Where the Chiefs Stand with Scott Pioli
by Chris Thorman on Jan 8, 2009 7:11 AM CST
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If we shook a Magic 8 Ball and asked if Scott Pioli was coming to Kansas City, it would say "All signs point to yes."
As any NFL fan will tell you though, that really doesn't mean anything. Scott Pioli is a secretive man when it comes to his professional life and quite frankly, we don't know any of the details of the discussions with him and Clark Hunt.
Here is what we do know:
- Pioli met with Clark Hunt on Monday to discuss the open GM position
- The Chiefs are the only "official" opportunity for Pioli now, although I suspect another NFL team would jump at the chance for Pioli if the Chiefs' somehow botched the deal
- Scott Pioli will almost assuredly not be the Browns' GM because of their recent hire of head coach Eric Mangini
That's really it as far as "hard" information.
We have a report from 610 Sports radio that Pioli was made an offer by Clark Hunt and that the details were merely being worked out. I'd like to believe it, and I don't think it's a completely false rumor, but talk radio is about as far down the ladder of reliable sports information as you can get. I hope the offer is true though.
Right now, we wait. And we may be waiting for awhile. At the same time, news of Pioli's hire could come as quickly as today or tomorrow. Nobody really knows.
We'll be going about the off season business as usual and covering GM news of course. I don't want people to think the signing is imminent when we have no information about that. We'd have a bunch of you in the hospital for exhaustion if Pioli signs in a week or two instead of right now.
Wait, read and be happy that the Chiefs are pursuing the best possible GM candidate. We waited 20 years between GM regimes in Kansas City. We can wait a bit longer this January.
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Pioli has become the great white hype in this town
I can understand the level of excitement for the guy to a degree. At the same time though, do we know he’s the best candidate available? A key member of the Pat’s success for sure, but certainly not THE key. I’d love to look at other guys. I’m not in a rush. I want to see Kevin Colbert and Eric DeCosta, maybe even Jimmy Raye Jr.
I’m not saying Pioli isn’t the best option. Maybe he is, I don’t know. All we can do is look at track records. I just find it kind of weird how stiff a lot of people are getting over a name. I want to know who it’ll be too, but it’ll happen, no need to get crazy for something to happen in the coming hours.
by RedNose on Jan 8, 2009 7:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm a cynic by nature
And I think Pioli is far and away the best option. He’s been a top executive for years now.
“no need to get crazy for something to happen in the coming hours”
Exactly. We don’t know when this thing is going down.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 8, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If for no other reason
than to deflect some of this speculation. It’s possible that we will have to wait on any announcements until after the SB just so they can say they were completely thorough and left no stone unturned.
It seems like they like watching us freak out about this stuff so they find new and exciting ways to torture us with it.
by Buck'O on Jan 8, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So they play us like puppets?
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Jan 8, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
it’s funny.
Some people sprout gray hairs. Some people explode. Some people make weird squealing noises out of excitement…….
If you were worth billions and owned a major sports franchise, wouldn’t you like to yank the chain of you fan base once in awhile. It provides an endless stream of shit talking that’s at the very least worth a few laughs.
by Buck'O on Jan 8, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one can see the future
but on paper, Pioli is the best GM candidate this year, and one of the best candidates in the past decade or so. The Patriots are a dynasty, and he has been right there with Bellichick in putting that team together.
Teams have fawned over him for years; hell, Seattle offered him $15M before even interviewing him, and he turned it down. The fact that he could come here would be amazing, and really a dream come true for this franchise.
by deezle on Jan 8, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli Prize
He definitely benefits from the Patriots glow of success —even though that glow hasn’t exactly followed others out the door. I would like to see KC get him but I am sure there are at least a half dozens others who could do as good or better a job. I wouldn’t mind seeing them add Chris Polian to the list. I know last week (prior to the game) he said he wasn’t going to discuss it. Which is not a “no, I’m not interested”. And I love how the Steelers do business. And wounding the Charges has an appeal.
by FrankPitts on Jan 8, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile in the Batcave...
I’m growing at least three new gray hairs per hour!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Jan 8, 2009 8:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
is it news to anyone
that Pioli and Hunt met in Dallas? Anyone find that significant?
by ChiefsDude on Jan 8, 2009 8:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nah
The next day, following Carl’s press conference, Hunt and Thum apparently went to meet Pioli out east.
Hunt lives in Dallas. It’s his home. I’m sure that’s it.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 8, 2009 8:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
It can’t be a bad sign that Pioli would go to Hunts house to talk! lol
by ChiefsDude on Jan 8, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he had the best steaks!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Jan 8, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Metro Sports
A poster on another board is saying Metro Sports has reported it is a done deal. Anyone else hear the same?
by deezle on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the silly season
I’m surprised that there are no reports as yet that Bear Bryant and Vince Lombardi have been seen drinking scotch at Starkers before getting into a limo to Arrowhead
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
by sm7600 on Jan 8, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
you saw that too?
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Jan 8, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We Can't Wait forever
And I’m not talking about the physical exhaustion of all this edge-of-seat sitting. I’m talking about the fact that the new GM has a lot of work to do. They aren’t going to be concerned with the draft alone, they will have to make big decisions on our coaching staff. I think they will get rid of Herm, Gunther, and nearly every D assistant save the secondary coach. They then have to hire all new coaches and decide what players we have fit those coaches schemes and who in the draft would be good fits to bring on board, as well as try to restructure/trade veteran players’ contracts (I’m looking at you LJ) and sign some significant free agents (Peppers or Suggs). That’s a lot to do before the draft begins, and won’t get done in one month.
by Chiefs4Life on Jan 8, 2009 10:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
chiefs 4 life
Totally agree the senior bowl is coming up we need a staff out there as soon as possible to evaluate these players in the up coming draft. Also getting peppers or suggs would be huge and give us a lot more clear cut on the direction the team is going in the draft but I agree we need to get a gm fast.
by sexassassin on Jan 8, 2009 11:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What about Hank Stram?
well on second thought maybe not, he wears a toupee.
by oldchiefsfan on Jan 8, 2009 11:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The bigger the ego the better
whomever our next gm is i hope he has a fondess for the plaza and leather jackets.
by wjp1982 on Jan 8, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
Arrogance and Abrasiveness…no better qualities in a GM.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 8, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know much about Pioli
but he strikes me as a little like Tom Cruise’s character in Tropic Thunder.
Anyone?
by TheQ on Jan 8, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fry ... Fry..
I just want to see the dance. It kills me.
by TheQ on Jan 8, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Pioli gets up and does that dance
then we know we got our guy. Takes balls to dance like that.
by TheQ on Jan 8, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli's Brain
While it would be great to get the GM locked up sonner rather than later, the most valuable thing Pioli would bring to KC is his brain. He will not be starting from scratch in his off season aquisitions and draft preperation, that’s all he has been doing the past nine months. He would walk in the door like a pre-loaded Ipod with every piece of data New England was planing on using this off season!
Not to mention he would give us an inside track on several top notch positions coaches that would have NEVER even interviewd with Peterson.
by dswhited on Jan 8, 2009 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs
aren’t built like New England, so knowing what they were going to do this offseason isn’t any sort of consellation prize. Maybe if we were going to be in their division, or playing them and able to be a “spoiler” of sorts… then maybe. But at this point, what they are going to do is basically rrelevant. The Chiefs need their own plan of action. Hopefully a GM gets hired and gets to work sooner rather than later.
"In the NFL, coaching has to make a difference when the games are close. The talent level across the league from team to team is too similar. Great head coaches do their best work in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line. Instead, we’ve seen Herm blow timeouts, put the game in the hands of the league’s worst defense, and most recently, run Larry Johnson behind Wade Smith and Adrian Jones as if they were Tim Grunhard and Will Shields in their prime.
Dr. Frankenstein is gone, but his monster is still roaming the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium." -C.E. Wendler, Warpaint Illustrated
by IISaiNtII on Jan 8, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering we posted these within seconds of eachother
And said essentially the same thing, you are obviously a brilliant man, Saint.
Another thing I forgot to mention is the personnel that NE would require defensively is entirely different from what we would. They run a 3-4, we run a 4-3 (and I sincerely hope that Pioli recognizes our personnel groupings are only going to be fit for success in a 4-3 for years to come). So unless there is overlap on offense (which I don’t see NE needing so much O-Line talent, or WR, or QBs… maybe the only overlap is RB), then Pioli wil have to start fresh in picking what we need. Additionally, he is gonna want to have a HC in place and find out what he needs for success. I hope that if an offer is on the table, Pioli already has a HC in mind that he’s talking to and figuring out our needs. Given the success of his present organization, I am willing to bet that he is as proactive as they come.
by Sudden on Jan 8, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
Pioli seems like a smart enough man to focus like a laser beam. And that means whatever scouting he has done to prepare for NE’s offseason was to address NE’s needs. There may be some overlap there, but certainly not enough as our needs are far more deep and glaring. So we need him in here sooner rather than later.
The one thing that can absolutely ruin our chances of building a successful foundation going into next year is not grabbing a GM before the SuperBowl. FA begins Feb. 1, same day as the Super Bowl. We got burned last year because a few guys that we might’ve wanted to look at signed contracts that day (Faine). As much as I like the Ravens more than any of the teams remaining in the AFC, I want to see them out this weekend so that we can interview DeCosta. We need our GM in place ASAP and we have a rare opportunity to grab the #1 executive available. PAY THE MAN CLARK.
by Sudden on Jan 8, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Personally I think the ship sinks another degree each day we stay as is.The one good thing about any prep Pioli has done is he has seen who is out there and what their talent levels are. If and when he were to come in here he could quickly assess our needs and go from there. But keep in mind, he knows some of what we have because we played NE this year.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Jan 8, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
810 WHB
…unless I mis heard just reported that Mark Dominic has rec’d a call from the Chiefs informing him that he will NOT be the Chiefs GM. Could this mean that a decision has been reached?
by jbj8609 on Jan 9, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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