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RUMOR: Chiefs Holding morning presser tomorrow

Minutes ago on 810, Petro relayed a rumor that he heard that the Chiefs were holding a press conference tomorrow morning at 10:30.

This would be in ADDITION to the already scheduled presser at 3:30 for Carl Peterson.

If this rumor is accurate, given that Pioli is in town interviewing today, this could be big news, and seems to point towards the hiring of the #1 GM candidate on the market.

Here's to hope in the new year.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Intriguing

We have been keeping this quiet. AND this would be in line with SFCBurkhart’s post about Clark making a decision Mon/Tues.

by primetime 07 on Jan 5, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It Would Make My Week If They Were Announcing A Hiring

Hopefully we’ll have a quality new GM in place by tomorrow. Then we can all look forward to speculating about who’ll be our new head coach.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frank Gansz Sr.!

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jan 5, 2009 1:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it's Pioli

…2:1 that it’ll be Ferentz. They’re buddies and it’ll be a package deal meaning Pioli will go after him if he hasn’t already discussed this with him…which is likely that he already has.
I haven’t posted much on this since I’m waiting for the GM decision. If it is Pioli, you can bank that Ferentz has one foot in the door. Cleveland is out if they’re hiring a coach without Pioli’s input…he just won’t go there unless they’re playing him by putting pressure that they’ll hire a coach to make him decide faster.
This league is all about “who you know”. We’ve had soooo many connections with Philly the past 20 years it makes my head spin. Some things never change in regards to “the boys club” and it’s always about who you know.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.

by THE_TRUTH on Jan 5, 2009 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lord I hope not

What exactly has Ferentz done to merit an NFL head coaching job. If you look at his teams record, he hasn’t done anything that puts him above anyone to be honest. Why don’t they offer it to Mangino or Pinkle for that matter. Just because he is friends with someone shouldn’t give him a job. So I guess I just want to know why everyone recently thinks he is going to be our next head coach if Pioli comes here.

I hope that we get Pioli but only if he makes the right hire at HC. When was the last coach to jump from College to Pro successful. Jimmy Johnson a long ass time ago.

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Jan 5, 2009 6:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jimmy Johnson

And his success was more because he snookered Minnesota so badly that they traded 150 years of 1st round draft picks for Herschel Walker. The Chiefs ain’t got much to trade. A great but aging TE and a broken down, angry RB.

I AM intangible!

by kabrink on Jan 5, 2009 8:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

But he still had to utilize those picks. I am just saying that a college coach isn’t the way to go.

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Jan 5, 2009 8:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cm...like I said

It’s not about who “we” want, it’s about “who knows who”. It’s always been that way in the NFL. It’s a business and even if you include all the ehad coaches in college football, it’s a small world. Look at Peterson….who would’ve thought he’d get another gig or even be on anyones sideline…but he’s in Miami.
Everybody knows everybody in this league and through the years people build a relationship with people in the pro and college ranks. It’s just how it is. They’re (Ferentz/Pioli) are close and they have personalities that match…that’s one of the main things they look at.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.

by THE_TRUTH on Jan 5, 2009 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think that would go over well

We have endured that type of BS and it hasn’t worked. I know it’s not who you know it’s who you blow and all that, but we need a legit coach. I am sure Clark has some coaches he would like to see in here and during the interview process that will be a question of who the GM has on their list.

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Jan 5, 2009 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone on here posted a similar rumor

Something about the Chiefs rented a bunch of AV equipment or something.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Jan 5, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Testing...Testing...

One…Two…One…Two…Is this on?

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 5, 2009 2:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Caveat

Beware the rumors of a “big” press conference. I seem to recall the Chiefs having one this offseason only to find out it was Herm blathering on about some meaningless OTA crap that nobody cared about that (or should have).

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 1:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weird

You’d think some guy calling in to talk radio would be a reliable source, yes I am talking about my brother in law.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Jan 5, 2009 2:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Herm

steps down gracefully?

by ChiefsDude on Jan 5, 2009 2:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA

I seriously doubt it.

But maybe…we’ll find out tomorrow.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 2:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pioli and McDaniels

There are also stories out there that Pioli would bring OC McDaniels with him if hired as GM.

by ksjhwk on Jan 5, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RUMOR

I’m trying not to get my hopes up, I posted this, and even I know this is still in the rumor stages…if there is something more to this, it’ll pop up quickly with the MSM.

I want to comment on Ferentz quickly, as someone very familiar with Iowa football, people evaluating Ferentz need to do so without ONLY looking at W-L’s. Ferentz kept a team that was consistantly less-talented than its Big 10 opponents competitve. If his worst characteristic as a college coach was his recruiting, than that should bode well on his transition to the NFL.

He certainly runs his team similar to how Vermeil ran his, allowing his assistants to coach and all of them answering to him.

Some Iowa fans have been dissappointed in him at times, but that comes from them thinking that the program should be on the Ohio St. level every year, as opposed to a top half of the Big 10 team, which they consistently have been.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great view of Ferentz

Couldn’t agree more with the analysis of Ferentz in that Iowa is essentially purgatory for college football, Iowa in the Big ten and Iowa State in the Big 12. Iowa is on the far western edge of the Big Ten which makes it extremely difficult to recruit the talent rich Ohio Valley area. The fact Ferentz kept Iowa in the top half of the Big Ten speaks volumes for his coaching, and if recruiting is his only flaw then I feel comfortable with him as a head coach. A head coach in the NFL is a big picture guy and keeps the details to his assistants.

by wjp1982 on Jan 5, 2009 1:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ferentz

I’m leary of a college head coach coming to the NFL. The success rate of these coaches is VERY low. Yes there was Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, but there are more failures that successes. I’m also against a retread. Retreads historically have low success rates too. Lets bring in a young Coordinator (OC or DC) it doesn’t really matter. The only thing I am certain about is HERM MUST GO!!!!

by ksjhwk on Jan 5, 2009 1:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't Forget Bill Walsh

And Denny Green had his moments.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 1:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ferentz is not just a 'college' coach

I could put together an argument against your claim that the success rate of college to NFL coaches is ‘VERY low.’

Still, he has 5 years of expereince coaching NFL OL’s, and has been a top candidate for NFL jobs pretty much every year since he’s been at Iowa.

If Pioli comes in here and goes in another direction, like McDaniels, I’d be ok with that as well, but I don’t feel Ferentz as a strong HC candidate with Pioli does anything to diminish Pioli’s potential hiring…if anything for me, its a plus.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 1:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well where is that proof to your argument.

Spurrier, Butch Davis, Saban, and Petrino? Those are the most recent ones

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Jan 5, 2009 6:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I broke down Spurrier, Saban and Petrino below

Successful coaches that have made the transition, off the top of my head include: Vermeil, John McKay, John Robinson, Tom Coughlin (probably the most similar example to Ferentz), Barry Switzer, and of course, Jimmy Johnson. I’m sure I’m missing several.

The entire concept of an argument that states, if you’re a college HC, it makes you a bad candidate for an NFL HC, is laughable. Who’s your favorite NFL coach right now? What if Belicheck resigns, takes a couple years off, and then coaches at Holy Cross for 3 years, then decides he wants back in, would he be a bad candidate? What if he had gone from Cleveland to Notre Dame for 2 years and then wanted back in, would that make him unworthy of being an NFL HC?

Its all about the MAN, his talent, experience, work ethic and understanding. I could have told you Spurrier would be a terrible NFL HC, b/c of the MAN, not b/c he was a CFB HC.

Saban…I’m sorry, he’d win on any level of football if he stuck to it. Pop Warner or NFL, he’s one of the top 5 coaches on any level…unfortunately, he’s a bit of a mercinary, FB’s Dale Brown.

by kcsno56 on Jan 6, 2009 10:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saban

I didn’t think he was necessarily a bad NFL football coach…more that he was on a really bad team and he’s not a guy interested in sticking around for a rebuilding project in the pros. Besides, if he’d stayed much longer at Miami he would have screwed up his chance to get the Alabama job and getting a job at a college football powerhouse like Alabama is a lot tougher than getting a job in the NFL (since NFL teams fire their coaches all the time). In college a great football coach can actually have a life outside of football whereas it’s pretty much impossible in the pros. In college if you go to USC and win national championships you’re pretty much a god and can stay forever, whereas in the pros if you’re lucky you’ll last five or ten years before you’re looking for another job.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 6, 2009 10:33 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HERM MUST GO!

Look I know we need a new head coach because Herm will not take us where we need to go. So Anyone has to be better, I would even take Chan Gailey at this point. Lets get a GM in place and go from there and see what develops.

by ksjhwk on Jan 5, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At Least He Had A Winning Record

Herm didn’t.

And Brett Favre has been a coach-killer for the last decade of his career. He’s a selfish, me-first, gunslinger who’s been coasting off his rep as a “big-game QB” from the Holmgren years and produced little to back it up, mainly because no coach who came into Green Bay could ever take on Favre in a battle of wills and expect to win because of the cult that sprung up around him. If Favre hadn’t been such an insufferable asshole in how he handled this offseason Green Bay would probably be looking for McCarthy’s replacement right now. Didn’t really surprise me that Favre botched it going down the stretch this season…he’s been choking in big games and getting his coaches fired for the last ten years.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 2:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So why did Mangini can Pennington?

I’d rather keep Herm for at least one more year than bring in Mangini.

by Ilamuku on Jan 5, 2009 2:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Don't Really Want Mangini Either

Because I do think he’s about a .500 coach and we can do better. Just saying that I think Favre contributed more to the late season collapse of the Jets than Mangini did because he’s been as uncoachable a player as anyone in the league for a long time.

And I think that the Jets got rid of Pennington because they felt Favre would be a major upgrade for that team, and because they fell in love with the rep and the star power. If they taken a look at his numbers for the last few season, or watched him choke away big games in the playoffs with huge interceptions for the last decade because he decided yet again that the game was all about him, I think they might have realized that Favre probably wasn’t going to be anyone’s savior this year.

What can you say? New Yorkers are probably the biggest star-fuckers on the planet after Los Angelinos :)

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 2:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL!

Yeah, I wonder if Mangini was against it but bringing in Favre was out of his control.

by Ilamuku on Jan 5, 2009 2:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Clue

But some of the Jets players have been saying that Mangini wasn’t nearly as harsh on Favre as he was on everyone else and that Favre came in there with a sense of entitlement. Maybe that was an issue of Favre being a Mangini favorite, and Mangini certainly deserves the blame for continuing to start Favre when he was sucking for the last month, but I also don’t know of too many head coaches who don’t notice when their QB is playing as badly as Favre played and costing them games, which makes me suspect that Favre was a favorite of ownership as much as the coaching staff.

By the way, National Football Post is saying that it appears Mangini is already assembling his coaching staff for the Cleveland gig already and that his hiring appears to be a foregone conclusion. If so, I’ve got to think that improves our odds of landing Pioli.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 2:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hire Coach THEN GM

Now that makes ALOT of sense. You have a GM opening and a HC opening. You put GM search on hold to get your head coach. WOW Mangini must have had 100’s of offers from teams if Cleveland found it MORE important to find a coach than a GM. That shows real support for you incoming GM. Your hired oh by the way here is your HC. I’m sorry the Brown’s organization is a bit backwards if you ask me. The GM NOT the owner should be hiring your HC. Thats just my humble opinion of the situation.

by ksjhwk on Jan 5, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

When you put the bigger priority on hiring the head coach than the GM, you’re basically saying that the GM will be staying only at the pleasure of the head coach and that any decisions the GM makes will have to get the HC’s okay (instead of the HC simply having input). The top candidates for GM probably aren’t going to want to walk into a situation like that.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 3:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm afraid of Ferentz

Admittedly, I don’t know anything about him other than what was posted above, but at least we have a known ability in Herm and Chan. What will we do if this Ferentz comes in and isn’t quite cut out for Pro Football, or is just another Herm? Are we going to call for firing him at the end of next season if we only win 4 – 6 games? With the existing team, Herm can win that next year.

My preference is to either stay with Herm for his final year to give him the opportunity to prove his plan and abilities, or to go with a new coach that has proven NFL abilities. My gut feeling is concern about bringing in a “good” college coach as a HC right away. I would be happy to bring him in to coach a skill position for a couple of years first. There is just too much of a transition from one level to the other. I would be happy with Chan as our HC and Ferentz as his assistant.

Will the HC select his coaches, (OC, DC, LINE, QB, etc) or will the GM hire them all?

by TXChiefan on Jan 5, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could the morning press conf be something to do with

the Stadium or ticket sales? Although it seems a lot of news happens on Tuesdays in the NFL, I am just leery of what it could actually be.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 5, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or could it be Carl?

Having his final press conference as they’re discussing right now on 810. Not too surprising that the King won’t go quietly.

by Maddogmag on Jan 5, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

but thats not scheduled till later in the day…the “rumored” press conf. is suppose to be early in the day

by DT58forever on Jan 5, 2009 3:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My bad

I just went back and reread the original and saw that. I’d delete my comment if I could.

by Maddogmag on Jan 5, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Ferentz

Why in the world would we hire Ferentz to be our next head coach? How often does the transition from coaching in college to the nfl work out? It rarely works out..If it didn’t work out for spurrier, saban, petrino (who all coached better teams than Iowa) then how in the hell do we expect this coach to do anything worthwhile? I’ve been all for the termination of Herm Edwards but if Piolo is set on Ferentz as coach then I hope we go else where..I’ll take Herm next year over Ferentz every day..

Our only coaching candidates should be:
1. Shannahan
2. Mcdaniels
3. Cowher or Shottyenheimer

Can you imagine how good we would be with pioli’s scouting and talent abaility with Shanahan’s coaching ability..We’d be great..If we hire Ferentz I’m moving on..That would be a terrible move

by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 5, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didnt most....

of these guys start off in a college setting? u cant prove yourself if you’re not given a chance. I myself like the possibility of Ferentz. He always runs a tight ship and has good teams. I would love it if we traded LJ off and picked up Shonn Greene from Iowa too.

by ComeSackMyQB on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flawed Argument

First I’d like to hear what specifically about Ferentz you don’t like? Most that don’t like the idea of hiring Ferentz don’t like it because of where he’s HC, as opposed to anything specific about his ability as a HC.

Lets start by analyzing the ‘ONLY’ candidates that are acceptable to you:

1. Shanahan…well, he’s essentially just said to Shefter that he’s going to take this year off and come back in ‘10. But guess what, Shanahan coached in college as well! At places like, (GASP) Northern Arizona, Eastern Illinois and Minnesota!
I know, HOW could this be?! What you’ll find is most coaches have coached in college. Ferentz, like Shanahan, has experience at both levels.

2. McDaniels: I like McDaniels, but he is a purely offensive hire (much like Shanahan) not that this is a bad thing, but moreso than Shanny or Ferentz, you’ll need a home-run DC and the hope that McDaniels would let his DC have total control over the D. This doesn’t always happen with young, big-egoed first time HC’s. Again, if we end up with McDaniels, I’d be fine with it, but I don’t see him as a ‘better’ hire than Ferentz. McDaniels got his start coaching at…(GASP!) Michigan State! Under, (GASP!) Nick Saban!

3. Cowher or ‘Shottyenheimer’: Cowher announced officially that he’s not returning until 2010. I assume you are talking about the elder Shottenheimer, he’s not being considered for the HC job here, and as of now, I don’t believe anywhere else. There were rumors the Jets were interested, but now his son is the leading candidate, so I’d have to assume that Marty has taken his hat out of the ring…the guy would probably make a solid executive, but he’s probably too old at this point to be a HC.

As to the guys who it ’didn’t work out for:’

Spurrier: Lacked the work ethic, wanted to coach 5-6 hours a day like in College.

Saban: I don’t think you could say he couldn’t be a successful HC in the NFL. He didn’t stick with it long enough, mainly b/c he’s a bit of a snake. As much as he’s a snake, I’m not sure he isn’t the best coach, at any level, in all of football. If Miami had signed Brees instead of Culpepper, when both were FA’s I’m not sure he wouldn’t have gone to a SB.

Petrino: Well, that was just a bad hire, another snake, but one that thought he was getting a team led by Vick, to run his spreadish offense. Who knows what would have happened if Vick hadn’t gone to jail.

There are plenty of others out there who came from college who made it and plenty that didn’t…but most ALL NFL coaches, come from college. Its just a fact. You have to evaluate each candidate on an individual basis, and if you haven’t watched Iowa Football, AT ALL, you probably aren’t in position to evaluate his candidacy.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 3:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank You

for making my point for me

by ComeSackMyQB on Jan 5, 2009 4:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure

Promote college coaches to coordinator or assisstant coaching position but promoting a head coach from div 1 to lead a nfl franchise just has a very low success rate..Yes everybody deserves a chance to prove themselves but Ferentz is not even that successful of a coach..When has his team every won a championship? And don’t give me any shit about the school being located in Iowa either because that isn’t an excuse..Honestly if the best of the best college coaches can’t make the transition then why are we even toying with this idea..

by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 5, 2009 3:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another problem with your arguement

Is the assumption that the best college coaches are at the ‘biggest’ programs. Ferentz’s team finished in the top 8 in the AP 3 straight years, I PROMISE, his team was the least talented of any in the top 20 each of those years.

‘Championships’ so you’re telling me Ferentz would only be considered successful if he won a National Title at Iowa? C’mon…thats delusional?! Look at the schools that have won National Titles in the last 10 years, none of them have come from a program like Iowa.

He’s split 2 Big 10 titles, and thats actually pretty impressive for Iowa.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 4:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing kcsno56

My statement regarding coaches was strictly about head coaches in college being hired as head coaches in the nfl..Yes most nfl coaches have at one time coached in college..I have no idea what the percentages are but I would guess most..But most move to the NFL as a position coach or a coordinator..Please don’t confuse what I’m saying..You can’t deny that head coaches in college usually do not make a successful transition to immediately being hired as an NFL head coach..It just rarely happens..

But you completely misinterpreted what I said..Yes Shanahan, McDaniels, and many coaches once coached in college..That’s obvious..

My point is this, the chances of this working out are low..I’d rather hire within the NFL..And no Shanahan is currently on a vacation and will make his final decision in a couple weeks..

by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 5, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UH, And Ferentz has 5 years

Of experience coaching an NFL OL. A good one, I might add.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 4:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The point being

in Iowa it is harder for them to get top notch recruites because of the location. Without those guys you arent going to win a championship. you arent even going to be considered for top ranking. look at the undefeated team who had the best record in college yet wasnt considered for the top spot. Ferentz is a good coach. Iowa almost always has a good defense which is what we need to improve badly.

by ComeSackMyQB on Jan 5, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about the University of Kansas?

Why does ku constantly have top of the line recruiting classes for basketball? I love kc but last time I checked kansas isn’t known for its location..So I think your arguement may have a flaw..

I’ll admit that I have not watched Iowa or have I followed their head coach so I’m obviously no expert on the subject..But with NFL coaches out their who are very qualified why consider hiring from college? It’s just my opinion and you’re certainly welcome to disagree..From your comments it does seem he has had a lot of success but so have many many other coaches immediately promoted to the head coaching position in the nfl..It rarely works..And that is my last point..If we hire him and he does well, then I will come on here and admit my ignorance..At this point it’s all speculation anyways..

by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 5, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm checking out of this arguement

Kansas is one of the top 5 college basketball programs of all-time.

I can’t stand them, but its a fact.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

basketball

is totally different, they are in a different conference for one. You find basketball players in different spots than football. Take Texas, Texas is a huge football state. Im not arguin with you about this one because you have a point but you cant judge ferentz by that point and you cant really judge him by wins or losses either. In college football there is more than just wins and losses.

by ComeSackMyQB on Jan 5, 2009 4:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My point was that comparing KU basketball to Iowa Football didn't work b/c

There is a tradition built in for Kansas to be successful that Iowa and Ferentz didn’t have.

by kcsno56 on Jan 5, 2009 4:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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