Cassel Clarification

I love the 7TD 2INT stat he has going so far.

but he is killing me. He is NOT a draw type rusher…we need to stop using him as such, throw JC in there for draws.

I likes when we got some throws to him out of the backfield, but it is clear that he has lost a step or 2. He is the type of back that needs a head of steem into the pile and our line cannot give that to him at this point.

he takes time on his reads, which is probably why he is a low INT, high sack QB. Pocket awareness is off because he’s still getting used to having a fluid to non existent pocket

the broncos are an absolute pest

It was one hell of a game!! Cold as shit out there!! I am just now getting feeling back. My throat is sore from all the yelling and cheering. When Bowe caught the 4th quarter pass…..omg we all went nuts!!! Cassel started killling when haley opened up the pass plays….lj runs way better to the outside….this was awesome and I will post my pics when I get home…

All up and down this thread, jumping to foolish conclusions and trying to get people riled up…shameless

other then the Tom Brady remark. Tom Brady is one of the greatest QB’s of all time, and is a very humble and unselfish person. I know he takes a pay cut on purpose to lower the Patriots cap, I don’t know of any other player that would do that. Plus if a player did something to me that was illegal I would bitch too, it’s not just because he’s a baby it helped his team out.

we could go 0-84 and never win a game in 6 years straight and some one would still be on here telling us how wrong and stupid we are for not seeing how wonderful we are.

First off, you can’t sit Cassel now. That’s preposterous…and your right, that’s not going to happen. It shouldn’t happen. You got to give the guy the confidence he needs to feel secure and comfortable. But you also owe him some type of legitimate protection.

The fact that you think he will be great behind a great offensive line with some dangerous offensive weapons is bad news though….very bad news. It shouldn’t take that to make someone great. If it does, he isn’t great. Which he isn’t anyway but that’s besides the point.

He is to other teams what maybe Hill is from San Fran. Someone who finally this year is earning an ounce of respect..and I stress the word EARNING…but who in the previous couple of years has been a wishy washy QB.

That’s how other teams see him anyway. If you jump around the internet and search for articles on Cassel, he is not a highly regarded QB and rightfully so. But it’s no different anywhere else. All teams sites do the same thing. There’s people here in Tampa where I live that said the EXACT same shit about Dilfer. OH he’s soooo good, it’s just this …it’s just that…it’s just it’s just…and I said the same thing then to them…it’s just nothing other than what it is. What you see, what you read statistically is the truth. That’s it.

Humans have the inate ability to bypass the logic button and the reality button in order to see what they want to see. I’m behind Cassel because he is my QB. It’s that simple. But he IS absolutely not confident at times. He DOES make very critical misreads and errors.

In other words, he has a LONG way to go. But he is a very inexperienced QB. Very muc so and it’s to be expected. But like Chris’ article about the stats on the front page of AP…stats don’t lie in this case. We are ranked where we’re ranked because we are that bad including Cassel everyone…he doesn’t walk on water and he isn’t a super QB.

His long ball last year according to the Patriots themselves…was not his strong point…he’s a mid range passer…anything past that and he has about a 50/50 shot at hitting his target…he’s missed all year on long passes…all year…

I kept my mouth shut the first two games of the season because it was WAY too early to judge anyone on our team period. But we’re 5 games in and this is not little league…the pros dont need excuses…we just don’t get it done period….

but cassel may or may not turn out to be the answer; that still remains to be seen. We just don’t know yet.

2. I think that Cassel will be fine on a team with superstar receivers and a good line.

I think that’s true. The question is, can he be part of a contender with GOOD receivers and a good line.

3. I love his leadership. You can tell this guy learned a lot about leadership from Brady.

I agree. But for all the eager learning he was doing all offseason, you’d think he’d have a better command than he appears to have.

4. I love his toughness.

Me, too.

5. His pocket awareness is terrible. Again, he looked better against the Cowboys but still made some critical errors in this aspect.

Wouldn’t say it’s TERRIBLE, but, like Donovan McNabb a few years back, he doesn’t seem to know the difference between an all-out blitz where the ball HAS to come out quick and a 3- or 4-man rush, when he could do just a LITTLE somethin’ with his feet to buy time, rather than forcing an early pass against 8 men in coverage. There was no objective reason for Dallas to get a sack on him sending only 4, especially late in the game, when those guys were flaggin’, regardless of the absence of Albert.

6. He doesnt look down the field when he has time.

Like Thiggy before him, he seems to be another KC QB who’d rather pull it down and run than use the extra second to survey the field. This tendency has surfaced SINCE coming to KC. It was one of the clear DIFFERENCES between Cassel in New England and Thigpen in KC, when I was scoutin’ Cassel.

7. He is not accurate at all on his deep passes. The final drive of regulation might be the only time this season when he has thrown any accurate passes over 10-15 yards.

First off, you’re trying to put it where the defender can’t make a play on it and to give your receiver a chance to make a play. It looks to me like Cassel doesn’t yet have receivers who can make a play on a few of those. Still some receivers not necessarily going where Cassel expects. And yeah, still some overthrows.

8. His decision making is very suspect. The Oakland game at halftime he cost the team a FG. That is prime evidence. But it goes further than that. He took a penalty for delay right after a penalty against the Oline in the 4th quarter against the Cowboys. you cant put your self in a 3rd and more than 20…

This was very troubling to me. Looked like a QB with very little actual authority on the field, and defenses FEAST on that shit.

9. He doesnt appear to do any pre-snap reads…This one is hard to prove it is just how I see it when I watch him

Agree. The pass and playcall seem to have NOTHING to do with what the defense is showing by formation, and, when in shotgun, after the snap. You can say “There was unblocked defender!” but LOTS of QBs face unblocked defenders, and KNOW that means they oughta have a mismatch somewhere else on the field, and I see NONE of that.

10. He doesnt move down his progressions. Some of this could just be that he doesnt have time on most passing plays but even when he has time, it seems like he has a primary receiver and if that is not open he goes to the outlet. I hope this is more that he does not “own” the offense yet and might not remember his progressions on every play.

“Ownership” of the offense is a biggie for me, too.

11. My biggest problem with him is that we payed for a Franchise type guy that can make things happen and what we appear to have is a game manager type guy that won’t screw it up but will not make plays needs someone else to be the playmaker.

Not unreasonable coin for a player with an 11-5 season and all that he showed last season. What’s unreasonable about it is throwin’ him to the wolves before anything decisive was done on O-Line. I’m concerned that a season like this one could ruin him before he really gets a chance to find a comfort zone.