Ratface in KC?

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 5, 2009 8:29 AM CST

And can we still call him "Ratface" if he does become our head coach?

Wendler over at Warpaint Illustrated constructs a good argument that the Chiefs' next head coach should be Mike Shanahan.

If you can get past your division-rivalry bias, you might come to realize just exactly what I did when the Denver Broncos surprisingly axed their longtime head coach last week – Mike Shanahan is exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs need. It couldn’t be a more perfect fit.

Wendler makes two main points in his argument.

1) Shanahan builds great offensive lines/rushing offenses.

Over the last 10 years, the Broncos ranked in the top 10 in rushing offense eight times. That’s significant because they did it without a consistent feature back. Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns, Tatum Bell, Travis Henry, Selvin Young, take your pick. All experienced success in Shanahan’s zone-blocking, cutback scheme.

2) Shanahan can identify and develop talent at the QB position -

Of course there’s more to Shanahan than just ridiculous success with running games. At his heart, as a former offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, Shanahan is a quarterback guru.

It’s probably not coincidence that Steve Young finally won a Super Bowl after he hooked up with Shanahan. The same can be said for John Elway, who curiously seemed to either go to the Super Bowl or simply win it when Shanahan was his quarterbacks coach, offensive coordinator or head coach

Wendler goes on to discuss Shanahan's biggest weakness - a complete lack of anything resembling the ability to construct a defense, or even to pick defensive coaches who can do so.

Thoughts?

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Nah...too much orange flowing in those veins :)

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Jan 5, 2009 9:12 AM CST reply actions

I'd rather give myself a catheter with a garden hose.

Proud to be a part of the Conference of Champions and their complete bowl season domination.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2009 9:32 AM CST reply actions

Those were my sentiments =)

but to be serious, Shanahan does appear to be rather good at the two things we need
1) building a good o-line/running attack
2) finding/developing a talented QB

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 5, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions

We need him.

We need a coach that knows how to get to the playoffs and then win at that level. Mike’s already very familiar with our environment and I guarantee he has a respect for our stadium and for us, the fans. Keeping the Chiefs out of the playoffs all those years was nothing personal. He’s no longer a Bronco, just a good HC that’s ripe for the pickin. I suspect he’ll do well wherever he goes.

by ChiefsDude on Jan 5, 2009 10:52 AM CST reply actions

I'd

take Shanny in a heartbeat. It seems some people are more worried about where he came from than where he can take us. Whe need a guy who can develop a QB and a running game, which is what he does. Also he will want to beat Denver and Oak more than Herm ever dreamed of. I think he’s more proven than Cower (IMO), so he’s my number one pick!!!

by GHOST OF DT on Jan 5, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions

What QB's has the Nutria King developed?

Are we going to credit him with developing uncle fucking Elway? Who else? Plummer? Cutler was a first round pick and shouldn’t need much development. I don’t think his success has anything to do with Shanny and everything to do with Cutler simply being a good player.

Proud to be a part of the Conference of Champions and their complete bowl season domination.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 5, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions

Why didn't Elway win a Super Bowl under Reeves?

And even if Shanahan didn’t develop Cutler in any way, he certainly correctly identified Cutler as a good QB, even though Young (Vince, not Steve) and Leinart were more highly touted coming out of college.

I’d like to have a head coach who could pick the best QB out of a group of college QB’s…we might need that in 4 months.

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 5, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions

He Didn't Develop Elway

Elway’s emergence from “overrated” to Hall of Famer actually started under Wade Phillips’ tenure in 1993 when Shanahan was working for the 49ers. The biggest problem with Elway was Dan Reeves’ crappy offense (which ran a lot like Herm’s loser ball offense as I recall).

It’s a good point that Shanahan has not developed a Hall of Fame QB (although Cutler might qualify eventually). But he’s consistently done a good job of putting together great offenses that best utilize the talent that’s in place. His biggest weakness came in that as a GM he wasn’t very adept at judging talent in the draft so he ended up running good offensive schemes with mediocre or bad players. Put him with a GM who’s a top talent evaluator and I think Shanahan goes back to being one of the top coaches in the league…he just needs to be in a situation where his control freak tendencies are kept in check by a boss.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 5, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

yep

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 5, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions

just because

your a first round draft pick doesnt mean you dont need a lot of work…Vince Young…Brady Quinn,(the lists goes on and on, not even including straight up busts)I think Peyton manning was 3-13 his first year and dont recall his stats prob. because they sucked! I guess there is no irony in the fact that Steve Young finally won a super bowl with Shanny in town, or with Elway as well, dont get me wrong both were great QB’s already or were on the way to being great QB’s but ill give him some credit in helping develop those guys

by DT58forever on Jan 5, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions

ratface

I’ve been a Chiefs fan since about 1968 (big Otis Taylor fan). Hopefully I’ll still be one after we hire someone other than an donkey. I for one want to keep Herm.

vajazz24

by vajazz24 on Jan 5, 2009 5:11 PM CST reply actions