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Derrick Johnson's Future with the Chiefs

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When Derrick Johnson fell to the Chiefs in the 2005 NFL Draft I nearly fell out of my chair.  His NCAA accolades were mesmerizing.  His speed thrilled me.  His 9 forced fumbles his final year at Texas were an NCAA record.

Here's a little more about him coming out of Texas:

Derrick Johnson is the top-ranked linebacker in the draft, with the hardware to support such standing. Johnson's haul included the Bronko Nagurski Trophy as the nation's top defensive player, The Butkus Award as the nation's top linebacker and the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year award. After setting an NCAA record with nine forced fumbles in 2004, he became the first Texas defender since Tommy Nobis to earn first-team All-America honors.

Can't miss prospect, right?  Well, not so much.

Those that claim he's a bust aren't necessarily saying he's a bad player.  Because he's not.  He's been average to above average his entire career (72 tackles and 3 sacks per year average).  But for the 15th pick in the draft, you're looking for a Jonathan Vilma (12th overall pick in 2004) or a DeMarcus Ware (11th overall in 2005).  Though those players line up in different positions within the linebacker position group, both have made a bigger impact for their respective teams than Johnson (and both made the Pro Bowl their second year).

Johnson is entering the final year of his rookie contract.  What's next for DJ?

Trade Him

I'm not a fan of this move.  He's demonstrated an ability to play competently even though the flashes of the Texas Derrick Johnson don't appear frequently.  He has some value on the trade market, but realistically this wouldn't be worth it.

For some perspective, Jonathan Vilma (drafted 1 year earlier), was traded to the Saints for a conditional 4th round pick that could escalate to a 2nd round pick if he hit certain incentives*.  Vilma's position, middle linebacker, has a higher value than Johnson's, strongside linebacker (although he played weakside at Texas and has generally looked better on that side).

*Vilma also lost value because the Jets switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 when Eric Mangini arrived.  He lost a ton of playing time in his last year with the Jets and most teams knew he would be traded which decreased his value.

So, Derrick Johnson has done less statistically and plays a position on the linebacking corps with less value than Vilma, who was traded for a conditional 4th rounder.  With this comparison, I would place Johnson's value in the same ballpark, but probably closer a true 4th round pick (without realistically achievable incentives that could push it higher).

Does anyone think we can find a player with a similar production value to Johnson in the 4th round of the draft?  Not me.

Re-sign Him

With a projected $45 million in cap room in 2009, the Chiefs will have the option of re-signing Johnson to a long term deal this coming season.  With a base salary of $1.5 million in the final year of his deal and a looming cap-less year in 2010, the Chiefs can throw plenty of guaranteed money at him in 2009 that will keep him around for a few years but at a discounted rate on the final years of the deal.

Another caveat to this whole contract situation is a change in the Collective Bargaining Agreement in the event of a cap-less 2010 season.  Previously, a player had to accrue 4 years of service to become an unrestricted free agent.  However, a cap-less year would turn that number to 6 years meaning he would be a restricted free agent (Translation: teams would be able to match the contract offer sheet we gave him but would in turn give up draft picks to the Chiefs for the right to sign him).

Let Him Walk After 2009

This isn't an appealing scenario because you always want to get value for a player if he's just going to be around for one more season.  I don't see this situation popping up with the Chiefs.  He's certainly a serviceable player who has a role with the Chiefs.

Should He Stay Or Should He Go?

Derrick Johnson should stay with the Chiefs.  While he may not have lived up to the billing that was bestowed upon him as a 1st round pick, he's still a decent player albeit with a ceiling that seems to be diminishing each season. 

The question really comes down to: What player or what draft pick is a better option than Derrick Johnson at this point? Currently, the Chiefs have no better option.

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He should stay..

Has he underperformed…sure. But right now we don’t have the luxury of cutting our best LB. He should improve this year with a more seasoned Dorsey taking on some blockers.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 29, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

By the way

I’m trying to confirm the 4 to 6 year RFA in the event of a cap-less year section. That’s my understanding of the CBA but I’m also not a lawyer.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, that’s all we got, maybe an employment or sports law guy might know something, haven’t ever looked at the 2006(?) CBA but that would make sense: kill the cap extend the period prior to free agency (players get scrilla, owners have a little more control). They could probably have the owners and players union meet tomorrow and completely contract around any of it if they wanted to though.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jan 29, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HIV 2 ELWAY = Genius

cant really see us getting rid of our best LB. now thats like being the Best Worst Hair stylist or something but yeah he is still an asset and we wont get anything close to a 1st

by Hendrix on Jan 29, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Alright thats about enough of this genius talk.

Anymore of that and people will think we’re in cohutes (I’ll have that $20 for you tonight). Besides +1’s are the currency of choice :)

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 29, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vilma

Don’t forget his knee injury…concern about long-term damage killed his trade value.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 29, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't/doesn't he...

also have some exotic injury/illness?

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 29, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, that's right

I was thinking that was with the Saints.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

That bone chip issue was an injury from high school.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, here’s what I am sick of,
nearly every one of these player reviews is when(insert players name) fell to the Chiefs in the (insert number) round of the draft.……..
This is part of the problem, getting the ones that fall to the Chiefs draft spot. Damn it stop taking what’s left and show some initiative and go get what you need. That article on Polamalu explains it well that Pittsburgh moved up, went after what they wanted rather than sit around and wait. Oh please master could we have a few more crums.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Jan 29, 2009 12:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think this is the problem right here
For some perspective, Jonathan Vilma (drafted 1 year earlier), was traded to the Saints for a conditional 4th round pick that could escalate to a 2nd round pick if he hit certain incentives*. Vilma’s position, middle linebacker, has a higher value than Johnson’s, strongside linebacker (although he played weakside at Texas and has generally looked better on that side).

DJ was never a Sam, ever – he’s not built for it, it doesn’t cater to his strengths, but emphasizes his weaknesses -

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 29, 2009 12:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I think it was you who pointed out that when he led the league in TFL in ’07, more than half came from the weakside (so did his 2 INTs that year).

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

You seem to have a better understanding of the technical aspects of the positions, so why can’t (or hasn’t) DJ be effective on the strong side?

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In college

DJ’s strengths were pursuing the play (taking advantage of his speed) and using his his speed to get into the backfield – he’s a fairly hard hitter (the 9 FF’s) but in college, as in the Pros, one of his main weaknesses has been the ability to shed blockers.

The Sam is usually playside, and is either facing a FB, or pulling lineman, or TE, depending on where the run is going – DJ is not great at getting off those blocks.

When DJ is playing in the middle, or weakside, he sees those strongside running plays developing, and many times, used his speed to disrupt the play by torpedoing one of the blockers or the ball-carrier, and since he is coming from the other side of the formation, he’s facing those blockers at an angle, which is obviously an advantage against a pulling guard or center =)

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 29, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for that explaination

That sort of analysis is great info

by TXChiefan on Jan 29, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That does make sense...

But the knock on DJ coming out of college was that he couldn’t take on blockers, and would get tied up with them. DJ was suppose to be a top 5 prospect by all the draft niks, but the personnel guys agreed that he could be easily taken out of plays because he couldn’t shed the block.

Which explained why he was available for us at 15.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Jan 30, 2009 2:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And the thing I'll never understand

is why we took a guy whose main weakness was shedding blocks, and put him on the strong side where he had to take on blockers straight on -

he has a much better chance of getting off the block (or never being blocked in the first place) when he gets to use his speed to take an angle on the ball carrier.

Here’s one thing I like a lot about Johnson from the middle or weakside – if he doesn’t have a play on the ball carrier when he shoots over there, he just throws his body in the way, either taking out one of the lead blockers, or disrupting the play and forcing the ball carrier to change paths (so the RB can’t just plod along behind the blockers) – if we had other good LB’s, they’d easily make the tackle after that.

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

My take on why DJ was put on the strongside, because there was no one else who had the speed to keep up with the TE. Its like taking a SMF who’s best postion in on the left side of the pitch and taking him out of his comfortable zone, and playing him on the right side because you want you best players on the field.

Plus our LB’s play was so poor that DJ could have been played in all three LB positions.

Agreed that if better LB’s surround DJ he will have a resurgence in his career. He’s not a difference maker by himself, but can be an outstanding player with better mates around him. That’s why I say BPA @ LB with the number 3.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Jan 30, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why I say BPA @ LB with the number 3.

I think the BPA at number may be a LB

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's been the big problem

we have been trying to force players into positions and schemes that they aren’t suited for. I think towards the end of the season DJ was playing much better at MLB than Sam. This works out for us, because I believe Curry is a true Sam backer (or do I have that wrong). If only Donnie had one more year in him, we could have DJ at Willie, Donnie at MLB, and Curry at Sam. That’s a pretty solid line up. But I guess we can make due with Williams, DJ, and Curry.

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 29, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is what I would do with LJ

I would negotiate serious talks with the Titans, 49ers and whoever else needed a go to wide receiver. I would make sure the Seahawk’s were included in the conversation. I would then offer our #3 (Crabtree) and LJ to the Seahawks for their #4 and 2 round (compensation for the #3) and their 3rd or fourth round (compensation for LJ). I would convince the Seahawks we were taking Crabtree if they didn’t make the deal.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 29, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Confused?

Felt like I was watching someone shuffling three cards and asking me to follow the queen.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Jan 29, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trade

Chiefs 3rd overall pick and LJ for the Seahawks 4th overall, 2nd round and 3rd or 4th rounder.

3rd overall pick for the ’Hawks 4th and 2nd rounder.
LJ for the ’Hawks 3rd or 4th rounder.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe I should forward all my thoughts to you first :)

my wife does the thinking for me at home. She explains things better to the kids.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 29, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think they'd call our bluff

Right now everyone expects us to take defense with our #3 pick. The only way this works is if we draft Crabtree then turn to Seattle and say, “you can have him if you make a deal”. Otherwise, they will expect us to take Curry or Stafford (if he’s still on the board).

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 29, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thats the beuty of it

Everyone expects us to take a QB or LB/DE with our first pick. The Seahawk’s will have 20 minutes to decide what they want to do. (our 10 to pick and there 10 to decide for a trade) This would be a surprise, but I see us getting value for the pick by taking Crabtree. Worst case scenario, he plays for us.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 29, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then again, the other teams drafting after us could still make a deal

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 29, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

I see the beauty of the plan, but I hope someone will make the big trade for him. I’m not knocking Crabtree, I think he will be very, very good. I just think we need massive help on D this year. Curry won’t last long in the draft so if Seattle doesn’t bite we had better hope to get a trade done in time for one of the LBs from USC or Laurinitis. Plus, this helps us avoid the prima-dona flame up that would inevitably occur between Crabtree and Bowe feuding over the title of #1.

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 29, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DJ

I think DJ’s been in the problems of playing a position that he’s just not equipped for in a scheme that doesn’t suit him. So we’ll have to see what happens with our new (soon to be announced? ahem…)HC and DC and what kind of system the implement. With the right tools in place I think DC could regain some of his collegiate momentum.

In any event with our D the way it is, trading him won’t help us out any.

by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 29, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

they implement

I meant ‘they implement" not the implement… wouldn’t want to be pulling and Emmit…
:)

by Eastcoastransplant on Jan 29, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, but you just did :)
wouldn’t want to be pulling and Emmit…

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

franchise him

and let the new coaching staff make him a star!

by REMWHEN on Jan 29, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who

would you put the franchise tag on?

by REMWHEN on Jan 29, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No one.

You don’t have to use it every year and this year we don’t have any FA that we need to worry about walking.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 29, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Franchise Tag

Would increase DJ’s salary by about 800%. We could increase it three fold and still keep him.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 29, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then we resign him

3X his rookie deal would be a bargain for one of the best players on a crap defense. The bar is not set very high.

by REMWHEN on Jan 29, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree...

resign, no franchise needed.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 29, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

See

sometimes all it takes is an absurd suggestion to make the answer obvious:)

by REMWHEN on Jan 29, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am still high on DJ

I think our defensive performance as a whole is just as much to do with coaching as it is with lack of talent. I will be you all right now – under Pioli, whoever he brings in as the next DC, that we see DJ make the Pro Bowl as the talent level increases around him. With another star linebacker and a better defensive line DJ will thrive. Weak side!

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by JChief on Jan 29, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

bet*

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by JChief on Jan 29, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Resign him

He may not be the best, but he’s ours, damnit! ; ^ )

by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 29, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DJ

I’d be inclined not to break the bank on him. And don’t be fooled by a contract year spike in play. He is a fairly good player with great player skills.

by FrankPitts on Jan 29, 2009 2:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Draft CURRY.

I bet Johnson will look better with some help.

by WMR on Jan 29, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also needs help from D line

I agree Curry will help a lot, but we still need to pick up a DE in free agency. Offenses simply wouldn’t be able to double team Dorsey, a good DE, and DJ on the weak side. even if they do, that’s 6 guys working against 3, leaving somebody open to make plays. We need to find a good DE.

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 29, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Derrick is a good LB, not great but good enough.

I say RESIGN him he shouldn’t be highly sought after in Free Agency if we give him a good deal.

Just put better LB’s around him, and he’ll hold his own.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Jan 29, 2009 3:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

if he's been playing below potential,

and has a good up-side, now would be a good time to lock him up on a long contract. If he’s playing to potential, go medium-term.

I don’t see a lot of value to be had by trading him. If he won’t draw a trade on his own merit, then I have doubts about some byzantine trade deal.

If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will win more next season.
QBs drafted in the top 5, back to 2001:
Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan. How many were worth that high a pick? You decide.

by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 29, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was never giving the chance,...

always had to play in the Tampa Poo,….not able to take advantage of his skills and crash on the plays!! Put em in the 3/4 and will be a all pro LB

by HOF4DT58 on Jan 29, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Could have something to do with our crappy scheme.

Maybe under new coaching, DJ will be more prone to make big plays. Between Dick, Herm, and Gun I don’t think DJ’s had very good coaching around him since college. What dominant defensive players have we had the last 10 years ? It’s nice to know that we will have a new coaching staff on deck!

by GHOST OF DT on Jan 29, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa hold on .... man...

  

I don’t think DJ’s had very good coaching around him since college

Sorry man don’t mean to burst your bubble, but wasen’t DJ ‘s coach at Texas Greg Robinson? The same Robinson who sucked as our former DC, and Syracuse’s ex-HC. The same guy that told Peterson that we didn’t need Donnie Edwards who later signed with San Diego.

I just don’t think DJ is consistent enough to be a superstar in the NFL. He makes plays, but disappears a lot during games. He’s good enough to keep around, I think he’s hit his ceiling unless there’s a coach who can push his buttons.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Jan 30, 2009 2:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

By this point in his career, I think Derrick Johnson probably is what we’ve seen so far. A physically gifted athlete and a solid linebacker who’s probably never going to be a superstar. That’s good enough to keep around (for a reasonable price) because he can help the team, and he might sneak into a Pro Bowl or two, but that’s about it.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Making the ProBowl

as a 4-3 OLB is tough, especially in the AFC. Not every 1st rounder can be a ProBowler…I just want DJ to be more consistent, and I think using him properly at Mike or ideally Will would help that

(getting some other non-scrub LB’s would help too =) )

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I Could See That

But DJ’s not even a Seth Joyner type LB (who played his career in a 4-3) and that’s really what you want with a guy like him considering where he was drafted.

I don’t think the guy sucks, I just think that he’s a solid LB who might have a big year or two but who’ll probably never be a star. Good teams need solid LBs too.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To pick your brain, not to challenge you...

If he never becomes a star would you consider him a bust?

Can (or should) all first rounders become stars? I mean, I understand you want them to not be busts (Ryan Sims), and it would be great if they became stars, but if you get a guy out of Round 1 who is a solid 10 year contributor, is that enough? or did they fail to meet their full expectations?

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not UC, but I'll venture my own thoughts here

A solid 10 year contributor is by no means a bust. The term “star” refers to truly exceptional athletes. If all 1st rounders (barring any busts) became stars, you would have 32 every year. That means in span of 4 years you would expect 128 stars, in 10 you would have 320. At some point you have to stop using the word “star” as these numbers increase. The true “stars” are the ones that elevate the game to a new level and are consistently considered one of the top 5 in the league at their position, no matter how much the athletic ability of the rest of the league increases. A 10 year player who never makes the Pro Bowl but consistently earns the starting spot is by no means a bust.

by Chiefs4Life on Jan 30, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bust Is Probably Too Strong

“Disappointing for his draft position” would be more like it if he stays at about this level. But he’s been productive and he’s not a problem child, so I don’t think “bust” would be an accurate description at all. He’s like Broderick Thomas (although without the two peak seasons)…he’s a guy you like to have on your team but probably not a great value for where he was selected.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But That's Okay

Like Chiefs4Life said, star players just aren’t that common. Although Barrett Ruud probably would have been a better choice.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When you think of KC linebackers

the only one recent enough worth talking about is DJ. It shouldn’t be like that. Draft or pick up so help for him. I bet he’d welcome some fresh company.

by WMR on Jan 29, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i say keep him

i think the lack of performance is due to defensive scheme. hell i think we should keep let thigpen compete for starting qb, and give LJ atleast 1 more year to see if he can get back to 05 form, granted or O-Line helps. get a DE or LB depends on hour our defense we want to play. who knows Gun. might not even be here still.

Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.

by nfamous209 on Jan 30, 2009 8:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gun is with Detroit

speaking of, I heard Dick Curl went to St. Louis? I must have missed the AP story about it…

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He Did

Gone…a few people wrote stories about it. All of them happy ones.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How is it

that all of our shitty coaches ended up with jobs? (sans Herm)

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because The NFL Is Incestuous

It’s not always how good you are, but who you know. Gunther knew Schwartz. Priefer…well, I have no idea why anyone likes Priefer.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When I hear his name, I insticntively think of Medlock

Is there any chance that Medlock will become a Ray Finkle? Who is the Pet Detective assigned to the Chiefs?

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jan 30, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He Wasn't Good Enough To Be Finkle

Finkle at least made it to an imaginary Super Bowl and got to meet Dan Marino. Medlock’s just some dude who washed out after one game in the league.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

Neither will Mike Shanahan.

by UCrawford on Jan 30, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew Schwartz liked Gunther

I was wondering more about Priefer and Curl…good riddance to both.

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 30, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

With good coaching

DJ should be able to learn how to shed blocks. Right? This isnt anything that cannot be taught. Keep him.

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by Chiefs_swagger on Feb 5, 2009 11:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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