Talking about the Salary Cap
by Chris Thorman on Jan 9, 2009 1:06 PM CST
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The Sports Guru from The Mile High Report was kind enough to put together some great info on the salary cap in 2009 and 2010, which is possibly an uncapped season.
I'm going cut & paste what he wrote verbatim. This should clear up any inconsistencies you've been reading about.
First, since 2009 is the final year of the cap, teams CANNOT take huge cap numbers, change them to bonuses and spread the hit out over future years. If you are a team with a receiver set to count 13 mil against the cap, chances are he’s going to get cut. Hence the reason Brett Favre won’t "commit" to 2009 for "several weeks. The Jets are 10 Mil over the cap, reportedly, and he is hoping they cut him.
Guru goes on to give us the ramifications of an uncapped 2010 season.
Free Agency Requirements Raised From 4 to 6 years -- Currently, players who are unsigned and have finished at least four NFL seasons are free. In the 2010 market, players will be free if they are unsigned after at least their sixth NFL season. In other words, 2009 would have to be a player's sixth season, and he would have to enter 2010 unsigned. Let's use Cleveland wide receiver Braylon Edwards as an example. In his original rookie contract, signed in 2005, the final year is 2009, which would be his fifth NFL season. Ordinarily, he'd be a free-agent in 2010 -- if the team didn't sign him before then or place a franchise tag on him. But under the 2010 rules, he won't be a free-agent.
Three 'Franchise'-type Tags Instead Of One -- Right now teams can designate one player each year as a "Franchise" player(average of top-5 salaries at position) or "Transition" player(average of top-10 salaries at position), restricting his ability to negotiate with other teams. Should the League go uncapped in 2010 and 2011 each team would have access to 1-Franchise Tag and 2-Transition Tags. Not only would a player have to wait 6 years just to get to Free Agency, they would have a much greater likelihood of getting restricted even further with one of these tags.
Top 8 Teams Will Be Restricted -- If the uncapped year is reached, the teams with the best eight records in football in 2009 will be severely restricted from jumping into the pool. It's still not precisely determined how the system would work, but let's say the Patriots are one of the top eight and want to sign a free-agent to a five-year, $20-million contract. They'd have to lose their own player or players to contracts totaling $20 million before they could sign the free-agent they want.
Conceptually, that's how this clause in the deal is going to work, but the exact mechanics of it are not clear yet. The purpose is very clear: The best teams are going to have tight leashes in free agency. And I can tell you from talking to a few traditionally good teams at the league meetings last week, they're not happy about it.
Digest and discuss. I'll jump in in a bit.
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I’m not sure what this has to do with whether or not Pioli has been signed yet?
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Jan 9, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In a way, I would wish the Chiefs could be one of those top 8 teams!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Jan 9, 2009 1:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is just like in Madden....
When you take off the salary cap option. Sweet!
On another note, Tony G was named1st team ALL PRO. GO Tony!
by rustdog on Jan 9, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
woow
so basically every player signed has to play 6 years min is this any player or just high priced players what about off the street players??
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Non capped year
Would change it from 4 years as a fully vested veteran to 6 years.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 9, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And then everyone goes to arbitration...
I’ve been saying this for the past year.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Jan 9, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
booring
Soooo is this going to make free agency wack cause look at the fins for example they wheel and deal get porter and then get chad p now they make the playoffs its cuz of free agency they can actually do this . But is this saying that you cant wheel and deal and you pretty much just have to wait for the draft every year ?
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It means that 2 owners in the league will buy the SB
It’ll either be Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder.
It means “money will talk and BS will walk”
It means the second coming of the NY Yankees to football.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Jan 9, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
???
is there going to be a league cap or a team cap
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 1:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
pros and cons
pros and cons give me some pros and cons of this
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 1:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
it means we should draft.....
Knowshon Moreno. Think about it.
by rustdog on Jan 9, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It means
Parody in the league will disappear.
The NFL will look like the MLB.
3 or 4 teams in the largest markets (ie: the most profitable ones) will have the money to buy whatever players they want, AND to lock them up for 6 years, and then tag the best of the best every year for as long as they want.
Meanwhile, the smaller market teams will have to scrape through the draft /free agency and hope and pray to get just the right chemistry to put together a winning team ONE year. — You can bet you backside that if they DO manage to put together a winning roster of el cheapo players that the next season their rosters are ragaved by the big guys and they fall back to mediocraty. — For Examples See" The Diamondbacks, or The Rays, or The Royals.
