Chiefs QB Cassel Compared to....Roethlisberger?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 12, 2009 8:00 AM CDT
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In yesterday's 26-20 loss to the Dallas Cowboys, QB Matt Cassel was the second leading rusher (28) on the team, only nine yards behind leader Larry Johnson (37). His 4.0 average is better than the running back.
(And, on a side note, he still has some trouble sliding. He had a tendency to not slide but that's a whole different story.)
After the game, Cowboys nose tackle Jay Ratliff was asked about Cassel and his elusiveness.
"Yes, he might be as hard as [Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben] Roethlisberger to bring down," Ratliff said. "He can create some time and make plays downfield and that’s what he did, so my hat’s off to him."At one point in the fourth quarter, Cassel had been hit by a Cowboys defender on 26 of 34 pass attempts. That includes four sacks.
"I'll have to look at the film," backup G/T Wade Smith said. "I know we wanted to keep him clean as much as possible. I'm sure he got hit but that's why he is who he is. He's going to still make plays and he's going to get up and make plays.
Despite the pass rush, a few players have noted how comfortable he looks back there, that includes Smith and tight end Sean Ryan, whose first two receptions went for first downs.
"I felt like he was comfortable all game," Ryan said after the game. If Ryan was lying, then he's got me fooled, but I agree with him. Cassel didn't look flustered despite the heavy pass rush. I mean, really, think about it. Getting hit on 26 of 34 pass attempts at one point? That's unbelievable.
"Obviously, there was a pretty good rush in his face," Ryan continued, "but he never stressed it. There were a couple of lineman that got hurt, and we were moving guys around, but he seemed calm all around."
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Mike Goff
is a bum. He actually never even lifted his head on the blocked FG. I’m not sure he took his damn hand off the ground.
HEY GOFF! Look up! There is a freaking 300 pound guy jumping over your stupid, worthless ass.
If I have a complaint about Haley it is that Goff is still getting to play professional football. That guy is terrible.
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 12, 2009 8:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree
I noticed a spark of life in the Chief’s offense immediately after Goff left the game; then it died when he returned.
I suspect Goff is an agent sent from the Bolts to sabotage our team.
Not that we needed it.
by Salva on Oct 12, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does It All The Time
The announcers pointed it out in the New York game. Is he that slow that he can’t get his head up on a field goal attempt. Get the guy out of here
Jerome
by easyjb on Oct 12, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goff has got to go.
Why did Haley deactivate Ndukwe yesterday? And furthermore, why was Savage inactive as well???
This team hes enough problems. I don’t understand why Ndukwe isn’t the starting RG. He is clearly a better option than Goff and as far as I’m concerned, LJ needs to be a short yardage/goal line RB instead of a featured back. I want to see a Savage/Charles 1-2 punch at RB and bring LJ in as a 3rd and short guy. I do NOT like the way Haley is running this offense. All of these things seem so obvious. I really don’t think Haley knows what he’s doing.
On another note, I am starting to wonder if Lance Long or Lawrence might not help us to get some speed in the offense. It seems to be a big problem at this point.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 12, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that, too. I thought, "What the hell are you doing allowing someone to hurdle
your ass while you never move?" I couldn’t believe it. I had never seen that in a pro football game before.
by G.L. on Oct 12, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not so fast
MoLegg is gonna be a good player for us….but I feel your pain we all saw that last play…..where was the safety on that play though
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
by DT58forever on Oct 12, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leggett
got thrown around my Miles Austin – instead of going for the tackle, on the first of Miles’ 2 TD’s he went to swat the ball, tried to take Miles down with an arm tackle and Miles shook it off, boom up the sideline with Mike Brown chasing him – then, about 20 minutes later, the same thing happened. He always preaches about having to take the mistakes put them behidn you and get better from them, well in thsi game, Maurice clearly did not get better from his mistakes.
Mike Brown was right behind him, and his role on teh field is to be thje last man to try and make the tackle, but he over-pursued, twice, and Miles TD from the fourth quarter to put them up 20-13 was deja-vu in OT.
do i think bernard pollard wouldv’e played any better? honestly, i dont. i think when haley made the decision to keep brown he saw him as a better player for us than pollard would have been. when 4 of the fist 5 teams you play are the Ravens, Eagles, Giants and Cowboys- it’s gonna be hard to win, especially with where this team is at and what its trying to do. We will win this year, and I really do think it can be next week and I really do think we can beat the Chargers, Broncos and get our revenge at the Raiders in Oakland.
by CHIEFER on Oct 12, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only game
we really didnt show up for was teh eagles game, where we didnt have dwayne boew, or derrick johnson. it hink we’ll be ok. i really do.
by CHIEFER on Oct 12, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes two of us apparently
Gets kind of hard hearing from all these Chiefs fans who are ready to give up on the season and run Haley and/or Pioli out of town.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 12, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodged several bullets
but why did Cassel continuously pump the ball? I’m hoping Haley can teach him to just throw the ball and not tuck it in. I’ve noticed Croyle sometimes does this as well.
by xchiefsx on Oct 12, 2009 8:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I assume he is trying to look guys off
I don’t think we have receivers just running around open all over the place. If we did I don;t think Cassel would be standing there doing pump fakes.
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but why does he pump in the first place?
i don’t think i’ve ever seen a QB pump that much since it’s usually on purpose. it’s like he changes his mind at the last second.
by xchiefsx on Oct 12, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's exactly what he's doing
He can sense if it’s going to be a low percentage pass while in mid swing of the arm, he pulls it back down. That’s why he’s got such a good TD to INT ratio, not just this year, but last year
by jcru on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Both QBs are Pumping
The receivers don’t have separation.
by Ryan in Nixa on Oct 12, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when a QB pumps the ball
they are trying to get the defender to bite on it and the recievers gets open down field
by Bestofthewest on Oct 12, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is alot like Roethlisberger he likes to hold onto to the ball a looong time thats why they
both were 2 of the most sacked qb’s in the nfl last season
by Bleedzredngold on Oct 12, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holding on too long
Cassel has been critical of himself on this point as well. So, he knows he should be trying harder to get the ball out quicker. Of course, the other side of that equation is that the line needs to give him time and our receivers have to find ways of getting open sooner (or at all).
I’ve been very pessimestic about our seeming lack of progress but, I’ll tell you what, I had fun watching that game. I still had it in the back of my mind that we were going to find a way to lose. But, it actually felt like a game we could build on. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me. I was way more upset about the Raiders loss. And, in the Philly and Giants games, we just never showed up.
I know moral victories don’t count I know it gets old talking about the long run. But, at least we can rest assured that we won’t have to face the NFC East for another four years! And, in that time, we will get a LOT better!
Go Chiefs!
by STL-CHIEFS-FAN on Oct 12, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely unrelated, but I had to miss the game yesterday.
I opened my new business on Saturday and was in the shop all weekend. Finally not too busy right now, so I’m trying to catch up.
1. The Texans unis looked GREAT. We need to permanently change to that style. The black shoes and grey facemasks make a huge difference. It’s still minor enough to stay true to our history, and for Clark Hunt to be true to his father’s wishes.
2. How did O’Callaghan play?
3. What’s the word on O-line injuries?
4. Was Mike Brown as bad all game as he was on those big plays??
5. Did DJ’s playing time increase?
6. Report on LJ Oor Jamaal Charles?
by HTrayne on Oct 12, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cassel was pressured all day
But I think O’Callaghan is the best option at this point. No word on Albert, but he was walking around on the sidelines. Goff came back in. Brown was decent on run support, he was just involved with those big plays with Austin. DJ’s playing time did not increase. LJ looked the same, Charles is looking better in the receiving game.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 12, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Take On Your Questions
2. I thought O’Callaghan was a bright spot on the offensive line
3. I think they will all be back next week, although Goff might be move to the bench
4. I thought Mike Brown looked out of position a lot yesterday, including cut back runs but I’m not laying the day on him
5. No, I dont think I ever saw the guy on the field
6. LJ is done…like put a fork in him. I’ve defended the guy all season but what he lacks in vision he makes up for with a lack of power or burst.
7. Charles looked decent, had two hands on the ball most the day and really needs more carries in the backfield to take away the LJ sucking sound you hear.
by Ryan in Nixa on Oct 12, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on all points, Ryan
Goff SHOULD go to the bench…. for the love of God, put him on the bench!!!
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 12, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Texan's red look great.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 12, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i loev the grey facemasks
I wish i could ahve a say in changing uni colors. I’d keep the Chiefs arrowhead with teh same red but a grey facemask, and grey pants with the red and yellow line going down the sides.
by CHIEFER on Oct 12, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Chiefs should run some full house sets
Why don’t the chiefs run some full house or pro set? Given the terrible state of the offensive line why not have those extra blockers in the back field to pick up rushers.
Larry has actually been blocking better this year than in his entire career. He can’t run anymore but leave him in there to block. Charles is also a pretty good blocker. Why not run the pro set, then if there are no rushers to pick up, one or both RB’s could slip out late for a screen.
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 12, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
I was thinking that yesterday. I don’t want to see Cassel end up on IR because the line can’t do it’s job. Every team we face the rest of the year is going to blitz the hell out of us.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 12, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's homer time.
I don’t know if the players read the article that Gretz wrote, but during the game, I saw them doing the things Gretz wrote about. They were picking up Cassel after he got knocked down and the one time that I seen that they showed Cassel on the sidelines he was talking to Wade.
I don’t know if they read the article and were just doing the things Gretz said they didn’t do before or maybe they are finally trying to become a team.
Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Oct 12, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CHIEFS PRIDE
Where has it gone? The fans dont cheer as loud as they did in the past. All they do is complain. I think i was watching a different game than everyone else. To me it looked like we played one hell of a game. yes we had some bad plays. but we had some good ones. we looked like we were a team again. we lost we did that when we were a good team. lets stand up and cheer show the chiefs we are thier fans.
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Oct 12, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I know it's tough with the economy the way it is and the price of tickets...
But it was shameful, and sad to see the Dallas defense getting the fans to cheer louder against our offense… IN OUR OWN STADIUM!!!! Our guys were pretty much playing an away game after the half. They definitely are starting to look like a cohesive team.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 12, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,couldn't believe that...
I could see it if we were getting killed,well maybe not…We all know the players feed off the crowd.One of the reasons I chose the Chiefs as my team was because of the fan base. If I was within 500 miles of KC I’d hock everything I owned for season tickets-and you would see me at every game cheering for them.
by idahochieffan on Oct 12, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devils advocate here...
What the hell do we have to cheer for? A team that’s lost damn near 30 games in a row? Yes, the team played pretty well yesterday but, that means nothing if your team, QB, coach, somebody can’t find a way to win at the end. Don’t get me wrong, I am happy to see improvement on the team but, the fact is that everybody in that stadium knew the Chiefs were going to lose, even when they were up by 10 at halftime. I always know they are going to lose because they always do.
I’m still a fan. I LOVE the Chiefs but, the reality has set in and the fact of the matter is the Chiefs are now officially the bottom feeders of the NFL. Until they start winning some games, people are justified for not going nuts. Why get your hopes up when you know deep down they are going to lose.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 12, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe im a purist but i have enough Arrowhead Pride to not crawl into the shadows
every time it gets tough. up until this point not alot of people involved with the chiefs were doing there job coaches,front office,media but the one thing we could always count on was the 12th man he didnt show up yesterday. Me and the rest of the diehards will be
at Arrowhead when the bandwagon decides to turn around.
by Bleedzredngold on Oct 12, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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