Kansas City Chiefs Do The Unimaginable And Beat The Denver Broncos
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs got all the breaks in a game where they needed everything to go their way. The Denver Broncos stepped into Arrowhead as 9.5 point favorites and walk away losers in a 33-19 Chiefs victory.
Stats are here
Highlights:
- Larry Johnson continued his domination of the Broncos in a 28 carry, 198 yard, 2 touchdown performance that reminded us of the LJ of old.
- Damon Huard defined the words journeyman in a 160 yard, 1 touchdown performance in which he completed 75% of his passes. Impressive? Nah. Good enough? Works for me!
- The rookie corners, Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers, played a magnificent game in which each recovered a fumble. Carr stole one of Cutler's passes while Flowers nearly did the same. Carr, in particular, greatly minimized the impact of Brandon Marshall who is Cutler's biggest weapon.
Yes, there were holes on both sides of the ball. This game isn't indicative of what we will play like every week. But there's no time for that now. We got our first win. Tony Gonzalez is one yard away from the record.
I've never been so happy to say we are 1-3! Go Chiefs!!
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The rookie corners
…were extremely impressive. Also, DJ looked spectacular as well, a forced fumble and an int.
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
by KCking on Sep 28, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
28 carries for 198 yards
What is that, like… 7 yards a carry?!?!
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So many good things
Larry Johnson is back
Derrick Johnson has (I hope?) his breakout game
Brian Johnston, first sack!
Rookie corners play excellent against good passing offense… and with so much upside potential!
Novak was 3/4…. not too shabby! really should have made that one though.
DANTRELL SAVAGE!!!!
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is so bad that...
I hope Sams is unavailable next week!!
NO ill will intended. but he should’ve been cut in the last roster cut down.
Savage is a true Special teams player.
by sad, sad, sad!!! on Sep 29, 2008 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woo-hoo!
As one who has wanted to trade Larry Johnson, it’s BBQ crow tonight!
Last week he was improved. Today he was inspired.
by sunny D on Sep 28, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will not lie...
I got so very emotional in the final minutes I teared up a small amount (NOT CRYING)…and then realized it was a single win…and how pathetic it was…But it was just a very emotional, hard-fought battle…
- Rookie corners looked great…
-Pass-Blocking looked better…even without Albert (it IS Denver tho)
-I still had a problem with some play-calling in the end, when we ran on 3rd and 4 or whatever instead of PA to Tony…which would have gotten a TD AND the record…
- With that said, the play-calling on the TD drive before that was outstanding…the quick-fakes, the end-around fake…all were very very satisfying…
-DJ looked great….
oh my, i love the Chiefs…
by woodman212 on Sep 28, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We couldn't throw at the end..
if we threw a pick and denver went down to tie or win the game i would have killed herm myself. It sucks but we had to do it.
by Ben S on Sep 28, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was a different series...
…it was the one we ended up settling for a FG…is all…
by woodman212 on Sep 28, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got emotional at the end
Not in a teary eyed way, but I couldn’t stop laughing. I don’t think I’ve ever been this happy during a Chiefs win.
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to KC for the win. The KC Defense plays an exciting swarm style,
turnovers lead to victories, and the KC Defense did a great job of creating them. Thank goodness the Broncos don’t have to play in KC until next year.
by Arctic Bronco on Sep 28, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Denver run defense
That’s the only reason we were in this game. When LJ gets going, the rest of the offense follows suit.
I still want Cutler, though.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no words.
That was quite a performance. If Bowe could have played against New England like he did today we would be 2-2. Not to mention the Raiders and Falcons are teams that we should be able to beat. It’s just one game, but I’m seeing some potential growing.
by KCScuba on Sep 28, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From 0-16 to 13-3
In the predictions category? (not meaning you necessarily, Scuba)
by sunny D on Sep 28, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
The fact that we didn’t win those first 3 games says that we’re young and inconsistent. But I would say seeing their potential from this game changed my prediction from 1-15 to maybe 5-11.
by KCScuba on Sep 28, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not even that
It shows that we CAN look good. It’s promising.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this feels amazing i teared up too..i cant even think of the words its been so long since i felt this and we chiefs fans we stuck it through all the way and were all in this to the end i’ve never been prouder to be a chiefs fan!!
GO CHIEFS!!
by kcchiefsfan56 on Sep 28, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it was Carr that was matched up with Marshall
nearly every single play. He is like 3 inches taller than Flowers, making him the natural choice to guard the freakishly tall-and-athletic Marshall.
Honestly, I think Carr will be better than Flowers in another year or two. And that isn’t an indictment of Flowers as much of a statement as to how good Carr really will be. He showed me a helluva lot today.
And, breaks or not, I think it was obvious that, on this afternoon, we were the better team. Now, that isn’t to say that the Broncos wouldn’t beat us at least 7 or 8 times out of 10 given the chance, but we played better than them on both sides of the ball tonight. Particularly in (for the most part) shutting down their offense, which had run roughshod over their first three opponents.
Plus, Demorrio Williams and Dmitri Patterson played out of their minds, giving us some hope for an even stronger defensive unit. Honestly, if our D plays this well, we should win quite a few games. Obviously they won’t, we are way too young to be that consistently good (and one could certainly argue not talented enough, particularly in the LB unit), but I would venture to say that every time we play this well on D we will win, as long as it isn’t some team significantly better than us and on the road. Sure, it looks semi-flukey because of the 4 TOs, but we physically forced all of them, as we obviously go for the strip far more often than most teams. Plus, we were winning from start-to-finish (just about, at least), and like I said earlier, were clearly the better team TODAY.
Because, for today only, we looked like a halfway decent football team.
5-11 HERE WE COME!
by rockchalk on Sep 28, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good call
Now I remember Flowers jacking Eddie Royal near the sidelines.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they both had tremendous games.
Royal was virtually non-existent.
by rockchalk on Sep 28, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Royal had over 100 yards receiving. That’s not non-existent…especially for a rookie playing his first game in Arrowhead.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 28, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of those yards amounted to anything though.
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All Yards Amount To Something
He was productive while the game was still in doubt. Those yards weren’t conceded to him…he worked for them and he was productive. Nonexistent is when you don’t break double digits in yardage.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 28, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was my bad.
Obviously, I was watching a completely different game than the actual game ;).
Sorry.
Still, I do believe that both corners played exceptionally well.
But again, my bad.
by rockchalk on Sep 29, 2008 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pass Defense Was Solid
The corners did a good job, but I think the Denver receivers were also pretty solid yesterday. Most of Denver’s problems came on errors by Cutler which the Chiefs did an excellent job of capitalizing on. Cutler got his yardage but he looked as bad as you’ll ever see a 300 yard passer look out there.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 29, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many of those yards
came when we were up by two scores and playing prevent? I know I saw Royal grab a few passes when Cutler was 12-yarding us to death.
by PVChiefsfan on Sep 29, 2008 5:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they have NFL football in India?
I hope Chris didn’t miss this!
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
He won’t know what hit him!
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although
It’s like 3AM where he is. A nice surprise when he wakes up.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when he wakes up?
we all know that chris is out on a late night bender in india and still partying
by TimGrunhard61 on Sep 28, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After this victory maybe
I imagine Miss Arrowhead Pride will pull in the reins.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A "W"
wow…nice, offense, defense, and special teams are all stepped up! I will pick LJ as the player of the game. He makes Broncos D line exhausted…
AD
by ali_djoo on Sep 28, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shannon Sharpe on the post game
Incomprehensible gibberish
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 28, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Shannon Sharpe
Just say, one time, that TG is the best.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I wish he had gotten just two more yards on that last pass
to beat Sharpe’s record
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He brought up that TG did not break his record
I think he called LJ “gran ma ma?”
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 28, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
The PARADE has been challenged.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he refuses
TG is the best of all time and he knows it
by TimGrunhard61 on Sep 28, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's his "thing"
What a waste of airtime
by Pauli on Sep 28, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an announcer
He doesn’t really bring anything to the table. Just annoying.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Yeah, the tool….he holds on to the yardage record by ONE for another week…
by woodman212 on Sep 28, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know that Denver had a run Defense
We need to start drafting lots of D-Linemen, KC has done a good job of using 1st day picks on the D-Line
by Arctic Bronco on Sep 28, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
by the way
How about the hard hitting special teams?
They were great!
defense played like a Gunther defense and
Why the hell does Herm hate TG? jealousy?
Big Bear
by bigbearomaha on Sep 28, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Herm running down to the end zone to see if TG was okay
proves how much he cares about him.
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was a show for the fans.
ever since Herm came here, he has given TG the low end of the pool.
check the stats. herm arrives, Tony gets hemmed in
by bigbearomaha on Sep 28, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Why do people still have to be negative when the team wins? Can’t you just let go of your hate for one afternoon?
by ChiefDJ on Sep 28, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do you have to see hate everywhere?
