Pass rush

by pleaseblock on Jan 3, 2009 10:16 AM CST Comment 12 comments

I am thinking about changing my screen name to pleasepassrush. Seriously. "Bas's" post got me thinking more about this problem. Improving the pass rush is the single biggest problem we face going into the offseason. We just set the record for fewest sacks in a season. Moreover, there is litle hope on the horizon. There are few premium pass rushers in the draft or in free agency, and Turk, Tank, and Dorsey look like secondary-type rushers at best.

Our other problems seem much more tractable. For example, as Bas points out, there are some solid free agent linebackers available. I am particularly interested in Karlos Dansby (ARZ), Michael Boley (ATL), or Angelo Crowell (BUF). The draft has some good linebacking as well (e.g., Aaron Curry or James Laurinaitis in Round 1, others later on). Likewise, we can take a top offensive tackle prospect with the third overall pick and a second-tier QB prospect later in the draft (i.e., Rounds 2 through 5).

As far as pass rushers go, I think we are in a difficult position. My guess is that Carolina resigns Julius Peppers (who grew up in North Carolina, attended the University of North Carolina, and has played for the Panthers his whole career) and the other free agents appear to be a poor fit (e.g., Suggs is a 3-4 OLB) or not that good. In the draft, Brian Orapko is not good value at third overall and there really isn't anyone else at defensive end that we might consider at third overall. I suppose Aaron Maybin (Penn State) is an exception, but he is pretty small (6'4, 236lbs) so he would seem to be just be a situational pass rusher as a rookie for the Chiefs (a better fit would be an OLB in a 3-4) and he is a sophomore who may not come out in the draft.

What should the Chiefs do about the pass rush problem? Are we two years away from even beginning to solve this problem?

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i think

glen dorsey will be better when he is playing to his abilities and not just made to do something on the line. a pass rushing DE needs to be addressed. i say try to pick one.up in free agency and then one in the draft. if not try to get a LB (hopefully Bart Scott) and draft a DE like brian orakpo. but i think that DE is a top priorty for the defense to get pressure on the QB and take pressure off the LB’s

by chiefs8288 on Jan 3, 2009 10:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Jokes On Us

We Had Jared Allen…….. Traded Him For Crap……. Theres Nothing Else To Say

by ImportsOnly on Jan 3, 2009 11:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Crap?

we got a nice haul for a player that didn’t want to be here and makes way to much money.

Go to Wide World of Roto for all your fantasy news!

by JasonM on Jan 3, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Crap?

Seriously? Branden Albert, Jamaal Charles, Brad Cottam, DaJuan Morgan, and Kevin Robinson were all involved in the merry-go-round of picks in the two trades involving KC-Minnesota and KC-Detroit (pulled off with the first round pick we got from Minnesota).

At the very least, Albert looks like a good (possibly great, but let’s not get hasty) LT, and Charles is a nice change-of-pace back who can already receive and pass-block much better than LJ. The jury is still out on Cottam, Morgan and Robinson.

I’ll take the very real possibility of 5 good contributors to the team over Allen any day, even though his sack numbers would have been nice to have this year.

by Seth_C on Jan 4, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jared didn't want to stay

Jared didn’t want to stay in KC

by Aejfan on Jan 3, 2009 11:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

And we ended up with a Solid Left Tackle in Branden Albert and it was one of our 3rd round picks. Which were all pretty bad picks lookin so far anyways.

by NakedDave on Jan 3, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

New Hired Defensive coaches alone will improve the line play

With that and the addition of a solid pass rushing DE and Linebackers who can play the position, we could be on the way to a good defense. I am in agreement with another post here, that we need that one defensive individual who will get in your face and make you want to play better. A true leader on the field.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 3, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I still want Dansby

He is all over the place today.

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Jan 3, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Pass rush issues

I too have really thought about this. I was listening to a podcast of Len Dawson on 810, and he noted how Hali really looked small for a DE this year. The 3-4 produces a better pass rush because the LBs can be lighter and faster, since they do not have to work in the trenches. 3-4 DEs are basically the oversized, slow DEs that we complain about.

A great 4-3 DE is hard to get, because they need to have a truly special size/speed combination to beat really athletic tackles. Even several decent teams do not have great DEs.

But I think Suggs is a different breed. He plays with his hand in the ground quite a bit. Baltimore’s 3-4 is actually more like a 5-2: they always seem to send a couple of linebackers in different places. He could be a really good DE, but it is a guess.

As for Orakpo, Len’s comments lead me to believe he is the best shot of the high-profile DEs. He is like 300 pounds and very strong. If he has a good 10 and 20, then I see no reason why he cannot dominate at the next level.

It is still possible that we have our next rusher on the roster. We have some developmental guys that have the numbers, but have just not played a lot. It is hard for any rookie, no matter the physical abilities, to make an impact in the first year (see Mario Williams). Another year in the weight room and learning technique, and we might find a guy or two that can play really well.

That’s the great thing about youth: you always have untapped potential to look forward to. For a 2-14 team, I feel pretty good about the Chiefs next year.

by bas on Jan 4, 2009 12:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Orakpo is like 260lbs

Indecision is the key to flexibility

by cmpotter on Jan 4, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not to mention

that babin came in at the end of the season and had most of the teams sacks (not quite but you know what i mean)

by chiefs8288 on Jan 4, 2009 4:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

And we’ll have McBride back. I know during the season he didn’t play well but Preseason made plays. Hali was very good his first 2 years. With someone else on the otherside Hali hopefully will be back. Don’t give up on him yet.

by NakedDave on Jan 4, 2009 3:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs