Mort: Chiefs' Compensation in Thigpen Trade Is a 5th Round Pick
Prior to last night's Monday Night Football game, Chris Mortensen of ESPN (which we heard via all the Dolphins message boards and Twitter) said the compensation for the Chiefs in the trade that sent Tyler Thigpen to Miami was a fifth round pick. This is what we expected it to be back on September 29th when the Chiefs pulled the trigger. 73% of those polled agreed with the decision and the compensation.
(Photo via Miami Herald)
From what I understand, it was likely a conditional pick, meaning Thigpen would have to hit certain escalators (playing time, passing yards, etc). When Mort said it was a fifth round pick, my guess is that the conditions in the pick (if it is indeed a conditional pick) will almost assuredly result in a fifth round pick.
Mort had another interesting nugget - before the trade was executed, Chiefs head coach Todd Haley was planning on experimenting with Thigpen at wide receiver.
Really? That's where we are?
I know we've been searching high and low for wide receivers but Thigpen? I would hope that this would be in some sort of wildcat-esque package. Unless he's in a position where he's a threat to throw, Thigpen at wide receiver doesn't make any sense to me.
This just shows that the Chiefs are searching high and low for receivers. In other words, Bobby Engram being inactive yesterday may be a sign of things to come.
While we're on the Thigpen topic, interesting story: Remember when he first came to the Chiefs and asked for No. 16? Don't make fun - Matt Cassel did the same thing. Anyway, the Chiefs told him there was a guy by the name of Len Dawson who had that number. Thigpen's number in Miami? No. 16 (which you can tell from the picture above).
But, with that fifth rounder, here's how the Chiefs draft is shaking out next season:
KC - 1st
KC - 2nd
ATL - 2nd
KC - 3rd
KC - 4th
KC - 5th
MIA - 5th
(Chiefs sixth round pick is believed to be the compensation for Ndukwe/Alleman)
(Chiefs seventh round pick went to the Dolphins as part in a '09 draft day trade)
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Talking about receivers...
There’s still that Matt Jones guy out there if they really need someone.
Seriously. I thought the Chiefs were “set” at WR. Guess not…?
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by IISaiNtII on Oct 13, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too...
I mean doesn’t a lot of the ineptittude at offense mainly due to the o-line just flat out failing? Cassel has to rush his throws and everything…and then without a rushing game going, they can cover the WRs well…
by worc on Oct 13, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's easy to cover them well
when the passes are for 5-7 yards and the QB has no time to wait for them to make a move…
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by IISaiNtII on Oct 13, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one word...
Sippio!
Run Run Pass Punt, repeat as needed for 60 min.
by RAM_Doubler on Oct 13, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard he has a try-out with the Bucs.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Oct 13, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side...
There will be teams chomping at the bit to trade up to grab Bradford, McCoy or one of the other QB studs. That’s one area the Chiefs seem to be set (at least in their mind). We could get multiples for that slot near the top of the first round.
by Ozarks on Oct 13, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think taking bradford
then dangling him later would be even better. similar to what the Chargers did with Eli.
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by IISaiNtII on Oct 13, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has been proven numerous times to be a faulty strategy.
It’s a bad idea indeed to waste draft picks, hoping somebody will give you what you want. I could be wrong, but I’m fairly certain that SD/NYG had something in place when they drafted him.
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by Justin Bopp on Oct 13, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Giants drafted Rivers for SD.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Oct 13, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't really be wasting draft picks
can never have too many good QB’s. they’re always in demand.
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by IISaiNtII on Oct 13, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you do have to pay both quarterbacks. Yep
by T-Rich on Oct 13, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That or just bring him into compete for the job....
…seriously, if he could puch Cassel or take the job both of QBs would still have good to great trade value. That said I would prefer to trade the pick for multiples, like a 1st a 2nd and a 3rd or a 1st this year and a 1st next year.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Oct 13, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want him to "push" Cassel, or "punch" Cassel??? ;-0
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Oct 13, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, maybe both..... but I got money on Cassel, we know he can take a hit.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Oct 14, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trading up...
after bradford’s injury he might not leave, unless there will be a rookie pay scale the following season, then he will have to. and i don’t see anyone trading up into the top 4 to take mccoy.
by pmkr152 on Oct 13, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would we really be getting value trading Dj for a 3rd.
I say keep him uless you can get a 2nd.
by darwithabar on Oct 13, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli sort of hinted in his morning interview on 610
that he’s not really thinking trading DJ and my gist of what he was saying was “no one is very interested.”
by jk86 on Oct 13, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
decoy trade?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
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by Lanier63 on Oct 13, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he isn't on the field
anything is better, imo
by Bra on Oct 13, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would any team give up a 2nd round pick
for a LB who is in the final year of his contract, and is better known for his potential rather than his production?
by jmcgoblue on Oct 13, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Or a 3rd, 4th, etc. Who wants to trade for a LB who can’t get on the field for an 0-5 team? If he had value they would have him on the field to showcase him.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 13, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dj for a 3rd
would be a steal right now. pioli couldn’t turn that down
by pmkr152 on Oct 13, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with all of that noise...
Trading DJ for a 3rd rounder is like trading potential for potential. It’s comical really. We know what we have in DJ. He is a solid LB who has actually been pretty consistent throughout his career despite what people say. he’s no superstar by any means but, he IS a solid LB and the last time I checked, our cupboard was pretty dry in that dept.
Did we make a LB acquisition that I was unaware of???
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 13, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a 3rd rounder for dj
DJ is losing playing time to an undrafted rookie in belcher….you now what potential is? it’s shit you ain’t done yet. DJ has lots of potential….too bad that’s all after being a top 15 pick
by pmkr152 on Oct 13, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not losing time to Belcher
he’s losing PT to Williams. that’s it
Belcher and Mays play the OTHER ILB spot
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 13, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt the Jags offer a 4th?
we should of taken that deal!
by tomahawk44 on Oct 13, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No we wanted a 4th
but they wouldn’t go more then a 5th. Least that was the story that got leaked.
by Bra on Oct 13, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have the Jags 5th than Miami's 5th
but with Cassel getting hurt, I can understand why they didn’t pull the trigger at the time (assuming the rumor was true).
by jmcgoblue on Oct 13, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will this just be a wash with what we owe for Alleman and Ndukwekewikiduke?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 13, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And Mala-ka-li-ki-ma-ka :)
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by THE_TRUTH on Oct 13, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we come out ahead on the deal
Way ahead if Ndukwe or Alleman prove to be starting caliber guards. We gave them the 6th pick for 2 players, and we moved up to the 5th round, where it is still reasonable to find starting caliber guys or at least guys with huge upside that can be immediate special teams contributors.
I see this as a big win for the Chiefs
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Oct 13, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sure have done a lot of trading with Miami
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by Scaryclouds on Oct 13, 2009 9:36 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this Mort
claiming that we were thinking about moving Thigpen to wide-receiver the same Mort who let us know that we were hiring Mike Shanahan as head coach? Just saying…..:)
by ttownmikey on Oct 13, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mort's accuracy has gotten much better now that he can turn to Schefter and find out if it is true or not.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Oct 13, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He bought a house in KC, that’s a pretty good indicator. Must be a rental.
by JComp11 on Oct 13, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would believe it would still be an option to bring in Shanahan but....
…..Pioli will never give up any GM duties and that would be a problem. Lots of people think he will go to Dallas or even Washington but I don’t think so because he already worked for a meddling owner in Al Davis.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Oct 13, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just kidding. It was a reference to the great myth that is the Guppy. If you missed it, here’s the beginning.
by JComp11 on Oct 13, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad, I wasn't a "contributor" back then.... funny stuff though.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Oct 13, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was pretty funny. Almost as good as Jon Mcgraw Sacking Groceries.
by JComp11 on Oct 13, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it
got a couple line guys, then found a way to get a higher pick then what we gave up smart and lucky moves now whats out there in the 5th or will we use those to try and trade up
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by redmedicone on Oct 13, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually thought about bringing up Thigpen as a reciever...
probably would have taken some abuse for that. Putting him out there on 3rd down would have given other teams fits about what we might do, even if he was a decoy. Oh well, he’s gone, no need to really talk about it.
by BarryS on Oct 13, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not thigpen at wr
I believe that Edleman (not sure if i spelt it right) for the patriots was a qb, now he is a wes welker fill in. Thigpen obviously runs well with the ball. Im sure he could run a route and catch a ball too. Not saying he would be a good wr but we have no evidence to suggest he wouldnt have been able too.
by gochiefsgo on Oct 13, 2009 2:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Babb thinks the Chiefs have 2 6th rounders?
http://twitter.com/kb_kcstar/statuses/4844741883
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 13, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if cassell stays healthy...
That’s a really really big “if” unless the line improves significantly. But the best strategy is always to take the best player on the board at that time and then trade. Position of strength to get what’s needed.
by crackpipe on Oct 13, 2009 11:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

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