Might as Well Add Ravens' DC Rex Ryan to the Chiefs' Rumor Mill

by Chris Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 6:46 AM CST in GM Search Comment 37 comments

Jack Harry of KSHB-TV, talking about the Kansas City Chiefs' head coaching candidates, adds Ravens' DC Rex Ryan into the mix. Even though Herm is still the head coach.

Here's the quick summary about the candidates Harry mentions for those without access to the video (Pretty much news we've heard before):

Iowa HC Kirk Ferentz currently has 3 years, $12 million on his contract. Herm is currently getting 4 years, $12 million
Mike Shanahan apparently reached out to the Chiefs. Salary may be a problem- Shanny's last contract was 3 years, $21 million. That's quite a bit more than Herm's.
Ravens DC Rex Ryan may be a head coaching candidate

Nothing ground breaking here but it's "news" I suppose. And it's fun to post videos.

H/T Eric Allen in the comments.

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If the Chiefs got Shanahan at 5 mil a year

Would Bowlen be responsible for the other two for the remainder of the contract?

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 13, 2009 6:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think so

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 7:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why not Shanny then?

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 13, 2009 7:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So theoretically … He could come in and work for peanuts, and the Broncos would have to pony up whatever salary he has left in the remaining years of his contract. More than likely though, they just paid him off.

The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!

by IISaiNtII on Jan 13, 2009 7:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How does this whole thing work?

Bowlen fired him so he has no control over where Shanahan goes, right? But he still has to pay him, right?

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

….unless he is Al Davis :)
That’s actually not a joke. Al refused to pay out Shanahan when he left Oakland and went to Denver. It’s still a sore subject with Shanahan and it probably never will.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.

by THE_TRUTH on Jan 13, 2009 8:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

...it probably never will be resolved

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.

by THE_TRUTH on Jan 13, 2009 8:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Shanahan owes the Raiders money too

Which is likely why he never filed legal action against the Raiders.

See the link I provided below.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Payback.

Maybe Clark is paying back the disgruntled fans that have been calling him allot of names by delaying naming a GM and the status of Herm Edwards. At least that what I am hoping is happening.

by Aejfan on Jan 13, 2009 7:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he is dragging it out

so we have no choice but to retain Herm this season. Oh hell no, one step forward two steps back. That thought scares the shit out of me!

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 13, 2009 7:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jack Harry is a chimp

Give him a banana and see what 4th-hand crap he’ll plop out.

by RedNose on Jan 13, 2009 7:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Regarding Shanahan's Salary

In the stretch of his career that got him fired he still averaged 8 wins a season. $7 million a year is not unreasonable for a coach of his caliber…Cowher would almost certainly receive as much.

And the reason Herm made so little comparatively is because he’s a bargain-basement head coach.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 7:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

And Shanahan had been with the same team for 14 years

Getting raises every 4-5 years. He won a Super Bowl, so he’s earned the right for $7 million/year (even if that was 10 years ago).

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There's No "Right" To That Sort Of Salary

Like with any commodity, Shanahan’s only entitled to whatever anyone’s willing to pay for his services…but I wouldn’t have a problem if the Chiefs paid him $7 million a year, just as long as they didn’t put him in charge of personnel.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 8:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right, deserves,whatever

You can justify paying him that much money based on his past success and what he can provide to the franchise is what I’m saying.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I think he’s probably worth it…and I think he could be as successful with another organization so long as he’s not put in charge of picking the players.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Drafting Was His Achilles Heel

I don’t think his coaching fell off at all…in fact, I’m surprised he was able to do as well as he did considering what a terrible drafter he was.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

And it’s not like Herm leaving the Chiefs.

The Broncos nearly won the division this year. However, their expectations are for the Super Bowl and nothing else. We just wanna win a playoff game :)

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Call me crazy

but Id take rat-face Shannahan on the Chiefs. You know hed be trying to screw over the Broncos twice a year

by ArrowDread on Jan 13, 2009 8:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

And The Raiders

And I don’t think he has any love for the Chargers either. If Shanahan came to the Chiefs as the head coach, I’d be happy.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of Shanahan and the Raiders

PFT had a good one this morning.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Me Too

Jack Harry said Shanahan reached out to the Chiefs regarding the head coach opening but quickly said he can’t confirm that yet.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It's Been Repeated

So I suspect that there was an inquiry made. That happens all the time, doesn’t necessarily mean there was anything more to it than Shanahan informally asking (assuming he did ask).

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

It’s not like one unconfirmed report would be blown out of proportion considering the plethora of information coming from Clark Hunt’s camp :)

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

At least Jack said he cannot confirm it yet...

sounds like he is going to do some more digging. All this time for the GM is starting to scare me. I am beginning to wonder if Clark is cherrypicking to get a GM that will work with Herm.

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 13, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Whoops

Forgot your hat tip in the post.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No worries.

Are we going to hear something today? You can feel it, it is boiling, when will it esplode?

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 13, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Every time I think it's coming

I’m disappointed. I’ll worry more if/when Baltimore is eliminated because we apparently have a couple of candidates in their front office.

by Joel Thorman on Jan 13, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hire Shanny

Don’t go cheap there is nobody better. He knows the team, he knows the division and he is proven and motivated.

by FrankPitts on Jan 13, 2009 10:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

This him contacting us changes things a bit...

Our initial objection was how do you carve out something with the top GM candidate (Pioli IOO) who at least was looking AND the top HC candidate (Shanahan IOO) who ostensibly would have to be convinced. Basically, Pioli would work providing we gave him the autonomy he wants, which would preclude enticing Shanahan for whom presumably money (sans ridiculous offers) is not the issue as much as retaining the type of controlling interest similar to what he had in Denver.

But NOW, if he’s actively looking to A) get back in the game next season, B) get back at Denver, C) win with the Chiefs there could be a potential marriage of Pioli and Shanahan’s interests, which admittedly would require monumental acumen on the part of Clark, but still not impossible.

That’d be for a combined 40 yr.s in the NFL and 5 Super Bowl wins. Ideally, it’d be Pioli (1) Shanahan (2) simply because Pioli has more to offer in terms of long-term team architecture and talent development. But Pioli can clearly work with strong personalities and if Shanahan can turnover the development role to a proven champion and focus on the coaching and strategic matters we say pay the man.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jan 13, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I would say

that he may not want so much responsibility as he had in Denver. He’s a proven coach, who was given too much control. Instead of hiring him help, they gave him the boot. Perhaps he has seen he can’t do THAT much and still be productive (learning the error of his ways I suppose).

I wouldn’t be opposed to him if he would be HC and that’s all. I actually think it’s pretty remarkable he would turn to the Chiefs as quickly as he did.

The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!

by IISaiNtII on Jan 13, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree Completely

Shanahan doesn’t strike me as a guy who’s too dense to learn from his mistakes. He’s a great coach and if he’s fine with someone else evaluating and bringing in the talent I think he’d be a lot better than he was for his few years in Denver. And if we get Pioli, it’s not like he hasn’t done great things working with an iconic coach before.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Jan 13, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

shanny

I would take shanny in a heart beat . The guy has proven he can win the big one . And that he can use any running back and still produce a run game .

by sexassassin on Jan 13, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Rex Ryan being a candidate should be no surprise...

…His defenses have been very solid…

I would also like to know how shanahan reached out to the Chiefs…Because he has been very vocal about NOT wanting a rebuilding project…

by woodman212 on Jan 13, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Soo basically their is no financial factor

that will influence the chiefs not to hire Shanahan since Bowlen has to pay the remaining salary of the contract..That’s how I’m taking it…It’s not like Shanahan left his contract for the chiefs..He got fired so we will not have to pay a dime of that..

I think Shanahan views the chiefs organization as a terrific organization..The guy has been coaching at arrowhead twice a year for 15 years and has seen how we have the loudest stadium in the NFL. We have great ownership..And i don’t believe he views this team as a “rebuilding team”..Their is enough talent on this team where we can compete for the division as long as we pick up two free agent studs for our linebacking corpse and d-line or perhaps our o line, as well as three legitimate starters in the draft….I don’t believe we need any other wr’s because I believe we are competent in this area with Gonzalez, Bowe, and Bradley..Although I do believe Crabtree would turn us into a freaking offensive powerhouse..We also have Larry Johnson and Jamal Charles..I think Larry is as good as any rb Shannahan has coached since terrell davis..I think Shanahan see’s some huge benefits in coming here and would love to stick it to oakland and denver twice a year each..But just my opinion..

I would love to see Shanahan restore pride back to arrowhead..The guy is a winner..If he is hired my head will explode..If we hire Farentz or whatever his name is I’m gonna shake my head for a week..I really hope the reports are true that his son is playing and he doesn’t want to leave until his son is done.

by CALIFAN1986 on Jan 13, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ryan to Jets..

I love to hear the likes of a possible Rex Ryan head coaching job here in KC. According to Rocky Mountain News he was quoted as saying “The numbers say I’ve done a decent job…If a team wants to stop somebody, all you have to do is look at my track record. If we don’t get them stopped in the first year, it will probably be the first time we don’t get them stopped in my career, going back through college, whatever. … I’ll get my time, and whoever gets me will get a guy who is a real football coach and not a pretender.” Confidence is a good thing.. problem is NY Jets insiders believe he is the “front-runner” for the job. My second pick would be Shanahan if the rumors he would consider working here are true. I agree with The Star’s Teicher that if the GM search could last for several more weeks then the Hunt should release the coaching staff now. I, however, would like to see Chan Gailey stay! Am I the only one? Gunther should definately get the heave-ho.

by JChief on Jan 13, 2009 1:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bring me the Rat Face Bastard

The defense will soon be able to shut down the damn bootleg. Denver has done that bootleg bullshart since Elway’s prime and the Chiefs have NEVER stopped it…even with DT and Neil Smith.

by fishbowl72 on Jan 13, 2009 8:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs