Kansas City Chiefs At New England Patriots - Overflow Gameday Thread
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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4th quarter. Brodie's out. Damon's in.
See ya on the other side.
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Damon Huard
Running the offense like a well oiled machine!
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
He gives us a better shot than Croyle.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMON TIME!!!
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ohhhhhhhhh yeah
thats what im talkin about
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's what I don't get
We let Huard improvize more, even though he has fewer physical tools. We control Brodie more, even though he has more. I just want an explanation. I know they can’t give one, but I really just want to talk to Herm and have him say "Well, Brodie has a disease that causes him to fumble on rollouts
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think the main reason
that drive just worked, was the newfound success of the run game. i think we’re giving damon a little too much credit there…its not like he completed a pass over 13 yards on that drive
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwayne Bowe
is ridiculously good. I can’t wait till we have a QB to throw to him.
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm telling you
I can totally see Huard leading this team to a victory, we start like last year, and end up right back where we were last year.
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But with improvement
And another top 10 pick to snag a QB.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW!!!!
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow
would be a bad, bad, bad pick.
He will suck in the pros. He’d suck in college if a team could force him to pass, like ECU did to WVU yesterday or Michigan did to Florida last year. He can’t pass his way back in to a game, he needs to be able to threaten with the runs and options.
by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Huard is pretty old
It’s not like they’re going to stick with him long.
by KCScuba on Sep 7, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowe is just huge
I was not a fan when we drafted him but I’m happy to eat my words now.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That TD just saved my fantasy week.
DBowe was hurtin me.
by KCScuba on Sep 7, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i knew
it wouldnt take you guys long to inexplicably start throwing brodie under the bus
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't take me long
Because I never stopped. There’s nothing that suggests he will be a capable NFL quarterback.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
youre nuts
but everyone is entitled to their opinion
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not throwing Brodie under the bus.
He wasn’t given the chance to throw it down field all game or to improvise. He was useless to us if we weren’t going to give him the opportunity to open it up.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there went
whatever momentum we just picked up
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im at LSU and I was praying he would fall to us in the draft. BOWE!!!!
by ChiefinSaintsland on Sep 7, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure is nice
When your kicker can make it past the 20 yard line nearly every time!
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amazing defensive stand.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very nice
Anyone else getting worried the linebackers names hadn’t been mentioned at all before that?
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
its never good to have your leading tacklers be safeties
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Huard. Show everyone why you are the best backup in the league
by ChiefsWolf24 on Sep 7, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd best
Cleveland would argue with you about that.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon, comes in after a QB gets steamrolled in the 1st game of the season...
…sound familiar?
:)
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
See my other problem is that
if you’re going to have an O-line that bad, shouldn’t you get mobile qbs? Or let them improvize?
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gunther's taking the cuffs off
DJ is going to be a Pro Bowler this year.
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have a chance…..isnt that more than most of us expected? Awesome!!!!
by ChiefinSaintsland on Sep 7, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I see the idea behind that play
Let Bowe catch it and use his size to break a tackle.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking pretty good. Only been beat once that I can recall
by ChiefsWolf24 on Sep 7, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems well
Our run blocking really picked up in the 4th quarter.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Croyle
is a good kid with a hot wife and lots of talent.
Seems like he just deserves a chance to prove himself.
instead his star WR drops three passes, his coaching staff shuts him down, and God makes him the modern day Job.
I dont get it.
by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We arent doing a good job of stopping the run at the D-Line
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying Brodie is better right now
I’m saying we’ve already invested a lot in the kid’s arm and we need to find out if he can be the guy.
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. Three and out again. Cant ask for much more
by ChiefsWolf24 on Sep 7, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as far as mobile qb goes
brodie is pretty shifty. he somehow manages to emerge from games with positive yards even with our crap oline.
by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well
so much for our qbs playing mistake free football
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yay
huard.
croyle will be back next week. if he plays as good then as he did this week, well be alright
by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah
That’s the Damon Huard we all know and love.
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not only into double coverage
but short
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
veteran qbs
are supposed to be able to recognize double coverage
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
in other news
that righteous kill movie might be mildly entertaining.
by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where are all of the Brodie haters?
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Glenn Dorsey!!
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if brodie gets healthy
do you put him back in?
i know he wont, but im still askin
Naming my son Brodie Damon
by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pat Thomas:
Not so good right now.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ahh i see how it is
you think you’re a hot-shot because you have a 3d helmet…. (jk)
by The DBowe Show on Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Having the ball with 2:30 left and a chance to send it to OT or win, couldn’t have expected that coming in today.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's all I asked for
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how about an update on croyle's status?
the franchise depends on him as much as anybody for right now
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Savage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by rustdog on Sep 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
vince young
is down and rolling all over his knee.
here comes kerry collins
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm screwed
Palmer, Young, and Croyle are my QB’s for fantasy
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive got palmer
and manning
but i also have LJ.
not gonna be a fun year for me at this rate. my fantasy team and my real teams all suck
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Croyle’s gone for the season. Deal with it.
by rustdog on Sep 7, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could never have expected a game where we would still be cheering with 2 min left!
by ChiefinSaintsland on Sep 7, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of tackling
I just posted the Holtzclaw watch
by Lanier63 on Sep 7, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just peed my pants
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so excited
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY HELL!!!
I just caught up like 10 minutes ago.
What a game.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OH......MY.......
GOD!
We finally get a pass over five yards, and it goes to the NE five!!!!!!!!!
by Seth_C on Sep 7, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ready for my alfred impression?
hate to say i told you so
but i told you so
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RUN THE BALL!
Dwayne Bowe is awesome, but he drops way too many passes.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we get a TD
Do you go for 2?
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
We’re in NE
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on running the ball..
let LJ have atleast one shot
by cah05 on Sep 7, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Bill Belicheck
for giving us a free play
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WE HAD 4 DOWNS TO GET 5 YARDS
That is what we do best! COME ON!
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we had Brodie
we could boot leg
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but we wouldnt
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dayum.
OK, Damon. Time to make the fanbase happy.
If we don’t score a TD here, I will want to kill someone…
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How do we not get PI on either of those two plays?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
by 306008 on Sep 7, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
They butchered our WRs like three times in the endzone, one earlier in the game and twice right there.
Hometown calls.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In the NFL
This sucks. We should be going into OT right now.
I thought they put a rule in a few years ago called pass interference for that very reason?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
by 306008 on Sep 7, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
game ova
lookin forward to seein brodie play next week and how bowe handles the dropsies
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good times. It could have been much worse.
by rustdog on Sep 7, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just cause we didn't get blown out
doesn’t make it ok.
We aren’t in this for moral victories.
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
by 306008 on Sep 7, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate the Chiefs so much when they do stupid freaking crap!!!!!! 4 plays to get 5 yards and they get nothing.
by Vince D on Sep 7, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
blah
i wish he couldve finished this game.
i think he wins it by not throwing that int, being able to go five yards when we need it.
depending on play calling of course
also i am an alabama fan
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by troy145 on Sep 7, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too bad
I have a glimmer of hope
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by KCking on Sep 7, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a glimmer of hope.
We got no pressure on Cassell and Brodie wasn’t given any chances to open it up in the short amount of time he was in there. And he got hurt.
Maybe restricting Brodie kept us in the game, but it sure doesn’t make me feel confident about how our coaches feel about him.
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
if that’s why Huard plays better in this system. He doesn’t have the arm strength or tangibles to do any of the things big play QBs do, and that’s perfect for Herm. It makes you wonder what kind of QB IS perfect for this system.
That said, I’m pretty happy with this effort.
PLAY CHARLES MORE!
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Devard Darling wasn't so damn slow
Maybe he would have had that touchdown.
by Vince D on Sep 7, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Still a great game overall, one where our D played damn awesome. Seriously. Besides that one 100 yard drive, our D played incredible. We have a good looking D on our hands.
Looking back on it in two days, if not just 2 hours, I think we will all be more than pleased with our performance.
But to lose that way, where we only had to pick up 5 yards in 4 plays, it really sucks right now. Oh, I am so pissed right now.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not as happy about our D as you are.
We got no pressure whatsoever on Cassell and our D-Line got thrown around like rag dolls. We were really poor at blitzing.
I understand we didn’t give up 57 points, and our defense did not look poor, but I don’t think it is something to call “damn awesome.”
Banny being Banny.
by JobDDT on Sep 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Brady was in
the Patriots DID NOT SCORE…that is a sign our Defense is at least moving in the right direction.
by PVChiefsfan on Sep 8, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 started
Cox, Flowers, Dorsey, Albert
by Vince D on Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Charles saw significant time.
And Cottam, Carr and Savage all saw significant playing time, although Savage’s was all on special teams.
8 impact players is pretty damn good, and we will almost assuredly be better by the end of the season.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe
that Chan went away from LJ by the goalling.
by Ilamuku on Sep 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst Playcalling Ever
Are you kidding me? 1st and 5 on the goal line and we don’t score? I don’t know what game you guys are watching but that is horrible. I am not happy with our coaching at all.
by Ben S on Sep 7, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So we held the perfect team last season, today to
17 points
Brady to 76 yards and no TD’s
No RB over 60 yards
We only had one interception thrown
We didnt fumle the ball away
We had two sacks
WENT INTO NEW ENGLAND PLAYING A FOURTH OF OUR TEAM AS ROOKIES AND ONLY LOST IN THE LAST MINUTE BY 7 POINTS…
I think we did well
by Lanier63 on Sep 7, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1.
If we could have just scored a TD there at the end of the game, I would be completely and positively happy about this game. I wouldn’t even had really cared had New England got the ball and drove the ball down the field and scored (I would have watching it live, of course, and would have yelled profusely, without a doubt, but I would be much happier than I am now).
Even with the failure at the end, it was still an overall success, IMO.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am disgusted....
…at the playcalling all game long…how many 1st downs did we run straight up the gut!?!?!?!?!? and like 2 play-action attempts the whole game?!?!?!?! it was awful…
Brady was out and we still did nothing…the defense is old and slow…the secondary all inexperienced….still NOTHING!?
The offense…or more accurately, whoever was determining those calls….needs fired right now…just for the rarity of Play-Action alone…
by woodman212 on Sep 7, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A large part of the running
was that we were trying to shorten the game as much as we could. I didn’t read anything that specifically had to do with it, but you got the feeling that we were trying to keep the clock moving as much as possible, and the easiest way to do that is to run the ball. I didn’t mind our first down runs, actually…
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
when they know you are gonna do it then take advantage of it and call a play action pass… for the love of roaf….
by woodman212 on Sep 7, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that we should have used the play action more.
Without a doubt.
I’m just saying why we ran so often. I agree, though, it would have been awesome if, at least once or twice, we would have done play action on a 1st down and ran D-Bowe downfield and have Croyle chuck it downwards. We needed one big play to get back in the game (which we got with the DVD catch-and-run, but our failure at the goalline rendered it useless).
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A day of surprises
Both starting QBs knocked out and a “heart stopper” to the very end.
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by MaPatsFan on Sep 7, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree on LJ.
After I was done screaming my head off because of DVD’s catch-and-run, which took awhile, I calmly said that we would, clearly, go with this running back named Larry Johnson four consecutive times, and we would assuredly score.
I didn’t mind the fade to D-Bo on first down, it was a good play and usually The Show is money in the bank, he just dropped this one. But after that, it should have been three consecutive LJ runs up the middle, with the only exception if it was 4th-and-more-than-5. I trust LJ a helluva lot more than Damon in that situation, even if they were playing the run. And we had more than enough time.
Ugh.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No....
I didnt want them to run LJ once…It was under a minute with no TO’s are you kidding?! I was sure they would do Play Action to Tony or D-Bo when they even put him in…
HORRIBLE….
by woodman212 on Sep 7, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You are flat-out wrong.
First off, 0:53 is more than enough time to run the ball with zero TDs, as you should still have 0:25 seconds or so to run some more passes. An incompletion stops the clock, obviously, and as long as you don’t get sacked you have more than enough time to throw three balls up in the endzone.
Secondly, we had a TO left going into the goal-to-go situation, and we used it AFTER the LJ run. And, running and calling timeout afterward, we turned the ball over with 0:37 left on the clock. We had more than enough time to get at least one more run off.
Why we didn’t was idiotic.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? Poor clock management?
That’s kind of a new phenomenon here…
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
Herm definitely has some positives, but he needs to hire some clock genius (there has to exist someone out there who considers this their title, right?) and have him planted squarely at his side in similar situations.
Herm is just absolutely awful in the end.
by rockchalk on Sep 7, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he had one
I honestly thought he had someone who helped him with that.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 7, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes...
I was wrong about the no TO’s thing…I meant I wouldnt have run him any after the unsuccessful one (which is when we had no TO’s)
by woodman212 on Sep 7, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This...is flat out wrong, sir...
“it should have been three consecutive LJ runs up the middle”
one run is excusable…but dumb given the history of running in that game…
by woodman212 on Sep 7, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Scott Fujita just made the game winning INT for New Orleans. I miss that guy.
by Ridiculous Matt on Sep 7, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hah i saw that
that was just brutal coaching. We have a top 3 running back and 5 yards out we run him once? Thats just stupid. Plain and simple. As for running on first down, I am fine with that . However, it is the running on second down that really frustrates me, especially after we only gain 3 yards on our first play. Want to know why we can’t run the ball? Because I can go 90% when guessing our playcalling. Try this at home; right down your guess, and see what you end up with. This is ridiculous. Who ever is resposible for the playcalling should be fired. Bottom line. I don’t care if it is just the first game, we could have won, but we lost because of our coaching alone.
by Ben S on Sep 7, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree....
that has made me rethink it some…It was so predictable it was like last season all over again…Where is our offense from the Chicago game?!?!?!?!? seriously?!?!?! Run first down, whatever….but every first and second was either a run or a quick pass it seemed like….we werent outplayed but I think scott linehan could have outcoached us on that one…
by woodman212 on Sep 7, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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