Shanahan 'Laughs' at Chiefs Coaching Rumors
by Joel Thorman on Jan 26, 2009 11:32 AM CST
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Not that we didn't already know, but Adam Schefter confirmed his report that Mike Shanahan wasn't a candidate to replace Herm Edwards in Kansas City when the former Denver coach reportedly 'laughed' at rumors that he was close to landing in Kansas City.
Apparently Shanahan had turned off his cell phone while playing a round of golf on Friday afternoon when Edwards was fired and Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported the Chiefs were nearing a deal with him to be the next Chiefs coach.
Shanahan quickly found out the fuss he indirectly and unknowingly had created. When he walked off the golf course and into the clubhouse after playing 18, multiple golfers asked Shanahan if it were true he was closing in on a deal with the Chiefs.
Shanahan laughed. He had heard the rumors since Thursday morning, when members of his former coaching staff began calling to ask him if it were true that he was going to Kansas City.
And with that, Chris Mortensen lost pretty much all credibility with the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Should have been titled
“Shanahan Laughs at Mortenson’s Rumor-mongering”
Seriously, I have hated ESPN for the last few years since it’s always been Colts,Pats, Yanks, Red Sox basically 24-7-365… I actually have it blocked from a couple of TV’s so I don’t even have to think about watching it when channel surfing.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
Lack of competition
Is what keeps me going back to ESPN. The number of live sporting events and afternoon shows keep me coming back. I can’t say I agree with everything (or even a lot) of what is aired on there but what other choice do we have?
The internet is slowly replacing some portions of ESPN for me.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 26, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
ESPN
just totally sucks IMHO. I’d rather cruise the internet looking at rumors and getting my infomation than watch them. The only reason they aren’t blocked on ALL my tv’s was because of MNF, and I couldn’t remember espnhd channel number ;)
They can go suck a lemon for all I care. Pretty much all I hear from them is “blah blah blah” anyway. However, I do have to say I was watching when I heard that Herm got fired to hear Tony G speak… so I guess they did get that… But Metro sports has always been pretty good about local sports news (albeit only for those in the KC area who have TWC).
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
Most of the stuff ESPN reports is history anyways....nothing new, most of the stuff hot of the press is from the internet anyways.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 26, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I agree wholeheartedly
There needs to be another competitive Sports network similar to the way ESPN started from its roots. They have forgotten what good journalism is all about and gone for the almighty dollar.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Fox sports
is the next closest thing… and that’s pretty sad.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
For example
Buying the BCS….it wouldn’t be in their best interests to promote anything but the BCS. That’s not exactly fair coverage.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 26, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Believe me
We wish they’d stop talking about the damn Pats already. The internet is a very good replacement for ESPN, and the only time I watch it is for MNF.
Same here.
I don’t need to keep hearing how good everything thinks Mooning Manning is, I don’t need it beat into me any more that Brady is the sh*t. I damn sure don’t care about the Yankees, and I have to hate the Red Sox because of that ridiculous movie that Drew Barrymore made with that HACK of a comedian … wherein they made fun of the Royals. I don’t think that movie had anything to do with ESPN, but screw Jimmy Fallon.
Plus I can’t stand that most of the TV “personalities” on ESPN.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
Berman is #1 asshole...
his shtick got old around 1990
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 26, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Is anyone else tired of
He
Could
Go
All
The Way……………..
Starts sounding like a porno chant after a few times.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I don't understand
So Mortensen just made the entire story up? I doubt that. Someone on the inside had to of leaked false information.
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 26, 2009 11:44 AM CST reply actions
Yeah
But it was Mortensen who went with that information. We’re not suggesting Mortensen made the story up but that he went on record with a shaky source.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 26, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
I'll go on record
as saying I think he made the s#!t up. In fact, I’ll stake my reputation on it… “Why?” you may ask? Because quite simply I can, because I’m not a degree-holding journalist who follows things up, that’s why.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
Yeah.... and that shaky source was ....
He didn’t necessarily make the story up, he got some prime ‘inside’ information from Jack Harry. Amazing.
Mort was just on ESPN
Said, look for Todd Haley to be HC if Chiefs wait til after the Super Bowl. LOL! Thanks Mort!
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jan 26, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions
He only laughed?
Interesting that it says that he laughed, not that he denied that it was true. Just a thought.
Actually
He denied it was true as well. He wants to spend 2009 kicking back and relaxing while getting paid $7 million. Apparently he’s been spending all of his time golfing since getting fired.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Supposedly
He may have to be gainfully looking for employment to get that money. Just what I saw of PFT…
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
I heard the same thing
from Kevin Harlan on one of the local radio stations.
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
yep
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/24/unanswered-questions-regarding-shanahans-buyout/
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
I agree with arrowhead
He didn’t come out say it wasn’t true. He just laughed. I will tell you that people here in San Diego DO NOT want Shanny in KC. Which is one of the reasons why I want him coaching the chiefs.
by kcfaninsandiego on Jan 26, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions
He laughed at the rumors.....That rat face prick....We laughed at even considering him as HC.
I’ll make this as simple as possilbe:
NO head coach has ever won two Superbowls with two different teams!
Of the 89 years of the NFL’s existence its never happened, so don’t believe some fallacy that it will be broken anytime soon. Lombardi couldn’t do it nor could the immortal Bill Parcels.
So no to Cowher and a HELL no to the RAT!
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
I Think He Was Laughing More
At the fact that this story blew up because nobody could call him on his cell phone because he was out on the golf course.
It was a story with no basis that could have been killed in five minutes with just that phone call and one very high profile reporter got made to look very foolish…I would have laughed too.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I know he was laughing at the rumor, and not at us.
I couldn’t but help take a shot at the punk. Just looking at that picture just conjures up the worst in me.
I would love to have the Chiefs back in contention and have a real shot at the Superbowl someday, but not at any expense. Gotta have some standards man.
Hard to refute that no coach was able to repeat Superbowl with two different teams, 89 years its never been done. Why I don’t know, but the probability is not good. I’d rather try something fresh than the same old same ’ol.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 26, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I Addressed That Earlier
Don Shula won multiple Super Bowls with his second team after going to a Super Bowl with his first team. The idea that a coach can’t win Super Bowls with two teams is superstition, not a rule of the universe. The only reason it doesn’t happen more often is because you’re talking about a very small number of coaches that win Super Bowls with their team and get fired early enough in their career to go to a second team and be successful. Shanahan is still young enough to be that good of a coach.
Doesn’t matter anyway, because he’s not coming.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Superstition? and I'll address is it again..
An Irrational belief: an irrational, but usually deep-seated belief in the magical effects of a specific action or ritual, especially in the likelihood that good or bad luck will result from performing it
Hardly a superstition if history supports the theory. Facts speak for themselves. Does not matter with whom they won the Lombardi award with. The fact is that those who won the award did not repeat the success with their second team. Only 5 coachs were able to make it to multiple Super Bowls with differnt teams.
In 89 years of the NFL its never been done. How much longer does Shanahan have in him anyways that he might break the trend? The guy is 57 years old and he says he doesn’t want to coach until next year which would make him 58.
Learn from history or simply just repeat it.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, It Is A Superstition
You’re extrapolating a rule from a sample size of four coaches. That’s a superstition. It’s like saying that you once knew four people who started bars that failed so obviously anyone who starts a bar is doomed to failure because four people creates a rule. It’s what’s also known as an inductive fallacy (or faulty generalization).
The reasons you don’t see a lot of coaches even get to Super Bowls with two teams are a) most coaches who get their team to a Super Bowl don’t get fired by that team until they’ve shown fairly conclusively that they’re washed up and they don’t get a second job, and b) most coaches are lucky to get to even one Super Bowl. So the idea that coaches who have won a Super Bowl with one team are going to be somehow unable to win a Super Bowl with another team simply because they’ve already won a Super Bowl with somebody else has no merit. You could certainly argue that you think Mike Shanahan won’t win a Super Bowl because he’s not a very good coach any more, or because he’s too old to do so (which I don’t buy, since there have been four coaches older than Shanahan to win Super Bowls). But to say that he won’t win a Super Bowl because he already did so with another team is simply a ridiculous argument.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
And
Shanahan is 56 years old…that would make him 57 next year. Younger than three other coaches who won Super Bowls (Dick Vermeil, Weeb Ewbank, Barry Switzer) and the same age as one who did (Bill Walsh).
Learn from history or simply just repeat it.
Nice suggestion…here’s one from me. Do your research before lecturing someone else with an appeal to history. That’s what I do, after all.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I think in basketball thats referred to as a slamdunk
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
You crack me up man .... how you try an instigate...LoL
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
its the asshole in me :)
its so much easier to have an intelligent conversation with UC, but when you get down and start with the personal jabs, he’s gonna stomp ya without even trying. It’s not his fault yet some people just dont wanna learn. I’m not saying UC is always right or everyone else is always wrong, but jeesh keep it civil and real intelligent debates can come out of it all.
There has never been nothing wrong with debating until you agree to disagree on a subject.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
There's No Issues
APC’s okay…he and I appear to have found some common ground and he brought up some good points too.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Hey it was his fault he came after me....I just needed to defend myself. :)
It was UC who started it…..
I’m Kool with UC, we did find something to put the debate to rest.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 28, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
Or a hole in one.
Good you used Basketball as an analogy, because I don’t care too much about baseball.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Good Morning...just got back, but can't stay too long
First superstition is based on an irrational fact, my arguement is based on history that its never been repeated.
It’s like saying that you once knew four people who started bars that failed so obviously anyone who starts a bar is doomed to failure because four people creates a rule.
I don’t get this part? You mean as in a business? If a person fails or succeeds in a private endeavor the variable of them succeeding could mean many things. It could be a host of multiple circumstances that led to its failure such a bad location, poor customer service, lack of capital, or just poor management. Thats a bad analogy, because in the NFL your competing against only 32 other teams with only one award which means competition is alot higher since its a smaller group.
Football is nothing close to that, way too many variables have to occur in order for you to just to repeat being successful in the NFL. Like having another great QB and taking the time to develop him. Basically needing an entire organiztion to capture the same kind of magic (since were in the mystical realm of supersition) that is necessary for you to be successful again in the NFL. So in a way the whole organization has to be built right in order for it to be successful. Meaning like the QB gets all the blame if they lose, so does the HC get too much credit if they win.
Do your research before lecturing someone else with an appeal to history. That’s what I do, after all.
I base my argument on is statistics and probability. Look at the 89 years of the NFL, how many have coached in this league? and how many were successful? Why was it that only 5 coaches could repeat almost the same amount of success? ONLY 5!
Even the great Vince Lombardi couldn’t repeat it.
I look at the PROBABILITIES of the coach being successful, and use history as a refrence to support it. For Shanahan or Cowher the probability of them having the same amount of success again is not good. Because its never been done.
I have a question for you? Why is it that you can feel free to ridicule others point of view unceasingly, but seem to become very sensative when others remark on yours.
Because I was not lecturing simply stating my point, and I did my research thats how I found the facts that no coach won two Super Bowls with two different teams.
And Shanahan was born in Aug. 24, 1952. Which would make him 57 in August, and 58 in 2010.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Again
First superstition is based on an irrational fact, my arguement is based on history that its never been repeated.
Your “fact” is irrational. It’s a sweeping generalization based on a small sample size of five head coaches that you’re applying to the coaching population at large. It is an inductive fallacy, which is what makes it irrational. If you don’t understand this, I’ve even included a link for you…go read it. And you’d probably do well to read this one about how correlation does not imply causality.
I don’t get this part? You mean as in a business? If a person fails or succeeds in a private endeavor the variable of them succeeding could mean many things.
Same as a coach failing or succeeding in winning Super Bowls with two teams could be as a result of any number of things…but not because he happened to be employed with two different teams. If you want to make the claim that winning a Super Bowl with one team somehow precludes a coach from winning a Super Bowl with another, show causation. Not a sample size of five guys that you think makes a rule…because it doesn’t. That’s just correlational.
I look at the PROBABILITIES of the coach being successful, and use history as a refrence to support it.
You’re operating from a misunderstanding of probability. The probability of a coach being in more than one Super Bowl is extremely small, so by your rationale the Broncos should have fired Shanahan after his first Super Bowl win because the odds were extremely small that he’d be able to repeat the following year. But of course he did repeat because he simply bucked the odds. Similar to saying that if you’ve flipped a quarter 99 times and it’s landed on heads 49 times that it will obviously land on heads if you flip it once more to reflect the odds, when in fact it has the same chance of landing on tails that it did every other time you flipped the coin. Probability does not guarantee results. So, as long as a coach who went to a Super Bowl with one team is still a capable coach when he goes to his next team, there is nothing preventing him from winning a Super Bowl there (except the other 31 coaches in the league). This is proven by both Don Shula and Dick Vermeil (who won Super Bowls with their second team).
I have a question for you? Why is it that you can feel free to ridicule others point of view unceasingly, but seem to become very sensative when others remark on yours.
Because I get irritated with people who recite the “learn from history” line when it’s quite obvious that they’ve either done a very shallow study of history or blatantly misinterpreted it. Same as I get irritated with people who repeat the same logical fallacies over and over again even though people keep pointing them out to them. I’m not ridiculing you…I’m pointing out where your argument has problems and you’re quite obviously not paying attention.
And Shanahan was born in Aug. 24, 1952. Which would make him 57 in August, and 58 in 2010.
Great…conceded. And this supports your argument how? He’ll still have been younger than Dick Vermeil and Weeb Ewbank when they won Super Bowls and will have been the same age as Barry Switzer when he won his Super Bowl.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Probability does not guarantee results, but it does indicate things that should be avoided so as not to repeat it.
Broncos should have fired Shanahan after his first Super Bowl win because the odds were extremely small that he’d be able to repeat the following year
.
The point is not about winning multiple Super Bowls, but rather multiple Super Bowls with two different teams.
So, as long as a coach who went to a Super Bowl with one team is still a capable coach when he goes to his next team, there is nothing preventing him from winning a Super Bowl there (except the other 31 coaches in the league). This is proven by both Don Shula and Dick Vermeil (who won Super Bowls with their second team).
The two coach’s you mentioned also lost the Super Bowl with their previous team before winning the award with their second team. That would fall more on coaches being successful in their second head coaching opportunity. Like Belichick after Cleveland with NE.
Your right about age not being a critieria for judging a HC canidate, but Switzer never won the SB before so his success with the Cowboys was his first, and he was 58 when he won the trophy the age that Shanahan will be next year. It should be of some concern since these HC candiates will be countless hours trying to find an edge against the other teams. Their health may not be up to the challenge.
You could also make a case about Switzer success was helped by what JJ built. Like Seifert after Walsh.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Only If You've Shown It To Be Causal...Otherwise It's Superstition
The point is not about winning multiple Super Bowls, but rather multiple Super Bowls with two different teams.
Really? And what is the significant difference between coaches winning two Super Bowls with one team and winning two Super Bowls with two teams? What magical force would have prevented Vince Lombardi from winning a Super Bowl with the Washington Redskins that wouldn’t have prevented him from winning another one with Green Bay?
Besides colon cancer, obviously.
The two coach’s you mentioned also lost the Super Bowl with their previous team before winning the award with their second team.
So what? Were they somehow inferior coaches with their previous team? If so, how were they inferior? Are coaches who fail to win a Super Bowl with one team somehow automatically better equipped to win one with their second? If so, how are they better equipped and how are they identical to the coaches who won a Super Bowl with their first team and failed to win one with their second? You’ve lumped them all together and claimed it’s representative of the coaching population in general, so what is the common failing?
Your right about age not being a critieria for judging a HC canidate
Actually, age is a criteria for judging a head coach…it affects stamina, strategy, work ethic, health and any number of criteria. And if you wanted to make that case against Shanahan, that’s he’s kind of old for us to be hanging our hats on, I would probably be more willing to accept it (since only three coaches in NFL history have been his age or older and won a Super Bowl). I’d argue with you on it, because I don’t agree, but I think that there could be a case built for it and I’d be willing to hear that out. What I’m not willing to accept is that somehow Shanahan isn’t good enough to win a Super Bowl with someone else simply because he already won one with his previous employer. Same as I don’t believe the Seahawks were fated to lose the 2005 Super Bowl because Holmgren had already won a Super Bowl with Brett Favre in Green Bay. They lost because the refs sucked, not because Holmgren was somehow incapable of winning that game.
You could also make a case about Switzer success was helped by what JJ built. Like Seifert after Walsh.
You could, and I’d probably agree with that. But nonetheless Switzer did win a Super Bowl at the same age as Shanahan. And Vermeil and Ewbank were both older when they won theirs. And Shanahan is still an excellent coach who was undermined by his own bad decisions as general manager of the Denver Broncos so I think he is capable of winning a Super Bowl as a coach as long as he’s not also GM.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Dude it there a way we can crash a thread with these mulitple large posts?
I simply don’t have the time to continue this exchange. Its 9 am over here, and got small kids to attend to. Plus I gotta get to work.
I enjoy exchanging ideas with you man, you got some good points, but seem a little stubborn at times. A trait I too share along with my many opinions. Okay I’ll continue a little more….. I can’t resist :)
Same as I don’t believe the Seahawks were fated to lose the 2005 Super Bowl because Holmgren had already won a Super Bowl with Brett Favre in Green Bay
I wish that Holmgren did win the Super Bowl with the Seahawks that would have broken the trend, curse whatever. The similiarities of coach not winning 2 trophies with 2 teams remind me of the Dolphins perfect season. Unless someone can break the trend, will remain elusive and the debate would continue ……..“Can it be broken?”
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
I Don't Think So
I think that it’s number of comments that crashes it, not length of posts, judging by the gameday threads. Although I don’t actually know. :)
I wish that Holmgren did win the Super Bowl with the Seahawks that would have broken the trend, curse whatever.
“Curse” = superstition. I don’t buy that there’s a curse. I will buy that there’s a trend, but only because you’re talking about a sampling of five people so I don’t accept that it’s somehow indicative that nobody can win a Super Bowl with their second team just because they won one with their first. I’d buy that they can’t do it if they’re too old, or if the NFL has passed them by, or if they’re working for a terrible management, but not because they happened to be successful with a previous employer.
I also don’t buy that the Patriots were destined to lose the 2008 Super Bowl because of the Dolphins. They lost because the Giants happened to play better on the big day and beat them. That’s it. And because a perfect season is difficult to pull off anyway.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Haha...you still there?
Try Guam…Dude I’m seriously gonna get busted, but this crap is way too addicting. :)
That’s it. And because a perfect season is difficult to pull off anyway.
Kind of like doing the Lombardi dance with two different teams.
After thinking about it, maybe the reason why coaches could not repeat the same amount of success was because father time came a knocking. You figure that if you won a Super Bowl with one team, the team would like to hang on to you to see if you can repeat it. Especially if you remain competitive.
If Shananhan wants to coach again next year at 58, father time is not on his side. The body might not be able to undergo the same amount of stress the position demands.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 27, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Ah...Guam
Had a buddy in the Navy who got divorced in Guam. Worked out well for him. He got it done before the residency rules got changed. :)
After thinking about it, maybe the reason why coaches could not repeat the same amount of success was because father time came a knocking.
You got it…that’s exactly what I’m saying. :) Usually when a coach wins a Super Bowl with a team that team hangs onto him until he’s demonstrated pretty clearly that he’s not capable of getting to another Super Bowl (case in point, Tom Landry) before letting that coach go. Those five guys that we’ve been talking about all pretty much left on their own terms, though. Vermeil and Parcells retired. Holmgren and Shula left on their own as free agents. Reeves got fired, but then Reeves was a pretty terrible coach without Elway whereas Shanahan’s still been a good coach without Elway around (although not as successful).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
As For Shanahan
I could see a case for him being a little long in the tooth, but he was still a good coach in Denver until he got fired…he was just one of the worst GMs in the league too (which undermined Shanahan the coach). Put him in a situation where he’s just the coach I think he could have a major career resurgence, like Holmgren did in Seattle once he was relieved of his GM duties in 2002.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Still disagree about Shanahan continuing to do well.
Holmgren was 51 when he made the switch to Seattle, and was 57 when he made it back to the Super Bowl.
Shanahan is going to turn 58 next year, might not have enough in the tank for the long haul.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 28, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
It's A Valid Concern
And I’m also fine if the Chiefs don’t hire Shanahan because of it and go with someone younger. I’m just saying that if the Chiefs get him I’ll consider it a good hire. But (as my signature block notes) I don’t think the Chiefs will get him so it’s kind of a moot point between us. :)
Shanahan represents a known quantity. He’s a coach who you know won’t be terrible and who might be able to get you to a Super Bowl. And someone like Haley represents an unknown quantity…maybe he’ll be a horrible head coach, or maybe he’ll end up being a much more successful coach than Shanahan. Basically, I’ll trust Pioli’s judgment on it when he makes his hire then evaluate based off of how well the guy does on the field. Figure that’s fair enough. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I'm elated that Shanahan's not coming to KC
But I also think that he was a great coach back in the day. At this stage of his life I think the game might have passed him by.
Another team will make a play on him for sure, but I believe that that will not be wise for the stability of the franchise long term.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 28, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
And
Even the great Vince Lombardi couldn’t repeat it.
That would be because he died after his first season in his second head coaching job, after leading the Redskins to their first winning season in 15 years.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
repeat Superbowl wins with two different teams I meant to say.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 26, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Nutria King
I was really preparing myself for the chiefs to sign Shannahan. I thought I could do it, but knew in my heart I have despised this rat-face asshole for years. How could so easliy forget the years of torment this man brought to my life. Im glad the Chiefs wont get him. Screw Shannahan and screw the Donkeez
We Weren't Calling You Names
We were just pointing out that your hatred of Shanahan was irrational, ridiculous and unproductive.
If he were interested in coming here I’d still be happy to have him because he could help the Chiefs win. That’s because the team’s success means more to me than a personal grudge against an individual. Same way I’d have been willing to give Herm a chance if this team had show improvement this season.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Shanahan thinks the thought of coaching the Chiefs is funny.
I think it’s funny that at one time a head coach and quarterback both looked like their team’s mascot. Nay.
by timmer on Jan 26, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
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