October 2009 Todd Haley Approval Poll

No

He’s screwed up about as much as a head coach can screw up in his first three games short of showing up on the sidelines naked. Not to mention he quit on the Philadelphia game at halftime. I don’t care if he claims he wasn’t quitting…because his definition of “quitting” is apparently about as accurate as Bush’s definition of “torture”.

I am singularly unimpressed with either the way Haley has run this football team or the results he has produced (and I’m not just talking about wins and losses).

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yah you are or you wouldn't be so pissed.

everyone is just pissed because he still hasn’t won a game. you can blame it on whatever you want but if we had won a game, these issues wouldn’t have as much steam behind them.

by Leaf on Oct 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I donno...If he beats the Raiders...like he should have...

And still quits in the Philly game I think fans are still pissed. I mean we played the Raiders…at home..we have to win that game….period, and its not something to write home about…it’s just something that has to get done.

Like taking a big ole shit after eating too much Wendys.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 1, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Not Even Pissed Because Just Because He's 0-3

I knew this wouldn’t be a good team, so I didn’t expect very many wins (as my signature block states). It doesn’t even bother me that much that he made a lot of stupid mistakes…rookie head coaches sometimes do that (although firing Gailey and dumping the offense two weeks before the season was way over the top).

I’m pissed because he quit on a game at halftime. In the pantheon of sins for an NFL head coach, that’s one of the biggest.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Other side

Ok just to play the devils advocate on this one…

So if we dropped back to pass every time in the second half… With the way we were blocking thier front 4 with 6 blockers, we would likely be 3 and out 70% of the time. Then you add the fact that they were moving the ball all day on us…

What would losing the game 50-14 accomplish? Running the ball gave him a look at our OL in a real game. Not the practice like you have stated against Jackson/Dorsey/Tyler.

I know that this shoudnt be an extended camp but when losing 27-7 with 11 min left in the 3rd with our team what harm does it to make your men do some dirty work in the second half?

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Understood About Devil's Advocate

With the way we were blocking thier front 4 with 6 blockers, we would likely be 3 and out 70% of the time. Then you add the fact that they were moving the ball all day on us…What would losing the game 50-14 accomplish?

It would show the players that regardless of how badly they were getting beaten, the coaching staff still expected them to try to win…it would be a message from the staff to the players that they thought the team had the ability to compete (even if they don’t). By giving up at halftime, Haley effectively told his team “You guys stink and if I don’t like what I see out there I’m going to take even the remotest chance of winning away and embarass you by running out the clock.” Where’s the upside in that? Why would any player even care about trying to win for a coach like that? Why not just do what you can to make it through the season in that case and wait for the guy to get fired or for you to be able to go somewhere else?

Seriously…what possible lesson could be gleaned out of that besides Haley saying “I don’t care whether we win or lose but whether you make me happy.”? It was beyond bush league on Haley’s part…it was embarassing. And this doesn’t even touch on what it says to the fans who tuned in to watch…they don’t spend three hours of their Sunday to watch the team treat games like they’re meaningless preseason contests. The fans who pay for season tickets certainly aren’t there to watch Haley dick around for three hours…they expect a full effort to win if not necessarily a win

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have you ever played Football outside of High School?

Try being in college and losing by 50! Either way you lose but losing by 50 and losing by 20 IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE in how you feel as a player! Embarrassed or just beaten.

Do you think the KC players were looking at the game at 27-7 in the 3rd and thinking to themselves “You know what we can win this”

You are over thinking on how these players viewed the game. Yes they would have continued to play hard but didn’t they do that when he was continuing to run the ball?

You don’t think the Tennessee players thought losing to Florida by 10 was better than the 35 they were supposed to lose by? Really think about it…

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Have No Idea Where You're Getting 50 From

They were down by 17 at halftime…not 40, not 30, 17. So the idea that the Eagles were going to run up 33 unanswered points on them is at best a stretch.

Do you think the KC players were looking at the game at 27-7 in the 3rd and thinking to themselves "You know what we can win this"

Teams have rebounded from worse. John Elway made a career of it. And if the mindset of players is that they can’t overcome a three possession margin with half the game to play, then that falls on the coach. If the team doesn’t believe they’re capable of winning, then that falls on the coach for not preparing them to compete or instilling the confidence in them that they believe they have a chance of winning. Giving up at halftime isn’t something that’s done to protect the ego of players…it’s done to save the coach from embarassment because he did such a shitty job preparing his team for competition.

Not that it matters because Haley took the option of winning off the table.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

JOHN ELWAY!

WOW reaching a bit are we!!!

Saying 50 was making a point…

They scored 24 in the first half… We had the ball for 15 min 57 sec in the first half. They scored on 4 of 6 possessions(3td’s 1 FG)

If we extended the game by passing on ever play granted we would probably score but even passing in the 1st half was 6-9 for 38 yards with 3 sacks… GREAT IDEA lets keep passing… He is only getting sacked every 3 drop backs! Who is to say how many time they would have scored in the second half if we extended the game clock… Hell they scored on 2 of 5 drives in the second half…

You guys are acting like Cassel was throwing all over them in the first half!

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really

“Giving up at halftime isn’t something that’s done to protect the ego of players…it’s done to save the coach from embarassment because he did such a shitty job preparing his team for competition.”

Haley had Ryan so unprepared that he let 2 guys go around the outside of him and blocked NO ONE to get Cassel sacked(guess haley didnt teach him how to hit a pass rusher)!!! Haley had Flowers so unprepared that he let McCoy cut back all the way across the field on his TD run(guess haley didnt tell him he had contain) I guess he also forgot to teach him balance because he fell over on Jackson long TD as well… Damn you Haley!!!

Why arent we putting the blame on some of these players for not doing their jobs…

I also suppose that it was Haleys fault Legget was pathetic vs Bal…

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He didn't take winning off the table.

As much as you say half a game is plenty of time to make up three scores you could also say it’s enough time to run the ball and then play off the run. The problem is the players didn’t go out and do that. It’s not the coaches fault that the players decided to let the other guys beat them. Half a football game is plenty of time to come out of the break, run the ball, outplay the guy opposite of you and play action off the run and come back from 3 scores.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 1, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just to add another thing

You said, “They were down by 17 at halftime” “Teams have rebounded from worse”

Let me do some math for you because you don’t seem to be able to do it for yourself…

We scored on 1 drive out of 6 in the first half when we were “trying to win the game” So being down 17 means 3 possessions (2TD’s and a FG)… Most second half’s you are going to have 6 possessions. We had 4 TD’s and 2 FG’s Offensively in 28 possessions before half time of the Philly game… That is 6 scoring possessions out of 28(21.4%) You really think we could have scored on 50% of the possession in the second half and held Philly scoreless?

You act like we are good! Bad teams don’t come back down 17 or 20 in the NFL…

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coach

Does anyone really think that we would be any better than 2-5(at best) at the bye week with Cowher or Shanahan? We will most likely be 0-7 at the bye week right now…

You have to look at what he has to work with as a team. We didn’t just win 6 games in 2 years all because of Herm… Yes he and Carl brought the team in but those 6 wins are a direct result of the actual talent (at key areas) on our team.

Cowher was such a great coach that after he left Pit they just fell apart right? They won the SB because they have Talent/Exp all over the place!

I am not saying that I think Haley is god or anything close but you cant make an average player great just by coaching! You can instill work ethic in they gym and on the field…

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

0-7 as a Chiefs = Meh

I’d still rather have Marty

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 1, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yep

I want Marty Ball back in KC

by benton on Oct 1, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I hate to admit it....

But I kinda miss losing in the first round…I mean at least the whole regular season was terrific.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 1, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marty Ball

Required an OL!

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I, on the other hand,

think Haley is doing a good job. I was hoping for more success than 0-3 at this point, but it has become increasingly apparent that the talent level is even less than what I thought it was. We have done some good things and are moving in the right direction. We need more standout (with a capital “S”) type players. I don’t know if our current supporting cast of players is strong enough for people to emerge as these types of players. We will see as the season wears on.

by G.L. on Oct 1, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Haley's problem and the Chiefs problem.

The # 1 problem with this football team is the o-line. We will never be good until we get a good center, right guard, and right tackle. It is really not that hard to figure out. We can never actually run our offense because the other teams defense is always in our face. LJ is not that bad he just doesn’t have time to even look for a place to run. When we hand the ball off the other teams D is already in the back field. Even if we had Peterson it would be the same.

by Dave2586 on Oct 1, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

all of you voting no...

are going to change your vote to yes, if not by the end of this year, than next year or the year after……

by zbartmess on Oct 1, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I voted no

because the poll is for OCT. not 2 years from now.

by benton on Oct 1, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

nO

My “no vote” has more to do with the firing of Chan Gailey weeks before the start of the season. Its not like he was a brand new hire and didn’t work out. This isn’t the equivalent of Mike Shanahan or Brian Billick who are seasoned coaches firing coordinators, Haley is a first time coach and appears to be in over his head.

RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.

by craig in calgary on Oct 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe but i don't think that is the case

we aren’t losing ball games because the playcalling. we are losing because our offense can’t get moving and that is because of the OL not the playcalling.

by Leaf on Oct 1, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We are losing because our offense can't get moving

But this has nothing to do with playcalling? I’d argue this has everything to do with playcalling.

If the O-line is a weakness, call plays that reduces the amount of time the O-Line has to hold blocks. I’m sure its not that simple but Pittsburg just won a Superbowl with a terrible O-Line and GB’s O-line is in terrible shape and they move the ball well. It can’t just be all about the O-line.

RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.

by craig in calgary on Oct 1, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

14, 10, 14 points Haley has been responsible for....

You can pick up an O coordinator off the street and put up thoes kind of points.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 1, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what do you expect him to do

turn a crap team into an offesive powerhouse overnight. sure 14, 10, 14 arn’t great numbers but look at gailey, who everyone seems to be pissed that got fired before the start of the season. he put up only 10, 13, 10 in the preseason and averaged only 17 PPG last season. not much better

by Leaf on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and averaged 23.6 ppg over the last 10 games of last year.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 1, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They recognized they were failing and

changed the scheme to fit the players they had.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 1, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and who's to say hailey wont do the same.

we are three flippen games in and everyone is acting like the season is already over.

by Leaf on Oct 1, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

when he does I'll be impressed

I can only go by what I see, not what I hope.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 1, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha

Nice Haley line.

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Oct 1, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's as good as Herm for quotes. =)

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 1, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i never siad you shouldn't go by what you see

if he hasn’t impressed you or anyone else for the matter that’s fine. i’m not trying to convince anyone that they should be impressed with him. everyone is entitled to their opinion. i’m just saying there hasn’t been a whole lot to see yet, since he’s only had 3 games, so it’s a little unfair to make a definitive judgment.

by Leaf on Oct 1, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dumb decisions like that are why we are in this mess in the first place.

It was fun for 1/2 a season for the fans so its watchable but really was a longterm setback.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 1, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't change schemes midseason...

Because your players suck. You establish what you are going to do and who you are going to be and you get the players who can make that happen.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 1, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

Chan’s numbers for the first 3 games last year was 10, 8 and 14.

by ChiefsBearkitten on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

Steelers O Line is pretty far from terrible.

The high # of sacks is all on Big Ben. The guy will hold on to the ball all day back there. And usually has that luxury due to that line. He’ll stand in the pocket and stare down a pass rush to get that extra second to find a guy downfield and hit him.

It helps that he’s a huge mutant of a human being, so he’s not that concerned about taking a hit.

Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.

by TRSChief on Oct 1, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we'll see...

I’m not convinced he’s done anyting wrong. I still have a wait & see attitude, and until then, I’m not ready to write him off. A lof of the stuff said about him & Pioli reminds me of 1989 when Jerry Jones & Jimmy Johnson came to the Cowboys, and threw Tom Landry out. Lots of people in Dallas weren’t happy. Especially after they went 1-15 their first year. Everyone changed their tune once it started producing results. Not saying that’s going to happen here. We don’t know, but I do think the Dolphins, Falcons and Ravens “spoiled” a lot of fans into thinking that turning around a franchise was easy.

Just something to think about. Here are the first year records of NFL coaches who are considered to have developed “dynasty” teams in their decade:

Bill Belichick: 5-11
Jimmy Johnson: 1-15
Bill Walsh: 2-14
Chuck Noll: 1-13

Doesn’t in any way mean that we’re headed in the right direction, just serves as a reminder that these coaches were all hired for a reason: The teams were AWFUL when they first came to the job.

by jbj8609 on Oct 1, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs

Oh I'd love nothing more than to stick my foot completely in my mouth....

I guess only time will tell…which sucks for now.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 1, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

very good arguement rec

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 1, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great Post jbj8609

REC

by ChiefsFan79 on Oct 1, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for this

Rec’d! Can’t be said enough…

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 1, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I voted not Sure

If you had this post on Monday I’m sure the votes would have been much worse and I would have voted disapprove. But with time came some understanding I thought the Chiefs gave up in the second have with philly. But I do understand that throwing the ball like I wanted to would have only gotten Cassel killed, the O line was killing us. There was a need to try to pound the ball, and I also saw that LJ is not near the back he once was. The truth of the matter is, Haley doesn’t have much to work with but at least I see He is trying everything he can to get this team better. what is it like 22 of last years players are no longer in the NFL? Hell, what does that say about what he had to start with. I’m still willing to wait and see, remember 3 wins is an improvement over last year.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We have 3 QBs (had 4 at the time).

Pull Cassel and put someone else in. Leave Cassel in and let him roll out. Try to win.

Protecting Cassel is no excuse. “Establishing Identity” isn’t either.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 1, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really the post for politics in my opinion.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 1, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

y'all know where I stand

I am so not impressed with Haley, and that’s putting it mildly – I could list this reason or that one, but bottom line, I think he’s screwed up in just about every way possible – in fact, I think he’s invented some NEW ways for a head coach to screw things up (or course, my love for Haley extends just as far to Pioli – to me the two are intertwined)

the latest, of course, is the back to training camp run run run punishment if you make a mistake in practice – this despite it being a “disruption” of practice (Haley’s words) but he’s going to do it anyway – yup, one more instance of Haley treating the players like little kids

he’s gonna lose ‘em bigtime if he hasn’t already

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 1, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

So far, I think the guy’s actually taking this team in the opposite direction of where it needs to go. He claims to be big on accountability and effort, but he’d rather quit at halftime rather than get embarassed by his team’s poor performance.

Hell, any of us could take over this job, insult and demean players, make them run laps and go 0-3.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could take 'em to 0-3 without the laps.

I’m that good.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 1, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really guys?

How many wins did you guys expect before the bye week when the schedule came out… That was before all the preseason crap happened?

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Expected At Least One Win

Over Oakland. Considering that it was a home game and that they have the worst QB in the league. Of course, Haley blew that one even though Russell turned in the worst performance ever by a QB who won the game.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just to make a point

I know that these are two different guys but look at Parcells

1983 took over the Giants 3-12-1 1984 9-7
1993 took over the NEPats 5-11 1994 10-6

That was only while switching HC’s

in 2008 4 teams fired the HC and the GM.

Cle- 0-3
TB- 0-3
KC- 0-3
Den- 3-0

It is real hard to change both of these guys and win in year 1…

by flyin_squirl on Oct 1, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Not Sure What Your Point Is

Cle- 0-3
TB- 0-3
KC- 0-3
Den- 3-0

All I see with that comparison is three teams who made really crappy coaching hires.

Oh, and Denver didn’t have GM last year so they really don’t fit into your irrelevant subset. and their record is entirely a factor of a) a freakish bounce in the closing minutes of their first game and b) two games against teams that actually have a worse QB situation than KC has had the first three games.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 1, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you know UC

i think i understand you now. you and your way of thinking. i don’t always agree with it, but can appreciate it. i think your profile says it all.

Long-time Chiefs fan, devoted cynic, merciless enemy of mediocrity

by Leaf on Oct 1, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Appreciate That, Leaf...Seriously

It’s just that I’ve been watching the team a long time, I’ve seen coaches and GMs come and go and all of them (except Marty) promised a bright new day that they never delivered on. So I’m just not impressed when Haley and Pioli make the same kind of promises but deliver results that look even worse than what the guys before them delivered.

I will say, though, that while I’ve not been happy with the Chiefs’ season so far, I do have faith that if things don’t improve that the team’s owner will not let the neglect run on for 20 years like his dad did. I think Haley’s been a horrible coach so far and Pioli’s been a mediocre GM, but Clark Hunt’s been a reasonable and responsible owner and I think he’ll do what he can to make sure this team is better than what we’ve seen so far under his leadership. And that’s something positive to build on.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.

by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs