A Half-Hearted Chiefs Recap
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Well, well. Another week. Another loss. I began this recap with the intention of brushing a broader stroke but I didn't have the heart for it. Here's a few things I took away from yesterday's game.
Turnovers will always kill you
Whenever a team loses a game and I take a look at the box score, my eyes almost always go to the turnover line. Sure enough, the Chiefs were -2 yesterday in the turnover category and lost by 24 points despite similar offensive stats to the Falcons. Tyler Thigpen's two interceptions within three minutes of each other in the second quarter, in hindsight, was the devastating blow dealt to the Chiefs. Those two picks gave Atlanta excellent field position (KC 18 and the KC 40) for what ultimately led to ten more points and a 24 to 0 lead a few minutes before half.
No reason to mention Thigpen's third and final pick which resulted in a touchdown by the Falcons' Chris Houston. Dwayne Bowe slipped and Thigpen had already released the ball.
The Kansas City Chiefs have a -1 turnover ratio on the season but the wrinkle in that is the Chiefs' opponents take advantage of those turnovers and score, literally after every turnover mind you, and the Chiefs do not. That's a basic football stat that you have to shake your head at if you're a Chiefs fan. That's a lot of power to have conceded to your opponent each game.
Hey, was that Larry Johnson on the field?
Lost amidst yesterday's destruction was that Larry Johnson had the best rushing performance by the Chiefs since Kolby Smith pounded the rock 31 times for 150 yards against Oakland last year (Side note: I completely forgot that Kolby Smith carried the ball that many times). LJ ran the ball 24 times for 121 yards and a touchdown.
One thing I've found myself doing when looking at Larry Johnson's stats over the last year is take away his longest carry and see what the YPC average is. With his long run of 48 yards included, LJ had a 5 yard per carry average. Take out that run and he averaged about 3.2 yards per carry. I like to use that second number as a more accurate judge of a runner's effectiveness over the period of an entire game.
Even with that second number right around 3 yards, the Chiefs were able to effectively run the ball for the first time in a long, long time. I actually saw a few holes opened up by the offensive line yesterday and that is said with no sarcasm whatsoever. They have been the first running lanes Larry Johnson has seen all season.
Remember, Tyler Thigpen is only temporary
The Tyler Thigpen led Chiefs' offense put together, for about 28 minutes to start the game, one of the worst strings of drives I've seen in a long time. And I watched all of last season!
The debate between starting Tyler Thigpen over Damon Huard is really only a relevant one if Brodie Croyle is out for a long period of time. Thigpen is not a future starter for the Chiefs and we need to treat him like that. Right now, the Chiefs starting quarterback is hurt and the team is in triage mode, trying to get as many pieces to work together as possible to maximize survival. The situation is obviously not ideal but I think that the Chiefs keeping Thigpen in is a good move, if only because wins aren't the ultimate goal this season. It doesn't matter if Huard or Thigpen is in there if neither one is going to be the full-time starting quarterback. It's a band-aid, barely covering the wound and we have to grit through the pain.
With those criticisms aside, Tyler Thigpen did lead touchdown scoring drives of 74 and 82 yards and that's no joke for this current Chiefs team. The best three drives of the season have been with Thigpen at the helm. Even going back further than this year, those two drives yesterday and his 9 play, 80-yard drive last week were some of the best drives the Chiefs have had since 2006.
For that, I will politely tip my hat to Tyler Thigpen and anxiously await the return of Brodie Croyle, or whoever our next quarterback is.
Defensive problems loom large
The Chiefs defense started the game off well, forcing three straight three and outs on the Falcons. But then the floodgates opened. Two quick touchdowns by the Falcons towards the end of first quarter shook the Chiefs defense and they never recovered.
A tough Matt Ryan and another week of ineffective pass rushing resulted in no sacks for the Chiefs. The run defense let the team down again, giving up 186 yards on the ground. This weekly recap is getting quite repetitious by the way. We are getting torn up on the ground.
I don't buy the argument that the defense is tired because they're on the field so much. First, the time of possession for all three games this season has not been out of whack for the Chiefs or their opponents. Plus, the Chiefs scattered in enough three, four and five minutes drives between their three and outs to give the defense time to rest. The defense did get a lot of time on the field during the first quarter yesterday but if your team can't make it through the first quarter endurance wise, geez I don't know what to tell you.
The Falcons aren't that bad
"We lost to the Falcons!"
I heard that quite a bit yesterday and even said it myself a few times. But after sleeping on it, the Falcons are actually a pretty solid team. They have what appears to be a good quarterback in Matt Ryan and their running game is a complete 180-degree turn around from last year. Their pass rush is pretty solid and their offensive line is leaps and bounds ahead of ours. Let's give the Falcons some credit for yesterday's win.
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I'll give them credit for the running game
Michael Turner is looking like a great pickup and has done some damage (albeit against us and the Lions).
But Matt Ryan isn’t blowing anyone away. He is what he is – a rookie QB. It’s not to say he won’t get better but we can’t say he’s performing really well right now.
by primetime 07 on
Sep 22, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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He's Had Two So-So Games And One Terrible One
And the so-so games came against two bad defenses, ours and Detroit’s (who are probably worse than ours). He’s not performing all that well. For a rookie I suppose he’s okay only because there shouldn’t be any expectation for rookie QBs. But in comparison to the rest of the league currently he’s not a good QB (which isn’t to say he won’t be better down the road because there’s a good chance he improves).
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 10:18 AM CDT
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So So Games
Also helped when Michael Turner combined for over 300 yards in those two games.
by primetime 07 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:18 AM CDT
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Ryan wasn’t expected to carry the team at all. I honestly don’t know if the kid’s going to be a franchise QB, an average QB or a scrub, but as far as development goes the Falcons aren’t putting him in a bad spot. He doesn’t have to be the man, or even be good…he just has to not be the worst QB in the NFL and if he really starts struggling they’ve got other guys who can step in for a little while to take pressure off of him.
Wish Mike Smith was our head coach.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 11:31 AM CDT
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Final Pick
Was to Houston, not Grimes.
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by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 9:44 AM CDT
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That photo just about says it all
Chiefs defenders on the ground as a running back for the other team goes bye. I wonder if with Herm’s penchant for short practices if that leads to an inability to tackle. Does anyone remember if his NY team had problems with tackling or is that just our lousy players?
by tevans96 on
Sep 22, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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Why Can't It Be Both?
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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It could be
I was just wondering if his coaching style could possibly contribute to it. I think we have a major problem at MLB and that no amount of coaching is going to help there, but if teams are lead by the same HC and both have the same problem wouldn’t that point more to the coach than the players.
I honestly don’t know if that was a problem in NY that is why I asked, hoping someone will show that it was NOT a problem – then we could look at replacing the players that are failing.
by tevans96 on
Sep 22, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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I Think That It's Both
In the amount of yardage they gave up from 2001-2005 (Herm’s tenure in New York) the Jets defense was ranked 19th, 24th, 21st, 7th, 12th, and 20th in the NFL those years. I don’t have the time to dig up all the tackle numbers and anecodotal stories right now, but having four of six teams ranked in the bottom half of the league defensively indicates to me that there were defensive problems in New York too.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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And here I thought D was his strong point
That is really bad. Why do so many HC have problems with the side of the ball that they are supposed to be experts at? Maybe some GM should run a team with no Head coach, just hire the best OC and DC they can and let them be responsible for their side of the team and have no influence on the other side. Then we wouldn’t have all these shadow games where the HC is blaming a cordinator for all the problems.
by tevans96 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:00 AM CDT
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Micromanagement
I think that’s a lot of the problem. A head coach hires a coordinator, then instead of delegating at least a portion of playcalling responsibility to him he starts telling the guy how to do his job. Happens in all sorts of organizations, not just the NFL. Way that you deal with it in the NFL is to have a GM who keeps an eye on what the head coach is doing to spot trends like that when they become an issue and either nudge the coach towards granting the coordinators more autonomy, get new coordinators, or get a new head coach. But right now it doesn’t appear that Carl Peterson is in a position to do any of that…whether he’s actually got the power to or not.
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by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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After watching the clips of the game
again…Turner actually gave Pat Thomas a ride on that “photo” play. What an embarassment!
by Ilamuku on
Sep 22, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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Defensive problems are the most damning
indictment of the Edwards years. With so much drafting effort directed in that area, and the “geniuses” of Bill Kuharich and Chuck Cook, you’d think that people like Derrick Johnson and Jarrod Page would be doing better. Or Tamba Hali…or Bernard Pollard…
by sm7600 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:10 AM CDT
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Pollard And Page Are Doing Pretty Well
If there’s one positive to find with the Herm Edwards era, it seems to be that he’s got an eye for talent in defensive backs. Beyond that it’s very questionable how well he can judge talent or develop talent outside of DBs.
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by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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The secondary of the team will make mistakes they are young after all. And what safty when the other team is pounding the rock does not bite on the play action pass, that is why teams have used it for 50 years.
I am starting to feel that the D-line has some promise I just don’t know about Hali. He is getting killed by backup and rookie Left tackles so far this season. And when I watch him he is getting pushed around really bad most of the game. He is not a bust yet but he is not living up to the sales pitch the chiefs gave us about him.
by tevans96 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:28 AM CDT
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except that page didn't bite on play action
that pass was a straight pass. No fake that I saw
by sm7600 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:31 AM CDT
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The 70 Yarder I'm Assuming?
Yeah, Page just flat-out blew his coverage going for the inside receiver and letting Roddy White get behind him.
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by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 11:33 AM CDT
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I must be thinking of another play then
Now that you say that I do remember them breaking down the play and him coming up to cover the other receiver. The hard part about the secondary is without knowing the defensive play called you don’t know when they are out of position and when they are actually doing what the play is designed for them to do.
by tevans96 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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In Page's Defense
Roddy White’s a good receiver and for most of the game Page played pretty well, so I think you can write it off as a young player mistake.
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by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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he's been starting for three years now
that excuse doesn’t cut it anymore, in my humble opinion. The one thing a safety has to do on a pass play in zone coverage is stay deep and not come up.
by sm7600 on
Sep 22, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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He Doesn't Make Too Many Of Them
I think Page has shown consistent improvement since he’s been here, so I’m willing to cut him a break. But I agree he’s still got a lot to improve on.
Playing in the secondary can be tough, though, when your defensive front seven can’t put any pressure on the QB.
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by UCrawford on
Sep 22, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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What about
Flipping Hali and Turk? Hali has shown an ability to handle the LDE position just fine over the past two years, and Turk has shown that he has some promise and maybe its time he gets a shot at RDE.
by Sudden on
Sep 22, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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The Past Two Weeks
The Falcons may have improved since last year, but let’s keep in mind the Chiefs have lost two consecutive games against 4-12 teams from last season. I know, it’s the NFL and last year’s team doesn’t have any bearing on the current team (and all that noise). But do we really think that both of these teams have improved enough to absolutely steamroll the Chiefs? Doubtful. They took steps forward and we took steps back.
by Chiefs4Life on
Sep 22, 2008 5:01 PM CDT
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