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New Chief, Injured Chiefs and Released Chief?

Kansas City Chiefs' running back Jackie Battle (26) has the ball stripped by Minnesota Vikings' defensive end Martail Burnett (61) during the second half of a NFL preseason  football game, Friday, Aug. 21, 2009 in Minneapolis. The Vikings won 17-13. (AP Photo/Paul Battaglia)

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3 months ago: Kansas City Chiefs' running back Jackie Battle (26) has the ball stripped by Minnesota Vikings' defensive end Martail Burnett (61) during the second half of a NFL preseason football game, Friday, Aug. 21, 2009 in Minneapolis. The Vikings won 17-13. (AP Photo/Paul Battaglia)

Clever title, huh?  Our main man Josh Looney is on top of the report Todd Leabo of 810 WHB brought to us a few minutes ago.

New Chief and Released Chief?

When practice began, RB Jackie Battle made his way to the indoor facility with a staff member.  We're still in the speculative stages here but it appears Battle is the odd man out with the Chiefs newest signing, who is believed to be LB Justin Rogers, previously of the Dallas Cowboys and New England Patriots ('07 draft pick).

Rogers went to SMU and was drafted by the Patriots in the sixth round of the '07 draft.  He did not make the squad, however, and was picked up by the Cowboys on September 2nd.  He spent two seasons with the Cowboys, primarily on special teams, before being released at the end of August of this year (after spending a month on IR).

Injured Chiefs

Branden Albert did not participate in practice today, instead riding a stationary bike.  I already told you that I believe he will play (though I claim no inside information).  Wade Smith, as he did against the Cowboys, took reps at left tackle in Albert's absence.

Mike Goff was at practice and practicing with pads on.

Joining Albert in the Rehab Zone were C/G Andy Alleman, who replaced an injured Goff last Sunday, and S Jarrad Page.  No word on their injuries.  And, of course, Kolby Smith was in the rehab zone.

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In other words the new LB is just another recycled throw away

 that isn’t worth a shit and is just going to fill a hole until we find another useless piece of debree that blows in from some other teams dumpster…useless as always…Im to the point now that I don’t even care anymore who they pick up…

it’s just garbage in garbage out so far…

by krayfish on Oct 14, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At this point in the season...

I am not sure how many “quality” starters a team can pick up at this point in the season. However, a team can improve their depth. That was one of many issues I had with the last GM. I think Pioli sees the big picture and knows that the depth is just as important as the starters. While the addition of more quality starters might have to wait until next season…we do not have to wait to improve the depth. Then, next year we might have better depth. I think that some of our current starters will be very good depth when they are replaced by more quality.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Think The Frustration Partly Stems From

Pioli and Haley apparently only look at recycled scrubs who already showed they weren’t good enough to cut it in “Parcells” systems.

Way too many signings of “Parcells” guys who just aren’t good football players, IMO. I think they’ve got a pronounced tunnel vision on their player evaluation.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hoping it just appears that way

it could very well be that they are looking at other players but still find nothing that is worthy of a second glance.

then again you could be right. ofcorse if that happens to be true i’ll have to hunt you down and carve into your chest “Damn you UC! Damn you to hell!” :p

….Disclaimer: that was in no way a threat on your life. just the life span of a few chest hairs.

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Worries

I should also inform you that I have a military background and am heavily armed. Been looking for a reason to buy that “Judge” pistol I’ve had my eye on. :)

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should be a good show than

maybe we should sell tickets and split the take 70-30 me. actually make that 60-40. i’m feeling generous and you’ll need the extra cash for the plastic surgery.

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It Fires Shotgun Shells

You’ll never make it up the stairs. :)

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless Of Course

I was just using this conversation to distract you while I tracked down your IP address, traced it back to where you’re posting from and am now standing behind you. :)

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Played, Sir :)

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You nailed UC...that so perfectly describes it...

they seem more concerned about where these players come from than the fact that they all suck….really…I"m not being a dick I’m being serious…Indukwe and Alleman are both just very average guys…now I don’t claim to know much about them…maybe their guys Haley feels he can groom..

but he better find a better groomer…cuz pendercrap aint’ the man that’s gonna change things here in KC…but then again…he has the same excuse as Cassel…we didn’t go get him any superstars to work with….

I don’t know…it just all feels way too familiar to me…I’m so tired of the same shit..why can’t we just be Denver this year?? Why is is ALWAYS some other team that gets it right?

by krayfish on Oct 14, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

regarding Indukwe and Alleman

No doubt they are average, but assuming we gave a low round draft pick for them, I’ll take average over what we had before.

It seems to me that Pioli/Haley are continuously trying to shore up the bottom of the roster, which is about all you can do at this time of the year. Any top line talent brought in would incur a significant cost.

It’s clear to me that this season is being used to evaluate and reshape the roster for next season and beyond (otherwise #88 would still be here), and I think that’s okay. The team has some very good talent working alongside some very gaping holes. I really think the holes will be addressed aggressively this coming offseason through the draft and free agency. In the mean time, they might as well bring in some younger players who haven’t worked out in other places to see if they could work out here. Guys like Corey Mays, he has some holes in his game and he’ll probably never be a pro-bowler, but he’s a solid MLB, and may continue to get better and/or prove to be a valuable backup over the next few years.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 14, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Babb confirmed that the trade for Ndukwe and Alleman was a 6th round pick

Which is a great deal, even if neither starts.

However, Ndukwe has shown he can be a starter at RG, and Alleman showed promise in limited action on Sunday.

great trade

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 14, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point.

Everyone’s going around acting like Pioli is picking up scrubs in hopes to replace the current starters but I think he realizes at this point there’s not going to be a lot of “quality” guys out there.

by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 14, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's also getting

mainly players known to him & that he originally liked enough to give them jobs in the 1st place. He knows what he’s getting rather than sifting thru everyone else’s trash & paying them just to find out that they were indeed trash. Makes a lot of sense to me!

by ttownmikey on Oct 14, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Basically

He’s sifting through his own trash? :)

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

Get your Arrowhead Pride Wolf Pack T-shirt now!

by oldchiefsfan on Oct 14, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes players

have to be cut due to the numbers crunch, especially from a team that had the talent to go undefeated. He was behind a whole bunch of very good linebackers there in New England.

by ttownmikey on Oct 14, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the number crunching ... and it's the same thing here, obviously

first Pollard and soon, I’m guessing, DJ … just have to be cut because, you know, we have way too much talent

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually we don't have that much talent.

I heard some “expert” say today that if KC folded today, probably less than half of the players would be able to catch on with other teams in any capacity & would no longer be employed in the NFL. That is pretty harsh but its the hand that Pioli & Haley have been dealt so they are constantly trying to improve it & at this stage of the season, it pretty much has to be from the bottom up unless a trade takes place.

The Pollard debate went on quite awhile ago & we couldn’t find any one else who wanted him either until Texas found out that there Safeties weren’t as good as they thought 2 games later. DJ wasn’t performing while Williams has been. If Williams gets beaten badly or messes up then DJ will get his chance to show what he can do & he can grab it & run (as Williams has) or he can continue to play inconsistently & well below his talent level. His talent level is much higher than Williams but if he doesn’t perform up to that level, he’s not doing anyone any good.

by ttownmikey on Oct 14, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point TT

so where are they?? all we’ve gotten is his sifting through his own trash…we haven’t picked up one single true QUALITY player yet…

by krayfish on Oct 14, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O'Callaghan seems to be alright and Mays shows some ability to play the position....

….Pope will continue to contribute and I am waiting for Lance Long to be brought up. Copper has played some nice ST. Wade is looking like he was a nice addition, this year at least. All these guys have ties to the Pioli or Haley and I think they have shown to be at least capable players.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Oct 14, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yessir

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 14, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you know that?

What are you basing that on? Five games? Brady wasn’t a star when New England drafted him but once Bledsoe got hurt & Brady got his chance, he definitely became one. Moss was done in Oakland but became rejuvenated in New England.

by ttownmikey on Oct 14, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also not reported

Rogers will get more playing time than Derrick Johnson

by xchiefsx on Oct 14, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Gee

Another Belichick player who wasn’t good enough to play for a team in desperate need of defensive help. I’m sure he’ll be better than DJ too.

Oh well, it only cost us Battle, so no great loss.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Of Course

Pioli drafted the guy…so obviously he deserves another chance. (/sarcasm)

Cripes, maybe the Chiefs should consider signing free agent scrubs who don’t have any Parcells/Pioli/Belichick/Haley ties. They can’t be any worse than a lot of what they’re bringing in.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one might think that there were other players in the world besides former Patriots ...

not even good enough to stick with Dallas but good enough for KC? and yeah, if he’s “in” then DJ is “out” … one more of The Right 53 no matter how talented or talentless he is

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS! THIS! THIS!

For the love of the football god, This!

by Cassel is a west coast pretty boy on Oct 14, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a thought...

Aren’t the good teams good for a reason, as in they know talent. Maybe we should be seeing what the….can’t believe I’m saying this…Raiders are discarding.

by 12t on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At some point

they have to start bringing in someone that they didn’t draft, right? I definitely don’t mind giving him a shot, especially at the expense of only Battle. But the comfort factor has got to start wearing off, and they have to start bringing in some fresh faces.

by Clarry on Oct 14, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How bout making some high price signings this offseason

We’ve got the money..Lets spend it on a serious play maker on Offense and Defense

Lets take care of the O-line in the draft and fre agency and perhaps something will be done about it..All this team has done the past three years is draft albert, and sign goff and mcintosh..ain’t gonna get it done

by CALIFAN1986 on Oct 14, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds Good...

Problem is, “serious playmaker” Free Agents don’t want to come play for crappy teams. That’s a big problem for us.

by Scott B. on Oct 14, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Pioli Can't Convince A Talented Free Agent To Buy Into What The Team Is Trying To Do

Then why should we believe in what they’re trying to do?

Seriously, Reggie White signed with Green Bay when the NFL got free agency and left a dominant defense in Philly. Know why? Because a) Green Bay was willing to pay and b) Ron Wolf was a good GM who sold White on the team’s direction. The Chiefs have money, and if Pioli can’t convince good players to believe in his program enough to come here, then he’s not a good GM and his program is probably screwed.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not worried about that...believe me...

Pioli’s reputation far exceeds him…he has a hell of a lot to live up to…palyers thought the same thing about Denver until they turned in a 5-0 season thus far.

So lets be real about this…we CAN get quality players…but you actually have to DO it. We haven’t done shit yet…

by krayfish on Oct 14, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's NOT true, kray ...

I mean to me, it looks like a LOT of shit every week, but hey … that’s just my opinion and I could be wrong

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clinton Hart

Noticed the Chargers released Hart. I don’t know anything about him, but I wonder if he is someone we might look to bring especially with 2 games against the Chargers coming up. Anyone know anything about him?

by groundedchevy on Oct 14, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

San Diego Chargers
On September 15, 2004 Hart was claimed off waivers by the San Diego Chargers. Hart played in 14 games for the Chargers in 2004 and was tied with Hanik Milligan for the team lead with in special teams tackles with 15.

In 2005 Hart started 5 of 16 games and recorded 45 tackles and an interception. He also scored two touchdowns on an interception return and an interception by Donnie Edwards who lateralled to him for the score. In 2006 he started one of 16 games, recording 48 tackles and three intercetpions.

In 2007 Hart became the Chargers full time starter at strong safety, starting all 16 games. He finished the season recording a career high five interceptions and 85 tackles.

On April 7, 2008 the Chargers signed Hart to a five-year extension through 2012.2 During the 2008 season he remained the Chargers starter at strong safety, starting in all 14 games he played. He finished the season with 63 tackles and 0 interceptions.

Hart was cut from the Chargers on October 14. 2009. [

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd Probably Be An Okay Signing

So I suspect we’ll never see him here.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

idk why the chargers cut him though

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Know

Injury maybe? Problems with Ron Rivera or Norv? They’re in pretty pathetic shape these days too…can’t be a pretty locker room over there.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Think He's A Free Agent After This Year

Nobody’s going to trade for him. Keeping him would involve a franchise tag and right now he’s not a top five linebacker.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true true

i dont think they would franchise him with there issues even if he was top 5. but i think he would be a good pick up

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless You've Had A Catastrophic Knee Injury

Which Merriman did. It wasn’t just a torn ligament…it was a couple.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's Not

The commenters were noting it…he was actually dragging his leg on a few plays. He’s got no burst.

Might just be he needs the season to fully recover, but I doubt anyone’s giving up much for him.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not To Us

And I doubt they’d trade him in division anyway.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well from what you just said about him dragin

i wouldnt even look at him as a FA

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll Be Interesting To See What Kind Of Contract He Lands

Maybe someone’s in the mood to make another Lavar Arrington-type mistake. :)

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tampa bay will take him

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldnt that be wierd if that happens

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe a second round of drinks.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Oct 14, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd Be Okay With Hart

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just had a thought pick up this guy hart sounds like he knows how to tackle something that i havnt seen in the past couple games

and offer DJ and a pick idk what round … for merriman since he is having issues with the charges ?

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by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

previous teams

Who cares where he came from or who drafted him? If he can help and improve the team, that’s all that matters. If he were a worse player but got released by some other team, would that make you feel better?

by Offense of the 70s on Oct 14, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I have to agree…I don’t see a problem with this. I think we should be happy that our management is happy with the current roster. I like this atitude much better than “There is always next year”

by groundedchevy on Oct 14, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I could care less who drafted them, or if all of them come from NE and AZ

In fact, the Chiefs have a distinct advantage in evaluating those players, because of the ties to those teams…

so, why not? Who’s to say any other teams’ players are better than NE/AZs ?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 14, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching Staff

The coaching staff doesn’t believe this or he would be there. I’ve never seen anything except flashes from time to time to think that DJ would improve. Yes he was a high draft pick but that is the only reason us fans have such a boner for him

by groundedchevy on Oct 14, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which would you prefer?

Getting “cast offs” from New England, Miami, and Dallas or “cast offs” from Detroit, Cleveland, and St. Louis?

Frankly, I think Pioli knows what he’s doing so I’m just going to sit back and be patient.

by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I respect your opinion regarding Pioli

I disagree with it, but I respect it

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this the end for DJ?

Signing a linebacker to fill a void left by a RB when Smith will come off PUP next week is odd. I see using the special teamer this week, but why long term? Battle could’ve done that if that’s all that was expected. We signed a linebacker to replace a linebacker, because we’ve already filled Battle’s slot with Kolby. I think DJ will be jettisoned soon to “complete” this transaction. Sucks.

by HTrayne on Oct 14, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how so? DJ hasn't done anything

if DJ played ball on sundays i’d be upset, but i’m not. if we can get something for him, i say drop him like a cheerleader after homecoming.

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uhhh yah

he was in the right spot at the right time. i’m not saying that he’s a horrible player, just that he’s not good enough that i’d care that we cut him lose for the betterment of the team in the long run.

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But even with him last year the team wasn't very good.

DJ is not the key that makes this team a champion. I’d say trade him now for whatever we can get., before we release him into FA at the end of the year.

About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist

by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 14, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also do it now before his stock drops

he’s only a few years removed from his 1st Rnd pick status so he’s still worth something. the closer we get to the end of the season the less likely a trade will happen as teams will just wait and see if they can pick him up in FA

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and benching him raises his value ... how?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it doesn't that's the point

that’s why i say trade him now. obviously he’s not doing anything for the team, so the longer we hold on to him the weaker his value.

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotcha ... my point was that we SHOULD play him and maybe ...

he could actually, you know, do something positive … there’s no question the guy has talent and speed … and this was supposed to be the system he’d thrive in

at this point I’m thinking the current coaching staff (Haley on down) is NOT doing what they need to do

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So because he had an INT for the first time in like 12 games

He’s all of a sudden finally ready to become the LB we drafted 4 years ago? I don’t think so.

About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist

by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone show me how

this scrub has more potential than battle – Pioli needs to stray outside of his comfort zone if he’s actually going to improve this team.

Ten to one Haley’s sick of it already…..

by Cassel is a west coast pretty boy on Oct 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"more potential"?

Okay, Rogers was a sixth round draft pick and played special teams regularly for a playoff team. Battle was passed on by every single team in the draft, and hasn’t played very much for some horrible teams. If some other team signed him after the draft and then he was released today, not one of us would care, and no one would hope we signed him.

Rogers is going to be a backup and a special teamer. Battle couldn’t even keep his job doing that.

by Offense of the 70s on Oct 14, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is Kolby activated?

Get a two week roster exemption, right? LB will be released after that, i assume…

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by woodman212 on Oct 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Stray outside comfort zone

So we need more players like Goff?

by groundedchevy on Oct 14, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or eric guicheck?

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman

by kcguy on Oct 14, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm disappointed. I see no upside to losing Battle.

I personally would have liked to have seen more playing time from him prior to his release. Haley bragged on him during training camp & the pre-season. He was big & I always thought he would be a big plus on screen plays.
I really expected a TE to be released prior to any RB.

by ChiefsChance on Oct 14, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Merriman

Does Merriman have a place on this team? 2nd round pick we got from Alanta for Merriman? I bet Chargers would bite, but I doubt he will have an impact until he is a year returned to football and thats assuming he doesn’t get hurt again

by groundedchevy on Oct 14, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why keep going after cast offs, i’m almost sure Pioli knew NE was shopping Seymour when they were, I’m sure he could have swung a deal like Dorsey and one of our second rounders or maybe even a 3rd for Seymour being that Dorsey is a 4-3 DT and NE just happened to be switching back to a 4-3 this year and a line with Tyson Jackson and Seymour on it? That would make any NT look/play better

by RamX21 on Oct 14, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That would make sense

Trade Dorsey & a high draft pick for an aging, often injured, veteran in the final year of his contract.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 14, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

often injured? he started last year injured and finished tied for a career high in sacks, 8 in a 3-4 scheme, wouldnt necessarily say he’s declining. The main point of the post was to say why not make a play at any of the starters or people that contributed instead of 3rd stringers, practice quad, and guys who got cut

by RamX21 on Oct 14, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh you know it ram...no doubt he knew for sure...

I don’t know what this is all about…but this BULLSHIT that KC has been pulling for 25 years now had better stop…I’m sick of every other team being aggressive for big time players while we always bargain shop at the local flea market for our players….

by krayfish on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why a lot of people are upset about picking up past Pioli players....

….So what. Pioli obviously liked the guy and thought he would be a good contributor to the Patriots, that didn’t work out and the Cowboys decided he was intriguing enough to be on their team for 2 years. Maybe Pioli likes what he is seeing from him again.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Oct 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because He Came Out Of One Of Pioli's Worst Draft Classes

And he was so marginal that the Patriots didn’t even bother to keep him for the season he was drafted.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't mean that he can't contribute now.....

….A couple of years in the leauge will do wonders for a lot of players. Even if he is no more than a ST player or a stop-gap if DJ is traded, I don’t have a problem with picking him up. And I don’t care if Battle gets the axe because of it, he wasn’t opening any eyes.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Oct 14, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys Dumped Him This Preseason

Because of a knee injury. Considering the sad state of their defense and ST, that’s not a ringing endorsement of Rogers’ abilities in either area.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst Prepared Team I've Seen In A Long Time

Their defense was horrible earlier this year, but I can’t believe how horrible they looked against us. Did Wade Phillips even have practice last week?

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Many Offsides Penalties In A Row Did They Have On That Drive?

Four maybe? It was as bad as anything I’ve seen the Raiders do (and lack of discipline is a Raiders hallmark).

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

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by oldchiefsfan on Oct 14, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rumor Is

If Phillips had lost to the Chiefs, he was gone. Same rumor on Zorn. That’s how bad the team is…we’re the expansion Bucs (who cost two head coaches their jobs when they beat them).

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Hereby Endorse This New Motto

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chiefs = Coach Killers

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

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by oldchiefsfan on Oct 14, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pats like old linebackers

The Patriots want vets at linebacker, and had plenty of them. Unlike this team, it was pretty hard for a 6th rounder to make the 2007 Patriots. We have about 12 guys on our active roster already who would’ve been cut from the 2007 Patriots, that’s hardly a reason to rule someone out. Jackie Battle sure would’ve been cut from that team too.

Dallas picked up Rogers and he played special teams regularly for them, and even made two tackles for them in the playoffs. Sorry he’s not Willie Lanier, but what do you expect to find on waivers at this point in the season?

There’s not much reason to be bothered by this move, unless you’re related to Jackie Battle or else are just against everything Pioli does.

by Offense of the 70s on Oct 14, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

big red...I'll enlighten you...

we’re not upset about him picking up his past players…it’s the past players he chooses to pick up…why didn’t he get Seymour?? That’s one of his boys right there….no we Callaghan..or whatever…whoever that is…

Seau came back for NE ….that’s one of his boys…did he ever consider bringing him in for one year of leadership for our youngin’s??

We’re pissed because he passes on Brian Dawkins and Seymour and Haynesworth and Porter and Sharper who is picking off the ball and returning TD’s like he was 22 again…and we Guichek? What is going on here? That’s what…we could have had Boldin…what are they waiting for? Who in the fuck you gonna draft better than Boldin Give the picks up already and get him.

by krayfish on Oct 14, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Kray.... Maybe I will enlighten you some.....

1. Seymour is toward the back end of his career. I would have blown a gasket, and I suspect alot of others a well, if we had given the Pats a 1st round pick for an aging player who is in the final year of his contact and wanted to get PAID one more time. Not to mention, have you seen the Raiders? Seymour didn’t go in there and make some kind of massive impact, he’s been kinda quiet.

2. Seau would NEVER have come back to play for anyone except the Patriots or maybe the Dolphins(but I doubt that).

3. When Dawkins was available we were set at saftey, or so we thought, with Pollard and Page. He too is aging and he may very well have come out and played his age, can you say Donnie Edwards?

4. Haynesworth was tampered with by the Redskins, I and the Titans are sure of it. None the less, I would NEVER EVER EVER give Haynesworth a 100 million dollar contract, if you would have then I am glad you are not running the Chiefs organization. You and Snyder could go wipe your ass with your fan’s hard earned dollars up in Washington together.

5. Porter? I assume you mean Joey Porter? You can have him.

6. Everyone had thier crack at Sharper, dude wanted to play and no one wanted him. Kudos to the Saints for bringing him in, now they are reaping the benifits.

7. Boldin is a horse that fell out of the dead horse tree and has hit every branch on the way down and was hoisted back up and dropped again. I believe we seriously tried to get him, I really do. The Cards were probably asking way to much for him and I don’t think Pioli and Haley wanted to mortgage that much of the future on one player. Would have been a huge bang or bust situation…… ask Al Davis.

When this staff took over I think they wanted to sniff out just what kind of talent this team had and the only way to do that is competition, not practice and not preseason, real competition. Now they have seen where the fat needs trimming and what they can salvage. We may suffer through a long terrible season but this team in the long run will be better for it. Pioli is trying different avenues to get a spark on this team and if that means player competition then so be it. If that means lesser knowns get a shot, so be it. This season is already in the tank, lets get some positives out of it instead of panicing and blowing our load on some high priced over valued player. The offseason will be the when this staff will do it’s damage.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Oct 14, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

well said, BigRed

Kray, what happened to you? 5 losses, and you hate everything about the Chiefs?

Calm down, be rational…there are some good players on this team, they do have a chance to get better, and Pioli has brought in SEVERAL new players that are better fits than the guys they replaced.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 14, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed On Seau

He wasn’t going to come here. He made it pretty clear it was the Patriots or retirement.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

However
When Dawkins was available we were set at saftey, or so we thought, with Pollard and Page.

I’d be more willing to give him a pass on that if he hadn’t cut Pollard before the season even started.

And I don’t for a second believe that Pollard getting cut was about talent. Not when it came right after a spat with Pendergast. I’m 100% convinced he got cut simply for talking back to the coaching staff…probably because he recognized just how badly Pendergast’s scheme was working out.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haley said in his presser

Battle is going on IR and will have shoulder surgery and Rogers is a productive special teams guy

by golfbard on Oct 14, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

intersting - I didn't even know Battle was injured to begin with

then too, I didn’t realize DJ had been injured, or Colin Brown back in pre-season … amazing how these injuries seem to just pop up at times

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is saving guys for next year haha

Check out the gun show over here FIYA POWA

by redmedicone on Oct 14, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course, that's it!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 14, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Battle gone, it looks like we need LJ

…but we actually don’t. Maybe now somebody will offer us more than that plate of nachos for him.

by HowSweetItIs on Oct 14, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not with smith coming back

battle was as good a gone anyways.

by Leaf on Oct 14, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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