Chiefs quarterback Brodie Croyle suffered a separated right throwing shoulder in Sunday's 17-10...

Well,

I hope they pick up someone.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Sep 7, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sigh

Well, so much for seeing what Croyle brings to the table.

By the way, Huard didn’t look half bad running the offense except for that really horrible interception (which was entirely his fault). He put two really solid shots into the endzone, but Bowe screwed up one of them and the ref swallowed his whistle on a pretty blatant interference call on the second. If only Darling could have outrun the defenders on that long pass.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't stomach another season of Huard

I fear we are going to see Joey Harrington in a Chiefs uniform soon.

If Croyles going to miss extended time, make Cleveland an offer they can’t refuse for Brady Quinn and be done with it. Thigpen isn’t cut out to be a starter and Huard takes more sacks than a grocery store stockboy.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We are on the same page again! Scroll down!

by Eric Allen on Sep 7, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want to see it either

But he got into the end zone and Croyle didn’t. I’m not advocating Croyle, I’m just speaking from a comparative standpoint – Huard is better than Croyle.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He Was Also Able To Pass Downfield

It certainly wasn’t Croyle’s worst effort, but I don’t think you can say that Croyle did a whole lot to impress in the time he was in. Especially since the end of his day just feeds the argument that he can’t stay healthy. A separated shoulder could happen to anyone, but Croyle took a lot of hits back there and doesn’t seem to have much of a sense of how to avoid pass rushers.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although

Croyle’s numbers would have looked a lot better if Bowe hadn’t developed an unfortunate case of butterfingers today.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huard is better than Croyle

I hope so, he has 9 more years of experience.

The whole idea of this season is to rebuild the team and get our young guys, INCLUDING our young QB experience. Now its looking like a wash.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I meant by that

Was that they are both journeyman, back-up quality quarterbacks.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That remains to be seen about Croyle

But if he can’t stay healthy, its what his future holds for him.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now we really have

Durability questions. He was getting hit today, but it was not like it was on every play.

by Eric Allen on Sep 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He Doesn't Seem To Have Much Of An Instinct For Avoiding Pass-Rushers

You’ll see a lot of QBs do things to avoid taking severe contact in the pocket, even when they’re getting hit. Croyle doesn’t seem to do that…he just lets himself get walloped. That’s not going to lend itself to staying healthy.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every QB takes shots

Croyle didnt get much time to pass most of the time and several times he waited till the last minute to throw it and took a big hit. Huard on the other hand tucks it if theres a guy within 5 yards of him.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That may be true

But Huard put points on the board and Croyle didn’t. I don’t care about the avenue, just the destination.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I’d prefer if Huard didn’t tuck so much, but when it comes down to it he was still more productive than Croyle, working with the same offensive line and receivers that Croyle did.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t care about the avenue, just the destination

If that were the case, you wouldnt be advocating Huard

Huard will be retiring by the time the rest of this team is ready to be competitive for the playoffs. Croyle would have another year or two experience by then.

Whether its Croyle or some other young guy, we’re going to have to be willing to learn to let him learn on the job or we’ll never get anywhere. We can’t be SO worried about winning one or two more games during a season where we’re not going to make the playoffs anyway that we dont develop a young QB.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huh

I don’t care how we get there, yes that is true. Huard is 35 or something, so it’s obviously not him.

Croyle is showing more and more he’s not the guy.

I hope he works out, but if he doesn’t I just pray that the Chiefs front office can cut him loose after this season.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not advocating Huard

What I’m saying is that comparatively speaking Huard is (and probably always will be) better than Brodie.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Our options this year are....

Croyle
Huard
Thigpen

So unless you think Thigpen is another Tony Romo, Croyle is the best option we have this year.

I don’t know how you can be more obvious than to say a guy thats been in the league 12 years is better than a guy that is just starting his third. I’m pretty sure Huard didn’t look like he does now starting his third year.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, I agree

We have to know for sure that Croyle is/isn’t the guy, so he will play.

As of now, he doesn’t look anywhere near a 35 year old is a career back-up. You know how bad he is, you spent the off-season bashing him.

And in terms of playing time, Huard is about 3 seasons ahead of Croyle.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But he's had 12 seasons of

Watching Tape, preparing for games and playing around great QBs like Dan Marino and Tom Brady.

Experience counts for a lot.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Experience Hasn't Gotten Him A Starting Job

I don’t care if he’s been in the league 100 years, Huard is a so-so backup QB who’s not good enough to be a starter for any team in this league and Croyle can’t outperform him. He didn’t outperform him last year, he hasn’t outperformed him in their only game this year, and it appears he’s not going to be able to stay healthy enough to outperform him in the future.

I agree with you that Huard’s not that good. But he’s still a better QB than Croyle.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ive already conceded that

But I maintain that Croyle has potential to be much much better than Huard, but needs game time to get there.

We aren’t going anywhere anyway and there isn’t another QB out there worth taking this season, so WHY are we talking about this?

You should want Croyle to play as much as possible this year so that if hes as bad as you think he is, we can make a clean break with him and bring someone else in.

All playing Huard is going to do is keep the hope that Croyle can be the guy going on next year.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

But he can’t stay healthy. If the shoulder injury keeps him out for an extended period of time, I’d honestly rather have Huard starting not because I think Huard is the answer for the future (he obviously isn’t) but because we won’t have to hold up the development of the line, the young receivers and the rest of the offense while Croyle keeps playing catchup because he can’t stay healthy.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellant Point

Even if Huard cannot pass very far downfield, the line still gets the chance to gel and possibly become better.

by Lanier63 on Sep 7, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you

The thing about quarterback is that poor play can have devastating effects on the rest of the team.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look At It This Way

If Huard’s performing better than Croyle then it doesn’t hurt the rest of the young offensive players to have Huard in the game and Croyle on the sidelines. Would we prefer to see if Croyle’s capable of playing? Sure…but there’s still a positive angle in there even if he can’t play.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree

We need to find our franchise QB as soon as possible. Huard absolutely is not that guy.

I don’t care how many games the Chiefs win this year. I care about how many games they are going to win for the next TEN years.

If Croyle isnt the guy, lets have the next guy lined up and find out about him. Playing Huard is a waste of time.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd Agree, Except

There’s not really a QB available out there right now worth betting the house on (meaning obviously worth a 1st round draft pick). Brady Quinn might be that guy, or he might not…he still hasn’t beat Derek Anderson, after all. And we might be able to get him cheaper.

What I’m trying to say is, I’m all for bringing in a potential franchise guy, but we’re not necessarily going to help ourselves by doing it now (when we’re operating from a position of weakness and desperation) than waiting for the offseason (when there will be players available that teams will have to dump, like Anderson or Quinn). This isn’t a team destined for the Super Bowl in the next year or two, so we’ve got time to wait on it and deal when it’s to our advantage.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pressure's Going To Be On Cleveland To Deal A QB Next Year

Right now there isn’t that pressure, so if we go to them hat in hand we’ll have to pay through the nose.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anderson is not a good QB

He had a Damon Huard 2006 year last year. He never showed that kind of potential before and lost it at the end of the season. He got in the pro bowl because he had a couple good games and thats it.

I want nothing to do with Derrick Anderson.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're kidding, right?

Derek Anderson is entering his third year in the league. Just like Croyle. He’s just performed much, much better than Croyle.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think DA is in his 4th year

Not third.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not comparing him to Croyle

I’m saying he had a flash in the pan couple of games. He performed very poorly the last several games of last season and has looked bad in preseason so far this year.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he wont finish teh season

as the browns starter

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I'm saying is...

Why is Derek Anderson’s success just luck and Croyle’s bad play is a sign of good things to come.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im not saying Croyles bad play is a sign of things to come

I’m saying he is the best option we have on this roster and there is no one else on the roster worth giving the chance.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

croyle

plays decently despite his sorroundings.

anderson’s sorroundings, on the other hand, make anderson look good.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denial

plays decently despite his sorroundings.

Decently!?! He was the worst QB in the league last season. Dead fucking last. He was the worst deep passer, his completion percentage was among the league’s worst when he threw nothing but short passes…hell, he was worse than Tarvaris Jackson and that guy’s thoroughly rotten. Huard had numbers comparable to league average and he was playing behind the same line as Croyle so this “Croyle was handicapped by his team” argument is a load of b.s.

Croyle performs terribly because he’s not a good quarterback. He has yet to outperform his backup, who isn’t that good. He has yet to prove that he’s one of the 30 best QBs in a 32 team league. Maybe he’ll get better with playing time, maybe not…but unfortunately he’s apparently can’t stay healthy enough to let us find that out. Anderson may not be that good, but he’s shown a hell of a lot more ability than Croyle ever has.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was talking about this year

like you said, last year is last year.

croyle played better today than anderson, no? i think he at least did decent.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

also

he had a stellar offensive line, the second best WR corps inthe country and a OC who didn’t suck.

and let me find his end of the season stats…

theres a reason a coin flip was all that seperated him from the great charlie batch

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last Year Is Last Year, And It's A Pointless Argument

The relevant point is that Croyle has yet to outperform his backup in any season.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

croyle

is not as good as his back up YET

plus he hasn’t been given an opportunity. when the playcallers let the leash go on croyle’s deep arm, good things will start to happen.

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same offense, same playcalling

And Huard did fine. Why can’t Croyle?

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is there a Chief player, that alone, would command a trade for Quinn?

player for player

by Lanier63 on Sep 7, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sippio!!!

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sippio

for Quinn and Edwards, right?

Arrowhead Pride

by Chris on Sep 7, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

at LEAST

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They don't usually trade player for player in the NFL

It happens, but rarely. We’ll be forking over some draft picks if they were to do that and Cleveland has plenty of suitors for Brady Quinn so Im sure the price would be steep.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

im telling you guys

anderson will be the one booted from cleveland when all is said and done. we may as well start offering for number 3 becuase quinn will be starting in believeland next season.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can see that

Although they can afford both QBs for a while because Quinn’s contract is incentive-based. Still not sure why he had to hold out for that.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good points

I imagine we will sign a back-up if Croyle will miss extended time.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So why are we talking up Huard?

We KNOW Huard isn’t the guy, so why are we comparing a 12 year vet to a 3rd year guy?

I’m fully willing to accept that Croyle may not turn out to be a franchise guy, because of the injuries if nothing else. But playing Huard who will be retired in one or two more years is ludicrous. It does nothing to advance this team.

If Thigpen doesn’t have starter ability (and I dont think he does), then we need to just gut it out with Croyle (if he can come back in a reasonable amount of time) and find out for sure so we can make a clean break starting next season.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We aren't talking up Huard

And who said Huard is the future?

What I am saying is that Croyle looked like shit and a 12 year veteran who hasn’t been able to hang on to a starting job can put points on the board and Croyle can’t.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

other than taking too many hits

croyle looked like anything but shit.

11/19 with what shouldve been at least 14/19 is not a bad day. If you expect him to come out and drop bombs all over the Patriots defense with our oline and play calling, you need to temper your expectations significantly.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His YPC is shit

11/19 isn’t hard when you only get 70 yards out of it.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

like i said

playcalling.

would you like Brodie to put on the OC’s headset as well??

…im pretty sure I would, actually.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So You Think The Coaching Staff Is Trying To Make Croyle Fail?

Because in a game like this if the coaching staff is calling “better” plays for Huard it’s because they don’t believe Croyle is capable of executing those plays.

I’m in complete agreement with DJ…it’s not hard having a high completion percentage when you’re throwing short passes.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, Meant Primetime

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Skewed

UC he’s screwing up our completion % argument against him!

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

if your trying to establish comfort and calm your qb down, are you going to tell him to go deep against the defending AFC champs?

no, you just get some simple stuff going first.

i just dont think croyle needs that. when you play for bama, i can garuntee the pressure is equal to that of KC, and thats not in any way a knck on KC

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simple stuff first?

I thought that’s what all of last year was.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't understand the playcalling line

Unless you had a different angle and could see the entire field and the other WRs on the broadcast that’s impossible to know.

Croyle still has to execute the plays which he hasn’t done thus far.

I think the play calls are fine it’s just that Croyle’s not good enough to make some deeper throws.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's Certainly Got The Arm

But he just can’t seem to put a lot of those on-target. He had one or two that would have been good, but the receiver dropped the ball, but most of his other deep stuff was off.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think talent is the problem

Its lack of experience.

Huard clearly throws downfield more often than Croyle. I dont think thats a case of receivers only getting open for Huard and staying covered with Croyle.

As long as the ball is moving down the field, I don’t give a crap if he gets 20 yards in one pass or four.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

croyle

had the best deep ball in his draft class. not saying it was good, just best in that draft class.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He Had The Best Arm In His Draft Class

That doesn’t mean he has the ability to put it on target. A strong arm is irrelevant if you’re not able to complete passes with it in a game.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tools

Important thing to recognize is “tools” arguments versus “skills” arguments. Often people get sucked in by the fact that a QB can throw a ball 50 yards from his knees (or whatever), which indicates that the player has great physical tools. But the skill to hit a deep target with those tools is actually more important.

Personally, I’m starting to see Croyle as equivalent to Heath Shuler…a guy with a great arm who couldn’t throw deep or stay healthy either. At least we didn’t burn a first-rounder on Croyle.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i completely agree

i guess i just have more faith in his skills based off of his collegiate career and glimpses of his pro career.

i am not confident in his ability to stay healthy anymore, and thats huge.

seems like a good leader too

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

1st rounder

No kidding, UC. It was just (just?) a third.

Quarterback is easily the most important position on the field so it’s worth giving up whatever you need to get the guy that fits.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how long

do seperated shoulders usually take?

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not totally sure

Emmitt Smith played what was I think a divisional playoff game with a separated shoulder.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really sucks

Throwing shoulder will take a while. I wish Brodie could pull a Mel Gibson from Lethal Weapon and pop it back into place. That would be great.

by Tuggurnaut on Sep 7, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes but

he wasnt throwing with that shoulder. Croyle seperated his THROWING shoulder.

Alex Smith missed the final 7 games last season with a seperated shoulder.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe not a good comparison

Because it was recently discovered that Alex Smith had a chipped bone in his shoulder as well. He might have had more problems than just a separated shoulder.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It Depends On What Kind Of Separation

They have different grades for it…Alex Smith’s shoulder was the most serious type of separation. Eli had one two but didn’t miss any time. Croyle’s may not be that bad…we’ll just have to wait for the injury report.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

i take hope in the fact that he even tried to throw after the accident, got through the whole motion even. it seems like if it was THAT bad he wouldn’t be able to even think about playin catch on the sideline.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Irrelevant

It doesn’t matter how much he tried to throw on the sidelines, it matters if he’s capable of playing at a level that will help his team if he’s on the field.

As for throwing, Alex Smith played when his shoulder was shredded, so the fact that a QB can make a throwing motion doesn’t mean that he should be throwing.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, Huard looked damn good out there

Bowe (along with Moss and Welker) just needs to shake the rust off and spend time with that jugs machine. First game of the season and it was too close. Croyle’s throws were right on the money to him, and that touchdown pass was unstoppable.

We’ll take the win, but the uncertainty with Brady’s injury took the celebration down quite a bit and we’re all still reeling.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 7, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Meant to add that I hope Croyle is okay

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 7, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The rumor is a torn ACL

But that’s also coming from Jets camp.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know how our operation works around here...

We’ll probably never know the true extent of Brady’s injury.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 7, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And...

if the Chiefs treat Croyle’s injury like they did LJ’s last year, we may never really know what happened to him, either.

I hope both turn out okay.

by Seth_C on Sep 7, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Culpepper?

Anyone else looking for a job?

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Sep 7, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Culpepper, Simms

Keep in mind that Huard is getting old. The chances of him being knocked out of a game aren’t outrageous. If Croyle is out for an extended period we need not only a back-up but a competent back-up.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go for Quinn

He is young, and heavy enough to be durable. Plus the strength of a linebacker.(huuuaaahh)!

by Eric Allen on Sep 7, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I would love Quinn

I nearly lost it when he almost dropped to us two years ago.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it

but we would not have got D-Bowe!

by Eric Allen on Sep 7, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Chiefs would have traded the pick if Quinn had fallen to them.

They had just drafted Croyle the year before and obviously they believe in him.

Not saying they SHOULDNT have drafted Quinn if he had been available, just saying I think its what they would have done.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carl said he would have taken Quinn

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carl lies a lot

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant to put

an emphasis on said.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You Can Always Tell When Carl Is Lying

It happens whenever his lips move after someone asks him a difficult question :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 7, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think

you guys should forget about quinn. i grew up a browns fan and watched every game last year. Anderson finished the season like crap, started this one even worse, and Ive been saying for a while that I dont think he’ll be starting in Cleveland after this year. Maybe not even finish the season.

Browns fans want teh best QB to play, but they want that best QB to be Brady Quinn, very, very, badly.

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you

I live in South Bend and Quinn just isn’t as good as everyone thinks

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

Brady Quinn was probably the most NFL ready quarterback in the last five years.

Or he could have gotten on the field and blown it but he played in a pro style offense under Weis.

Quinn’s junior year Charlie Weis said he could run 75% of NFL offenses right then.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's draft

Tim Tebow next year

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This isn't college

Tebow’s scrambling abilities wouldn’t/shouldn’t be used in the NFL.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

completely agreed

Tebow isnt as good as people give him credit for in college, he’ll be even worse in the pros.

if you need to pass yourself out of a hole, there are a lot of people who can do it better than Tim Tebow.

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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh he's great in college

He’s an absolute force in college. One of the best right now.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Helllloooo.. Chase Daniel

ugh.

by focs on Sep 7, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that

would be smarter pick than tebow IMO

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give me a break

by ChiefDJ on Sep 7, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tebow

sucks at passing.

thats kinda important.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think what he means

Is that we could get Chase (personally I disagree) and spend our first rounder on something else.

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why don't we look at Simms -

I haven’t been following the posts as of late on this – so maybe I missed out on the conventional wisdom of why Simms should be passed on. He’s proven himself capable of being effective, he’s young, and he’s available. Word on the street is New England is bringing him in for a workout b/c of Brady’s injury. Why haven’t we considered him?

by camucr on Sep 7, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he’ll be in Boston monday to work out and you KNOW theyll sign him.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Given the choice

It’s pretty clear almost every free QB will be working out at NE. Quite a few might also workout at the Chiefs. If you were a QB and had the choice between the Chiefs and the Patriots, which would you choose?

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Sep 7, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The team you could become a starter

I’d thnk any player would want to have the chance to start. That would be my first choice. After today’s performance, even though we lost, anyone can see that we are better than most have given us credit. Given a couple of years, we will be a solid team with great potential.

by TXChiefan on Sep 7, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simms was an average quarterback

Before his spleen was removed. He hasn’t played in what, over 2 years? 3 years?

by primetime 07 on Sep 7, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey heres an idea:

what about vinny?

is he playin anywhere?

or flutie??

…DAN MARINO, ANYONE??!!

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Raid the Zombie leagues

Joe Montana

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Sep 7, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I called it Brodie is a joke

one big hit away and boom – but oh well we have a qb now in Huard you all will see that… Bowe missed more then one pass- and THE LAST PLAY of the game wasn’t pass int wtf is?! when can db hold the arms of reciever All in All New england is a joke they need to take down those banners Spygate hate them faggots cheatin b*tches. Bowe is on thin ice after that f’n game … and bad play calling also at the end ! GO TO ‘THE MAn’ TONY G.!!!

by Iconhulk on Sep 7, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs