Preseason Week 3 Chiefs Roundup
Here are thoughts from a few different places on Saturday night's game. I'm working on a game recap which I'll put up tomorrow morning. Feel free to express your thoughts here and in the FanPosts section.
Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star - Chiefs’ offense, defense and special teams all flounder in loss
Herm Edwards knew that with a young, rebuilding team, the Chiefs would have days like this.
That might be understandable against an established opponent like New England in the regular-season opener or San Diego later in the year.
But the Chiefs weren’t competitive Saturday night against another one of the NFL’s forlorn teams. The Miami Dolphins, 1-15 last season, dominated the Chiefs in every phase, winning 24-0.
Palm Beach Post - Dolphins dominate to complete shutout of Chiefs
No Zach. No J.T. No problem.
A Dolphins' defense without a face or an All-Pro force heading into the season continued to show signs it might be ready to re-establish itself.
Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star - Chiefs linebacker Johnson wants team to get losing out of its system
Derrick Johnson is digging in his travel bag, looking for something to feel good about.
"We lost so much last year," the Chiefs linebacker says, "we don’t want none of that. We don’t want nothing to do with last year."
Saturday night looked a lot like last year. The Chiefs went 4-12 in 2007, ending with nine consecutive losses. Johnson has no trouble remembering that.
More Kent Babb: Not a special night for Chiefs’ Savage, Sams
While the Chiefs searched for answers Saturday night, they instead discovered another big question.
With one game left in this preseason, the Chiefs are 1-2 and clinging to any strength they can muster. Special teams might not be one of them.
Jon Yoon of Home of the Chiefs: The Kansas City Chiefs Suck and That’s a Good Thing
There is no other way to say it: the Chiefs were disgustingly bad in their preseason loss to the Dolphins. The third preseason game is typically the most important. It’s the game where starters tend to play longer, schemes are more true to regular season form, players competing for their jobs tend to play a little bit harder. If this is the closest representation to what we can expect from the Chiefs in 2008, then prepare your vomit bags. It’s going to be a bumpy ride.
Bob Gretz at The Mothership - No Points Sinks Chiefs In Miami, 24-0
It’s an impossible task to win any football game without being able to erase the pre-game zero on the scoreboard. The Chiefs were reminded of that Saturday at Dolphin Stadium, as they were shut out by the Miami Dolphins 24-0.
The Chiefs offense simply could not sustain any momentum or production throughout the game. Only once did they penetrate the scoring zone against the Dolphins and that possession ended short of the goal line. In fact, the Chiefs got inside Miami’s 45-yard line just two times.
Jeff Darlington at the Miami Herald - Big plays have Dolphins fans cheering again
It took only a tap on the helmet.
That might have been the gesture that mattered most Saturday night, the one Dolphins coach Tony Sparano quietly and subtly delivered to Chad Pennington as the quarterback left the field after a second-quarter touchdown drive at Dolphin Stadium.
Merlin at Arrowhead Addict - Miami Massacre
Wow, that was one extremely ugly performance. There is nothing like getting bitch slapped by a one win team to send everyone to a Jim Jones inspired chug of Kool-Aid. After the dust clears, let’s examine the remains for some clues. To wit, what have we learned?
KCChiefs.com - Chiefs-Dolphins Postgame Quotes
(Did you see this coming at all?) – "No, no, I did not. Because I thought we had a good week, and like I said, the last two weeks, we played halfway decent. And I thought we would do that this week, but it didn’t happen."
Consider me firmly in the camp of "It's only the preseason!" I cannot bring myself to give three presason games enough weight where we're drawing conclusions about what 2008 as a whole will look like. Give me a good chunk of 2008 completed and I'll make some firmer statements about the long term future of some players and coaches.
Saturday's game was still terrible, no matter what your overall perspective is. More to come tomorrow morning.
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Merlin
Thanks for the link, Chris! It was actually Merlin’s piece.
by arrowheadaddict on Aug 24, 2008 9:38 PM CDT 0 recs
Since we don't play Chicago this year...
i figure this is the best time to post this.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 24, 2008 9:41 PM CDT 0 recs
Dude that was plumb nasty!
The bear was poo propelled!
by Eric Allen on
Aug 24, 2008 10:14 PM CDT
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Looking for reasons
I was too miserable to post much after that game. Had to wait 24 hours. Here’s what I’m wondering…
1. I haven’t seen people talk about the injuries — other than threats to jump off a cliff as they were announced over the past 2-3 weeks. But here was part of the picture Saturday night: Out for KC: T Branden Albert, WR Will Franklin, RB Jamaal Charles, TE Brad Cottam, LB Demorrio Williams, LB Donnie Edwards, CB Tyron Brackenridge, S Jon McGraw, DE Trevor Johnson, WR Kevin Robinson. D-Mac is banged up, and Dorsey is just back from injury. It’s not that they’re all starters, and like Herm says, we expect anyone to play well when it’s their time. I can’t help but think that the combination of Franklin, Cottam and Charles affected some of the play calling. And I don’t care how well Pat Thomas can play the mike — when the equivalent of the QB position on defense has that little experience, the communication and responsibility breakdowns are going to be greatly magnified. (And what we thought would be a relatively simple competition between rookie Robinson and safety net Sams has turned into a revolving audition that darkhorse Dantrell appears to be winning, imho — difficult sideline play excepted.)
2. Timing. When the timing on offense is off, the QB is the one who looks especially bad. Are throws going to the right place, but the receivers do something inconsistent? Do receivers not get their jobs done in the first place, forcing the QB to eat the ball or scramble? When we settle on the 5 WRs, and give Brodie the bulk of the snaps during the week and for an entire game, I’m counting on the timing getting enormously better. Experience is about the only way to work on the timing. And we have to do it against a multitude of teams/schemes, not just the same guys from the Chiefs’ D every day in practice. Although, I would have expected the Croyle-Bowe connection to be better right now.
3. New offense. I don’t care how simple the offense is, it takes time for a QB to create a mental image of where all the receivers will be on a particular play. I think that’s part of the reason we’re seeing QBs stare at one receiver. When the plays solidify in their heads, the QBs mental clock will automatically know where all the receivers are at 1001, 1002, 1003. (seconds ticking by…) Then they can actually read one or two key defenders and “know” where the high percentage play will be. And consider more than one receiver. The offensive playbook is still “new.”
4. Pass protection by the running backs was poor. Sometimes the o line takes the heat when LJ or Manderino miss their assignments, imo. I have faith that Cox will get the job done for the most part from what I’ve seen. I am also counting on Charles or someone whose initials aren’t LJ to be the back on third down. Kolby, Jamaal and Dantrell are going to get quite a few touches at RB this year, I believe. LJ will be watching more than he would prefer.
5. Carousels at LB, Oline and WR. In spite of what I thought was a greater emphasis having the first team practice together more during training camp, it didn’t work out that way. Injuries are the biggest reason for the O tackles. Surprising performances or an unwillingness to be coached were apparent reasons at LB. And at wide receiver, it seems like the guys starting lower on the depth chart (Franklin, Price) have outperformed the guys above them (Darling, Webb), creating an undesirable rotation of WRs. Although Darling has had enough reps with the first team that I’m seriously beginning to question his intellect. Or something. I don’t mean that as a slam. I just really wonder if he can remember what to do and how to apply the principles being taught once the lights come on. I’ve got high expectations for him, but they’re fading.
6. Coaching. I don’t know which ones. But when a team looks as bad as it did as a whole Saturday night, I have to start analyzing the coaching. Do they know how to teach? Do they spend time on the right things? Do they prepare the players in a way that the players know how to think for themselves without someone yelling in their ear after every move they make?
I’m afraid the solutions for most of these problems involve time. Time to heal; time to learn; time for things to become second nature; time to gain experiences of using the new systems against different opponents; time to know how your teammates are going to execute and how to complement one another’s strengths; time for the first and second year players to learn the tricks of the profession; time for one more draft — one where we will only need to fill a half dozen holes and not 20.
So I will bring my level of hope up for the next game. I will be looking for just the right amount that will allow me to think positive thoughts. Believe there is a chance. Yet not so high that performances like Saturday night send me into a tailspin and nuke all perspective. Go Chiefs! This Thursday, show us that the Saturday nightmare was just a stepping stone that took place in a preseason game.
by sunny D on Aug 24, 2008 11:38 PM CDT 0 recs
Injuries
What did I hear about MacIntrash now having problems with his achilles? I thought I heard them say something about it when he was pulled for Barry Richardson (who didn’t do too bad I thought).
I have to say that I think Mac will be replaced sooner than later at RT – likely with the oft mentioned Taylor to RT when Albert returns. His ankle/leg is so spotty now that we should allow someone else to prepare with the 1st team and let Mac be there for back up/fill in situations. We can’t count on him to finish a game anymore.
by Ochophosphate on
Aug 24, 2008 11:51 PM CDT
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Even McGyver couldn't assemble a tackle from Mac's parts
I thought Mac did a good job last year and thought he would be one of the five guys on the line this year. I wonder if the move from one side to the other isn’t harder than people think. Herb Taylor has been going back and forth, and that seems easier. If you play one side for several years, I don’t have proof but have to believe that muscles on certain sides of your body build up unevenly. You would develop a quick step to your left on the speed rush. And be angled a certain way most of the time. I wonder if moving to the other side contributes to the possibility of injury? Surely there’s government grant money begging for such research??? :)
So I don’t know if a little duct tape will allow Mac to be a good reserve for us this year, or whether the youth movement will dislodge yet another veteran in favor of a young pick-up from another team after August 28.
The Richardson vs. Mac argument is a microcosm of last year vs. this year. Do we hang on to decent players from the past and hope our trainers can work miracles with braces and bandages, or do we bite the bullet and see Richardson whiff a few times, but let him learn and grow?
by sunny D on
Aug 25, 2008 12:04 AM CDT
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bite the bullet
he’s not covering the blindside, so he’s slightly less likely to get Croyle killed if he whifs on a block, but we need to give him some playing time to develop…
by PVChiefsfan on
Aug 25, 2008 7:35 AM CDT
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I Thought We Agreed
Not to talk about this game, ever, ever, ever, ever, eve, ever, ever again? Ever?

by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 24, 2008 11:48 PM CDT 0 recs
Despair.com is a very funny place
Well, unless their posters turn out to be just a little too true.
Thanks for the smile. And your other great visuals, Matt.
Does the black border allow it to qualify as dark humor?
by sunny D on
Aug 24, 2008 11:53 PM CDT
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Hope this isn't too over the top
This isn’t a true “Demotivator” from despair.com… but it has long been one of my favorites. Wholly impertinent to this discussion, but maybe it will brighten your day.

by Ochophosphate on Aug 25, 2008 12:04 AM CDT 0 recs
The pictures are enjoyable
But we may have to put a moratorium on them because of page loading times.
by Chris on Aug 25, 2008 7:22 AM CDT 0 recs
I haven't had a problem
maybe it’s time to upgrade from the old 14.4 modem =)
by PVChiefsfan on
Aug 25, 2008 7:37 AM CDT
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After seeing that polar bear video
I’m so glad you can’t embed YouTube videos in the comments.
by Chris on
Aug 25, 2008 8:10 AM CDT
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Probably
has more to do with the hyperlink used to embed the image than the image itself. That “chances” one I put in above was from some off-brand janky website that probably isn’t hosted by the fastest of servers itself. Images embedded from better sites (say NFL.com or SI, ESPN etc.) would likely load faster.
I’m indifferent about them in general… but I must say I’m still chuckling about the retarded dolphin image that Parade put in in the huge gameday thread. How can we pass up gems like that?!?
by Ochophosphate on
Aug 25, 2008 8:37 AM CDT
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