Pioili and McDaniels packaged deal?

by kc571 on Jan 12, 2009 8:24 AM CST Comment 21 comments

One would think that if Pioli wanted McDaniels as his head coach, that he would have told him to hold tight while he negotiated his new GM position with the Chiefs. Do you think that he told McDaniels that he's going to go back to New England, and to look for a position without him?

I've never been as excited about a Management move for one of my teams. Based on his reputation, we would of had an injection of "winning attitude". Now with McDaniels leaving for a competitor, I think Pioli told McDaniels to fend for himself.

I'm sure the two collaborated. Please prove me wrong!

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Pioli told McDaniels he is keeping Herm for this year and McDaniels should go elsewhere. I think this is the strongest signal so far that Herm is staying.

by KS on Jan 12, 2009 8:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Or Pioli has his coach in Shanahan.

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Do you see him bringing Romeo Crennell as DC?

I want the 3-4 in KC!!!!

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by JasonM on Jan 12, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If we went to a 3-4 ...

we wasted our draft pick on Glenn Dorsey. I think his talents would be wasted as a nose tackle.

by mooseface79 on Jan 12, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking about him as an end in the 3-4

Tank an Ron Edwards at nose.

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by JasonM on Jan 12, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Glenn would have to drop 20lbs

AT LEAST, to even sniff production as a 5 Technique in the NFL. Richard Seymour is the prototypical 5 tech in the league, 6’5 – 6’6 275-300. I’ll just come out and say it, Dorsey is to the 5 tech (in a 3-4) what alfonso boone is to a 6 tech (DE in a 4-3). There is your answer…

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by bigbe on Jan 12, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Intriguing Question

I’ve never coached or played organized football in my life, and I make this comment with that in mind:

Is it possible that Dorsey could be converted to a 3-4 D-end? He’s always been known for his explosive quickness for his size and he actually weighs less than Richard Seymour, who plays end in the Pats 3-4. The issue would seem to be his height and the fact that he’d be learning an entirely new position.

This is something I’m curious about more than anything else – I’ve always had a thing for the 3-4 (blame Madden) but I’ll admit the Chiefs are short quality linebackers let alone in the 4-3.

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by Maddogmag on Jan 12, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We would be short LB's in a 5-2.

His height is my only concern, but I look at Ravens DE Bannan I believe he is only 6’2 and they weigh about the same, and I guarantee that Dorsey has more abilities than him. I’ve been doing some research on this and if we signed Nick Eason RDE away from the Steelers and Rocky Bernard from the Seahawks, we could have a pretty good D Line. Drafting LB’s would then be our main defensive priority in the draft.

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by JasonM on Jan 12, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

=)

We would be short LB’s in a 5-2.

Hilarious…

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 12, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

On second thought

maybe we had better just always play in the dime

by PVChiefsfan on Jan 12, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Still think

That Shanahan will sit out the 2009 season, soak up some of Pat Bowlen’s money, and get prepared for big money offers – probably outside the AFC West – next offseason.

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by Maddogmag on Jan 12, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

Even these mainstream news stories about Pioli’s increased interest mention that Hunt is working hard to convince his new GM to let Herm finish out the contract.

If it does happen, I still have to hope that Gunther and Krumrie are out – they’ve done nothing to keep their jobs IMHO.

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by Maddogmag on Jan 12, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why would Pioli keep Herm?

In his last year of his contract, has done nothing to earn an extension, he is a lame duck. It would be hard to get any quality free agents when they do not even know which coach they would be playing for, or which system they would be playing in.

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Trust me

I want Herm out as much as anybody. It’s Clark that – if reports are to be believed – wants Herm to be able to finish his deal, at the least. Not only did he sign off on the rebuilding (if not of the 2-14 variety), but he and Herm are tight.

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by Maddogmag on Jan 12, 2009 9:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

What GM would want a HC

who has a direct pipeline to the owner, who could undermine his authority at any given time, why put yourself in that situation?

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2009 9:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Mostly

I’m trying to get myself in a mental state where I don’t flip out if Herm is retained. Once the Chiefs actually get around to hiring a GM and contemplating a new coaching staff, all of the top candidates could be out of play. Stranger things have happened.

Also, I think I oversimplified in the previous post – Clark likes Herm, but Herm’s leash is now considerably shorter after a 2-14 season and Carl having taken the fall. Unlike with Carl, when it comes down to new GM vs. Herm, Herm will be the one to go.

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by Maddogmag on Jan 12, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Herm was a bad hire.

He might have an idea about building a team, but is not a good enough of a coach to get it done.

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN is reporting that contract negotiations

between Pioli and the Chiefs have not yet begun, citing a Boston source.

Lets hope Clark lets the new GM start fresh, with his guys. Who would want a coach, who has lost twice as many as he has won in KC?

by Eric Allen on Jan 12, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The only reason I can think of why Pioli would keep Herm one year...

…it that Ferentz might be easier to get out of Iowa City a year from now. It is getting really late in the game to pull a guy out of college. National signing day is in February.

If Pioli is as fond of Ferentz as many seem to think, he might be willing to wait one more year to get his guy.

by DonnyDonovan on Jan 12, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The only thing working againt that...

Ferentz does have one kid left in high school (I believe a sophomore) here in Iowa City and a couple in college and grad school here at the University. He has said he will not leave Iowa City until after all his kids are done with high school. While this could change, it seems that the year is this year. I don’t think he would uproot his youngest right before the last two years of school. From al accounts (some personal from his children) he is a family man above all else.

by ryan_andersen98 on Jan 12, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

good call donny

The only reason Pioli is linked to McDaniels is because they worked for the same team, I have not heard one credible source that has said Pioli was even thinking about hiring McDaniels, maybe i am wrong and would gladly except defeat if somebody proved otherwise, but from what i know Piloi with McDaniels is just a dream concocted by chiefs fans,

by IamtheGreatest on Jan 12, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs