The Patriots reportedly signed Maurice Price this week after the Chiefs waived him earlier this month and sent him to their practice squad.
The Chiefs have not announced the move, but multiple Boston-area media outlets, such as the Boston Globe, reported the acquisition. Price also was removed from the Chiefs' online roster.
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i think we'll live to regret this
he will fit in well with the patriots. Hagans isn’t half the receiver Price is.
So If He Turns Out To Be Good With The Pats
Does that mean that we can all finally admit that Herm Edwards doesn’t really have any ability to judge player talent outside of defensive backs?
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
I have to think so.
Hagans is such a disaster – I can’t see what would justify wasting a roster spot on him when Maurice Price sat on the practice squad. I don’t think I was hallucinating during the preseason when Price looked like a pretty excellent rookie receiver.
Also, Where the hell is Will Franklin the last two games? He’s not injured, but I haven’t seen him play at all.
by KS on Sep 24, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
SUM BEE!
I really liked Price and was pulling for him to make this team. The Patriots have been known to be good talent evaluators and they took a chance on him, I think that just about says it all.
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Go Chiefs!
We need a "where are they now" post
Listing all the players who Herm cut from our roster and were picked up by other teams and went on to get superbowl rings and stuff.
It’ll make us feel bad because there isn’t really a complementary list of players discarded by other teams which we picked up who are now super awesome.
Blame my wife!
Tynes and Kawika Mitchell
Tynes was nothing special as a kicker but he was better than Novak, and Medlock (probably not Carney, though, who is having a good year so far this year).
Kawika Mitchell was a key component of that Giants defense and he’s helped turn Buffalo’s defense into an outstanding squad this year. Funny…you’d think we might have wanted to keep him since we’re pretty hard up for linebackers right now.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Add Kicker
To the list of positions Herm is terrible at evaluating. Right up there with QB, offensive line, and linebacker.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Youth Movement
Herm wants to be the guy who discovers the guy. That’s it. That’s why he plays the young guys.
Basically
A scout trying to validate his predictions? I could definitely see that.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Excellent insight, ashley
Herm wants to be the guy who discovers the guy.
Any strength taken to an extreme can become a weakness. I think you nailed it.
Gosh dangit
Why did he have to go to the freaking Patriots?! You know a receiver is good when the Patriots think he’s good enough for their team. Our best preseason receiver… why do we still have BJ Sams? I feel like I could do a better job as head coach than Herm Edwards.
The Pats
Make all WRs look great. It’s that Tom guy. He’s good. We should sign him next year. And Moss.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 24, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Whoa...
There are a lot of reasons to second guess Herm and the facts in this post don’t merit that criticism.
Tynes: Lest we forget the playoff game in Indy? Guy was decent but even in the Green Bay NFC championship he choked on the first one. Any coach in their right mind would have balked on keeping Tynes after that game. And then there’s this viewpoint.
Mitchell: We knew he was good, we tried to keep him. He wasn’t better than ‘Jared Allen let’s franchise him great,’ but put a guy like Mitchell in defense with Umenyiora and Strahan and of course he’ll get better.
Carney: He was born in 1964. He’s the kicking equivalent of bringing in Vinny Testeverde. There’s 20 years in the NFL there, not an ‘evaluation’ project so much as a speculation in longevity.
Price: Er, yeah he should be good on the Pats, they’re a good team and he’s got Randy Moss to help bring him along, and eventually a health Tom Brady. That said, I’m not too jazzed with the Pats of late, Matt Casselgreyskull is not a good quarterback, he barely beat us, and last week’s Miami game was an embarrassment. Finally, Belichik, according to Herm complimented Herm on what we’re doing, so of course they want Price, and the whole situation is a Catch-22 of stone throwing.
Hagans: Why do we hate Hagans so much? Yeah, the little experiment against Oakland looked pretty pathetic, but so has Thigpen, and Hagans is 1 for 1 with no turnovers and a decent play that got called back for a penalty. I’d just like something to backup this theory that he’s vastly inferior to Price.
NOW, FOR PARADE COUNTERPOINT
Mason Crosby: Drafted after Medlock, Medlock was a UCLA guy, Crosby was at UC Boulder. Carl made a BIG mistake there, BIG, no ifs and or buts, the Chiefs might have a far different attitude if we had the best up and coming kicker in the league for the Herm Edwards points and sound machine.
Napoleon Harris: That six year deal was stupid. He’s an aging malcontent who got paid and is content to miss tackles.
The Development of Brodie Croyle: The PARADE maintains a lingering hope that Croyle comes off of this injury, looks serviceable, puts together at least a couple wins and manages to stay health. This remains to be seen, but we’re reaching cut your losses capacity. With 20/20 hindsight, Herm and Co. made a major mistake not starting Brodie at the beginning of last season. We half-lied to ourselves about being competitive, and we were pulling a straws with the Huard debacle, the excuse was our o-line is so bad that we don’t want to shell-shock the kid. Bad move, this is the NFL, we shoulda shell shocked him, our o-line wasn’t getting better in one off season. I’d rather have four more games of tape of Croyle getting sacked/injured than those four wins now. Croyle has a miserable 11-12 more games to get through, we’ll see how he does, but the Chiefs must be swift and terrible the moment he goes down or this off season if he’s atrocious.
That one’s more 20/20 hindsight bc the jury is still technically out on his talent, but the development was a definite fustercluck.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 24, 2008 12:37 PM CDT reply actions
Oh and Casey Wiegmann...
Undersized and part of last years abomination, you could say he was unfairly lumped in with the Turley/Terry losers, or that judging by Cutler pass protection this year, he’s got a solid supporting cast. I was never sold on Wiegmann despite being a great center for the ever shifting Vermeil offenses.
I wish him well, but I’m okay with letting him go with Niswanger looking just as competent in my opinion.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 24, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Wiegmann
He wasn’t great here, I’ll agree. But he’s been pretty solid elsewhere so I can’t help but wonder if the difference is that now he has a coach who actually knows how to use him and the offensive line? Especially considering that our line looks just as bad now that we’ve replaced him with someone younger.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Rebuttal
Tynes: Lest we forget the playoff game in Indy? Guy was decent but even in the Green Bay NFC championship he choked on the first one. Any coach in their right mind would have balked on keeping Tynes after that game.
Great…and who did we replace him with?
Mitchell: We knew he was good, we tried to keep him. He wasn’t better than ‘Jared Allen let’s franchise him great,’ but put a guy like Mitchell in defense with Umenyiora and Strahan and of course he’ll get better.
Valid points all…and who did we replace him with?
Carney: He was born in 1964. He’s the kicking equivalent of bringing in Vinny Testeverde. There’s 20 years in the NFL there, not an ‘evaluation’ project so much as a speculation in longevity.
Good point about his age…and who’d we replace him with?
Finally, Belichik, according to Herm complimented Herm on what we’re doing, so of course they want Price, and the whole situation is a Catch-22 of stone throwing.
Did you ever consider that Belichick might have complimented Herm on the job he’s doing because he likes having a more or less guaranteed “W” on his schedule when we face them? After all, Belichick’s got a reputation as being a bit of an asshole :)
Mason Crosby: Drafted after Medlock, Medlock was a UCLA guy, Crosby was at UC Boulder. Carl made a BIG mistake there, BIG, no ifs and or buts, the Chiefs might have a far different attitude if we had the best up and coming kicker in the league for the Herm Edwards points and sound machine.
But the point is, it didn’t work out. Medlock was terrible. And the guy they brought in to replace Medlock (Rayner) was terrible. And the guy we brought in to replace him (Carney) was good, but we decided not to keep him and so the next guy we brought in (Novak…who didn’t outperform Barth) has also been terrible (while Carney’s having a pretty good year). The point being that of course we’d be optimistic if Herm and Carl’s kicker choices had worked out…but they always seem to go with one of the worst available option so I don’t think they deserve a pass for bad luck. They’ve simply made stupid decisions on the kicker situation.
Napoleon Harris: That six year deal was stupid. He’s an aging malcontent who got paid and is content to miss tackles.
Ugh…just, ugh. Nothing else to say there, we’re completely on the same page. Of course since we gave him a big contract, I’m sure that he’ll still be populating our roster until Peterson eventually leaves considering how Peterson hates eating bad contracts.
That one’s more 20/20 hindsight bc the jury is still technically out on his talent, but the development was a definite fustercluck.
I was on the record preseason as saying that Brodie should never have been given the starting QB job without any serious competition being brought in, so technically my opinion wasn’t hindsight :)
You’ve made some good points in this post, but honestly I think that all of them are either valid criticisms of the job Herm and Carl have done or directly lead to valid criticisms of the job Herm and Carl have done.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
Some critques on your critiques sir...
Glad you agree we agree sorta, gist-wise I think we’re all on the same track, I’ll just illuminate my ramble a little here.
Tynes and Carney should have been rendered moot by the drafting of Mason Crosby.
Bellicheat isn’t that purely evil, but it’s possible he says that to all the girls and Herm’s just dumb enough to repeat it.
I think I was saying we shouldn’t have had competition for QB spot just for the pure sake of moving on with the ‘brodie croyle experience experiment.’ But, that might play to your point. Herm does this ‘competition’ speech, which I think is complete crap. Maybe it is, maybe it’s a competition that always turns out in what the coach’s better judgment tells him to do (Trent thought so). Either way, it’s lame, you make decisions as the head coach, that’s the job, don’t tell us all your tough questions get settled in a winner-take-all game of 500 at the end of practice.
Damon, Brodie, you may be asking yourself why I brought you here to my house, and you may be asking yourself why I have a game of whack-a-mole in my basement…
Ultimately, my point was lets not focus on the adequate to marginally good players that may have gotten thrown out with the bath water, there are some clear failures (Medlock over Crosby) and big potential failures in the balance (Croyle? Barth? The O-line save Waters/Albert, Pretty much the entire LB situation).
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 24, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh
Bellicheat isn’t that purely evil, but it’s possible he says that to all the girls and Herm’s just dumb enough to repeat it.
I think that about says it right there. :)
Either way, it’s lame, you make decisions as the head coach, that’s the job, don’t tell us all your tough questions get settled in a winner-take-all game of 500 at the end of practice.
Agreed.
Ultimately, my point was lets not focus on the adequate to marginally good players that may have gotten thrown out with the bath water, there are some clear failures (Medlock over Crosby) and big potential failures in the balance (Croyle? Barth? The O-line save Waters/Albert, Pretty much the entire LB situation).
Valid points all.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
NFL News Update
In a strange turn of events, Roger Goodell announced that a 10-second sideline session of whack-a-mole will be used to make all quaterback fumble review decisions, replacing the long reviews “under the hood.” Sources close to Goodell mentioned that he had been surfing blogs to stay in touch with the fans before creating this new system.
Awesome
Will we suck at that too! Funny stuff!
Price
As far as my frustration with losing Price: I can’t say he’d be an elite WR. But in the preseason games (yeah – against scrubs) I like the way he got open, came back to the ball, caught the ball with his hands, and hung on to the balls that were thrown to him. Traits that I was looking forward to testing in regular season games.
PARADE, appreciate a throttle on the hindsight express. Truth is somewhere in the middle of all these decisions. LIke I’d appreciate having Wilkerson this seaon. (As well as Kawika.) Although I have hopes for DE Johnson and believe he deserves a roster spot. Turk and Hali could improve, but I have to believe Hali is approaching his ceiling of potential.
I've seen this before..
Maybe not the same situation exactly, but an iffy WR we let go that turns pro after a couple years.
Hmm.. Joe Horn?
Oh give me a break
Price hasn’t proven anything yet. The reason he ended up on the practice squad was because he got injured, just like he did with the last team he was on before we picked him up.
He looked promising in the preseason and I would have liked to see him in a real game, but it is what it is.
I did wonder why
he didn’t move back to the roster if he was doing good in practice. I guess the Chiefs thought they had seen enough. Too bad. I would have rated him our 3rd best WR after the preseason.
Price may never be any good, but he is young. And is not Sams.
Thank goodness we still have Sams though. He was more worthy than Price for a roster spot on our rebuilding team that has one decent NFL receiver. If we didn’t have Sams, our kicks would be returned by some rookie, and we’d end up seeing what Savage can do. No need for that, let’s keep an older guy who fair catches two punts at the 7-yard line, and let Price go to a team that knows how to spot talent and develop it.
Millen’s gone, so there is no longer any doubt which NFL team is the worst-run. Everyone except for General Manager For Life Carl Peterson knows who that team is.
by Offense of the 70s on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
Actually
I’d rank us third-worst right now. Oakland and St. Louis have us beat. Al Davis is always going to screw things up these days, of course, but there’s also something seriously wrong over in St. Louis…just a screwed up, dysfunctional organization.
But I think we’re solidly third-worst in the NFL right now. Our GM and head coach are terrible.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
And that 3rd string QBs not too great either eh?
And that nobody MLB we have? Or how bout that young superstar WR we have that gets a case of the drops every once in a while?
I know you’re on a mission to make sure everyone that visits this site knows how much you despise the coach and GM, but maybe we can spread the blame around a bit to other parties that deserve a share as well?
Really? Who?
Because, last I checked, the GM was the one responsible for bringing those players in and the coach was the one responsible for making sure the players either execute what they’re asked to do or, failing that, that they get replaced in the lineup by players who do a better job.
It’s never the coach’s fault with you, is it DJ?
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
I never said the coach didn't get some blame
But you forgot the most important part of your equation:
The players have to play.
If we had a coach you liked, you would be talking about plays players made. But since you hate with a burning passion the GM (which I think helps to color your hatred for the coach since he was hired by Peterson who you thought should have been fired) EVERYTHING falls in their lap.
Well Peterson/Herm don’t make Bowe drop balls. Peterson/Herm don’t make DJ miss tackles. Peterson/Herm don’t make Tony G get offensive pass interference penalties at inopportune times. Peterson/Herm don’t make Huard underthrow Jamaal Charles by 15 yards.
You can criticize the coachs, you can criticize the GM. But it doesn’t change the fact that sometimes the players just make mistakes and it costs you games because of it, just like in the above examples.
Players
Agreed, the players have to play…and when they don’t the coach either needs to ride their ass or he needs to make changes.
Damion McIntosh…can’t block worth a damn, terrible lineman, has been for two years. Who keeps putting him into the starting lineup and won’t give his backup any playing time?
Dwayne Bowe….multiple drops, terrible game. Did he get benched for that? No. Did Herm run extra hard practices with the receivers to eliminate mental mistakes like that? Not that we heard of. Has he improved? Not really. So who’s responsible for cracking down on him and pushing him to improve?
Tyler Thigpen…had a terrible game against Oakland. Really horrible. Didn’t outperform Huard (who was in for all of four throws). On most teams you get benched or cut for that kind of performance. But he gets a start, after which he proceeds to have another terrible start. Whose call was that?
But it doesn’t change the fact that sometimes the players just make mistakes and it costs you games because of it,
Right, players do make mistakes…and it’s the coach’s job to push them to eliminate those mistakes and to hold them accountable when they don’t or when they underperform. Where’s the accountability here? Good teams in the NFL don’t tolerate underperformance…if a player makes constant errors or can’t improve on his game killing flaws that player is taken off the field and somebody else is put on in his place. But not with Herm’s Chiefs. Here, if a QB stinks, he gets a promotion, or gets the uncontested starting job while the guy who outperformed him gets stuck on the sidelines and has the coach say in the press that he’s only good for coming off the bench. Here, if a WR drops a key TD pass at the end of a game when there’s no reason for him to do so (and largely stinks through the rest of the game) he keeps his starting job and gets a pass. Here when a tackle can’t do the basics of his job, he keeps starting because the coach doesn’t feel like disrupting continuity (even though all he’s continuing to do is stink, and get his QBs killed).
Do I blame the players for making errors? Sure. But at some point you’ve got to look at the big picture, and realize that these errors aren’t restricted to the rookies…they’re team-wide, even among the vets, and yet nobody on this team seems worried about losing their jobs or getting benched when they put in a crappy performance. There’s not a football team out there that succeeds when the players aren’t held accountable for what they produce on the field…and that lack of accountability falls squarely on the coach and GM.
Whether it’s Herm doing a crappy job of preparation, or the players just being unwilling to work on their games, or the players being unable to do what the coach asks doesn’t really matter…what matters is that they’re not producing what they’re capable of producing and the coach is the one responsible for that because he’s the one who runs the practices, comes up with the gameplan and fills in the lineup. This isn’t a completely talentless team. We’re not this much worse, talent-wise, than the Raiders or the Falcons. But with Herm at the helm the Chiefs have sure been playing like they’re that bad, and that falls entirely on the coaching staff.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
The Rams suck hard right now, but they won a Super Bowl in Carl Peterson’s 11th year as GM of the Chiefs. Their championship was a while ago, but it came what, seven years AFTER Peterson’s last playoff game win?
Winning a Super Bowl buys you a lot of slack. No playoff wins this millennium can’t compare to that.
I hate the Raiders so much that I can’t be at all impartial, but they did just beat us in our building and have won two in a row against us. Right now, they’re ahead of us in the standings. Al Davis is evil, ugly, obnoxious, stupid, arrogant and senile, but right now even he’s ahead of CPGMFL.
by Offense of the 70s on Sep 24, 2008 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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