Kansas City Chiefs At New England Patriots - Overflow Gameday Thread
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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Print4th quarter. Brodie's out. Damon's in.
See ya on the other side.
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Here's what I don't get
We let Huard improvize more, even though he has fewer physical tools. We control Brodie more, even though he has more. I just want an explanation. I know they can’t give one, but I really just want to talk to Herm and have him say "Well, Brodie has a disease that causes him to fumble on rollouts
i think the main reason
that drive just worked, was the newfound success of the run game. i think we’re giving damon a little too much credit there…its not like he completed a pass over 13 yards on that drive
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm telling you
I can totally see Huard leading this team to a victory, we start like last year, and end up right back where we were last year.
Tebow
would be a bad, bad, bad pick.
He will suck in the pros. He’d suck in college if a team could force him to pass, like ECU did to WVU yesterday or Michigan did to Florida last year. He can’t pass his way back in to a game, he needs to be able to threaten with the runs and options.
At least Huard is pretty old
It’s not like they’re going to stick with him long.
That TD just saved my fantasy week.
DBowe was hurtin me.
Didn't take me long
Because I never stopped. There’s nothing that suggests he will be a capable NFL quarterback.
youre nuts
but everyone is entitled to their opinion
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not throwing Brodie under the bus.
He wasn’t given the chance to throw it down field all game or to improvise. He was useless to us if we weren’t going to give him the opportunity to open it up.
Banny being Banny.
Im at LSU and I was praying he would fall to us in the draft. BOWE!!!!
by ChiefinSaintsland on Sep 7, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions
Very nice
Anyone else getting worried the linebackers names hadn’t been mentioned at all before that?
+1
its never good to have your leading tacklers be safeties
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Damon, comes in after a QB gets steamrolled in the 1st game of the season...
…sound familiar?
:)
Banny being Banny.
See my other problem is that
if you’re going to have an O-line that bad, shouldn’t you get mobile qbs? Or let them improvize?
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
We have a chance…..isnt that more than most of us expected? Awesome!!!!
by ChiefinSaintsland on Sep 7, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
Croyle
is a good kid with a hot wife and lots of talent.
Seems like he just deserves a chance to prove himself.
instead his star WR drops three passes, his coaching staff shuts him down, and God makes him the modern day Job.
I dont get it.
I'm not saying Brodie is better right now
I’m saying we’ve already invested a lot in the kid’s arm and we need to find out if he can be the guy.
as far as mobile qb goes
brodie is pretty shifty. he somehow manages to emerge from games with positive yards even with our crap oline.
yay
huard.
croyle will be back next week. if he plays as good then as he did this week, well be alright
not only into double coverage
but short
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
if brodie gets healthy
do you put him back in?
i know he wont, but im still askin
Naming my son Brodie Damon
ahh i see how it is
you think you’re a hot-shot because you have a 3d helmet…. (jk)
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
Having the ball with 2:30 left and a chance to send it to OT or win, couldn’t have expected that coming in today.
Banny being Banny.
how about an update on croyle's status?
the franchise depends on him as much as anybody for right now
Naming my son Brodie Damon
vince young
is down and rolling all over his knee.
here comes kerry collins
Naming my son Brodie Damon
I'm screwed
Palmer, Young, and Croyle are my QB’s for fantasy
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
ive got palmer
and manning
but i also have LJ.
not gonna be a fun year for me at this rate. my fantasy team and my real teams all suck
Naming my son Brodie Damon
lol
i heard they had to amputate Brady’s leg too. at least 4 weeks on the IR.
Naming my son Brodie Damon
Could never have expected a game where we would still be cheering with 2 min left!
by ChiefinSaintsland on Sep 7, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions
ready for my alfred impression?
hate to say i told you so
but i told you so
Naming my son Brodie Damon
agreed on running the ball..
let LJ have atleast one shot
Dayum.
OK, Damon. Time to make the fanbase happy.
If we don’t score a TD here, I will want to kill someone…
How do we not get PI on either of those two plays?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
Seriously.
They butchered our WRs like three times in the endzone, one earlier in the game and twice right there.
Hometown calls.
In the NFL
This sucks. We should be going into OT right now.
I thought they put a rule in a few years ago called pass interference for that very reason?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
game ova
lookin forward to seein brodie play next week and how bowe handles the dropsies
Naming my son Brodie Damon
just cause we didn't get blown out
doesn’t make it ok.
We aren’t in this for moral victories.
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate the Chiefs so much when they do stupid freaking crap!!!!!! 4 plays to get 5 yards and they get nothing.
I don't have a glimmer of hope.
We got no pressure on Cassell and Brodie wasn’t given any chances to open it up in the short amount of time he was in there. And he got hurt.
Maybe restricting Brodie kept us in the game, but it sure doesn’t make me feel confident about how our coaches feel about him.
Banny being Banny.
I wonder
if that’s why Huard plays better in this system. He doesn’t have the arm strength or tangibles to do any of the things big play QBs do, and that’s perfect for Herm. It makes you wonder what kind of QB IS perfect for this system.
That said, I’m pretty happy with this effort.
PLAY CHARLES MORE!
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If Devard Darling wasn't so damn slow
Maybe he would have had that touchdown.
Wow.
Still a great game overall, one where our D played damn awesome. Seriously. Besides that one 100 yard drive, our D played incredible. We have a good looking D on our hands.
Looking back on it in two days, if not just 2 hours, I think we will all be more than pleased with our performance.
But to lose that way, where we only had to pick up 5 yards in 4 plays, it really sucks right now. Oh, I am so pissed right now.
I'm not as happy about our D as you are.
We got no pressure whatsoever on Cassell and our D-Line got thrown around like rag dolls. We were really poor at blitzing.
I understand we didn’t give up 57 points, and our defense did not look poor, but I don’t think it is something to call “damn awesome.”
Banny being Banny.
When Brady was in
the Patriots DID NOT SCORE…that is a sign our Defense is at least moving in the right direction.
Plus Charles saw significant time.
And Cottam, Carr and Savage all saw significant playing time, although Savage’s was all on special teams.
8 impact players is pretty damn good, and we will almost assuredly be better by the end of the season.
Worst Playcalling Ever
Are you kidding me? 1st and 5 on the goal line and we don’t score? I don’t know what game you guys are watching but that is horrible. I am not happy with our coaching at all.
So we held the perfect team last season, today to
17 points
Brady to 76 yards and no TD’s
No RB over 60 yards
We only had one interception thrown
We didnt fumle the ball away
We had two sacks
WENT INTO NEW ENGLAND PLAYING A FOURTH OF OUR TEAM AS ROOKIES AND ONLY LOST IN THE LAST MINUTE BY 7 POINTS…
I think we did well
+1.
If we could have just scored a TD there at the end of the game, I would be completely and positively happy about this game. I wouldn’t even had really cared had New England got the ball and drove the ball down the field and scored (I would have watching it live, of course, and would have yelled profusely, without a doubt, but I would be much happier than I am now).
Even with the failure at the end, it was still an overall success, IMO.
I am disgusted....
…at the playcalling all game long…how many 1st downs did we run straight up the gut!?!?!?!?!? and like 2 play-action attempts the whole game?!?!?!?! it was awful…
Brady was out and we still did nothing…the defense is old and slow…the secondary all inexperienced….still NOTHING!?
The offense…or more accurately, whoever was determining those calls….needs fired right now…just for the rarity of Play-Action alone…
A large part of the running
was that we were trying to shorten the game as much as we could. I didn’t read anything that specifically had to do with it, but you got the feeling that we were trying to keep the clock moving as much as possible, and the easiest way to do that is to run the ball. I didn’t mind our first down runs, actually…
Well...
when they know you are gonna do it then take advantage of it and call a play action pass… for the love of roaf….
I agree that we should have used the play action more.
Without a doubt.
I’m just saying why we ran so often. I agree, though, it would have been awesome if, at least once or twice, we would have done play action on a 1st down and ran D-Bowe downfield and have Croyle chuck it downwards. We needed one big play to get back in the game (which we got with the DVD catch-and-run, but our failure at the goalline rendered it useless).
A day of surprises
Both starting QBs knocked out and a “heart stopper” to the very end.
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Agree on LJ.
After I was done screaming my head off because of DVD’s catch-and-run, which took awhile, I calmly said that we would, clearly, go with this running back named Larry Johnson four consecutive times, and we would assuredly score.
I didn’t mind the fade to D-Bo on first down, it was a good play and usually The Show is money in the bank, he just dropped this one. But after that, it should have been three consecutive LJ runs up the middle, with the only exception if it was 4th-and-more-than-5. I trust LJ a helluva lot more than Damon in that situation, even if they were playing the run. And we had more than enough time.
Ugh.
No....
I didnt want them to run LJ once…It was under a minute with no TO’s are you kidding?! I was sure they would do Play Action to Tony or D-Bo when they even put him in…
HORRIBLE….
You are flat-out wrong.
First off, 0:53 is more than enough time to run the ball with zero TDs, as you should still have 0:25 seconds or so to run some more passes. An incompletion stops the clock, obviously, and as long as you don’t get sacked you have more than enough time to throw three balls up in the endzone.
Secondly, we had a TO left going into the goal-to-go situation, and we used it AFTER the LJ run. And, running and calling timeout afterward, we turned the ball over with 0:37 left on the clock. We had more than enough time to get at least one more run off.
Why we didn’t was idiotic.
What? Poor clock management?
That’s kind of a new phenomenon here…
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Herm definitely has some positives, but he needs to hire some clock genius (there has to exist someone out there who considers this their title, right?) and have him planted squarely at his side in similar situations.
Herm is just absolutely awful in the end.
yes...
I was wrong about the no TO’s thing…I meant I wouldnt have run him any after the unsuccessful one (which is when we had no TO’s)
This...is flat out wrong, sir...
“it should have been three consecutive LJ runs up the middle”
one run is excusable…but dumb given the history of running in that game…
hah i saw that
that was just brutal coaching. We have a top 3 running back and 5 yards out we run him once? Thats just stupid. Plain and simple. As for running on first down, I am fine with that . However, it is the running on second down that really frustrates me, especially after we only gain 3 yards on our first play. Want to know why we can’t run the ball? Because I can go 90% when guessing our playcalling. Try this at home; right down your guess, and see what you end up with. This is ridiculous. Who ever is resposible for the playcalling should be fired. Bottom line. I don’t care if it is just the first game, we could have won, but we lost because of our coaching alone.
I agree....
that has made me rethink it some…It was so predictable it was like last season all over again…Where is our offense from the Chicago game?!?!?!?!? seriously?!?!?! Run first down, whatever….but every first and second was either a run or a quick pass it seemed like….we werent outplayed but I think scott linehan could have outcoached us on that one…
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