It my observation that Herm Edwards doen’t fully appreciate TG.
is it only safe and PC to express a thought as long as it’s not right after a game?
quit crying.
by bigbearomaha on Sep 28, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get over it
Tony G had his third biggest season of his career last year. Doesn’t sound like he’s unappreciated to me.
Herm goes out and checks on Tony G which I don’t believe he’s ever done for another player and all you can do is try to trash the guy by saying he was putting on a show.
Sounds to me like you’re the one with a problem.
by ChiefDJ on Sep 28, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’re the one who’s crying about what I said.
I also said many positive things throughout here, yet you chose to focus on this.
back to you chion
Big Bear
by bigbearomaha on Sep 28, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know where you're getting your info,
but to say that Herm hates TG and hems him in is an opinion that doesn’t appear to be backed up with fact.
TG’s numbers (off of yahoo fantasy football…sorry I can’t get it to line up well):
Season Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
2003 Kansas City 16 71 916 57.3 12.9 67 4.9 48 10
2004 Kansas City 16 102 1258 78.6 12.3 32 4.3 69 7
2005 Kansas City 16 78 905 56.6 11.6 39 4.1 45 2
2006 Kansas City 15 73 900 60.0 12.3 57 4.1 54 5
2007 Kansas City 16 99 1172 73.3 11.8 31 3.2 59 5
Doesn’t look to me like he’s had any noticeable drop w/ Herm. Last year was a pretty darn good year, and ‘06 almost mirrors ’05 except for a couple more TDs. Maybe I’m missing something…
by thehulk on Sep 28, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're missing
You’re missing the Herm disgust.
It colors everything brown, which is why i prefer the rose tinted glasses.
by ChiefDJ on Sep 28, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Pretty much agree with Hulk and DJ…I dislike Herm a lot but I haven’t seen anything to indicate that he hates Tony G out there. He’s getting the same plays as always, he’s just the victim of some really crappy QB play (which is mostly Herm’s fault for playing Thigpen so much). But Tony G isn’t getting screwed over any more than any other receiver out there.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 28, 2008 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with you?
We all love Gonzales as much as you do. Don’t try to make him a martyr. He’s not complaining and you shouldn’t be either.
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because Herm wants to run
TE blocking is more important to him than TE catching. No disrespect to Gonzales there on Herm’s part.
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Stats
Don’t agree with what you are saying Big Bear.
TG’s stats have stayed consistent before and during the Herm era. In fact, he had the 3rd best year of his career under the Herm era.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's About Right
He had less yardage than Bowe last year, but that’s really to be expected from TEs anyway (even great ones) because they don’t have as many opportunities for big plays in open space as WRs do because they’re running more routes underneath coverage.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 28, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are hilarious
I make what was originally supposed to be a throw away line and the herm apologists, instead of seeing everything else I wrote jumped on that line.
After that, I got annoyed and kept up because it’s utterly ridiculous that a bunch of supposed grownups cannot handle anything but sunshine on their one win day.
So yes, I fed the dogs, they started yapping at something stupid and kept coming back for scraps ignoring the steak that was already there.
I promise, I will never post anything here again that might upset the delicate sensitivities of whiners and apologists.
For anyone else who was able to see BS for what it was and just let it roll, good work.
Big Bear
by bigbearomaha on Sep 29, 2008 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're completely out of line
so yes, if that means you will have to self-censor, whether you need to make yourself feel better about being proven wrong by calling the fact-checkers whiners and apologists, then go ahead, but please do proceed w/ the self-censorship if you’re not going to be ok w/ a rebuttal.
you’re absolutely right that your first 2 lines were positives, but the absurdity of the TG “hate” comment, and then saying that Herm hems him in, demands a counter if we’re going to continue to call ourselves educated Chiefs fans.
Gotta be able to dish it out AND take it, if you’re going to demand that others “let it roll”.
now let’s get back to football…nothing dumber than getting pissed off at someone via internet, i just don’t think you’ve been very adult yourself.
by thehulk on Sep 29, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you make an assertion
That’s cool but be ready to back up your claim.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 29, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herm Apologists?
If you’ve bothered to read anything I’ve written then you’d known exactly how low my opinion of our head coach is. I just do the research to back my claims, I don’t pull them out of thin air like you did with the Herm hates Tony G comment.
Big boy rules out here…when you make an unsubstantiated claim and someone calls you on it, then either back it up with some actual evidence or man up and admit that you were wrong. Otherwise you’re just asking to be treated like a child.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 29, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie Corners
Most impressive. I’m really liking Carr. Was it last week they were trying to exploit his experience or lack thereof and he held his own? After today’s performance his future looks bright. Johnston sack was exciting, as was DJ’s breakout game. I wish every game had this many high notes to give us inspiration for the future. Too bad it had to come at the expense of Albert getting injured : ^ (
I would tell Taylor AND Richardson to get ready. I’m pretty close to sticking a fork in McIntosh, sucker looks dunzo
by KansasCityShuffle on Sep 28, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Progress...
I dont want to get carried away with how much better we played…it was a Denver defense after all…I certainly dont think we will have a winning record…
However, it is important to not understate the mental side of a losing streak, how you constantly will panic and make mistakes…Page summed it up this week and said they were gonna just start playing and having fun….
I think the monkey is off our back…the pressure of a winless season is gone…now we can just play…and I am NOT saying we will be amazing…I am thinking we will play more consistent and maybe get a few more wins…
hopefully….GO CHIEFS
by woodman212 on Sep 28, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares if it was Denver's D
Our offensive has been the problem, and now we are showing some progress. At least this builds a foundation next week for our offense
by Prospero15 on Sep 28, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
....
I am not saying that….
the point is/was that this is more important mentally than anything…
also the playcalling on that big TD drive was amazing…i loved it
by woodman212 on Sep 28, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word
They look very solid so far.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our locker room
NEEDED this win. I think I was more excited by the smiles and cheer on the sidelines in the final moments than anything. Great game! GO CHIEFS!
by KansasCityShuffle on Sep 28, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now all we have to do
Is not get too cocky and overconfident
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Sep 28, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
which is still a lot better than 4-0.
by bigbearomaha on Sep 28, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT
we know what it feels like to win again…there is far less pressure…I still think we will be inconsistent…but…yea…
by woodman212 on Sep 28, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, there will be ups and downs.
I’m just glad the up came against my least favorite team!
by Vince D on Sep 28, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
This game was just awesome, Carr was fantastic so was flowers and how about Dimtri Patterson he was good too. I’d have to say the biggest surpise was the Right side of the offenseive line. Macintosh had his best game of the season and alot of the runs went to the right side, lets give them a little bit of props, oh and Herb taylor coming in for Albert did a fantastic job too
by IamtheGreatest on Sep 28, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on McIntosh
He played a solid game on the right side, finally. I was really shocked at how much good blocking LJ was getting on the right side.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 28, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we saw too
why its a good thing they haven’t moved Herb Taylor to the right side. I still remember when Willie Roaf went down and all we had behind him was Jordon Black.
Who knows how this game would have gone if we hadn’t had a solid player backing Albert up when he got hurt.
by ChiefDJ on Sep 28, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeping A Better Tackle In Reserve
Is a terrible idea when the guy who’s starting is as bad as McIntosh has been. If they want to flip him back to the left side when Albert’s hurt that’s understandable, but Taylor should be getting the majority of reps on the right when Albert’s healthy.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Sep 28, 2008 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But as we have seen
Its not that easy to just flip guys back and forth.
Taylor had been practicing LT all preseason and training camp. If they had then switched him to the right a game or two and Albert went down this game, you’re going to ask him to forget everything he’s practiced the last two weeks and go back over there.
It sounds like it shouldn’t be that big a deal but for an offensive tackle it is. You can’t keep flipping them back and forth. You’ll ruin the guy. Its a big part of the reason Jordan Black stunk. His first several years they moved him all over the line and he never got his technique down to the point that he was absolutely worthless.
by ChiefDJ on Sep 29, 2008 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea but,
Herb also played EVERY position on the o-line in college. I know that does NOT always translate to the pro’s, but it shows versatility, the ability to adapt to different situations.
by Eric Allen on Sep 29, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a great feeling
It’s been almost a year…wow a great feeling it is to watch a win. even sweeter against broncos. Larry was fantastic (liked the big smile on his face as he hugged herm after his last touchdown), defense more than came through, and huard was able to facilitate the game efficiently (shoulders above thigpen’s performance last week).
13-3: oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by KCWolfff on Sep 28, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
actually
Herb Taylor is considered a Swing tackle where he can play both sides. there is an article about Damieon Macintosh at KCstar.com and it talks about how Herb Taylor is ready to go in at RT if needed. I guarantee if Macintosh would have gone down instead of Albert, Taylor still would have gone in
by IamtheGreatest on Sep 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep I heard
Herm say earlier in the year that was Herb’s saving grace that he was a swing tackle.
by Eric Allen on Sep 29, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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