They gave up 2000 yard rushing last season, they dumped their best cornerback (flawed though he was, he was still better than anyone on their roster now) and most of the new guys they brought in to replace departing players on D were rookies and young guys, same as we did, and they still held our offense to 2 TDs. The Falcons played a rookie QB who was one of the worst passers in the NFL at this point and our defense made him look like a star. This team was at the same point we were last year and they destroyed us.

At some point you have to quit making excuses and just admit that while we might have some talented young players on the roster our coaching staff is simply not getting acceptable performances out of most of them. The Chiefs got blown out by the teams that should have been the easiest on their schedule. They looked utterly unprepared and the head coach seems to be in denial that there are serious problems with his gameplan.

As absolutely disgustingly horrible as we were in the first half, we still had opportunities to at least be competitive in this game. If Novak had made the field goal and if they had been succesful in scoring a touchdown instead of getting stopped on the 6 inch line, the score is 31 – 23 and a one score game.

But this is what happens when you have a half built team and you’re running your 3rd string QB to see what he’s got. You don’t make plays that you should make and the young guy thats really not talented enough to start in the NFL makes mistakes. What else do we expect?

I agree with Matt that we get nothing out of starting Huard. At least by letting Thigpen play we are confirming that he shouldn’t be a part of the future, just like we need to see Croyle play to confirm that we need a different starting QB, or if he gets things turned around, that he can be.

to say “if you want, we’ll trade you to Pittsburgh. Is that what you want?” Out of our division, playoff contender.

We shouldn’t punish him for being true to this franchise.

Also, never mention Huard and Tony in the same sentence unless it’s describing Huard underthrowing him on a 10 yard pass.

Play me or I quit (and leave how much $ on the table – that’s just stupid) – Play me or release me – play me or trade me ?? Those are club options not player options.

So what your saying Huard should expect to sit and watch Ingle Martin come in if Thigpen gets hurt ?? Or do we bring in another Q.B. so Damon can sit ?? If he’s never suposed to play – release him (which we clearly aren’t going to do). So I’m not sure what you’re getting at here !!

If youre reading anything I’m saying… then you’d understand that I dont think that Thigpen is good enough… I want to win games while Brodie is out (:::here com your caps::: WITH HUARD!!). Thigpen sucks. I’d rather evaluate Brodie than Thigpen.

Brodie comes back… I’d rather have that better chance at winning with Huard then an evaluation thing with Thigpen.

they start Huard. I really do. Because we’ll be right back to last year when we were all begging them to put Brodie in (I know, UC, not you, I know), because Huard was terrible. God, it’s days like this that make me see how DJ sees things, we’re so overreactive some days just because we want one more win, so we can be 3-13 versus 2-14? really?

Huard doesn’t give a chance for the offense to develop.

And that opinion is based on what? The fact that he led to our scoring drive against the Patriots? The fact that he’s statistically outperformed both Croyle and Thigpen as a passer? No wait, those facts actually disprove your argument..

Oh wait, I forgot…it’s because Huard’s old and an old QB with some ability is therefore worse than a young QB with no ability so therefore starting a guy who can’t be counted on to execute half of his plays is soooo much better than putting in a guy who can actually complete passes.

Seriously, I have no clue where you get your ideas on football.

Bowe had the opportunity to make plays.

Sure…when the Falcons D let up after they had a huge lead. When they pressed us, though, Bowe got shut down just like everyone else because Thigpen couldn’t get him the ball.

Do you notice that Bowe didn’t take off until Croyle came in last year?

No, I didn’t notice that…mainly because you’re wrong. Bowe’s best game of the season came against San Diego (164 yards and 1 TD) while Huard was the starter. And he had more yardage in the first seven games of the season than he did in the last nine (when Croyle got most of his starts). Maybe you should look up the actual numbers first before you try engaging me in an argument about statistics instead of just pulling the numbers out of your ass…because you should know by now that I look them up :)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/gamelog?playerId=10467&sYear=2007

I don’t really care about wins, we’ve been over that

Well then this season should make you ecstatic, because there’s a pretty good chance we won’t have any this year. Of course I don’t really consider that a good thing since a team that goes winless and gets blown out by other bottom feeders is a team that lacks either talent or coaching, or both…and because losing is contagious.

If we had let Thigpen throw on that fourth down, I’d feel a lot better.If he’d thrown an INT, I would be like "okay, he can’t do it, let’s ditch him and bring in Huard."

Ah, so failing on fourth down pass attempts is the only event that would cause you to give up on Thigpen? Very lucky for Thigpen, considering how infrequently those come along. I figured it might have been when he threw that pick-6 to Houston when Thigpen targeted Dwayne Bowe after Bowe fell down (and wasn’t open before he fell). Or when he completed 20% of his passes when the Atlanta defense was actually playing their best. Or when he flung the ball way off target on deep throws. Those are usually the tipoffs to me that a QB lacks the ability to be good enough to start. Personally, I was yelling for Huard after the 1st quarter…when there was at least a slim chance we could be competitive. But of course, I was at home watching on TV so I suppose I can’t really fault Herm for not listening to my advice…although he should have been smart enough to figure that out on his own, considering he does this job for a living and all.