According to scouts, Stafford lacks top pocket passer size and makes several questionable decisions...

According to scouts, Stafford lacks top pocket passer size and makes several questionable decisions throwing the ball. Sanchez has limited experience behind center and only spent one full season as a starter. Sources from USC who came to Mobile said they fear Sanchez may turn out to be nothing more than a "one year wonder."

Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez discussed at Senior Bowl - NFL - SI.com

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thats why we

should just draft crabtree and get a QB in the later rounds

by chiefs8288 on Jan 22, 2009 4:00 PM CST reply actions 2 recs

rec'd

If there’s a special player like Crabtree available, you can’t pass him up. Take the best player available, we’re not in any kind of position to be turning away guys like him.

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Jan 22, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions

There's a crabtree in nearly every draft

Taking a WR in the top 10 isn’t a smart move.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions

Agreed

And, like you said earlier DJ, how much of a risk are you willing to take on a guy that touches the ball maybe 7-8 times a game?

by Joel Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions

Always Hurt

There is now way we draft Michael Crabtree…. Why? He is always limping off the freaking field. It doesn’t matter how fast he is …if he is never on the field. Seriously!

The only saving cause or grace for this possibility is that Piloi did draft Wes Welker out of Texas Tech.

I sure hope not!! The Wide Receiver out of North Carolina will be a better Pro than Crabtree!

by ColoradoChief on Jan 22, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions

Welker was drafted by Miami

fyi

by KCScuba on Jan 22, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions

Aaron Curry or consider trading down...

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions

create plays to get him in the open or use him in the return game also. hes the kind of player that can get the ball alot. plus if you have crabtree, dbowe, gonzo, and bradley. thats a recieving set to be recon with

by chiefs8288 on Jan 22, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions

I'm kinda leaning

Towards a QB under the radar in the later rounds and going DE or OT with the #3 pick. I wouldn’t mind Sanchez in the second round, but I don’t want to use our #3 pick on him.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 22, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions

There aren't any QBs in the later rounds

This is a bad year for QBs.

You have Stafford, Sanchez and nobody else even worth considering unti the 4th round and then everyones a project QB. Well if we want a late round project, we already got Thigpen.

Staffords the only option in my eyes. He will be a quality QB with the right coaching.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions

I've got a couple names that might go in the late 1st or in 2nd round.

Nate Davis (Ball St.) , Nathan Brown (Central Arkansas), Josh Freeman (Kansas St.)

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions

I thought we were talking about quality QBs....

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions

Why these QB's are not quality in your opinion?

Or are we talking about only 1st round prospects?

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions

Mid round QBs

The only reason Freeman is being talked about as a 2nd rounder is because of his size. He is definately a project and would not be going that high otherwise.

Nate Davis is an interesting prospect because he makes plays, but everything else is going against him. His size, his delivery, everything. Will he still be able to make plays in the NFL where talent is much better or will it end up getting him in trouble? Time will tell. But I’m not comfortable staking the future of the franchise on him any more than I am Thigpen.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions

Davis is the kind of guy

That you draft as a backup, like Brady was picked, and when he gets his chance he proves himself. He’s not the kind of guy you draft and say: “In two years we want this guy to be our starter”, which is what the Chiefs need.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions

Huh? Aren't all the QB's drafted with those expectations to eventually start,

otherwise why would you take them in the first place. I think in which round you draft the QB comes with a resonable amount of expectation. Say a QB taken in rounds 1 & 2 you would have greater expectations than say a QB selected in rounds 5 through 7.

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

QB

There are no decent QB’s in this years draft. I agree we should wait and grab one in the later rounds but we need to get a vet to teach him the ropes. I think that anyone in their right mind would think that we have what we need. I like Tyler and think that someday he’ll be a decent QB. But there are no other QBs on this team.

by kcfaninsandiego on Jan 22, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions

Sanchez

dosen’t have the experence. He’s entering the draft now because if he waits until next year he will have more competition. The guy has only 1 year at the position.

by kcfaninsandiego on Jan 22, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions

And Cassel had none

The point being that the days of being able to somewhat accurately predict what we’re going to do is over. Pioli is in no means conventional.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions

That's true

But I’d still take “trading down” for $500, Alex

I know it’s tough to do from 3 – but if there’s a way, I think he’ll find it

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by Maddogmag on Jan 22, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions

For sure

I’m just more skeptical of that happening. Wish we could though.

Actually, I wish we could get completely out of the 1st and stockpile 2nd and 3rds.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

Right on

I agree. I think that too much money could be spent on a 1st rounder that could be a bust.

by kcfaninsandiego on Jan 22, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions

You and every GM out there

NO team wants a top 5 pick because of the money involved.

The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!

by IISaiNtII on Jan 22, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions

Can't remember where I heard it

But I agree with the argument that Larry Fitzgerald’s playoff run might be quite helpful in allowing the Chiefs to trade down. If teams fall in love with that type of WR, and then see Crabtree as the next LF, they may want (or better yet, have) to jump up to 3 to get him. Nothing is set in stone, but Seattle has every reason to take him at #4.

"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman

by Maddogmag on Jan 22, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions

Comical

The way the USC people have turned on Sanchez after he went against daddy’s wishes and came out.

NOTE to future QB recruits, if you don’t plan on staying in school 4 years, don’t go to USC, GET OVER IT PETE, you have probably the best (and easiest) big time coaching job in football. Go to your next 5 star recruit, and quit bashing your last one.

I don’t want anything to do with Sanchez at #3, and I doubt the Pioli snags him there, but this is a solid prospect, one that will almost certainly go top 10. Will he be a star? Who knows, but he has about as much chance as the other top 10 picks over the last decade, which is about 50-50.

by kcsno56 on Jan 22, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions

Draft Order

Some of you may remember the detail I was going into over the draft order heading into the last weekend of the season…as it turns out, STL SOS was 1 game worse than ours…

I was worried, b/c even then I figured big boy LT Smith from Bama would be thier choice, and all indications are thats where he’s headed…a shame, he’d have been great at RT next year for us.

The most logical pick is probably Curry, simply b/c he’s a top 5 talent at the biggest position of need.

by kcsno56 on Jan 22, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions

We need to grab crabtree, or o lineman, end, or linebacker or trade

I wouldn’t mind crab tree..

I think it’s fair to say that without Fitzgerald the cards don’t make it past the first round..I don’t mean disrespect because they are a really good team..But their OC’s performance is in large part due to fitzgerald and the experience and talent of kurt warner..

Al saunders did more with even less talent..We did not have a single premier wr..Eddie was our best. Tony was our only hall of famer..Priest had never been a starter before..Sure we had an outstanding line but Al did it for longer..Haley is young tho so I don’t know

by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 22, 2009 4:59 PM CST reply actions

I know many don't, but I still like Stafford

He played very well with very little supporting cast in Georgia save Knowhon Marino. I see him doing very well when he is surrounded by NFL talent. Sure he makes risky throws sometimes, what young QB doesn’t?

I strongly believe Stafford will still be available at #3 (I’m telling you, Detroit is taking an OT at #1 overall) and if he is we should take him.

If Stafford is off the board (which he won’t be because as I already explained, Detroit is going to take an OT at #1!) then of course we WANT to trade down, but its incredibly unlikely we will be able to since the only position teams typically trade up that high to go after are QBs.

In the unlikely event Stafford is gone (Stop saying he will be! He won’t! Detroit is going OT!) and the more likely event that we are unable to trade down, Curry is our man.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions

I like Stafford to, but I think he's still too risky to pick at 3.

Did a little looking into the JR. QB’s who came out….and none did well consistently. The one’s I found who had longevity were all SR. QB’s out of college.

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions

Yes, but players aren't waiting till after their Senior year to come out anymore

Everyone comes out as a Junior. Hell, Bradford very nearly came out as a Sophmore.

Stafford is a three year starter. Thats about all you can ask for these days.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions

I would take Stafford over Sanchez

every day of the week

Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CID avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Jan 22, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions

Just because there coming out, doesn't mean we need to take one.

Other QB’s can be found in later rounds.

Nathan Brown is a 4 year starter for Central Arkansas, so is Willie Tuitama who also started for 4 years. Both are Seniors, I would go with the higher probability of succes over a risky one, especially that high at #3.

I was gonna release this info with my QB draft list, but I’ll give you a little bit now.

All Senior QB’s out of college: Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Steve McNair, Doug Williams, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman.

Junior QB’s who declared early: Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Mike Vick, Jeff George, Andre Ware, Timm Rosenbach, Quincy Carter.

Look at the names and you’ll start to see the facts over the potential.

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions

Forgot to include Tom Brady, Peyton & Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlisberger of course.

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions

I think

Graham Harallel will turn out to be twice the QB Sanchez ever will be

by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 22, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions

I like Harrell also, but I think that his arm might not be quality enough for the NFL.

The combine will determine that for sure. Harrell does for sure have the experience to outclass Sanchez, but Mark might have more of the physical talents. But the game is not base only on physical attributes is it?

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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions

Kurt Warner

definitly proves that

by thechiefsarrow on Jan 22, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions

Kiper has

Us taking Sanchez at 3, and then Maclin going to Oakland….If this would happen, I need to make sure there are no guns in my house on draft day

Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CID avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Jan 22, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions

i see us

either taking Crabtree as he is the BPA or trading down with someone who wants him because Seattle Will pick him up at #4 if he is there. He may be a WR but i believe he is the best 1st round talent in the draft this year, and you don’t pass up talent.

by KCCheeze on Jan 22, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

I'm telling you

We are NOT drafting Crabtree. Drafting a WR this high in the draft (pre-20s) is a move that teams like the Lions make. In 12 years of drafts Pioli has never drafted a WR in the 1st round and I can guarantee he isn’t going to start now, especially not with so many needs, INCLUDING a guy to actually throw the ball to the WR.

Also remember that Pioli has said he is not about collecting talent. They are not always going to go with BPA. They are looking for guys that will mesh with the team, not just the biggest name on the board when they get there.

by ChiefDJ on Jan 22, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions