Rumor: 'Sounds like' Shanahan will Coach the Kansas City Chiefs
by Chris Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 6:38 AM CST
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Jack Harry of NBC in Kansas City says the Chiefs should name their replacement head coach by Friday. And he says it could be former Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan.
NBC Action Sports has learned that the Chiefs are getting very close to naming their new head coach.
While we can't confirm it, we're hearing that it sounds like Mike Shanahan could be the replacement for Herm Edwards. We should find out by Friday.
This is by far the the hardest the rumor mill has ever churned for the Kansas City Chiefs. If Harry is right, I'm sure I could learn to love Mike Shanahan. My big question is: Who does Jack Harry know at Arrowhead that others don't? I can't imagine he has the best connections there as of late, considering his diatribes against Carl Peterson.
Remember, it was Jack Harry who said back on Jan. 13th that Mike Shanahan had "reached out" to the Chiefs.
For now, we're sitting on this rumor until we hear any official news.
H/T Eric Allen, RoyalChief8569 and GoShootergo.
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I don't know how to feel about this....
On one hand I’m glad it’s a winning coach with experience, on the other hand I hate all things Broncos. Does this mean we start running bootlegs and the zone running attack?
that might not be a bad thing
if they decide to stick with tyler thigpen. since he does use his feet soo well
I kind of thought you might not be too happy
"If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home."-Herm
Don’t know what to think about this. Obviously the man can coach, but will he be a prima donna when it comes to working with the new GM? Do I think Shanny can be a winner again in the NFL? Certainly. But here???
He definitely can be IMO
It’s going to be tough but if we can get over the former hate we’ve had for the man, he should be a great combo with Pioli.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 7:03 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, not my first choice either
It will be tough to swallow. But really, what other choice do we have if he becomes the head coach?
by Chris Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions
Tough to swallow? I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to hold anything down if its true.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 7:22 AM CST up reply actions
I have no problem
with Shanny coming here. Its just a tough pill to swallow. i realize hes and upgrade over Germ but its going to be weird to look at his orange horse face on the sidelines.
Nothing to get over....Will never like Shanahan if he's our choice for HC.
No Coach has ever won two Superbowl with two different teams. Learn from history otherwise the Chiefs will continue to repeat its failures. If you still think that there’s hope that that fact can be broken your just kidding yourself into believing some fallacy.
IDevelop our own QBOTF, so no to Cassel and and a HELL NO! to Shanahan! HALEY! Haley! HALEY!
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by aPacificChief on Jan 23, 2009 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
So if NO other coach was able to repeat their past success
of winning a Lombardi trophy with two different that would mean, NO to Cowher also.
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by aPacificChief on Jan 23, 2009 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
Actually
What that indicates is that the number of coaches who’ve been good enough to make it to a Super Bowl and then been fired by their team is a short one. So you’re looking at a small sample size and assuming it forms an rule. It doesn’t.
In fact, Holmgren was good enough to make it to Super Bowls with two different teams, and certainly had his team playing well enough to win the 2005 Super Bowl. Don Shula actually lost the Super Bowl with his first team, then went on to win multiple Super Bowls with his second team, the Dolphins which goes to show that coaches can win Super Bowls with their second team, even if they went to a Super Bowl with their first team. Your argument is based on nothing but superstition.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
let alone the "perfect" season!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Superstition?
Irrational belief: an irrational, but usually deep-seated belief in the magical effects of a specific action or ritual, especially in the likelihood that good or bad luck will result from performing it
Hardly a superstition if history supports the theory. Facts speak for themselves. Look at the coaches the ones who won the award were never able to repeat their past success. The other coaches who won the superbowl with their second team was after they had lost with their first team.
So you’re looking at a small sample size and assuming it forms an rule
The reason why it is a small sample size is because the feat in itself is not an easy accomplishment to achieve. So that further backs up the theory that we are wasting our time with Shanahan. If Shanahan never won the award we have a greater chance for success.
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by aPacificChief on Jan 24, 2009 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
Also, of the 89 years of the existence of the NFL.
only 5 coaches were able to make it to two Superbowls! Much less win both times.
89 YEARS Hardly seems to be a small sample size.
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by aPacificChief on Jan 24, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
He would be a huge upgrade over Herm
by Chris Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 7:04 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Uh, yeah.
That’s great and all, but how do the rest of the picks stack up. I seem to remember most of the Broncos’ drafts being pretty abysmal over the Shanahan years.
Herm Edwards is Clark Hunt's guy. Herm and Carl forced Clark to choose between their differing visions on how to rebuild the Chiefs, and we all see who got their walking papers. Herm's going to be walking the sidelines at Arrowhead in 2009, and possibly even beyond, no matter who the new General Manager is.
If This Turns Out To Be True
I honestly love the hire. I think Shanahan’s an excellent coach who was only undone by his inability to be a personnel guy and I suspect that not having to be a GM will be a Holmgren-style revival for him (like what happened after Holmgren got removed as GM…after which he became a constant division winner and went to a Super Bowl).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Agreed
I’ll get over my hatred for him because he’s a Bronco very, very fast. I think this would be an outstanding move and put this offseason up there as one of the better ever on paper.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
I agree 100%
Take away the fact that he’s from the Broncos and Shanahan is by far the best coach available this offseason.
Herm Edwards - the new Art Shell.
I agree
Good offensive mind, always seems to have a good team. Maybe being freed from personnel decisions will improve his coaching.
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Dude!??!.......... I think I just vomited out my nose?
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
I would prefer Haley.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 7:20 AM CST up reply actions
Teflon quarterbacks
One thing I can say about Shanny is he knows how to raise a QB right. He went to the AFC title game a few years ago with Jake “the snake” Plummer. Used to be the O coordinator in San Fran. A quarterbacks coach before that. I say hire him, let him draft whatever QB he wants, and fire him in 2 years for revenger purposes. I hate Denver that much.
I don't understand these reactions
I think Shanahan could be a good fit. He was trying to do too much in Denver when he held GM responsibilities. I don’t think Pioli would hire him unless he strongly felt that they could work together well. Shanahan could concentrate on what he does best: being a coach that can get his teams consistently to the playoffs.
As for the division
Cant an argument be made that this would give us a distinct advantage in our own division. Who knows the AFC West better than Shanny?
Excellent point
I’m going to have to do some research but when was the last time a head coach switched teams within the division, within the same off season?
by Chris Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
or coached 3 teams in one division
"If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home."-Herm
Could it be
that this would be the more shrewd selection for Pioli, i.e., choose the strongest coach within your division to not only strengthen your own team but to weaken one of the strongest opponents within your own division?
Raider Coach?
It is actually funny that he was a coach on the Raider’s staff (88 – 89) then Denver, and now the Chiefs! Oh yeah, he could kick some serious AFC W butt. I have detested, yet respected, Shanny as a coach, so I could learn to like him, as long as the ego stays in Denver with the Stincos.
I know he would be a better HC than Herm, but I am really torn over the entire situation.
1. Keep Herm for the last year and bring in good assistants, then evaluate the staff with possibility of hiring Cowher or someone else next year?
2. Fire Herm and hire a new young high-speed HC?
3. Fire Herm and hire a freshly fired HC?
Historically, what is the win/loss probabilities of hiring a re-tread HC?
On #1
I think a new coach would want their own staff.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
Excellent point
Now he has a double chip on his shoulder from his past AFC West teams. This could actually be awesome. Here’s for hope right?
by NorthwestChief on Jan 22, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
On #2
I don’t know of any new young high-speed HC that are available that would be up to the challenges the Chiefs face. I think it merits a HC with experience and respect among the league that could provide the necessary leadership and skill set that a young HC hasn’t developed yet. Pioli doens’t strike me as a guy to take huge inherent risks like that; certainly not for his first big decision as GM.
Let's be honest
If he turns us ito winners, we won’t care where he came from. We’re going to love him. If he doesn’t, we still won’t care where he came from. We’re going to hate him.
That's Pretty Much It
It’s all about the wins and the losses.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Just remember that most of us don't like old shanny
because (1) he was the coach of a division rival and (2) he was good (at least as a coach, not so much a gm). if shanny sucked as a coach, we wouldn’t hate the guy, we would call him tom cable.
Beat the Donkeys!!
Exactly.
As much as I absolutely hated Elway I would have been hard to hate him if he had decided to wear red and gold. Okay I would have loved the guy. And Shanny will be no different if it comes to that.
If We'd Gotten Elway From The Broncos
I’d had been jumping up and cheering…pretty much the same as I was when we got Marcus Allen from the Raiders.
The rivalries are for game day…once the players or coaches leave those rival teams, I’m glad if the Chiefs sign them as long as they’re good.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
More Like "Mercenary"
All I care about is that they’re good at what they do*.
*That excludes cheats like Roid-O.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Dang right...
It is a business….for players….
And fans should take in anyone that can help us win, lol
That is why Neil Smith can be in our Ring of Fame after going to the Broncs to win the big one….
Elway
I hated him and respected at the same time. I think in the end the respect overtook the hate because damn he was good.
I dunno.
I personally hate him for a variety of reasons, including:
- the way he always looks like he’s just got done fake-baking.
- that smirk when he wins.
- zone-blocking.
- that he coached the Raiders.
- that he coached the Broncos.
- that his teams suck unless they have guys named J… John… Elww… oh dammit, you know who I mean.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Try being a chief fan
in colorado. To the donkee fans here Elway STILL shits thunder in Denver. I hate shanny as a bronco, but id love him as a Chief. Oh and the Denver news is also reporting this rumor.
I like soup!!!
Nope ....those are the Broncos fans!
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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
I just heard
from a co-worker whose sister works next to a guy that’s brother works for Greyhound. Marty was getting off the bus. Dunno if he was just passing through KC or if he’s staying for a while.
Yawn
Who’s next on the list now that Marty, Bill, Haley, Shanny are out of the way in rumor land? I guess there’ll be serious reports about Chucky soon.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
Actually
This one’s legit….Mike Holmgren invested in a local KC restaurant.
I think that Waffle House off 71. Pretty much guarantees he’ll be in red next season.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 22, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
HAHA!
Marty takes a bus!?
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Obviously he takes the bus
With everyone watching KCI airport for the executive jets, he sneaks in and out at the bus terminal.
Speaking of which, if anyone sees my wife at KCI soon, despite her knowledge of defensive formations she is not interested in Gunther’s job.
Blame my wife!
Am I the only one....
That is not opposed to Mike Shanahan as a coach at all….?
I have no reason to dislike him for being the coach of the Bronco’s….You know why?! Cuz he ISNT THAT ANYMORE….
I find just as much logic in a Cowboys fan being against him because he USED to be the 49ers OC….
He is a great coach…with too much bronzer….
I hope the rumor is true
Agreed
Its like UCrawford said about Marcus Allen. As soon as he wore the red and gold, he was my favorite player.
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Hey Herm lovers and Shannahan haters
“Get over it”…Herm’s gone either way.
Shannahan would be a great hire. I’ll take a SB winning coach over one that’s either been to the playoffs and lost or one that’s never been close to the show.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
Dude why gotta cause trouble with them bad words....?
Sorry to all those Shanny SELL OUTs!
What coaches have won Super Bowls with two different teams?
In: Super Bowl
Answer
As of the 2007 season, as far as head coaches are concerned, no head coach has won Super Bowls with different teams. Five head coaches have coached two different teams into the Super Bowl but neither won with two different teams.
1) Don Shula was the head coach the Baltimore Colts that lost Super Bowl III and of the Miami Dolphins that won Super Bowls VII and VIII.
2) Bill Parcells was the head coach of the New York Giants that won Super Bowls XXI and XXV and the New England Patriots that lost Super Bowl XXXI.
3) Mike Holmgren was the head coach of the Green Bay Packers that won Super Bowl XXXI and the Seattle Seahawks that lost Super Bowl XL.
4) Dan Reeves: Denver Broncos and Atlanta Falcons.
5) Dick Vermeil: Philadelphia Eagles and St. Louis Rams.
(Raises right arm with hand clinch in a fist) SOLIDARITY! NO to the Rat.
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by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
So because a coach hasn't won on two teams
We should not hire him because there’s a conspiracy in the league that it’s never going to happen?
I could care less about that stat. Records are made to be broken. If you don’t like Shanny, than you need to hate Marcus Allen for coming from the Raiders and Neil Smith for defecting to the Bronco’s. It goes both ways.
Besides, it’s a false rumor anyways.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
It's Not Even A Stat
It’s a superstition based on a small sample size.
If the evidence showed that coaches who’ve been to Super Bowls with one team have never gone to a Super Bowl with a second, then I’d say he might have a point. But Don Shula’s career pretty clearly refutes that.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
What?
So I need to get rid of my lucky rabbit’s foot and my lucky jersey of Grbac? ;)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
Wouldn't say its a consipacy, but through the history of the NFL its never...NEVER been done.
Learn from History or just repeat it.
Small Sample size because the feat is already difficult enough to accomplish in the fist place. Meaning with all the great coaches throughout the NFL NO ONE was able to accomplish the same success. EVEN the great Vince Lombardi couldn’t make it to another superbowl much less win another one.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 24, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah
I hate the broncos twice as much as the faiders and bolts, but Shanny was just coaching a team. I want Shanny even over Cower and it looks like he may land in K.C.
Now If this is confirmed give me Sanchez and it’s a WRAP , YA dig!!!!
Bronco for life
Unless he wins MULTIPLY super bowls with the Chiefs he will always be remembered here and especially around the rest of the league as a Bronco who coached John Elway to all those super bowls.
Being selfish I’d rather have a coach that we can call our own and win championships with.
Yeah
so we’ll take him AK. He’s worlds above Herm, and the stats don’t lie. I hope he does win multiple SB’s if he comes here.
True
let’s just pick some more busts for the D- line.. Oh ,and if you think Sanchez makes it out of the first round you’re SICK.
I agree
He will not make it even into the bottom 3rd of the 1st round in my estimation…
Too many teams need a QB including us….
Chicago, Minny, et al
My point is,
any position can be a bust. IMO ,Turk and Tank have not played up to their draft status. At some point we’ve got to stop being puss and take a first round QB, or we can go for guys like Brodie.
...
Drafting a bust that is at LEAST rated that high is one thing…(some of ours dont apply as this, that is not what i am saying.)
Reaching for someone that badly simply because you need a QB is completely different…
Well
IMO, Sanchez is worth a first round pick. You take a chance with every pick in the draft. Nobody knows that even Dorsey is going to pan out. So why not take a chance for the leader of the football team.
First round...
Does not mean Top 5…
Should the Chiefs have picked Antoine Cason at 5 last year? He was a first round pick….
You dont reach like that…
Sanchez is a project QB anyway….this years QB class is embarassing…
Sanchez
Has started 16 games….
ALMOST literally for every good game he had, he had an equally bad one….
He did?
Such as? I watch PAC10 football like a hawk, Sanchez balled all year. Save a tipped INT in the end zone just before the half against OSU and this guy is a national champion and Heisman winner.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 22, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Looking again at his stats...
He had one bad game, against ASU when he threw 3 picks. Still, they won 28-0.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 22, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying take him with #3...
but saying for every good game he had an equally bad game is ludicrous.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jan 22, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Because we've got Thiggy.
He might be the QBoF. He might not. This is his year to prove it.
And, either way, we’ll be looking at guys like Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford, and Colt McCoy in next years draft who have far more experience, far more upside, and far more flat-out talent than Sanchez has.
Herm Edwards is Clark Hunt's guy. Herm and Carl forced Clark to choose between their differing visions on how to rebuild the Chiefs, and we all see who got their walking papers. Herm's going to be walking the sidelines at Arrowhead in 2009, and possibly even beyond, no matter who the new General Manager is.
Appear to have more talent...
because, well, they never have played a legit defense. Bradford looked great against that SEC d…
I'll take Shanny any day
Over herm. We would have an edge over the donkeys and everyone in our division. Yes I hated him in denver and was glad to see that he was let go, but I’ll take ferret face any day as long as he wins.
by kcfaninsandiego on Jan 22, 2009 8:39 AM CST reply actions
Too Much Hate....
3 things
1. He is a winner, that is why so many of you dispise him
2. Once you get to the essence of what he does (Coaching vice G.M.ing), he will succeed
3. The Donkeys will be paying a SIGNIFICANT amount of money to have them Coach and beat them….
Bottom line, he gets a good DC in there and focuses on coaching, he will, in time, be successful. Plus, I bet Marcus was pretty hated back in the day before he came to play for the Chiefs.
Finally, I lived in Denver for 4 years and this would absolutely kill their fans. My Colorado friends are calling me all pissed with just the thought of Mike in KC.
Peace
by Phalz212 on Jan 22, 2009 8:40 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
My Colorado friends are calling me all pissed with just the thought of Mike in KC!
…..for everything else….there’s MasterCard.
I'm telling you..........
if Shanahan comes here, he is going to be gunning for the Broncos. Broncos, hold onto you ass, because Shanahan will rip it off and hand it to you on multiple occasions. if it happens, I am totally okay with this hire.
PFT
Now reporting the same rumor….
They better be, Im sure many of us sent Florio the link, lol…
Let’s see what comments that gets…
Would be a great hire
Shannahan is a smart coach, a known commodity…I’ll take him over any unproven coordinator any day. Bringing him in would also make it more likely that Tony G will want to stick around for another couple years (and make it more likely we could land some good free agents).
Only real concern is that his ego would get in the way of working with Pioli. No doubt that he’s a genius of coach offensively.
I agree about TG
With no evidence to support myself…
Just guessing it would be a sign of good things to come if he was made HC
Not doubting you but..
would like to know your rationalle for thinking that Tony G. would be more inclined to stay in KC if Shanny was HC.
Just guessing....
….but I think bringing in a proven guy like Shanny would signal to him (and others) that the team is setting itself up to rebuild quickly. I think Tony wants to stay in KC, but obviously wants to be on a competitive team as well.
Shanny to the rescue
I was looking forward to Haley…but how can you argue with Shanny? It’s karma, it’s Vader returning from the darkside to the light. It’s a blade in the guts of the Broncs. God I love it so.
WOW!
I swear every morning when I hit up the website a new coach is rumored to be coming to KC. By tomorrow Vince Lombardi will be the name associated with the Chiefs. With that being said, I’ll take Shanahan over Haley, Herm, Ferentz, etc. I think with him focusing on coaching and not being a GM, he will be extremely successful. If Pioli is what we think he is (Dennis Green moment then the combination should work well. What concerns me about Shanny is his choices for DC. Hopefully we can pick up a hungry up and coming assistant waiting for the opportunity. They need to look at the teams with successful defenses (ravens, steelers, etc.) and snatch up an assistant that knows how to run the system.
I think your right in one way
Vince Lombardi will be the name associated with the Chiefs
As in the Lombardi Trophy!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
NO SHANNY
Mike Shanahan has not won since John Elway and Terrel Davis left who cares if you win a lot of games he Elway to to win.
by Chiefs fan in donkey land on Jan 22, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions
Yea...
And Walsh needed Montana…?
And Noll needed Bradshaw?
Lombardi – Starr?
I am not comparing him to those coaches…But to say that is actually quite ridiculous…
Agree!
Coaches need good players around them. The ones that have won without great QBs had a great defense and/or running game.
This isn't very Steelers-like.
If Clark’s model franchise is the Steelers, I would like to see the Chiefs go younger with their head coach and hire a more Tomin-like guy in terms of age and enthusiasm, a guy who will be here ten years or more if he’s a success. Shanny could be a disaster along the lines of George Seifert in Carolina.
I’ve mentioned this before about Jack Harry, but what a joke that guy is. Somebody needs to remind him he is a sports reporter in Kansas City and get his ego in check. Somebody also needs to remind him of basic tenants of journalism, that you do actually confirm things with a second source before you report them. Karen Kornacki has more credibility.
Can't really compare
I don’t believe Seifert is as good a coach as Shanahan. He inherited a good SF team. Although Shanahan has not won a SB since Elway he did have the Broncos close with Jake Plummer but they lost to the Steelers who went on to win it all. I believe the thinking with Shanahan is to get a proven coach to get the players and city on board. We are not in the same situation as the Steelers where when Tomlin took over.
I agree
If he was a Siefert that would have shown in Denver…or Oakland…
He has had competitive teams…without Elway
My Question is....
How does Jack Harry of all people get this “info”, and Len Dawson who as a former member of the team not? Wouldn’t it stand to reason that Len would have more sources on the inside than just a garden variety sports reporter?
I say if this is true and Shanny comes to town I will welcome him with open arms. I just hope that for the love of God he brings a good DC, and get’s rid of the dead weight on the team. Cough, Cough Brokie Croyle
The second best tight end in the record books
(Shannon Sharpe) , played for Shanahan so he knows how to work that position. That shouldn’t be a problem for TGonz. I think our running game would take off because Shanahan has been very good with the zone blocking scheme at making lesser running backs look good. Add some young guns vying to be the starting quarterback and the offense should be looking good if he took the job. The defense, however, would need a decent coordinator or we would be up the creek.
Isn't anybody worried
about the defense if Shanahan is the coach? Our D needs some serious help and the Denver D these last few years has been terrible. Reports were that one of the things that caused the Denver owner to want to make a move was Shanahan’s claim that he would not change D coordinators after this season even with how bad they performed. I would feel much better with a D minded head coach and keep Chan to run the offense.
Ten sacks in a season! For crying out loud that's what I used to average per game using DT in Techmo Bowl!
I just have a hard time believing
that Shanahan is ready to play second fiddle in the decision making department after having a reputation as being such a dictator in Denver. That’s why I don’t think this will happen. I’ll trust Pioli’s judgement though. If he thinks they’ll make a good team I’ll trust him. I just think it’s more likely he goes with someone new that will be “his guy”.
Ten sacks in a season! For crying out loud that's what I used to average per game using DT in Techmo Bowl!
I hear you
it’s hard to get a tiger to change his stripes, but then again, without the personnel matters to distract, a pure coaching effort could be compelling. Who knows though. All this speculation is making my brain hurt.
NO FREAKING WAY
Yea! just what we need. A overrated coach who can not bring with him his reason for having success in his other location(Elway). What a creep!!!
vajazz24
Say it aint so
I cant believe my fellow Chief fans. Shanahan in KC? Please God NO. All he has done since Elgay left is put a bad D on the field and choke late in the season. Remeber the Donkeys loosing to the 49ers(at home) a couple years back to let Herm and the Chiefs squeak into the playoffs. He is garbage!
I love Jack Harry as much as the next guy...
….but the dude will report ANYTHING he hears. The day Carl Peterson was fired he reported that Bill Kuharich was the “top pick” to replace him. The next night he reported that “Marty Schottenheimer was spotted at KCI” (because Marty wouldn’t fly on a private jet, let alone most of the interviews/meetings were likely held in DALLAS, NOT KC). I like Harry, but I have found that what substance he has in his personal commentaries, he lacks in full coverage and accountability.
Not trying to be a ney-sayer…just saying that just because Jack Harry reported it, doesn’t mean ANYTHING from it will actually materialize.
Went To Mile High Report Site
They seem to know about as much as we do about this rumor which is not much. They just picked up the link of the Jack Harry report from NBC 41. I haven’t checked their local news media for info yet.
I just hope this isn’t another Flavor of the day report! Last week was Spag, and McDaniels, This week its been Parcels, Haley and Shanahan. Lets just hope it winds of soon.
By the way has anyone considered that Herm may be fired as HC but the reason we haven’t heard it is because he’s being offered another position in the front office like maybe scout or some position like that? Just a thought.
Thought the same thing!
I actually thought that they might be working something out like that for him. If not both him and his son are gone!
Interesting
I’d be happy with that, but don’t know if he would be. I’d like to see him be out Secondary Coach, but again, I can’t see him staying after being demoted from HC.
Yeah but...
I have to think that something like that has to be in the works. Why would he stay around just waiting to be fired. Well I guess if he quits he doesn’t get the money as opposed to being fired but this guy is always talking about his pride and his last name and how that means a lot to him. I don’t see him hanging around just to collect a check.
I wrote a post about that and still have a black eye for mentioning it!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Jan 15
I see a different scenario now that I watched the press conference twice
1) Herm Edwards is a fine man and has the ability to evaluate talent, mostly Def Backs
2) Herm Edwards I think would be a great position coach with the Def Backs
3) Herm Edwards in the end will be a team player, which takes me to #4
4) Listening to Clark and Scott, I got a sense that they are going to try something a little unusual. I think they are going to sit down with Herm as indicated and talk about the team and it’s direction. Scott will then tell Herm what he sees happening and being head coach of the Chiefs is no longer in the mix for Herm. He will then offer him an opportunity as a position coach, Dir of Pro Personnel (Ray Farmers job) or a scouting position. Clark and Scott have respect for the man himself and will not come away with just an outright firing. He will be offered a chance to stay on in some capacity, hence staying with the "rebuild". In that way he will still be able to hold some of the credit when this is accomplished.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
dream outcome, but who is the HC then?
dream outcome, but who is the HC then?
I agree with you on all that, but not sure if the NFL is a place you can offer that and hold your credibility as an organization; like you are too nice to fire anyone…
Anyway, it will all work out within a week or so.
GO CHIEFS!
So far
it looks like just a rumor. But, being a Broncos fan, I would have to congratulate you if it is true, and curse inwardly. One thing I always enjoyed when facing rival AFCW teams was knowing Shanny was on our sideline. :(
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
Team performance vs. selling tickets
I think this coaching decision will tell us a lot about how Pioli operates.
Two ways to go with this one as I see it…
A. You get a tactician, mastermind, genius type of coach if you want to win games and ultimately be respected. (Haley or another unknown young capable coach that won’t make a huge splash.)
B. However, you pick a big name if you want people to think highly of you regardless of the long-term outcome. (Shanahan or in my dreams, Parcells or Cowher.)
I await his decision…
CB
Caption for the picture from Mike Shanahan
“I knew at that moment Pat Bowlen would fire my ass…Herm and the Chiefs beat us? I began looking at homes in Loch Lloyd that night.”
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
First off i hate the chefs you may or may not get our coach but get this straight you will never see a super bowl anytime soon 2050 maybe. for the record we OWN you guys this is BRONCOS COUNTRY
by broncosovercheifs on Jan 22, 2009 4:59 PM CST reply actions
Bite me donkey boy!!:)
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
Didn't one of our wins come from you guys? Hands down we dominated you guys. :)
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 22, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
OK, lets rumble Jackass
As bad as KC was, we beat your asses in Arrowhead, and damn near took the one in the hellhole you call Denver. The difference in that game was Shanahan can make second half adjustments to the gameplan, Herm can’t. I hope once Herm is fired he becomes the HC for your Denver Donkey Show. Ever notice how Donkey Show fans are just like illiterate Dallas Plowboys fans? BTW, please tell me where the hell Donkey Show Country is. I like to avoid large populations of inbred, mayonaise sandwich eating, gap-toothed sister humpers. You are supposed to spit not swallow your Copenhagen… among other things.
Mike Shanahan to be names Chiefs new head coach tomorrow
Herm Edwards is gone and Mike Shanahan is going to be named the Chiefs new head coach. Cant wait for it to happen. This will be a huge move for the Chiefs to make
by Chiefs Rule in 2009 on Jan 22, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions
Adam Schefter is all talk but no results and a compossed lier
Adam Schefter is just nothing but a cheap and no good lier that cant even back up his articles. Its just like that the Browns getting Scott Pioli then look what happen
Scott Pioli said that the Browns was there man. But then look what happen he is the new CM of the Kansas City Chiefs. He is nothing but talk but no results….All of his storys are fake and garbage just like all of Adam Teicher’s from the Star
by Chiefs Rule in 2009 on Jan 22, 2009 8:52 PM CST reply actions
Actually
Schefter used to cover the Broncos and he’s never been wrong on a Broncos story since going to NFLN. So when he says Shanahan didn’t interview or talk to the Chiefs, I tend to believe him.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
fishbowl
wow copenhagen huh well now we can tell u never been here and thats a good thing for u u might just get tied down like a calf in a rodeo lil buddy. N ow we know that you will not get one of the greatest coach’s to do that job sorry for u guys you will still have the same young no talent team : ( u should just become a broncos fan your friends might consider you a winner and a champion among all…… never mind i take that back you dont deserve to wear the colors of men. i hope you respond cuz i threw my fishin line out there in your bowl not bite lil fishy
by broncosovercheifs on Jan 23, 2009 9:17 AM CST reply actions
lol
Go home donkey fan. We could care less about what your thoughts and opinions are on our site. BTW, you’ve just confirmed that donkey fans are long winded. You can’t even put a thought together with a complete sentence so you make it one long sentence.
Yeah, tieing down a calf. We know you have to tie down a calf to get your jollies. It’s legal to do that in Donkey country. When you get tired of sleeping with your sisters you go after the other red meat.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
Orange... HARDLY seems the color of Men, and your thoughts are not coherent their fragmented as apparent with your grammar.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jan 24, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
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