he has slipped this season. Illinois as a whole, and Juice Williams and Arrelious Benn in particular, are playing like they have zero interest in even being on the field. I think that’s a red flag that one could only overlook if the kid were already produced big-time.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 15, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would have to agree Matt Grbac...

If Benn is there, we have to take him. He would solve our PR/KR problems(sorta) and he would be a solid 2 and with potential to be a number 1. I do think in order to do that we have to aquire another 2nd round pick. Im kinda hoping they resign DJ or trade him for a 2nd maybe a 3rd and a 6th (Which I beleiuve would be ripping us off).

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When I say sorta, Its because I think we arent that bad in PR and KR

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the idea of drafting a good FB

After watching the Dolphins game on Monday, it became evident how important a good FB is in an effective running game. Also, our best offensive years featured a very good FB, and haven’t really replaced Tony Richardson yet.

My only complaint would be to wait till day 2 to address the O-Line.

Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 15, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I couldnt wait on a good Center.

I cant take the chance that someone else would take him. He is not a dominate Center but he has played in like 40 straight games and is the leader on an explosive offense.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and you can usually trust Hawaii linemen

they pan out 70% of the time.. As far as centers go they have all overacheived lately.. It’s too bad Satele went to that hell hole in Oakland, he could have been a baller in the AFC South

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Estes is pretty much a shotgun Center. But when you can lead a line that protects the QB you have to give him a look. Plus Cassel looks good from the shotgun.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

After your first sentece I typed yor second and third in reply.. Then I read the rest of it lol

can’t disagree with you there.. And he’s got the right size to get leverage on the increasingly popular NT.. especially considering we have 2 3-4’s in our division

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe its just me but FB seems like the last thing to spend a draft pick on

It just seems like a position you can get off almost any practice squad.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Oct 15, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure you can.

But do you want an efficive one?
By the 6th round, most of the pics are crapshoots anyways, why not get an effictive 10 year starter at FB instead of gambling on a WR? Its not like the Chargers drafting that Hester kid in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 15, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mock draft posts are the new Draft Curry posts...

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 15, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

Nooooooo!

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Oct 15, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why Oghobaase?

I don’t want another DT in the first 2 rounds…

IF Benn fell to the 2nd, I’d go
1 Berry (S)
2 Benn (WR)
2 O’Dowd ©
3 Brandon Lang, DE/OLB, Troy OR OR Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
4 Thomas Austin OG Clemson
5 Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky
5 Michael Hoomanawanui TE Illinois ?

But it’s way too early to see where prospects will fall…

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings?&start_row=101

is way different from Walterfootball

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oghabasse.

He is big and strong enought to be our dominate NT. Every 3-4 needs that dominate push from the NT. We dont have that. You saw what Jay Ratliff was doing to us. Oghabasse would provide our front line with that initial push from the snap. Creates all kinds of havock in the backfield.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

meh

I would say a NT upgrade is a “nice to have” at this point… Tank and Edwards can get the job done

C/G are BIG needs… I would like to see the #1 C in the draft (whoever that is) coming to KC in the 2nd round

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey I wouldnt mind that at all.

I would address the Center situation fast and furious. We missed out last year…..I dont wanna see those Center studs being taken before us.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also Pioli was scouting Suh...

Would you see him as a NT or DE in our defense.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DE...

and that’s not a big need, IMO

I dont’ think he comes here…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

We have 2 top 5 picks as DE’s why add a third to warm the bench?

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For sure....

I just seen where Pioli was scouting the Nebraska game….he must be after Weatherspoon more so.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure who all could be coming out from Nebraska

Weatherspoon doesn’t fit in a 3-4 IMO, he would be better as a 4-3 cover 2 backer

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Helu Jr.

He may come out but I doubt it.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Oct 17, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To sit next to Magee?

Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 15, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Suh would be

3-4 DE, 4-3 UT

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like Dorsey to me

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Oct 15, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Has Pioli said he was there to see Suh?

Just curious….if he has said something in local media as I live outside the KC area.

I like Suh and think he would play DE in a 3-4, but many experts talk about his versatility to play 0, 3, or 5 tech making him even more valuable.

Weatherspoon(LB) and Alexander(WR) are both draft eligible and possible prospects he was looking at…

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Won't disagree with you on this

I like the shakeup… Still I hope Taylor Mays shows that he’s got something, If we pick him up we’ll have the fastest safety tandem in the league in Mays and Page. But if we nab Berry it only means we see more in him so I could be happy eaither way..

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

“…fastest safety tandem in the league in Mays and Page…”

Say. Whaat?

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 15, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm confused

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Oct 15, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell us something new....

jk

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If..

Mays and Page would be the fastest safety tandem in the NFL then Mays must run at light speed to make up the difference because all I saw Sunday was Page chasing a running back down the field and not closing an inch.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Johnson

I’d love to see us snag Micah Johnson. He’s a big guy who can make some plays.

I want Berry #1, then I’d love to see us use our next 2 picks on G, C. You’ll get better value at those draft slots for those positions than trying to pick up a OT. We can address WR in free agency hopefully, but I like Wade and Bradley tbh. If we could stack the OL and keep Cassel on his feet, I think our WRs will look fine.

by scottbwalters on Oct 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It really depends on who falls into the second round

I would like to see another OLB added, and maybe a ILB later on in the draft, like Micah.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 18, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eric Berry for President!

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 15, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he seems to be the sexy pick among chiefs fans

i certainly wouldnt complain, but we need to follow that up immediately with oline even more than lb or wr

A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?

by Bashman on Oct 15, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Slow down a little

We have Albert and Waters on the left side….they are not going anywhere. We do need a Center and Right Guard…..Right Tackle is probably O’ Doyles…..why? you ask….well because O’Doyle Rules!! (I know its O’Callaghan)….Anyways our Oline isnt as bad as you think. They are getting better as time progresses. Cassel gets hit a lot but 50% of those hits are his own fault for holding the ball too long.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you, for the most part

still… give me O’Dowd in the 2nd!!!!!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

We need one more Talented guy in the mix

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 15, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We need

An offensive line and a pass rush. We should package our two 2nd rounders for a mid to late 1st. Then take a dominate RT and a guy like Witherspoon or Spikes. We absolutely need to address those issues first.

Matt Verderame

by Flowers24 on Oct 15, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why would we trade our 2 2nds for a late first?

Our first second round pick is already pretty close to being a late first the way things are going this year

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 15, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you might be able to get all 3 of those in the 2nd round

Weatherspoon, Spikes, and a RT…

I’ve seen mocks with both of those LB falling to the 2nd.

AND you can almost ALWAYS get a dominant RT in the 2nd round
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2010_2.php

Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
Jason Fox, OT, Miami
Ciron Black, OT, LSU
Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame
Kyle Calloway, OT, Iowa

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The more I see Fox he is impressing me.

I still think Ciron would be a beast RT however

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep...

so, I wouldn’t mind taking Berry/Mays in the first, O’Dowd and Ciron Black in the 2nd…
then address LB and WR or whatever else in day 2

Git er done

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To me it depends what backers fall into the second

Since our first pick will be early if there’s a chance to get a good OLB I would jump on it. ILBs can be taken later. I would love to see Berry, Hughes, Black/Fox on the first day.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I wouldn't complain about a pass rusher in the 2nd...

as long as they get a C!!!!!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Center could be had in the 3rd

But it depends what Oline is left with our second round picks

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that mock draft has us taking a RB in the second dont think that going to happen

Check out the gun show over here FIYA POWA

by redmedicone on Oct 15, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed... and he's a penn state RB...

I think we’ve had enough of those!

:)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we need to draft

the

QBOTF!!!!!

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Oct 15, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

of all the positions on the field...

that’s the LAST one they need to draft this year

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 15, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True that....

But I wouldnt mind looking at Daryl Clark out of Penn St. Strong arm, quick feet…..sounds like a Thigpen kind of guy….but one with an actual QB IQ.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 15, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

carter looks like a freak…..I’de draft him just cuz he looks like a maniac…we need some serious toughness and attitude on this team…cuz noone has any now!

by krayfish on Oct 15, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Carter looks like a Raider fan...

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good call - I knew there was something I didn't like about him.

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

by Big Chief on Oct 15, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

very good

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 16, 2009 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think i like the Carter pick...

mostly because it looks like he has a tongue ring. Chris Rock said it best in his song no sex in the champagne room… “if a girl has her tongue pierced, she’ll probably s*ck your d**k… if a guy has his tongue pierced, he’ll probably s*ck your d**k…” And that’s cool if that’s your thing, but i don’t think he’d like it here in KC. Maybe San Fran?

by Bolan21 on Oct 15, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

By the way

i was completely joking about the above comment, and in no way am trying to make fun of anyone’s sexual orientation. Just wanted to throw that little disclaimer out there. Alright, good talk…see ya’ out there.

by Bolan21 on Oct 15, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy discrimination, Batman!

by burntorangehorn on Oct 16, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here is how I would do it Matt. Similar but small differences.

Rd. 1-Eric Berry-Imdediatly becomes the most talented player on our team. Has mad ball hawking skills and can come up and cover the run just as good. Versatility that thw Chiefs have NEVER had at safety.

Rd. 2a.Eric Norwood- I do think he falls to the start of the 2nd round. Walterfootball.com actually has him going a couple picks after us to the Browns. I know people will say we need to address the O Line, But these 2 positions need to be addressed just as much.

Rd. 2b- Mike Iupati- I love this beast. Samoan Beast of a man. I Beleive he should be a first but I think he falls to the 2nd. This could easily be a Center like O Dowd, Who I like just a little less. He is an imediate starter and the ceiling on this guy is very high. He is a must have.

Rd. 3-Micah Jonhson- I know I know 3 of our 1st 4 picks are on D. This is fine with me. He imediatly contributes to the team as an ILB. He can move vertacly better then anyone on our current roster besides DJ. And with DJ possibly packing his bags, We will need someone to step in. I think he could go a little higher then this (Not Much). Chad Jones FS LSU could easily take his space.

Rd. 4 Matt Tennant- This C from BC might not be ready to start on a good OL, But he easily gives Charles or whoever else running lanes better then Rudy. He is a much better C then your pick John Estes. Not that im down on him, I just Beleive Tennant is the better Run Blocker.

Rd 5. Garrett Graham TE- He could easily go in the 3rd round and he is project to play fullback. He is 6’3 250 and an excellent blocker. He can also catch passes. I would look if he was here, I would settle for Capp as a 7th round compensatory.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 2:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Honestly....

If Pouncey OG Florida fell to the 3rd round, which he might, I would take him because of his excellent run blocking ability.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really, really like Micah Johnson. I’ve been following the kid since he was an impact freshman, and I think he’ll be a solid find if he’s a middle-rounder.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 16, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not bad....

I really like Norwood. He is an immediate impact player…..

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great picks...

Every pick is solid…

Berry and Norwood are both great, and positions of need.

I’m a huge fan of Iupati and agree with you about Mike Pouncey, both are better than Johnson from Alabama. At center it depends who if any of the talented junoirs declare: Maurkice Pouncey, Stefen Wisniewski or Kris O’Dowd, in that order for me.

I think, O’Callahan might end up working out at RT. Also, after watching Haley’s Q & A from yesterday, I don’t think he’s given up on Albert at LT.

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually like this mock

I like Hughes better than Norwood at this point, and several places have him as a 2nd rounder, but that will not happen. I havn’t seen much of Iupati but a lot of ppl are high on him. Micah would be a great MIKE take a few years for him to adjust to a 3-4 and the game speed but he has all the tools in the world to succeed.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im in Love with Hughes!!!!

Ultimatly the Chiefs wont have a Chance to draft him. Ive have him slotted as a late 1st round value pick. Ill hit you guys up with my Mock Draft (All Picks rounds 1 and 2, Im working on the 3rd). If Hughes was there when we pick in the 2nd then we have to grab him. Him and Norwood could easily flip flop. I do believe one of those 2 will be there. Only problem I have with Hughes over Norwood is one. Hughes is a replacement for Hali only. I dont think he would be used to his potential as Vrabel’s replacement. While Norwood is the Perfect Mike Vrabel replacement.

Also, I agree tht Micah wouldnt imediatly make a huge impact. I do think he would start, but it might take him a couple seasons to really hit his ceiling.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hughes/Mays/Vrabel/Hali

As our starting LBs.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That wouldnt work...

Vrabel cannot play inside. I dont think Vrabel will be retained (I could be wrong). I think Hughes wouldnt be able to give us what Vrabel does like Norwood would. I think Norwood is faster and could drop into coverage better. That with the fact that Jerry Hughes WILL be the first Hybrid DE off the board (Mark my words) we wont have that chance. Also, Are you a menber of Mocking the Draft its pretty cool spot. While it isnt maintained as well as this site. It still has some good reads.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's hard to tell who is going first

After all there are plenty of DE/OLBs in this draft. IMO Hughes is the best this year, and he should be the first to go, but that doesn’t mean anything, Orakpo last year? Vrabel can and has played inside, he has lost a few steps this year, if he is retained IMO he fits the best inside. Hughes is all over the field, he gets pressure on the qb, runs to the opposite sideline to break up a run, can shadow a RB out and break up passes…Norwood just has not impressed me that much.

Jerry Hughes
Sergio Kindle
Eric Norwood
George Selvie
Brandon Lang
Ricky Sapp

That’s my OLB order

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 17, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Norwood is faster and already has experience @ LB...

He is the perfect fit. Also, When did Mike Vrabel consistently play ILB. Ie seen him line up inside a couple, but ive never seen him play that posistion as a starter. You must be a TCU fan. How could you say Norwood hasnt shown you much. Dude is beastly. I do beleive Hughes will go before him because he would be a great pass rusher, but Norwood is the better all around player. Im talking about pass coverage, lateral quickness, and has an almost equal first step.

by darwithabar on Oct 18, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I have to say about the 2010 draft is...

How hard and stressful is this going to be on our GM and scouting department? I can’t imagine what it would be like to be in their shoes. We have holes everywhere and we have (I think) seven spots to fill them. It doesn’t even come close to meeting our needs. Then add to that the fact that the guys picked lower in the draft are usually developmental players.

With what appears to be an uncapped year guys don’t have to leave teams because they are going to be overpaid otherwise. So that makes it tougher to get the free agents to come to us.

by Primussux on Oct 17, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

At the same time...

You know Pioli is having a BLAST with all of the possibilities!

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 17, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Name more than 7 players that desperately need replaced?

7 spots can’t be filled in one draft, but I think there are less “holes” than most think…

Top 7 to be replaced…
1 Goff (though, the replacement could already be on the roster: Ndukwe, Alleman, Brown)
2 Niswanger
3 Mike Brown
4 Vrabel (if he leaves)
5 Waters (if he leaves)
6 LJ (though, the replacement could already be on the roster)
7 Williams/DJ/Belcher/Mays ?

Honestly, I think the Chiefs would be VERY solid if all 7 were upgraded, would be pretty good still if only the top 3 were upgraded…

Who else? you say “holes everywhere”…

I think a draft of Berry, Norwood, O’Dowd… and whoever else… fills most of the main positions of need… then, they can continue upgrading in FA, etc.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just a thought

FA starts well before the draft. Seems some think it is after :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 17, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed...

just making a point that there aren’t “too many holes” to be filled with 7draft picks

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 18, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How is Goff still starting?!

I’m still puzzled by this…

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 18, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed...

Alot of people keep saying that we have tons of holes but I dont see them. On Defense, S and Maybe OLB if Vrabel Leaves(Which I think he will). On Offense, G and C. Thats it. We have a number 1 Wide Out, RB can be address in later rounds if Kolby and Charles dont become a 2 back tandem. I think we are better off then people think. TE is another one but we dont really know if Cottam will become the starter or not. He is still on the roster so they must see something in him.

by darwithabar on Oct 18, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs