Jerry Jones regrets losing Chan Gailey
by kc571 on Jan 5, 2009 11:26 AM CST
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If we keep Thigpen as our QB, I too think we need to keep Chan Gailey as the OC. If we move in another direction, we'll risk losing Tony G., and we'll probably delegate Thigpen as our backup QB.
I don't know if losing LJ will be such a great thing. I don't know if Charles or Smith will be good enough runners to replace LJ.
It all starts with the GM.
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Considering What He Had To Work With
I think Chan Gailey did a solid job as the offensive coordinator here (and a good job as the head coach in Dallas). So if he stays next year I’ll be happy to have him around. On the other hand, while his offensive was outstanding in relation to the rest of the team, in relation to the rest of the league it was a below-average offense and if the new GM brings in a head coach who decides he wants his own offensive coordinator I’m not really going to complain about it. What Gailey did was enough to merit us not calling for his firing…it wasn’t enough to merit us complaining if the new head coach wants to go in a different direction with the offense.
In fact, there’s nothing that went well enough with this team to merit us being unhappy if the new management wants to scrap everything (including abandoning the 4-3 defense for a 3-4 if they think it will work better) and start from scratch. There should be no sacred cows on teams that have won less than a third of their games for the last three years.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree on one point
In fact, there’s nothing that went well enough with this team to merit us being unhappy if the new management wants to scrap everything (including abandoning the 4-3 defense for a 3-4 if they think it will work better) and start from scratch.
Where does Dorsey play in a 3-4? I fear that putting Dorsey at DE in a 3-4 would work out about as well as putting Boone at DE in the 4-3… ;)
by PVChiefsfan on Jan 5, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My Point Was
That if a new head coach comes in and thinks he can make that work and does make it work, I’m not going to complain about it after we went 2-14 with one of the worst defenses in the league while running a 4-3.
Doesn’t mean I’m not going to rip on the guy if he decides to go with a 3-4 and it flops. Just that as long as we get a head coach who’s not completely clueless (like Herm) I’m probably going to give him the benefit of the doubt for the next year on what scheme he wants to implement until the results show that it’s not working.
I do agree that Glenn Dorsey is probably best suited for a 4-3 defense, and I’m pretty sure that any competent head coach or DC who comes in is going to realize that and tailor his schemes to his players’ strengths rather than trying to repeatedly pound a square peg into a round hole (ala Herm).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
our linebacking corp is probably the weakest on our team in terms of depth. We could maybe field 4 guys, but no one would be behind them. Plus D Williams would be completely useless. And we wouldn’t have a NT, which is the keystone of a 3-4. 3-4 is completely out of the question unless we want to blow up the roster after a season in which we just blew up the roster. We would suck for half a decade.
by chiefsfan1384 on Jan 6, 2009 1:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gailey
did the best he could with what he had to work with. Putting a new scheme together midseason, and having success with it I thought was pretty amazing. But like you said, it won’t hurt my feelings to bring in all new people. I don’t think anyone is safe at any position.
"In the NFL, coaching has to make a difference when the games are close. The talent level across the league from team to team is too similar. Great head coaches do their best work in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line. Instead, we’ve seen Herm blow timeouts, put the game in the hands of the league’s worst defense, and most recently, run Larry Johnson behind Wade Smith and Adrian Jones as if they were Tim Grunhard and Will Shields in their prime.
Dr. Frankenstein is gone, but his monster is still roaming the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium." -C.E. Wendler, Warpaint Illustrated
by IISaiNtII on Jan 5, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I really don’t have anything bad to say about Gailey. I thought a few of the offense’s goal-line calls were questionable, but then we don’t really know who made those calls, Herm or Chan. I tend to assign blame to Herm primarily because he’s the head coach and ultimately it’s his responsibility (plus, he’s proven himself to be an incompetent game manager throughout his HC career). But the fact that we don’t know is also a large part of the reason why I’m not going to label it a grave injustice if Chan gets fired. Figure I’ll just defer to the judgment of the new GM on whether or not to keep Chan Gailey.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Those are pretty much my sentiments exactly. My take is, I don’t have much bad to say about him at all. I think a lot of our problems were due to execution and not offensive strategy.
What I do like about Gailey is his versatility. Just like you said, he changed schemes entirely in the middle of a season because he was able to work with what he had. I bet a lot of OC’s around the league wouldn’t, or couldn’t have made an effective transition to a wildly different offensive scheme. With better execution I believe it would have seen more success overall.
by Ochophosphate on Jan 5, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think Chan did a pretty good job and that the results were decent given the situation and timing of the switch. I also suspect that if we let Chan go he’s probably going to find himself a new job fairly quickly.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Losing LJ
The wave of the NFL is two back combos. Use Charles and add another decent back in the draft or free agency and I think we can get similar production.
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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 5, 2009 1:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Wouldn't Be Sorry To See Him Gone
Subtract his off-field baggage and his rotten attitude and I’m willing to suffer through the process of finding his replacement. There’s nothing that LJ does anymore that can’t be replaced by a committee of capable backs. And the things he excels at aren’t worth what we’re paying in when you factor in all of his negatives.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I don’t know if losing LJ will be such a great thing.
LJ in the backfield will be beneficial for the Chiefs starting QB’s growth. He still commands the respect of the defenses in the NFL. NOT Charles, Smith or Savage (yet). I know that RB’s are a dime a dozen but LJ has the potential to be great. But of course he has to check himself and JUST STAY HOME! I really don’t want to see him go and I don’t think he will for at least one more year.
by Ilamuku on Jan 5, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
The stronger offensive teams have a big down up the gut RB. This year was a crazy fluke season for us, because we had to do anything to make the O-Line successful and keep pressure off the QB. We must have a solid running game, and it should include the RB we are paying.
LJ is a good RB, he just needs to be used appropriately and in a balanced offense. With Charles and Battle gaining a bit more experience and becoming stronger backs, we will have that power, speed, and finesse combination we lacked this season. During the off season, we will be able to get Tyler more comfortable with the NFL offensive schemes and build a deeper playbook. The Offense will be much more developed as a unit and their ability to support the full compliment of schemes and plays will give us a much more productive offense. LJ is a key to that.
by TXChiefan on Jan 5, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LJ
I assume you mean LJ in a good mood. If he doesn’t want to play he is a liability. He doesn’t have the character to play hard unless he wants to. Get the bad seed out while he still has value and hasn’t corrupted to many young players.
by FanSinceLen on Jan 5, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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