Would you....

by JackDublin on Sep 15, 2008 3:55 PM CDT Comment 17 comments

I suggested in the offseason that we not even tinker with Brodie Croyle. He has talent, but has proven over and over that he cannot stay healthy. Unfortunately, we don't really have a competent back up either. So, we have two options..

Ride this train and draft Tebow or Daniels in April.
Would you.....trade LJ for Brady Quinn? And if LJ is worth more, would you ask for a draft pick as well?

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Personally

I don’t think LJ is happy and either is Quinn. So……do it.

by JackDublin on Sep 15, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LJ

Again, salary cap considerations are at play here, so we probably can’t trade Johnson in the second year of a massive 6 year contract. Second, LJ hasn’t demonstrated that he’s close to the runner he was in 2006, and while that may not be a big factor to Chiefs fans, (who want to believe that LJ is only bad because of the offensive line or the rotten QB situation), other NFL teams aren’t going to share that optimism…particularly not enough to trade a potential #1 QB for a running back who hasn’t looked good in 2 years. Third, the Browns already have a RB in Jamal Lewis and he’s having a better season than Johnson this year (and had a much better season than him last year). Fourth, until Derek Anderson demonstrates that last year wasn’t a fluke they could very well decide to go with Quinn, so they aren’t hot to trade him.

This isn’t Madden…NFL teams don’t give away starting-quality QBs for disgruntled, potentially washed up running backs.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Sep 15, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep

There’s a reason trades are relatively rare in the NFL. I thought the reasoning is that LJ’s bonus would be accelerated to 2009 leaving us with a massive cap hit, and especially massive considering the player wouldn’t even be on our team anymore.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would cry if this happened

Cuz i’d be so happy! I love LJ to death but running backs are a dime a dozen in this league and we have two fast young running backs that can get the job done with the right blocking, and the line just needs a right side G and T. But anyways Quinn would be well worth a 1st and 2nd round pick and whatever else because you don’t have the worry of what you’re getting cuz u already know that ur gettin a solid, hard working, mobile quaterback that has a ton of abilty. And u know gettin rid of LJ is a much harder process so that probably wont happen but Quinns worth going after without giving up LJ

by TheBigGlenndorsement on Sep 15, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A 1st AND 2nd pick

for a QB who is yet to really play? Don’t think so.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Sep 16, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bet we could snag Daniel as late as the third round.

Even though he’s an elite college QB, he always starts out in the shotgun and is pretty short for an NFL QB.

by Vince D on Sep 15, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Contradiction

…always starts out in the shotgun and is pretty short for an NFL QB.

Out of that I got we have no clue if he can properly adapt to taking the ball under center and is undersized.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh

I just reread your comment – you weren’t really calling for Daniel. Ignore that!

by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how about we address our oline?

this is pretty typical fan-style GMing.

Go for the big sexy name, either a QB or a probowler at some other skill position, never what actually needs to be addressed.

Remember when Cleveland drafted Joe Thomas? The fans BOOED. I was one of them. But we were wrong in our desperate search for what we thought we needed, and missed the fact that you cant do ANYTHING with a crappy o line. You cant run, you cant pass, nothing.

And drafting o linemen has of late been much safer than drafting QBs.

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 15, 2008 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Other than LT

No offensive line position is worth taking in the first round (eh, I guess you could make a case for RT late in the first).

And after the 1st round, the average fans’ knowledge drops off dramatically.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

coudlnt we draft an LT

and move ba to rg/rt?

idk that might be stupid but the oline needs to be our no1 priority in my opinion

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 15, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

At least it doesn’t look broke so far. I think Albert is looking good.

by Joel Thorman on Sep 15, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah i actually tend to agree

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 15, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Neither choice is an option

The Browns aren’t going to trade Quinn and the Chiefs aren’t going to trade LJ. He can whine like a little prima donna all he wants, but thats all it is.

Daniels does not have NFL QB capability and frankly Im getting kind of tired of hearing about it. He is a GREAT college QB, but that means absolutely nothing in relation to the NFL.

by ChiefDJ on Sep 15, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

same goes for tebow

Naming my son Brodie Damon

by troy145 on Sep 15, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tend to agree with you on that sentiment

but if they’re giving Thigpen a shot, Ingles Martin (still I say, who?), and whoever that guy they tried out from the Cowgirls practice squad a look, why the hell not. I am sure he’ll get drafted somewhere. The guy is accurate as all get out, and can move.

Personally, I think the Tigers could have given the Chiefs a worse ass-kicking than the Raiders did on Sunday.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Sep 16, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs