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Argh. Real life is interrupting blogging today and I figured this post by NJChiefsFan was bound to be made before next Sunday anyway. Enjoy. -Chris

AFC West

1. San Diego — Like New England, this is a team that might not be fully cranked up for the regular season.
2. Kansas City — Have a hunch the Chiefs will be better than expected.
3. Oakland — Raiders will be in a lot of close games, but how many can they finish off?
4. Denver — Defense will have its problems, and the O-line is a concern, too.

 

PFW editors forecast the 2008 NFL season

Pro Football Weekly has posted their season predictions. All but two of the editors have the Chiefs last in the AFC West, yet most praise the young talent.

They do however have the Chiefs covering the spread in week one, here : Week One consensus selections

I like the above prediction. I am an eternal optimist (can you be a homer if you've never lived in KC?) and it can't be helped. I think the Raiders will impolde (again) and the Broncos will just putter along and give away games.

The whole thing, however, will depend on how well our rookies play on D and if Croyle has time to pass. If those two things go well for the team, I feel a lot of experts will be proved wrong. If they don't... ouch.

Here's hoping!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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I agree

I think we will end up 2nd in the west, Maybe we can squeeze into the playoffs but I doubt it. You never know, If we beat N.E in week one, Ill call the playoffs.

by ComeSackMyQB on Sep 2, 2008 11:25 AM CDT   0 recs

We will finish 3rd AT BEST

I love the optmsm, but it’s not happning this year.

My prediction: San Diego 12-4
                          Denver 9-7
                          Oakland 6-10
                          Kansas City 4-12

by JasonM on Sep 2, 2008 11:58 AM CDT   0 recs

8-8? 9-7?

09/07/08 at New England Patriots
09/14/08 Oakland Raiders – WIN
09/21/08 at Atlanta Falcons – WIN
09/28/08 Denver Broncos – WIN
10/05/08 at Carolina Panthers
10/17/08 BYE
10/19/08 Tennessee Titans – WIN
10/26/08 at New York Jets
11/02/08 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
11/09/08 at San Diego Chargers
11/16/08 New Orleans Saints
11/23/08 Buffalo Bills – WIN
11/30/08 at Oakland Raiders
12/07/08 at Denver Broncos – WIN
12/14/08 San Diego Chargers – WIN?
12/21/08 Miami Dolphins – WIN
12/28/08 at Cincinnati Bengals – WIN

Assumes we get better as the year progresses. Beat either Carolina or Tenn. Figure we take two from either Oakland or Denver. San Diego might be resting starters by the Dec game. Plus it’s December at Arrowhead.

Miss the playoffs.

by NJChiefsFan on Sep 2, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

With all the young players

I think our division is the most unpredictble.

The Chargers should win the division but they have theNorv factor. That being said, the have enough talent to overcome barring anymore major injuries. Merriman will be done for the season in the the first few games. Rivers not that he was great but he hasn’t looked good in the preseason.

Denver is a candidate to finish second, although they really aren’t musch better than the Chiefs or Raiders. There defense will stuggle this year. The offense isn’t what it used to be with an aging line.

The Raiders are the Raiders need I say more.

That leaves us with our beloved Chiefs. Along with every team in our division there are question marks. We are young but have a lot of potential. I blelieve we will win a few we weren’t suppose to and lose a few that we should have won. I think we will finish third but, the way our division is we sould very well finish second.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Chiefs, Raiders, and Broncos will all be about the same.

The difference to me is that the Chiefs have more young energy, and I think that could thrust us into 2nd place in the division… even if we only end up 7-9.

by Vince D on Sep 2, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Croyle

That’s who this season is going to hinge on. If he turns out to be a capable QB, then I could see the team going 7-9. But if he doesn’t make major strides this year, the Chiefs are going to have a very long season on offense.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 4:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How much better will he get?

Remember, this is a player that went 0-6 down the stretch last year.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 5:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Croyle

He was also sacked the most in the league.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 5:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My Grudging Defense Of Croyle

First, I disagree with the idea that a QB should bear the sole responsibility for a team’s losses, particularly a team as dysfunctional as the 2007 Chiefs. Was Croyle an asset? No, not really…in fact he was one of the worst QBs in the NFL. But he also had no line, the running game was abysmal, Dwayne Bowe hit the rookie wall at the end of the season, and I thought the defense pretty obviously gave up in the last few games of the season. Just about the entire team short of Tony Gonzalez had a hand in that 0-6 record so it’s not accurate to say that Croyle went 0-6.

Now, I’ll admit I’m not optimistic about Croyle’s chances this year…fact is I think he’s probably not going to be much better than he was last year, but then I could also be wrong. If he can get that completion percentage up, move the offense down the field more consistently, operate effectively in the red zone, do a better job of hitting his downfield targets and maybe show that he can occasionally do a little more on busted plays besides flinging the ball out of bounds (without making the situation worse by turning the ball over) then he could be an asset to the team and may turn into a good starting QB. These are reasonable expectations for a third year QB…maybe Croyle can achieve them and maybe he can’t. But if he can I think he’ll definitely be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He has been able to

move the offense down the field, it is the inability to get seven out of a drive that concerns me.

by Eric Allen on Sep 2, 2008 7:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I Haven't Really Seen The Consistent Ability To Move The Offense Last Year Or This Preseason

Last year he did a good job against Indianapolis but the rest of the season he was pretty terrible. This preseason he did a good job against Chicago, but he was terrible against Arizona and Miami and with St. Louis he was playing their second string defense (which, as we’ve seen, is a recipe to make even terrible QBs look competent). So except for a couple of flashes in his career, I don’t think Croyle has shown that he can move the offense.

Anyway, I don’t really want to get back into a bashing of Croyle again. I’ve done enough of that this offseason/preseason and it’s pointless anyway because I still think the guy needs to have the chance to prove that he belongs or not. Figure I’ll temper my criticisms of him for at least a month unless he’s just the most gawdawful player ever to suit up for the Chiefs over the next couple of games. I just took issue with people pinning too much of the blame for last season’s slide on Croyle because it certainly wasn’t all on him (even if he did play a decent-sized part).

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 7:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You have seen the tdto int ratio of other high profile qb's

in their first couple of seasons,Brodie just needs time with a decent line, so he at least has time to think. I honestly do not know what we have in Brodie.

by Eric Allen on Sep 2, 2008 7:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's Not Just The TD/INT Ratio

He was also the worst starting QB in the NFL last year at getting the ball downfield (YPA and YPC were dead last among qualified starting QBs), and although some of that can be attributed to poor pass protection I think a lot of that can be attributed to a lack of touch and accuracy on Croyle’s part. He’s got a strong arm, but I’m not sure that he’s going to be able to finesse the ball enough to ever be a good downfield passer. My semi-accurate analogy would be that he’s kind of like a baseball pitcher who can throw in the high-90s but every pitch he throws is flat and straight…eventually pitchers who can’t fool batters start getting hammered just like QBs who can’t figure out the finer points of passing eventually become clipboard holders.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish we

had a accomplished vet to tutor him. Dick Curl may not be the best mentor a young QB could have. The wild card in all this is what position Chan puts him in. If he can mix it up well, then maybe Brodie develops better.

by Eric Allen on Sep 2, 2008 8:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In order

to get the ball “down field” you need time. He may never be what the team expects him to be but, this season will tell us all we need to to know. A healthy LJ, a line that shouldn’t be as bad as last year, and a new coordinator. All of that should leave no excuse at the end of the year.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm Not Disagreeing With Any Of That

Like I said, there were mitigating circumstances last year, so it probably wasn’t the most objective assessment (not to mention that a lot of young QBs simply aren’t ready in their 2nd year) so I’m willing to let the criticisms slide for a bit until we see what he can do.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's Insanely Optimistic

Oakland Raiders at home we might pull out, and maybe Atlanta, but we’re not going to beat the Chargers (even without Merriman), the Dolphins are a much improved team already (as witnessed by the absolute trouncing they gave us in the preseason), we might beat the Bengals, but the Titans have a solid defense and a rushing game that’s going to cause us problems and the Bills are a team that narrowly missed the playoffs last season and should be in competition for it again even without Jason Peters. As for the Broncos, you think we’re going to take that offense on the road and beat them at Mile High and sweep them at home? Not a chance.

Sorry, but even if Croyle turns out to be capable of managing the game like Herm wants, this team is going to struggle to put points on the board each week against even mediocre defenses because our line is still a mess (especially since Albert has yet to play a game at left tackle in the pros, preseason or otherwise). We’ve got Brian Waters (who may or may not be better than last year) and four serious question marks, and that’s it.

5-11 with wins over Oakland, Atlanta, Denver, Carolina and Cincinnati.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sweep either Oakland or Denver

It is optimistic, but Titans are after a bye and at home. We beat the Chargers last year with a worse team (I’m also thinking that we will be better week 15 than week 1).

As to our o-line, I think they along with a real fullback will be able to run block enough for LJ and friends to be productive and set up the play action pass. Not the greatest show on turf, but maybe some marty-ball (aka winning-ball).

If our defensive rookies play well, we should be in the top 10 defensively and see turnovers.

Lots of ifs, but none are unreasonable (all of them at once may be).

by NJChiefsFan on Sep 2, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Preseason

If you base what you think will happen in the regular season on the preseason you may be disappointed or surprised. Ask the Colts about preseason. They don’t win in the preseason and still make the playoffs year in and year out. There only ten teams in the preseason with winning records. Eight teams with losing records and the rest had .500 records. I am not saying the Chiefs are going to be great but preseason doesn’t matter. The Dolphins are still going to be bad. They kicked our but in preseason but what does that mean anything. The Browns finished 0-4 and they are supposed to be a legit contender.

Tennessee is average, Miami has a quarterback that if he is lucky will make it to week six healthy. The Bengals defense is terrible and Ocho will not play the whole season. The Bucs always have a good defense but will they put points on the board? Flip a coin in that one. We have the seventh easiest schedule in the league. We won’t be terrible but not playoffs.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 2:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

fear is a tremendous motivator

Parcells instills it. His teams react to it. Miami won’t be nearly the creampuff they were last year.

by sm7600 on Sep 2, 2008 3:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They are grown ups

It is proven that isn’t as effective as it was with his days in NY and NE. Yeah they did decent in the preseason but that doesn’t change the fact that there quarterback hasn’t made a whole season in three years. Ricky is unpredictable. They have good defense but so do a lot of teams. They will win five games this year. They won’t be a creampuff but they aren’t good. Yeah they beat us in the preseason badly……..so what. I don’t think it is a coincidence that we lost to them as badly as we did. We historically suck in the state of Forida for whatever reason. We are playing them in the regular season and played everything basic.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, that rebuild he did in Dallas

was just an abject failure.

by sm7600 on Sep 2, 2008 6:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah he did it all in Dallas.

Didn’t say that. His style of using “fear” doesn’t work. This isn’t the 80’s. That may have worked then but the league is different now. He makes teams competitive sure but, in a league of stars that styles wears out.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Fear Factor Is Overrated

Actually, I think Parcells has been kind of overrated for the last decade as his record hasn’t been great ever since he stopped working with Bill Belichick. But I do think he’ll build a better program in Miami than was there before, and that he’ll probably be better as a GM than he would be as a coach (I got the impression the last couple of years in Dallas that he was absolutely burned out on coaching). And I think that Miami, while probably not going to the playoffs this year or even next, will be a much more dangerous team to play than they were last year.

The bonus of bringing Parcells isn’t so much fear as it is accountability. Before this season it didn’t seem like players in Miami were really held accountable if they weren’t totally focused on their job, or if they underachieved, or if they didn’t fit what the staff was trying to do. By getting rid of Taylor and Thomas (even if you don’t think those were the best moves) Parcells has sent the message that there are no sacred cows in Miami and if he feels you’re not cutting it there he’ll get rid of you. I think that’s an important value to instill and that Parcells does a good job of instilling it.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Very true

Parcells gets to build the team he wants and by letting go of long time fan favorites…… he is letting players know they aren’t safe and have to compete for jobs.

That said, I don’t see the fish being good this year. I am still clinging to my argument about there offense. Pennington has looked great and I think he is very talented if he has a running game. He just can’t stay healthy. That will cause them problems all year.

by cmpotter on Sep 2, 2008 8:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I Don't Think They'll Be Good

Just better than last year and not a pushover by any stretch.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 9:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with most

I think Carolina will take their division. Peppers is in a contract year and Jonathan Stewart looks like he has the size to contribute immediately.

That is if Delhomme’s elbow appears to have rehabilitated to a functional capacity.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 5:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm with you

I believe that this is something that could happen, I have faith in our team and truely believe that we will be better than most people think.

by ComeSackMyQB on Sep 2, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Titans are good

They will shut us down.

Chargers should beat us.

I imagine we’ll split with Denver and Oakland.

The Dolphins or Bengals aren’t gimmes.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 2:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree - Even though they went 1-15

I am more worried about the Fish than the Bungles.

by PVChiefsfan on Sep 2, 2008 3:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes...

I agree with that…

esp. after watching preseason game #3…

http://www.kcchiefsfootball.com/

http://www.kcchiefsfootball.com/
Go Chiefs!

by bigknoxy on Sep 2, 2008 3:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dolphins Will Be More Of A Challenge Than Cincinnati

I think Cincinnati will have a decent offense but overall that team’s in serious meltdown and I think they’ll be picking with us in the top 10 or of the draft so I think we can take them. Miami, on the other hand, I think is a team that’s going to ascend pretty quickly. I doubt they’ll make the playoffs this year but I doubt they’ll be anything like a 1-15 team this season.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cincinnati

I don’t think they’re in serious meltdown. Certainly they’re not headed up (or down, really) but they still have an impressive passing attack that will keep them in most games.

Their running game was blah last year but the previous three saw Rudi Johnson put up Pro Bowl caliber numbers. With a competent back, I think they can do the same in 2008.

I know their defense isn’t their strength, and honestly I don’t know much about them (besides using their #1 on a CB 2 out of the last 3 years) so I’ll just leave it at that.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They've Dumped

Willie Anderson, Deltha O’Neal, Rudi Johnson, Ahmad Brooks, and Odell Thurman. Their defense was a mess last year and their best defender is looking to be a rookie linebacker who held out of much of training camp. Their receiving corps is a mess as Chris Henry’s still got a suspension, Chad Johnson’s got a bum shoulder, Houshmanzadeh is banged up, and their other receiving options are pretty much all rookies. Chris Perry (Mr. Injury-Prone) is looking to be their primary back. About the only positive I see is that they got a decent pass-catching tight end with Ben Utecht. Beyond that, that’s a team that’s deprived all over their roster and I see them getting into a lot of shootouts this year (assuming their receivers can keep it together).

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 7:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not as bad as people think...

We should finish around 6-10 to 7-9 maybe even 8-8. Our defense is alot better than people give it credit for, and LJ will run over people with Tony G. catching those clutch 3rd receptions. On shear determination alone we should be better than last year.

I think that poor personnel decisions that were made early in the season could not be corrected in the half way through the season when everything started falling apart. Causing a panic which resulted in that 9 straight loss anomaly. The fact that Solari is no longer calling the plays already gives us a 2 win cushion from last year.

by aPacificChief on Sep 2, 2008 4:00 PM CDT   0 recs

Well let me add this to the conversation

If we are not going to get in the playoffs, would you rather us finish in the middle of the pack or in/near the last five for the draft pick?

by Lanier63 on Sep 2, 2008 4:28 PM CDT   0 recs

Tough question

Back in the top five would give us much more talent for out 2009/2010 when I think most of us agree we will be legitimate contenders.

On the other hand, how much impact does putting together a few more wins in ‘08 have in ’09? I’m not quite sure on that one. Players react differently to success.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 5:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate to admit it...

Another top 5 pick would do wonders in rebuilding (i.e. Neil Smith in ‘88 & Derrick Thomas in ’89) There was the foundation of the team for the early 90’s. We could use that high pick on probably a gifted Middle Linebaker. But for the psychology of the team the damage might be irreparable. You figure if Brodie does not pan out we will be selecting in the top 5 next year anyway. There’s an article by Bob Gretz about the amount of time to truly groom a young QB, and see if he’s worth anything in the NFL. I think he broke it down to a minimum of 36 starts. A must read for everyone.

We just need to continue having solid drafts under Herm and Bill Kuharich. I think thats the key over having a high selection. If you look at our drafts after ’88 & ’89 we had some drafts that only produced one quality player for us ( ’92 Dale Carter, ’93 Will Shields, ’97 Tony G., ’99 John Tait) If our drafts can produce a starter or two and solid reserves, instead of one player who excels and the rest of the draft class eventually getting cut, we will be alot better.

by aPacificChief on Sep 2, 2008 9:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes it takes 36 starts

except when it doesn’t (Brady, Roethlisberger)

by sm7600 on Sep 3, 2008 9:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not all stars are the same

Mr. Iron man himself, Brett Farve took awhile to develop. Brady and Big Ben are just FREAKS! wish we had more of them. Don’t forget Joe “Cool” Montana, he stepped in for DeBerg and didn’t look back.

by aPacificChief on Sep 3, 2008 2:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think there is

a real possibility we could sweep both Denver and Oakland this year. I can’t wait to see the first game against Denver when Shanahan calls for the naked boot and Cutler is all of a sudden running for his life with Glenn Dorsey and/or Turk McBride in hot pursuit. Cutler rattles easily and the first time he gets drilled will make a big difference. I sure hope the tv cameras get a good close up of Shanahan immediately after the big hit!!!

by G.L. on Sep 2, 2008 5:00 PM CDT   0 recs

I would rather

See DJ looking like Derrick Thomas, flat level him! what year was it DT had the seven sacks on Dave Krieg?

by Eric Allen on Sep 2, 2008 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

November 11

I think 1991.

Also, my birthday.

by primetime 07 on Sep 3, 2008 9:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cutler will be awesome this year

I hate saying that but him and Marshall are going to team up and be an absolute force (barring injury) for the next 7-8 years.

I mean Cutler is almost already in the elite status throwing for nearly 3,500 yards and 20 TDs last year alone.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

09/07/08 at New England Patriots
09/14/08 Oakland Raiders – WIN
09/21/08 at Atlanta Falcons – WIN
09/28/08 Denver Broncos – WIN
10/05/08 at Carolina Panthers
10/17/08 BYE
10/19/08 Tennessee Titans – win
10/26/08 at New York Jets- win
11/02/08 Tampa Bay Buccaneers-
11/09/08 at San Diego Chargers
11/16/08 New Orleans Saints
11/23/08 Buffalo Bills – loss
11/30/08 at Oakland Raiders
12/07/08 at Denver Broncos – loss
12/14/08 San Diego Chargers – WIN?…..no
12/21/08 Miami Dolphins – WIN
12/28/08 at Cincinnati Bengals – loss

by IamtheGreatest on Sep 2, 2008 5:05 PM CDT   0 recs

My predictions:

@NE – Loss
OAK – Win
@ATL – Loss
DEN – Win
@CAR – Loss
TEN – Loss
@NYJ – Loss
TB – Win
@SD – Loss
NO – Loss
BUF – Loss
@OAK – Loss
@DEN – Loss
SD – Win
MIA – Win
@CIN – Loss

I hope I’m wrong, but 5-11 looks about right to me.

by stlfan on Sep 2, 2008 5:05 PM CDT   0 recs

6-10 with a possibility of going 5-11 or 7-9

I think that 5-11 at worst and 7-9 at best but i really am leaning with 5-11i don’t think we will ebat Tennesee even though i said we would that was a mistake, but anything can happen

by IamtheGreatest on Sep 2, 2008 5:07 PM CDT   0 recs

I think we are

Going to surprise some teams, even ourselves. If we could somehow squeak out a win in NE, that builds confidence, then who knows the sky is the limit!

by Eric Allen on Sep 2, 2008 5:11 PM CDT   0 recs

NJChiefsFan

I am a Chiefs fan and also live in NJ….Burlington…..how bout you, man?
I don’t see 8 wins, but agree that we will get better as the year goes on…maybe 5-6 wins…tops….not optimistic….but think we will have higher expectations going into 2009 though.

raygu

by raygu on Sep 2, 2008 6:17 PM CDT   0 recs

Somerville here.

We have to beat the Jets so I can go into the local bar and talk crap. I had to buy a lot of shots during the last game last season.

by NJChiefsFan on Sep 2, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rec this up

So we can easily see who actually called a win at New England to open the season…

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 6:28 PM CDT   0 recs

I love the loyalty and optimism and would love to see KC outperform its expectations, but as hard as it is to say this I think we’re going to be last years Dolphins this year. I’ve never been a position in my entire 20+ years as a sports fan where my favorite team is poised to be the worst in the league. The Chiefs could very well be that and while there is a tremendous amount of potentail on our roster there are very few proven players in my opinion. I certainly understand and support the rebuilding process we’re going through, but outside of the draft I am not seeing any developments which indicate Herm or Carl are dedicated to winning. If so, its not until 3 or 4 years down the road which personally to me doesn’t make too much sense. I tend to look at football like I look at life in that all we’re guaranteed is today and no tomorrows. So each game, each season is all we have. That means making your best effort to put together the best players you can every season in your best attempt to win football games. I realize my real issue is possibly with Herm’s approach towards the game and while I do like him a lot and really enjoying listening to him as a teacher, I think his approach is too conservative to ever lead a team to a Super Bowl.

I must say I’ve been quite proud of the players we’ve drafted the last 3 years who show great play-making capabilities. But we cannot rely on the draft alone to build a contending team

by KansasCityShuffle on Sep 2, 2008 6:47 PM CDT   0 recs

INDY

built a championship team through the draft – they might have used a FA here or there to fill a hole, but all their stars, Manning, James, Wayne, Harrison, Freeney, Sanders, were all homegrown guys, and (I think) all first round picks…that is a LOT of years of rebuilding – we’re just starting…Johnson, Hali, Bowe, Dorsey, Albert…

by PVChiefsfan on Sep 2, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That’s a great perspective, good post! I think you can add another Johnson in front of the first as I speculate the real rebuilding started w/ DJ’s class. I love tracking the development of draftees and hope this years class are all keepers unlike his

Thanks for the point of view

by KansasCityShuffle on Sep 4, 2008 5:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, but

They had one of the best quarterback prospects ever. I think Peyton has a lot to do with their success.

by primetime 07 on Sep 4, 2008 10:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree

I was just showing how they had a gaggle of homegrown 1st round picks who turned into pro-bowlers.

by PVChiefsfan on Sep 5, 2008 7:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think they only had

like five players on their Super Bowl team who weren’t drafted by their team. That’s outrageous.

by primetime 07 on Sep 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Man cheer up were almost to the other side...

There were two football coaches who had coached the same schools football program. The previous years coach and his replacement. The old coach asked the new coach how his prospects were this year? The new coach said not good, because the teams star football player all graduated. The old coach said to the newer coach, “if you don’t do well its your fault, because your job is to make the next generation of stars.”

I see Herm trying to do that in Kansas City. It just takes time.

by aPacificChief on Sep 2, 2008 9:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the Chiefs will finish 2nd in the AFC West

Not that I think we will be particularly good. I think we could finish 6-10 and finish 2nd to be honest.

The Raiders are still a mess and unless JaMarcus Russell puts it all together fast (like Roethlesburger fast) the Raiders are still going to be a really bad team.

I see the Broncos being the Chiefs a couple years ago. They are in serious decline and this could be the year they bottom out.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 PM CDT   0 recs

19-0

I steer my bark with hope in the head, leaving fear astern. My hopes indeed sometimes fail, but not oftener than the forebodings of the gloomy.

-Thomas “The Official Constitutional Convention Parade” Jefferson

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 2, 2008 9:28 PM CDT   0 recs

Ohhh

I was wondering where you got your name.

by primetime 07 on Sep 2, 2008 9:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That Was An Excellent Miniseries

Pulled HBO out of its post-Sopranos slump for a bit. “Generation Kill” I thought was pretty good too.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 2, 2008 10:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The PARADE

Needs to teach a college class on pop culture. Man, you can find it, bring it, post it.

by sunny D on Sep 2, 2008 11:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That Line Made Me Laugh When Iceman Said It

I knew quite a few guys like Iceman when I was in the service…always liked that personality type.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 3, 2008 8:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs