There are a few ways to check out Scott Pioli's first press conference as the Kansas City Chiefs' GM. The press conference is scheduled to begin at 5 PM CDT.
The local KC Fox affiliate should have a live video feed of the event. KSHB is another possibility for live video.
610 Sports always carries press conferences live.
810 Sports is another local radio option to hear it.
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I was getting ready to ask if it would be televised.
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 14, 2009 4:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unless
The Chiefs decide to nix live audio like they did for Peterson’s send-off. Although that may have just been Peterson’s final fuck-you.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 4:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it was
Some weird deal about the tech stuff not being set up at the new facility.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
?
How do you have a press conference planned days or weeks in advance and not, you know, check that out first.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According To The Star
It wasn’t a technical issue…the Chiefs said no on the live feed for Peterson. I suspect so they could vet it first in case things got too personal.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bradford press conference
may be going live right now at this site.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 4:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
KMBC will probably have something too.
Especially since their Sports Director is Len Dawson, and the fact that their new building is less than 5 miles from the stadium.
by meandean on Jan 14, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bradford is staying in school
It’s official.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 4:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bradford did not want to go to Detroit!
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 14, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say I blame him
Let’s see, big the BMOC and get your pick of the litter of hot Oklahoma chicks while beating up on Iowa State and Baylor.
Or getting your ass handed to you by Brian Urlacher. Tough call there.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Jan 14, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HA!!!
“Hot Oklahoma chicks” :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boomer Sooner
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Jan 14, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Notice That You Can't See Her Face
Didn’t say that women in Oklahoma lacked nice racks. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Lived On The Good Side Of The Kansas-Oklahoma Border For Many Years
So I know that of which I speak. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cali
its all about california girls im in orange county real hotties although i have seen some hot chicks in that area.
by sexassassin on Jan 14, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll Take Your Word On That
Having never been to SoCal…I’m a fan of Chicago girls myself. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cali
Let me say this the chicks over here are amazing but they are mostly stuck up most have no class. But way smokin hot i live off the beach basically and its pretty warm all year long and girls wear nothing over here what that girl is wearing in that pic is like a normal day in so cal
by sexassassin on Jan 14, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
san diego
I will say san diego has some hotties even though i hate qualcomm going there is not that bad when you concider the chicks there are way hot.
by sexassassin on Jan 14, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in San Diego
I have to say, It’s not that the girls are any hotter here than elsewhere. It’s that the weather is warm enough that they’re able to wear less.
by Buck'O on Jan 14, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
iwould love to meet
oklahoma chicks i met some chicks in texas and i said cali they were in love something about hollywood and dreams they just fall in love.
by sexassassin on Jan 14, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
take your pick
toothless Mary or gun toting Janet
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Jan 14, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I go to school in OC now
but my parents live in san diego..And I can honestly say the women here are just beautiful..But KC has got tones of beautiful women as welll..Theirs just a lot more of them out here obviosly..OC and diego are stacked!
Where in the OC do you live bro
by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 14, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're called
Sillicon domes. So.Cal is the land of augmentation.
by Buck'O on Jan 14, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
KC women
are more approachable and you have a higher percentage of making contact on each encounter. San Diego is the land of surplus. You’re bound to strike out more however those that do connect are on average much hotter than what you’ll land in KC
by KansasCityShuffle on Jan 14, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess I Can't Blame Him
Although after looking it up underclassmen QBs do tend to struggle a bit in the pros. I think Bradford would have made it, but then again another year probably won’t hurt.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sad thing is
detroit will probably take him next year after stafford is a bust hahaha
by sexassassin on Jan 14, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I expect him to say
Hello? You PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 14, 2009 4:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where's the Link
on the Fox or 810 page?
by richieguy69 on Jan 14, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Live! Broadcast button at the top right of the 810 page
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's being carried live on NFL Network
Right now!
by NJ_Chief on Jan 14, 2009 4:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He Still Looks Like Tony Soprano With Glasses
“You’re supposed to be earners, that’s why you’ve got the top positions.”
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Pioli: I’ve known Herm for a long time. I’ve got a lot of respect for Herm.
Herm Edwards is Clark Hunt's guy. Herm and Carl forced Clark to choose between their differing visions on how to rebuild the Chiefs, and we all see who got their walking papers. Herm's going to be walking the sidelines at Arrowhead in 2009, and possibly even beyond, no matter who the new General Manager is.
by JacinB on Jan 14, 2009 5:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did He Say "Herm Edwards Is My Coach In 2009" ?
Because I’m betting the answer is no.
That’s what you call taking the high road in a break-up
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know.
My 810 link broke up right as he was starting his next sentence and I can’t seem to get it back.
Herm Edwards is Clark Hunt's guy. Herm and Carl forced Clark to choose between their differing visions on how to rebuild the Chiefs, and we all see who got their walking papers. Herm's going to be walking the sidelines at Arrowhead in 2009, and possibly even beyond, no matter who the new General Manager is.
by JacinB on Jan 14, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Can't Get The Link At All
Oh well…guess I can wait for the Star to do the transcripts.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He said reports one way or the other were false.
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 14, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact he didn't
He said he would talk to Herm and he would decide.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did make a comment about the reports that were out.
And that they meant nothing.
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 14, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
He also will be professional and not discuss it until he talks to Herm. He may keep Herm and He may not. They is basically how he left it. Herm as much as I think we should move on, deserves an interview with Pioli.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That not They
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
If Herm (or anyone else) gets fired, he deserves to hear it firsthand, not at a press conference.
And no, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell Herm’s back…Pioli will take a look at the record, meet with Herm, wish him well, set him on his way, then let the press know. That’s just the way professional organizations are supposed to handle things.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You should change your name
to TenaciousB
by Buck'O on Jan 14, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s called…he hasn’t made a decision yet…but it’s probably close enough :)
There's no hope with dope...
by chrisjo07 on Jan 14, 2009 5:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And I heard
“It’s a decision that the two of us will make together”
- Clark
“We have talked, and we will continue to talk.”
- Scott
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don Scott
He does look like Tony Soprano. That makes me want to call him “Don Scott” much like we called Carl “King Carl”.
by RoyalChief8569 on Jan 14, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1st interview
Went 9 hours. Didn’t talk about Herm that much.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i wish
i could ask the question no tap dancing here i would go for the throat .
by sexassassin on Jan 14, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Press is dancing around the Herm question
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 5:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They seem committed to not answering it regardless
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They know they aren't going to get an answer today
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like he is going to come in and just ax him
The media asks a lot of obvious questions.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They Know The Deal
No sense in hitting the guy with the hard questions on the “get to know you” press conference. They’re trying to make a good impression on him right now so he’ll feed them info in the future.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Carl wasn’t big on sharing information. Maybe they are hoping he will be different. Coming from the Pats, they shouldn’t expect a lot of info.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Think That's Probably Right
But I guess they figure things will be better if the relationship’s not purely hostile like it got with Peterson. And there’s probably merit to that.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scott and Carl have completely differnt demeanors. Scott is comming across as honest and blunt, Carl always seemed like a politician giving us a line.
by RoyalChief8569 on Jan 14, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He seems like a straight forward guy.
You can see by how he answers questions that he came from the recent NE
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Think That's Right
If how the Patriots handled things are indicative of Pioli’s temperament, I get the impression that he’ll either give pretty honest answer in response to a question or no answer at all. Peterson always came off like he was trying to sell you a used car with bald tires and a bad alternator and that you should be happy he chose you to be his customer.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can really respect the fact that he told Petro that he and Herm will be sitting down and having more conversations. I’m not happy with the idea of Herm comming back, but I respect the honesty and will stand behind Scott if Herm’s his final decision for HC this year.
by RoyalChief8569 on Jan 14, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As I Recall
Parcells said the same thing about Cam Cameron in Miami last year…shortly before firing him.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
Herm will be back. And Pioli’s just being polite.
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Jan 14, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t remember hearing Parcells say anything about that but that he hasn’t made a decision yet. But…I’m stuck up here in Alaska so I wouldn’t really know.
There's no hope with dope...
by chrisjo07 on Jan 14, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Although, I thought Petro went right after the issue everybody wants to know with wether Herm will be here or not.
by RoyalChief8569 on Jan 14, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We went through several QBs
Actually you guys went through one of our QBs….
LOL
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
oooh, the clark preference question
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's not about the best players,
It’s about the right players. I really think this guy is going to do wonders for this team.
by richieguy69 on Jan 14, 2009 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Time will tell
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Jan 14, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“individuals go to pro bowls, teams win championships” love that quote!
by RoyalChief8569 on Jan 14, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
todd leabo with a
good call on the 85% comment
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What? No 5 year plan?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Peterson was an example to GMs league-wise about setting timelines.
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That worked out great
he got 20 years out of it.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
Or does Clark look like he belongs on a 70s tv show?
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And my god
the jokes are dying quails today
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's like the lucky billionaire kid
in a Disney movie.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“we only change GM’s every 20 years” hah! love it!
by RoyalChief8569 on Jan 14, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Core belief
about players: Watching them actually play football.
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
People do that?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who knew
That that could be effective? I thought it was all about the 40. O wait that’s Crazy Al.
by richieguy69 on Jan 14, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do love his talent evaluation philosophy
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football"
- John Heisman
by Maddogmag on Jan 14, 2009 5:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Who needs titles anyway?
Carl?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"Clark's been talking with me for 6 weeks anyway"
So before Carl was fired?
by Chris Thorman on Jan 14, 2009 5:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Jan 14, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he said older than me by 6 weeks
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
40 days.
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 15, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of funny people expected and answer on the HC
This whole process has been professional. They are going to be the same way with Herm.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Jan 14, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty Obvious Herm Won't be back
Notice how Herm wasn’t at the press conference..Pioli said the player personel we’re competent at this point..Wow not too huge of a complement..The writing is on the wall..Pioli believes a lot needs to be changed and I highly doubt herm will be back..
by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 14, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nebody know where i can see the press conference i wasnt home from work in time a damn water main broke lol…??
by kcchiefsfan56 on Jan 14, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hop on the Kansas City Star website and they got a post up of the coverage.
There's no hope with dope...
by chrisjo07 on Jan 14, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He said it needs to be built from the ground up.
Does not sound like a ringing endorsement for Herm, or the scouting department.
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 14, 2009 6:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
DJ we have been back and forth on this...
What did you get from his answers on Herm?
Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!
by Eric Allen on Jan 14, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's no question Herm is out
There’s no other way it could be.
I’m as big a Herm supporter as anyone, but right now Pioli is the Golden Child of the NFL, a man that has as much prestige and as good a reputation for being a winner as anyone in a front office position. Coaches and Free Agents will give special consideration to a team run by Pioli this year. The time to bring in talented coaches and free agents is NOW.
If the Chiefs have a losing season again in 2009, no matter whether it is Herm or anyone else, that sheen is going to be tarnished a bit beyond its current blinding brilliance and the premiere coaching candidates may not lean as heavily towards him as they would this year.
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"The time to bring in talented coaches and free agents is NOW."
Really? I hope you’ve informed Mr. Pioli that he has no choice in the matter. Presumably you’ve also provided him with a list of HC prospects that you’ve researched in such detail that you know they will all work very well with him, and that he can commit to a 3-5 year contract with them without bothering to interview anyone.
Nice to know that you’ll not tolerate anything less than an 8-8 season from Pioli in ‘09, at that. I’m srprised tha you didn’t demand that he’d win a Super Bowl in ’10, as well.
Personally, I figure to let the man grow into the job in ‘09, but you’re welcome to your own opinion.
If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will look better next season.
A rookie QB drafted at #3 has less than a %5 chance of starting Game one of '09. Slotting holdouts will prevent him from competing with Thigpen.
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you obviously don't know me
So lay off and do a search of my posts.
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That came off more arrogant than intended
What I meant was that I am one of the most patient fans on these boards and have been a big supporter of Herm all along.
But right now Pioli has some PR mojo going because he’s the hottest GM out there and free agents and coaches are going to gravitate towards that.
But if they wait a year and the Chiefs go 4-12 again, that’s going to be three losing seasons in a row, which officially qualifies as a habit of losing, and some of the sheen on Pioli is going to be tarnished.
He needs to strike while the irons hot and bring in all the talent he can while he’s the NFLs Golden Child.
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reputations Disappear Fast In The NFL
Anyone who’s been paying attention to what happened to Jason Garrett’s rep over the last year should realize that.
Pioli’s never going to have a better opportunity to put his plans in place than he will this offseason, because his credibility will likely not be as high unless he gets the Chiefs into the playoffs next year. This is the year he’ll have his pick of candidates so he’s best served by grabbing the person he wants now.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 15, 2009 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, read /my/ posts, then
If you had, you’d know that I’m not worshipping at the altar of Herm. I’ve ripped him, and in a more more thoughtful manner than the bulk of the crap I see posted here: “Herm sucked for the Jets”, for example. Guess what? Mangini sucked for the Jets, too. “Herm Sucked under Perterson”. Like anyone olse has succeeded under CP? I done laid it out.
My point is, that this is about far more than pleasing fans, r polishing reps. Pioli, IMO, is here to build a Winner. Every ove he’s gonna make will be in aid of that goal. He won’t get there by mindlessly sh1t-canning Herm to please us idiots. He’s going to evaluate Herm, and see what he’s got to work with. Meanwhile, he’s gonna survey the available talent. If The Hire isn’t there, he’s gonna probably do the smart thing, and string Herm along until he gets the Right guy. If Coach Right is out there, then Herm’s interview is a courtesy call, and no more. Likewise if he decides after the interview that he can’t work with Herm (doubt it – Herm managed to suck up and soldier for 2 years of Carl, before he went over Carl’s head. Herm can do one more year without blinking.)
But if you think my defense was of Herm, you’re delusional. I’m defending Pioli: he’s the guy, now. Presumably, he knows what he’s doing, and I’m not gonna hang Herm as a fan deal-breaker over his head. I don’t know you? I know you better than /you/ know Pioli.
If Pioli’s a weak sister who hid underBelichick’s skirts, or he’s the next Carl, or he’s gonna guide us to the OPromised Land, we won’t know until 2010 at the earliest, whoever’s the HC next year.
“The first thing in building a team is that it’s not necessarily the best 53 players, it’s the right 53 players,” he said.
“We’re going to build a big, strong, fast, tough, disciplined football team. We’re going to start from the ground up and build a foundation and move ahead and touch every part of the football operation. The patience I know Clark has told me he’s going to show is going to be rewarded.”
The /right/ 53 players. You tink he’s not going to apply the same philosophy to his coaches? If not, why not?
I refuse to believe that a man with that mindset is going to dump Herm and commit to 3-4 years of “best available”, rather than finding the right fit at HC. Grabbing a somewhat-better HC would be wortse for Pioli than keeping Herm one more season and extending the search. Money aside, he /can’t/ go through HCs like fresh undies. Can’t. The next HC needs to know he’s got the backing of the GM. If Pioli can’t find the fit, then another year of Herm will go a long ways to say “Hey, I’ll back you if things don’t go as planned”.
UC, you can help out DJ here: Post your list of potential (acutally /hireable/, not pie-in-the-sky) HC canidates that Pioli knows, trusts, believes in, and can put in place fast enough to make 09 work. (Yes, that’s loaded, since neither you nor DJ (nr I) know what’s in his head.)
But as far as reputations go, I can’t think of a better way for a newbie like Pioli to sculle his own than to start burning through Head Coaches the way Al Davis does – and look at what it’s done for Al. After Herm, Pioli’s stuck for the bulk of the next contract. He’s gotta get it right, or his rep is toast. The second-worst thing he could do to himself is to be the /next/ Carl Peterson: /almost/ good enough to win in the postseason.
But to repeat myself: if he’s got Coach Right on tap, and can get him here fast, then bye-bye, Herm. Been real, been fun, but it ain’t been real fun.
And I won’t shed a tear.
If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will look better next season.
A rookie QB drafted at #3 has less than a %5 chance of starting Game one of '09. Slotting holdouts will prevent him from competing with Thigpen.
by Bleedingredandgold on Jan 15, 2009 4:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After Watching The Full Interview
I think there’s going to be a lot of changes here…I seriously doubt McIntosh will be our right tackle next season and I think Larry Johnson’s going to get shopped. He put a lot of emphasis on players buying into the “culture” and that ain’t LJ…and good riddance as far as I’m concerned.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 14, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think there will be more changes than we can conceive right now
The Chiefs have been run a certain way for 20 years by Peterson and that method was largely based on his attention being divided by all his duties.
Whereas Peterson more or less let his coaches pick their own assistants and the majority of the time went with their preferrences in the draft, I get the sense that may not be the case with Pioli. I’m sure he will take into consideration assistants that his new head coaches work well with, but I get the feeling that if he gets a major defensive minded head coach like Rex Ryan, he’s not going to, for example, let him bring the Ravens TE coach to KC to be the Offensive Coordinator just because thats who Ryan would want.
I think we will see Pioli taking a much more active hand in managing coaches and coordinators than Peterson ever did. Same with drafts. I think we will see Pioli choosing players that he thinks will be best for the Chiefs long run in the draft over for example Peterson heavily leaning towards his coaches opinions of players they need for their current team.
by ChiefDJ on Jan 14, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Get The Impression That Pioli Will Micromanage The Coach
He talked a lot about “roles” and everyone having their place and seemed to push the coach being the face of the franchise. I suspect he just wants the ability to fire assistant coaches if need be but he’s probably not going to make it a habit to usurp his head coach’s authority and dictate who he must hire…which is probably the best way to go about it. Frankly, Peterson should have usurped Vermeil’s authority and dumped Greg Robinson about a year before it happened, then maybe they could have won a playoff game with the 13-3 team.
Basically, yes…I think that your impression is about right. And I think you’re also right about what he intends to do with player evaluation and selection, and that this is probably the best course for the Chiefs. The GM’s role should be to scout and select the players so that the coach can work on gameplanning and training instead of worrying about the draft and free agency (which isn’t and shouldn’t be the coach’s role).
Overall, I was extremely impressed with both Hunt and Pioli at the press conference.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 15, 2009 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he will micromanage
But I think if he brings in a coach like Herm, that doesn’t have a strong network of assistants to bring with him that Pioli won’t just leave him pluck any college guys he can find out just to fill the staff. Pioli will actively be pursuing good qualified NFL candidates.
by ChiefDJ on Jan 15, 2009 6:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Suspect That's Probably Right Too
Somehow, though, I suspect he’ll bring in a head coach with more contacts than Herm had. Herm’s primary attraction for Peterson appeared to be that he was someone Peterson was friends with…not so much because he was an impressive head coach. As I recall, Peterson didn’t even look at any other coaches, he just wanted a guy he knew personally and felt he could trust. Pioli strikes me as someone who’s going to look more heavily at the resume and make a hire based on qualification over personal friendship. Results-oriented, basically, which is a much needed direction for the Chiefs.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 15, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clark just interviewed on 610 ...
(Or, admittedly, possibly 810. I was switching back and forth.)
And he said, in response to a question about how much control Pioli had, that he had complet control over the football side of the Chiefs EXCEPT for the decision on the head coach which would be a joint decision (presumably with Clark having Simon Cowell-like tie-breaking power).
Herm Edwards is Clark Hunt's guy. Herm and Carl forced Clark to choose between their differing visions on how to rebuild the Chiefs, and we all see who got their walking papers. Herm's going to be walking the sidelines at Arrowhead in 2009, and possibly even beyond, no matter who the new General Manager is.
by JacinB on Jan 15, 2009 8:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Herm's Still Going Away
A GM candidate like Pioli is not going to take this job if he was anchored to the previous occupant’s decisions. He’s laying a foundation for a new team and that doesn’t include the previous regime’s coach in the final year of his contract. He’s not giving Herm a four or five year extension after his team’s performance for the last two seasons and if he doesn’t commit to the coach it will undermine the Chiefs’ forays into free agency (since players won’t want to sign for a lame duck coach who could be gone in a year).
Regardless of how you feel about Herm personally, there is no rational justification for bringing him back next year. The most common defense I’ve heard has basically been pity (“Herm didn’t have a chance”) and that’s not much of a plug for Herm’s ability to coach…it’s just a lament that he wasn’t luckier. Pioli’s goal is to compete for championships. Herm’s never shown himself to be that caliber of a coach, even in his good years with the Jets. He represents a huge liability for Pioli if he’s retained with very little chance of helping Pioli achieve his goals. He’ll get a day or two, Pioli will have the sitdown with him and he’ll be gone. The Chiefs are going to do the best they can not to humiliate the guy, because that’s just how Clark Hunt (and, apparently, Scott Pioli) does things, but the Chiefs aren’t going to keep Herm around just because they like him as a person…that’s how the last guy did things and he got pushed out.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Jan 15, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs are going to do the best they can not to humiliate the guy
And THATS the reason people want to work for this organization. By having it be a joint decisions by the owner and GM it makes it a “fair” situation for any incoming HC. If either of them made the other look like the “bad guy” we’d have press conferences announcing HC relases ala Al Davis.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Jan 15, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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