Sam Bradford Reportedly Going Pro
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 11:59 AM CST
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Looks like it'll be a stacked QB draft class this year, as Oklahoma's Sam Bradford will reportedly be exiting school two years early and entering the 2009 NFL draft, according to the National Football Post.
Sources close to the National Football Post have told us that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, barring an injury in Thursday night’s BCS National Championship game against Florida, will declare for the NFL Draft. The 6-foot-4, 218-pound sophomore and Heisman Trophy winner threw for 4,464 yards and 48 touchdowns with only 6 interceptions in leading the Sooners to the Big 12 championship and a 12-1 record.
I think it's safe to say that Bradford will be getting serious consideration for the top pick in the draft, given his outstanding college numbers, pro size, and the success of his Oklahoma teams. Detroit's been making due with Daunte Culpepper and Dan Orlovsky at QB this year, and it's going to be tough for them to pass up on having a Sam Bradford-Calvin Johnson combination for the next five years...combine them with solid rookie back Kevin Smith, and the possible addition of a solid young offensive lineman with the 20th pick in this year's draft (obtained through the Roy Williams trade) and in the course of one offseason Detroit's 30th ranked offense could go from terrible to incredibly potent.
Man, I hope they take Matt Stafford instead.
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I figured Stafford would go
He’s been projected to do so since the start of the season. However, Bradford was a little more iffy in my opinion. This is good news.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 7, 2009 11:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
And If You Look At The List Of QBs In The 2009 Draft
Bradford is just the tip of a very big iceberg. Seriously, there are a lot of promising QB prospects who’ll be available outside of the first round as well…Harrell, Harper, Davis, Tuitama. Painter might surprise someone on the second day. Even Ganz, Freeman, and Daniel are going to pique some interest. They won’t all make it, of course, but I could see three or four really good starting QBs coming out of this draft.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Painter
Started 4 years, right? That’s important to me which is one of the few reasons Bradford makes me nervous.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 7, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's Only Been Able To Start For Two
But he’s been spectacular in both. Doesn’t worry me as much as a guy who had one great season out of three (Stafford) would.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Talking About Bradford With That Last One, Not Painter
Painter started all four years…his numbers weren’t so great, though, which may be attributable to the coaching staff (coach Joe Tiller got run out). Painter could end up being a value pick, though…and Purdue does seem to have a history of turning out great QBs, the most recent example being Drew Brees (who also played for Tiller).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they don't
I’d love it if Bradford went #1 and we could get Stafford at #3. I like Stafford better. Not hating on Bradford as some do, I just think Stafford projects better.
by thalove on Jan 7, 2009 11:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like Bradford but...
Out of curiosity, how many players have been successful in the league coming out that early? NOt just QB, but any position.
Indecision is the key to flexibility
by cmpotter on Jan 7, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think
Like half of last year’s class was underclassmen.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 7, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he means
As a redshirt sophomore. He has just two years of playing experience.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 7, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Probably most of those guys had just 2 years experience…not a lot of guys play their freshman year. Some, but not a lot.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 7, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh...
I was hoping this wouldn’t happen, but if OU wins the national championship game, his stock isn’t going any higher.
Honestly, I don’t want Bradford. He could turn out to be great, and I may take back the whole not being able to stand him stuff… I think it’s the fact that he has the acne of a 16 year old at 21/22.
"In the NFL, coaching has to make a difference when the games are close. The talent level across the league from team to team is too similar. Great head coaches do their best work in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line. Instead, we’ve seen Herm blow timeouts, put the game in the hands of the league’s worst defense, and most recently, run Larry Johnson behind Wade Smith and Adrian Jones as if they were Tim Grunhard and Will Shields in their prime.
Dr. Frankenstein is gone, but his monster is still roaming the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium." -C.E. Wendler, Warpaint Illustrated
by IISaiNtII on Jan 7, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Even If They Don't
A guy with his stats, size and success is going to be a candidate for the top pick. He’s as good a franchise QB prospect as you’re going to find in an NFL draft.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
I just don’t like him. And if he gets drafted by KC, and busts, I’ll REALLY not like him!! :-)
"In the NFL, coaching has to make a difference when the games are close. The talent level across the league from team to team is too similar. Great head coaches do their best work in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line. Instead, we’ve seen Herm blow timeouts, put the game in the hands of the league’s worst defense, and most recently, run Larry Johnson behind Wade Smith and Adrian Jones as if they were Tim Grunhard and Will Shields in their prime.
Dr. Frankenstein is gone, but his monster is still roaming the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium." -C.E. Wendler, Warpaint Illustrated
by IISaiNtII on Jan 7, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I, personally, love the kid.
I think he is class-act all the way, and has all of the physical tools that would lead one to believe someone would be successful as an NFL QB.
The only thing that concerns me is his incredibly amazing offensive line; I probably could have thrown for a couple thousand yards in that system. But other than that, it’s all gold, man.
by rockchalk on Jan 7, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want...
but would rather have Sammy than Stafford.
Proud to be a part of the Conference of Champions and their complete bowl season domination.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 7, 2009 12:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
God i dont want stafford!
please dont draft him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by GoShooterGo on Jan 7, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Question:
At one point there was a campaign to get an MLB from some small school. What was that kid’s name and how did his season go? If it went well, do you think we could hold off on MLB until the 4th round to get that kid?
by Chiefs4Life on Jan 7, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Holtzclaw was his name,
Lanier63 was his trumpeter.
"In the NFL, coaching has to make a difference when the games are close. The talent level across the league from team to team is too similar. Great head coaches do their best work in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line. Instead, we’ve seen Herm blow timeouts, put the game in the hands of the league’s worst defense, and most recently, run Larry Johnson behind Wade Smith and Adrian Jones as if they were Tim Grunhard and Will Shields in their prime.
Dr. Frankenstein is gone, but his monster is still roaming the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium." -C.E. Wendler, Warpaint Illustrated
by IISaiNtII on Jan 7, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He looks to be a rookie free agent.
Proud to be a part of the Conference of Champions and their complete bowl season domination.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 7, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The way I figure it
the new GM (and head coach?) will likely parade in a new 1st round QB as a visual symbol that they are starting anew in KC. That destroys us taking an MLB or DE with our #3 pick if Bradford declares, since Detroit will take one QB (Bradford/Stafford) and we’ll take the other. This means we will likely spend huge bucks in FA for Suggs or Peppers in hopes of solving our pass-rush whoas for a year or two. Our second and third rounders will likely address the offensive line (even though our D is abysmal), leaving us searching the dregs for a dark-horse MLB or OLB (probably both). And in this scenario we still don’t address our need at RB since LJ is worthless, Kolby shows no real potential, and Charles is a situational back. Alternatively, we spend our 2nd rounder on an RB (again, to make the point that it’s a new team) and look OL in rounds 3 and 4, thus pushing our needs on D even further back. We need some small school wonder (Holtzclaw?) to be a contender at MLB.
by Chiefs4Life on Jan 7, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This contradicts absolutley everything I have heard
from sources pretty close to Sam.
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
by Jon Woods on Jan 7, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We'll See
National Football Post has broken some pretty good stories. And honestly his draft stock really can’t get much higher.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to ask about that
Im not familiar with this site. Are they pretty credible?
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
by Jon Woods on Jan 7, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
"In the NFL, coaching has to make a difference when the games are close. The talent level across the league from team to team is too similar. Great head coaches do their best work in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line. Instead, we’ve seen Herm blow timeouts, put the game in the hands of the league’s worst defense, and most recently, run Larry Johnson behind Wade Smith and Adrian Jones as if they were Tim Grunhard and Will Shields in their prime.
Dr. Frankenstein is gone, but his monster is still roaming the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium." -C.E. Wendler, Warpaint Illustrated
by IISaiNtII on Jan 7, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're Pretty Good
They’ve got a former NFL executive (a recent one), Mike Lombardi, writing for them…he’s got a lot of contacts.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
by Jon Woods on Jan 7, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is great news,
if for no other reason that having both these top QB prospects come out increases our value at the number 3 pick to a trade partner. Detroit will take one, but St. Louis will be looking OT, so at least of these guys will still be around and we might get a good trade offer.
by KCScuba on Jan 7, 2009 1:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WE NEED A GM
FIRST THINGS FIRST WE NEED A GOOD GM WHO WILL EVALUATE THIS GUY IM NOT TOTALLY SOLD ON ANY OF THE QBS AT ALL . BUT THIS GM WILL DECIDE A LOT OF THINGS . FIRST HE WILL SEE IF HERMAN EDWARDS IS THE GUY IF SO, THEN IF BRADFORD IS AVAILABLE WE GET HIM WHY NOT WE RUN A COLLEGE OFFENSE ANYWAY . IF EDWARDS IS IN OR OUT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THE FREE AGENT MARKET AND GET A PASS RUSHER OR LINE BACKER TRY TO GET SOME DRAFT PICKS FOR LARRY AND START PLUGGING HOLES BUT IT ALL STARTS WITH THIS GM .
by sexassassin on Jan 7, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
YELLING (Meaning Writing In All Caps)
Not a good idea…it distracts from your point and tends to undermine your credibility. Comes off as a bit rude as well.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Do Agree With Your Point About The GM
That’s going to have to get addressed before all else.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is good news to me UC
I am really hoping that he falls to #3. I know we could benefit from so many positions in the draft, but it surprises me that more people aren’t at least interested in a shot at a franchise guy, who I think Bradford could be. He may not be able to come in and wow initially, but I think if he had a year or so in the NFL, he could be great. I just don’t think we should be afraid of failure with that pick. You have to gamble to really see success, and a future Pro Bowl QB is worth the gamble.
by TheQ on Jan 7, 2009 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what about
prob. a real cheap price and could Really excel in a spread offense. Mike Vick, I know it sounds dumb but just a thought.
by DT58forever on Jan 7, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Any team going after vick will deal with a PR nightmare
plain and simple.
by wjp1982 on Jan 7, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vick's more suited for the Brigade.
Proud to be a part of the Conference of Champions and their complete bowl season domination.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 7, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He Was A Crap Passer Before He Went To Jail
Can’t imagine he’s gotten any better since then. Don’t want him.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
VICK
EVERYONE IS CRYING THAT LJ IS SLAPPING CRACK WHORES . THERE IS NO WAY THAT VICK COMES KC AFTER HE HAS BEEN SLAPPING BITCHES AROUND
by sexassassin on Jan 7, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW ANNOYING IT IS TO READ A POST IN ALL CAPS?
Although I not only agree, Im in favor of not bringing Vick.
He was a mediocre QB in his best games. He was never very good at reading a DEF, and he almost never went through progressions. Vick had the nasty habit of dead lock staring at the number 1 target for whatever play was called, and then tucking and running if that guy was not open. Later in is career (ha ha) when he was getting pressure to become more of a pocket passer he would just throw to that number one guy weather he was open or not.
Vick had great legs, and could really move. — Maybe some day some team will risk the PR nightmare to hire him, but it will be as a WR or a RB, or at best a QB only to be used in “wildcat” style situations.
Before any of that could happen Goodell would have to reinstate him to play in the NFL again, and I would not expect that to happen until he serves at least a 1 year suspension post jailtime.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Jan 7, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford looks as close to a franchise quarterback as anyone in the past 5 years.
by SayHeyWerd on Jan 7, 2009 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bradford
Right now I don’t want a QB with our first pick. But if we did take a QB with the first pick I don’t see anything wrong with taking Bradford. He looks like a pro. He has had a solid two seasons. And he is smart. I don’t get the same impression from Stafford. I don’t think Bradford will be on the board but if he is I don’t see how we can pass him by.
by Big Wit on Jan 7, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't want Bradford
and I don’t want Stafford.
Whitlock said on the DP show this morning if Bradford falls to #3 he will be the next Tim Couch. While I don’t believe this, I do believe Bradford & Stafford are more likely busts than franchise QB’s. The last thing we need is a 1st round bust to start us off in the new era
by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 7, 2009 4:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Couch
Was not a bad pro QB, contrary to national pundits’ popular beliefs. He was actually productive…unfortunately he got drafted by a franchise that used the Herm Edwards model for building an offensive line, grab whatever scrubs you can find off the scrap heap and tell your QB to just suck it up. After drafting Couch in 1999 the Browns didn’t grab an offensive lineman with a first-day pick until 2002 (Melvin Fowler, 3rd round). By the time they drafted Jeff Faine (1st round 2003), Couch’s career was pretty much over because of the injuries.
Textbook example of how to ruin a franchise QB. That’s why I’m glad that the Chiefs never drafted a good QB while Herm was here. He can’t be trusted to take care of one.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 7, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious
What makes you so certain they will both be busts? Their stats and physical attributes aren’t bad, but I don’t know that much about either. I’d be happy to hear your reasons for not liking them, specifically if they make bad decisions, often overthrow/underthrow targets, have poor work ethics, etc.
by Chiefs4Life on Jan 7, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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