And when the same teams win over and over and over again with almost no hope for the rest a situation where the rich get richer (from sales of team gear and the like) and the poor move cities to the biggest available market they can find returns to the NFL.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Jan 9, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
MLB Doesn't Have A "Top 8" Restriction
I think that’s about the worst thing possible. Also, I’d be fine if it looked like MLB. Small-market teams like the Twins, Athletics, and Marlins have been consistently competitive. And when was the last time the Yankees won a World Series? Or the Dodgers? Heck, the Yankees didn’t even make the playoffs this year.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s still not precisely determined how the system would work,
and
Conceptually, that’s how this clause in the deal is going to work, but the exact mechanics of it are not clear yet.
“Uncapped” vs. “Top 8 Restriction” are polar opposites. I think that once they get the above worked out (if they even can), the restriction is going to go away. You CANNOT have both uncapped and say well….“you’re uncapped except for you guys”. Ain’t gonna fly. But we’ll see. There’s soooo much inuendo and speculation that I’ll stick to “uncapped” being/meaning “uncapped” for everyone.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Jan 9, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Think I See What They're Trying To Accomplish
I suspect the owners are thinking that they’ll be able to keep salaries below market value by not splitting a guaranteed share with the players and by maintaining solidarity on wage controls (trying to set their own market, basically). But I think they’re going to find what MLB owners eventually found out…all you need is one owner who decides he doesn’t want to play along (my money’s on Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder…although Al Davis is still a possibility) and the owners’ greed is going to turn in on itself and shoot costs up. Guys like Jerry Jones just can’t help themselves…they want to beat everyone else and that includes the other owners. Eventually they’ll find a way around the limitations and kick off the bidding wars again.
It sometimes takes awhile, but the market will always undercut crap like what the owners are trying to pull eventually.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry jones and steinbrenner
Just wanted to add in jerry jones and steinbrenner are partners in a new vending biz im pretty sure george is giving him tips on how to beat the system and get more money flowing for this upcoming cap stuff just wanted to throw that out there so the food that you will be eating at games will be helping the cowboys and the yankees .
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yanks And Cowboys Also Have Some Kind Of Partnership
Not sure what the focus of it is, marketing or something I heard…the Yankees also do the same thing with Manchester United over in England.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees are ballin
I use to work for a company and I called new york a lot most of those people couldent even see the yankees locally they had to actually purchase he games cuz steinbrenner owns the yes network so people would have to go to bars or someones house to watch it its like pay per view or something.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
The Red Sox figured out what a good deal that was and followed suit with NESN (New England Sports Network). Same with Manchester United (who have their own pay-per-view channel in England).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that sucks
I hope that dont happen I dont mind paying players that pan out for you but rookies its just to much money for nothing.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 2:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ya but
But the yankees just slipped got old and now all they did was just spend spend spend they have the top players and they set their own bar . If that happend in the nfl it would ruin it we just need to change the rookie pay roll it should be like a two year type deal where the player get a rookie salary and if the team decideds to keep him they have to shell out the big dough most guys are busts in the nfl no reason to pay a guy if he dont pan out after two years
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 2:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees Didn't Just Slip
They collapsed. They haven’t won a World Series in this century. They haven’t even been to a World Series in five years. And they’ve had the highest payroll every season. And the reasons for that were their tendency to overpay guys based on past performance rather than future results, questionable player evaluation and their neglect of their farm system. Success is all about management, not just throwing around money, and Brian Cashman has wrecked that team because for the last eight years he’s been a pretty terrible GM. Granted, Steinbrenner hasn’t helped much (because he abandoned the largely hands-off approach he had in the ‘90s) but things like signing Jason Giambi and not breaking up his core of talent (or finding replacements) while they aged hasn’t helped either.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And When I Say "Steinbrenner"
I extend that to his family as well…since George isn’t really involved any more.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Truuueee
But he has the money to throw around and recover small markets dont if you spend like crazy your toast and if you take a chance on a guy and he doest pan out your toast. For example anahiem angels get mo vaughn give him the keys to the city he breaks his ankle first game done along with the franchise for years .
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But It Hasn't Won Him A World Series
And the Oakland Athletics constantly have one of the lowest payrolls in the league, but they’ve had several playoff teams in the last 15 years. That’s because successful small-market teams make the most of the resources they have, whereas the Yankees often use the resources they have to cover for their own incompetence. And Anaheim wasn’t a small-market team…just a terribly run one because they have a large market and population base to draw from.
Using the Royals as an example, I often heard people moan because the Royals were small-market (which they are) and therefore couldn’t compete. But that’s a load of crap…the Royals have had plenty of opportunities to field good teams. They just had the misfortune, since John Scheurholz left and Ewing Kaufmann died, of being run by an incompetent GM in Herk Robinson, one of the worst GMs in the history of professional baseball in Allard Baird (although Dan Glass’ interference didn’t help him), and they’re owned by one of the worst owners in the history of MLB in David Glass (who, by the way, got the team on a lowball offer because he was a flunkie of Selig’s over a much more deserving candidate in Miles Prentice). You could have given the Royals $200 million per year to buy players and they still would have found a way to fuck it up because they had incompetent people running the franchise and because David Glass has never been interested in fielding a winning team…he only hired Dayton Moore and gave him control because he couldn’t run a profitable franchise anymore without a good GM.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
being competitive is fine
But the yankees like i said can always afford to take a chance there is a reason why the A’s cant keep nobody they had the best pitchers in baseball a couple years ago but couldent hold on to them. Even when you look at texiera he looked at the big picture when he signed with the yankees. He knew A. im going to make a boat load of money and he knew they are going to put the tools around him to be a champ . Now i hate the yankees more than anyone but there was just no way that the nationals a small market team could afford him and there is no way they could build around him . Ultimate goal is to be a champ not a bust every year . This system in my opinion would kill football and think most baseball players play for years football players play for 2 games if you dont get killed this system would ruin football in my opinion.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll Bet The Yankees Don't Win A World Series With Sabathia And Teixeira
Baseball hitters generally have their best season at age 27 and Teixeira will be 29 next year (when the decline usually starts in). Sabathia’s a good candidate for an injury next year after pitching a career high in innings (253) and considering his age and questionable conditioning is also a candidate for a decline.
The Yanks have been throwing big bucks around with little to show for it for a decade now. Their biggest success in the free agency era actually came from when they built up their farm system and got their core players from that while supplementing with good role players at solid value (Paul O’Neill, Luis Polonia, Luis Sojo).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree
Farm system was there best years for sure with out a doubt they had talent even the angels are losing their farm system as we speak . And I do believe that chemistry is everything not high priced free agents. At the same time you just want to give everyone a fair chance . I just pray the nfl doesnt do what mlb does and let this happen I would hate to root for a team that has no chance of getting some of the top free agents I think the system in the nfl is fine besides the rookies making to much money thats my only thing i dont mind giving the top free agents there pay they earned it .
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Buy "Chemistry"
It’s more a result of what happens on the field than a cause of it. The Oakland A’s of the ’70s used to get into fistfights with each other in the locker room but they still won tons of games.
But with a healthy farm system you do tend to get better value for your dollar and don’t overpay as much based on a player’s name rather than what he’s likely to produce for you over the life of his contract.
pray the nfl doesnt do what mlb does and let this happen I would hate to root for a team that has no chance of getting some of the top free agents
You know, for several years in the early ‘90s the NFL had real free agency with no salary cap…and the Green Bay Packers (one of the smallest market teams) were able to use it to get Reggie White, one of the best free agent signings ever. There’s more to being a mover and shaker in free agency than having the most money to spend…it’s about being able to identify the players that best fit your team and to sell that player on the idea that your team is the best fit for him. After all, there are still only going to be 22 starting spots on every football team and players are still going to want to go where they have the best chance of starting (and succeeding).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
reggie
First off reggie was given away the eagles gave him away he was just a good enough player to produce on a team that had good system they had a run game and brett was brett . Reggie was awsome dont get me wrong but he was given away by the eagles
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He Wasn't Given Away
He was a free agent, he didn’t want to re-sign with the Eagles and he went to Green Bay. And my point was that just because a team is “small-market” doesn’t mean they can’t attract the best free agents or be successful even if there is free agency.
In fact, free agency is one of the best things to happen in sports. Pre-free agency the New York teams dominated the World Series in baseball. Afterwards anyone could win it if the team had competent management because teams had more options for building their clubs. It’s a myth that free agency kills parity in sports, because it doesn’t…baseball proves that every year.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
free agency
My point is everyone needs a fair chance in baseball no one has a free chance to get who they want its impossible to try to offer money you dont have. Football everyone has a chance i agree i like free agency i dont mind paying players for what they are worth . Im just not a fan of paying rookies millions before they even know how to get out of the locker room tunnel to the field.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone Has A Shot To Win In Baseball
Teams can improve by buying players or developing players or trading for players or any number of things. What you’re complaining about is that some teams have advantages over other teams which is just the way it is in life.
And by the way, “that’s not fair” is probably the most ridiculous complaint ever raised…especially about sports. A “fair” world is one in which you lose at least half the time. A “fair” world in football is one in which everyone goes 8-8 and everyone gets to share the championship. Fuck “fair”…who the hell wants to live in a fair world? I want to live in an unfair world tilted to my advantage where the Chiefs win every Super Bowl and decimate our opponents (especially the Raiders).
So what if someone’s got more resources or advantages? All that means is you have to be smarter than them with how you spend your resources or advantages. And if you aren’t, or if you try to rationalize failure by saying that you don’t have a chance because life’s not “fair” then you don’t deserve to win anyway. That’s what competition is about.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
keep it real
here is one for you the boston red sox could never ever beat the yankees for the longest time . They only beat them till recent years until they got big money in their front office then they could actually match who they were playing they made the playing field even . and thats great and dandy and its true at the end of the day you just have to play and win of course . But for teams who keep getting richer and richer its like you lose passion in the sport . Right now ill tell you what place the royals will finish this coming year ill tell you where seattle will finish this year cuz their destiny is pretty much drawn out they dont have the resources . And yes d rays showed you dont need the most money but what they did happens once in 60 something years . All im saying is you have to help everyone out its just better for the sport.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
The Red Sox started beating the Yankees because they realized the value of a healthy farm system and the importance of acquiring and developing good pitching instead of just sluggers. They were huge spenders before then too…they just spent their money foolishly. In fact, even before free agency owner Tom Yawkey spent money lavishly on overrated players (although rarely good pitching) which is why they kept losing.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And if you can tell me
Name me a couple of blockbuster players in their prime that have gone to the . Blue jays the royals the nationals the rangers the mariners give me some names thats all I want to know.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Let's See
Blue Jays: Jack Morris, Dave Stewart, Paul Molitor, (they also traded for Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter and won two World Series)
Rangers: Built mainly through farm system, but they did sign Nolan Ryan, Chan Ho Park, Kevin Millwood and Alex Rodriguez (for the biggest contract in baseball history).
Royals: Wally Joyner, Greg Gagne, David Cone
The Nationals have only been around for four years so it’s ridiculous to claim that “No one ever signed with them” as an indictment of free agency, but as the Expos the primary reason they didn’t sign free agents was because Claude Brochu didn’t want to sign free agents (because he hated spending any money). They built competitive teams in the 1990s through free agency and trade and had the best record in baseball in 1994 until the strike ended the season.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no way
The players that you are naming are so old im talking now right now with in the last 5 years hahaah those contracts were nothing back then.I want to know what free agent is calling scott boris up right now asking for a one way ticket to kansas city right now or the blue jays scott boris would punch you in the face if you said that.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're Old Now
Paul Molitor won a batting title with Toronto. Dave Stewart won World Series MVP. Jack Morris won 21 games for them. Rodriguez was 25 when he signed the free agent deal with the Rangers.
Know what the fuck you’re talking about before you decide to sound off.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what???
I know who they are Im just saying right now on espn no one is begging to go to those teams its the rich getting richer you have to agree.come on
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Not About The Small Market
It’s about the management of those teams. Wally Joyner was still an excellent player when he came here, so was David Cone…the reason players don’t come to KC now is because David Glass (a billionaire owner, by the way) has historically never wanted to spend money and because when he has spent money he generally had incompetents (Dan Glass, Herk Robinson, Allard Baird) choose the players he spent it on.
Free agents didn’t want to come here until Dayton Moore showed up because it was a badly mismanaged baseball team owned by a cheap, miserable weasel who was more interested in pocketing the money he got from the Yankees’ luxury tax payout than in putting a good product on the field. Glass was such a fucking miser he told Baird with the draft only to draft players after the 7th round that he could sign for the league minimum of $1000, which is why our farm system tanked. Glass had the money to spend…he just didn’t want to spend it because he (personally) was making money by having a bad baseball team with a minimal payroll. Same deal with the Expos, who got luxury payouts every year and put the money directly into the owner’s pocket (Steinbrenner went apeshit one year because he was so pissed that Brochu refused to even pretend that he cared about making his team better).
As for the Rangers, they’re not a small market team…they still hold the record for the biggest free agent contract in MLB history (Rodriguez). The Mariners actually had one of the richest rosters (talent-wise) in MLB for the last 20 years, but Woody Woodard was a terrible GM and kept trading it away for nickels and dimes on the dollar…not because of budget issues but because he couldn’t judge talent. That’s why Griffey and Rodriguez got out.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teams Don't Need To Spend Huge Bucks To Be Competitive
The Oakland Athletics teams of the early decade proved that by going to the playoffs repeatedly with the lowest payroll in baseball. So did the Minnesota Twins, who won two World Series in the free agency era. So did the Florida Marlins who’ve also won two (while having the worst revenue stream).
It’s all about the management, not the resources.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As For It Being "Years Ago"
Free agency then was the same as it is now. All of those guys were within the last 20 years. A-Rod’s mega-contract was only 8 years ago. And the markets for those teams was the same then as it is now…there is no difference between them.
Only thing that changed for the Royals was we got one of the worst owners in professional sports.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dorsey
The money that dorsey is getting should be actually paying flowers and albert . They worked out the most for us they should be the ones being payed
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
a rod
Ya and rangers have never recovered since they spent big like i said a few comments before and now they are toast . the yankees can afford 5 a rod contracts royals cant do that they would be done for ever like the rangers you made my point.
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They Recovered Fine
They just have the same problem they always did…a crappy farm system that doesn’t deliver good pitching.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And The Yankees Can't Afford Five A-Rod Contracts
The only reason they could afford to trade for him was because of the way the deal was structured…the Yankees and Rangers ended up splitting the salary.
As for his new contract…how many World Series has the addition of A-Rod won them?
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 9, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You win
Hey I guess your right but I can tell you what the royals and all your small market teams will be doing in october they will be trick or treating at home with their kids cuz there not in the playoffs . In my opinion im tired of seeing the same teams every year and the way its going these contracts are taking more teams out of bringing good players to their town .
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Royals Are In That Boat
Because they put themselves in that boat. Like Dayton Moore’s offseason moves this year, for example…I think the Royals are actually going to regress this season because they’re struggling for offense because their players can’t get on base and yet he traded for Mike Jacobs, a guy who posted a sub-.300 on-base percentage (which is pathetic) and the Royals will probably give him 400+ at-bats this year. Or when they gave Jose Guillen, a career underachiever for OBP, a multi-year deal. That’s typical of the Royals for the last 20 years…when they identify a problem, they always seem to do something to make that problem worse instead of better. That’s why they sit home in October while other “small-market” teams like Oakland, Minnesota, and Milwaukee (who actually have a smaller market than KC) have gone to the playoffs.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 10, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor And Stupid
Is a guaranteed way to keep your team out of the playoffs…and the Royals have been that way for almost 20 years. Frankly, I think they’re probably going to stay that way until David Glass is gone.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 10, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much same teams
American League Division Series recaps
Year Results (best of 5)
2008 T.B. 3, Chicago 1 || Boston 3, Los Angeles 1
2007 Cleveland 3, NY 1 || Boston 3, Los Angeles 0
2006 Oakland 3, Minnesota 0 || Detroit 3, New York 1
2005 Anaheim 3, New York 2 || Chicago 3, Boston 0
2004 New York 3, Minnesota 1 || Boston 3, Anaheim 0
2003 New York 3, Minnesota 1 || Boston 3, Oakland 2
2002 Anaheim 3, New York 1 || Minnesota 3, Oakland 2
2001 New York 3, Oakland 2 || Seattle 3, Cleveland
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
11 Teams In The A.L. Have Made It To The Playoffs In The Last Eight Seasons
Out of 14…you don’t get much more equal than that. Out of the remaining teams neither Baltimore nor Texas is a small-market team…Baltimore is run by an incompetent owner in Peter Angelos and Tom Hicks blows boatloads of cash on free agents while neglecting the farm system. KC is the only small-market team that’s excluded and that’s mainly because David Glass is the worst owner in baseball not because they lack the ability to succeed (as other small-market teams with worse cash-flow problems have made the playoffs).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 10, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty much the same to me
National League Division Series recaps
Year Results (best of 5)
2008 Phila. 3, Milwaukee 1 || Los Angeles 3, Chicago 0
2007 Arizona 3, Chicago 0 || Colorado 3, Philadelphia 0
2006 St. Louis 3, San Diego 1 || New York 3, LA 0
2005 St. Louis 3, San Diego 0 || Houston 3, Atlanta 1
2004 St. Louis 3, Los Angeles 1 || Houston 3, Atlanta 2
2003 Florida 3, San Francisco 1 || Chicago 3, Atlanta 2
2002 San Francisco 3, Atlanta 2 || St. Louis 3, Arizona 0
2001 Arizona 3, St. Louis 2 || Atlanta 3, Houston 0
by sexassassin on Jan 9, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's 13 Teams In The NL That Have Made The Playoffs In The Last Eight Seasons
Out of 16. That’s parity. And Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Washington have generally had the worst ownership situations…none of them are small markets.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 10, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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