Open Thread: Kansas City Chiefs (1-1) @ Miami Dolphins (1-1)
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 3:04 PM CDT
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PrintKansas City Chiefs at Miami Dolphins, Aug 23, 2008 6:30 PM CDT
Where: Dolphins Stadium, Miami Gardens, FL
When: 6:30 PM Central
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Alright Kansas City Chiefs fans. Today is the third game of the 2008 preseason, meaning we'll get to see the starters play a good chunk of the game.
I'm on a mad scramble to find a place where I can watch this game, considering NFL Sunday Ticket doesn't carry the preseason games so no bar is going to have it. If you know of a place online that is streaming live video of the game (shhh, I won't tell), shoot me an e-mail.
If you haven't been around here on gameday, the auto-refresh comment feature is too cool and makes the game thread virtually a chat room. It's one of my favorite, if not my favorite feature of SB Nation sites.
I'm posting this thread early so get your predictions in for the game before it starts.
GO CHIEFS!!!!
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The wife says...
“feel my pain for the last 13 years”
Yeah, all of the local bars we called are showing the Jets Giants game here in NY. All hail 101thefox I suppose but it just isn’t the same.
Blame my wife!
i rarely get the chiefs on tv nw that i have sunday ticket when the game comes on i turn it down and put on 101 the fox mitch holthus kicks ass!!!
http://www.myp2pforum.eu/nfl-cfl-afl/25793-nfl-pre-season-week-3-streaming-thread.html
put this in ur address bar and go to it although the chiefs and dolphins game isnt confirmed yet it should be confirmed by gametime that is where i watched the last two pre season games
GO CHIEFS!!
Yes!
I didn’t see this link if you didn’t.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not the kinda thing you "unsee"
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Sarcasm Parade
Surely you’re familiar?
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Beggars can't be choosers...
…and personally, I’ll put up with Chiefs and Chopper (ha) rather than nothing.
GO CHIEFS!!
I've always
thought that it would be easy for Ricky Williams to get back to top notch form. Not that he’s there yet but he’s a hell of an athlete.
Um.
I dream of the day that Dorsey is in NFL condition. Our interior push is unfortunate.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Dolphins are
marching right down the field.
Our run defense is playing about how I expected unfortunately.
Heatseeker
DJ is a freaking heatseeker. He just missles to wherever the ball is.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions
Showing some pride
making them work for this.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
Definitely
At least they didn’t stuff it right in.
I’m happy with 3.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Page
Page is such a good tackler. Him and Pollard really look good. I don’t know if they’ll ever learn to really attack the ball, but they don’t whif very often.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:50 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed
For as suspect as they’ve been, they stiffened up and held them to three.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its only one guy streaming the game
So there isn’t much bandwith to go around.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
And Sippio
puts another nail in his coffin.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:52 PM CDT reply actions
Anybody
else think Dante Hall may have cursed our return game? I’m just saying. Trading him seems to have doomed us. Maybe the Joystick is actually an elf or something.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply actions
I have two pages up at the same time
I shrunk both so I can watch the game on the left and blog on the right! Amazing what old dogs can learn.
Thanks to whomever for the link to the game!
Offensive Line
crumpled like Dunder Mifflin fine quality product.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
I forget
how much power LJ has when he’s heatlhy.He’s like a cannon that can slide laterally.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
Yep
Doesn’t have to have that great o-line but it helps.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Show
Come now, Show. No need for such drops.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions
Yikes
Nice movement by Croyle, but when the blitz came, I knew we were screwed.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
How
are we ever going to figure out if Croyle’s the guy if he’s constantly got a hand on his shoulder when he’s trying to throw?
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions
Weird
Lots of three and four receiver sets. Very different.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:01 PM CDT reply actions
You know
when we roll out, that’s supposed to buy time.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:02 PM CDT reply actions
This is sad
How much of a pass rush do the Dolphins have without Jason Allen?
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's Jason Allen right?
The d-end who was traded?
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh come on Lanier
Rebuilding for three years! Catch the excitement!
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:07 PM CDT reply actions
I just don't want to see
Ricky Williams run over us again. Our run defense is so suspect.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
We really
have got to find a franchise DT. I mean, if Dorsey ends up as one, awesome. But if he’s not down and out brilliant, we have to get one.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions
I like
Hali and think he could get there.
Plus, not having to worry (as much) about our DE killing a family after having one too many shots of Kickin’ Chicken.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not doubting Dorsey
I think he could be great, I"m just saying he needs to be. Because that’s been a hole for us, for what, ten years? More?
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
Announcers
Don’t rag on Brodie. He shouldn’t have to throw it away after his first progression because he has no time.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions
Ladies and Gentlemen
The offense of vomit.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
Tedd Ginn
I couldn’t’ figure out why people doubted him.
Oh, and that would be why we need one of those guys.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions
Chiefs Offense Motto
“Inspiring Alcoholism since 2006.”
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions
I don't expect TDs or INTs all the time
But I do expect our first team defense to run with the freakin’ Dolphins offense.
Chris
clearly you don’t understand the greatness of Chad Pennington.
The fact that he’s making us look bad makes me angry.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions
Well
Sams has been doing a few returns right?
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
DaJuan Morgan
Is pretty much the prototypical build for success.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
I also like
how Vonnie Holiday is having a good game against us. That’s fun.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions
(Breathing in)
(Breathing in)
Okay, I’m a bit calmer now. It is the preseason after all. Wining isn’t always the #1 objective.
Albert is out
But how much do we expect the line to improve with him in the game? He’s not superman.
For someone with a better view of the game, which side of the line is getting beat on these sacks?
Doesn't surprise me
Not sure what we saw in him.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
How's life by the way Lanier?
It’s been awhile.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
For those visiting us for the first time
Feel free to sign up and jump in the conversation.
We’d love to have you. Especially if you’re watching an actual TV with the game on….
Awful
They are playing awfull, i hope this isnt what we get to look forward too.
we arent
covering worth a crap, this is awfull. Not to mention the offense is back to its normal ways.
Oh Page
like I said. Hits well. No good in coverage. Wish there was a position in between linebacker and safety.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions
The fans at the Phinsider
think they’re the second coming of the ’07 Patriots.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling
this year is going to be one of those years that teaches you exactly how bad it can be so that everything afterwards doesn’t seem as unbearable.
“Well, sure, but at least they’re not as bad as the 08 team.”
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions
You
Dont want to watch, it is depressing.
Am I the only one not that impressed with Savage?
Yeah he’s been effective in the first couple days, but he’s been effective against the 2nd and 3rd stringers..
Hasn’t done much tonight against the Phin’s first teamers..
ouch
As bad as it sounds, it may be true.
I'm a little irritated
that the announcers keep blasting Croyle, when he has no time to throw.
Also, I hate that two receiver, two tight end on one side bunch formation. It’s pretty much the most predictable set, ever.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
Croyle has been treated
unfairly for a long time.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
5 wins
is our over/under. I’ll take the under. 4-12 would be good.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
Take it for what you wish
But Rich Baldinger did bring up a good point. Phins are playing a 3-4 defense and we havnt seen that yet.
Great clock
by Mike Cox.
That’s what she said.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
What's that?
3rd 12 and we pass for 2 yards? yeah. That’s us, allright. Gailey hasn’t changed that much in our club.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions
Well
What are the odds of a first down on that play? Very low.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not go down this road again
Abandoning every 3rd and long is not a good strategy. We know this.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to need
More booze this season. Much more booze.
“Great seasons are still available for the regular season”
You don’t say!
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions
I told you about the Boulevard beer in Austin
Stock up my friend.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
We're going to need
something stronger.
Like gasoline.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll mix up some bathtub gin
and invite you over.
On Sunday mornings. Before the game starts.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a mountain of crap on a continent of suck on planet ass
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep
No positive way to spin this except for the standard, “It’s the preseason!” line.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
its the dolphins
no excuse
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus
This is the third preseason game, the traditional game where you play your starters the longest and hardest.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Next game
should be a good indicator. If we’re noticably worse than the Rams? I may have to get therapy to block this season out.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Four
missed tackles. On the Dolphins.
Randy Moss may break the single game receiving record against us.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
nu-uh
Randy Moss may break the single game season receiving record against us!
There corrected it for you
Blame my wife!
Okay
As long as its Flowers, I don’t mind as much. He’s going to miss them. So did Quinton Jammer and Dunta Robinson.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
Well, at least we start out against the Pats at home
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
Umm..
http://www.kcchiefs.com/schedule/
Can never figure out if you’re being sarcastic parade.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
*Their home
…and when in doubt consider the name.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
No shit
You know, Gunther’s time is quickly coming to a head.
Just because he’s a hardass doesn’t make him a good defensive coordinator.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Woah
The schemes are there. The talent’s not.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Not enough time
to let the receivers get there.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
I want to talk
about th youngsters and the good things I see.
I don’t see any.
I hate life.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
It's my first live game!
And I found Boulevard beer in Austin!
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's face it
The joy is coming from the beer, not the game.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, it's a trifecta of suck
1. O-line = FAIL
2. Defense can’t tackle
3. Brodie tossed up a INT
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions
WWDJS
What would DJ say? That’s my new attitude.
DJ would say it’s preseason, and it doesn’t mean anything
And that they’re showing progress… by… something…
And that it’s probably Vermeil’s fault. yeah, there we go.
Freaking Vermeil!
DJ, when you read this, I’m just kidding.
But seriously, stay on the bright side, Dorsey and Flowers will get better and they’re two huge parts of this debacle. I’m going to walk the dog and try not to vomit on my shoes.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
....
I thought this waws a going back to the basics pre-season situation. Can someone on the CHiefs coaching staff teach these idiots how to tackle? I personally think Gunther has outlived his usefullness in KC.
It'd take a lot more to shake the PARADE'S faith in Gunther's quality as a coach
That said, this is embarassing
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Honored
Stay tuned, I’ve got at least 2 more solid jokes back owed to chris
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Call him
Someone tell Herm to give a shout up to the radio booth, maybe Lenny can come down and take a few snaps and do something with the offense.
I think it was to get a turnover!
We do not need points we are going to win with defense!
Kurt Shottenheimercanteverspellitcorrectlyski?
I know he was special teams about that time
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
A sideline shot of Chad Pennington:
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Okay, I'm back
We’re doing better, right? Right, guys? Guys?
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
ARRRRRRGGGHHH!!!
Honestly. I could make a 1/2 yard push into the end zone off the Miami “defense.”
Bah.
you
have. got. to. be. kidding. me.
Dante Hall is vengeful.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions
Off-topic
Why would CBS promote golf at the halftime of the NFL preseason game, with College football starting next weekend? really?
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
In other news...
…looks like Kenya’s Wansiru in the lead in the men’s marathon with about a mile to go. Should you wish for a small diversion on NBC.
Notice
how the announcers immediately start praising Huard. I’ve got a bad idea we’re going to see Damon 4 MVPZ 2: Electric Bugaloo this season, guys.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
So
if we get shut out in a preseason game versus the Dolphins, I mean, ….
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions
Huard
intercepted. Wow.
Thigpen is our only hope.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions
We're still in the third quarter?!
Ugh.
And Chris — I got the boot off SBN for about 5 minutes. Had to relaunch a browser window to get back in and it’s still running a bit slow. Kind of like the Chiefs lines.
Yes
I have a little pin stuck in the field at Arrowhead that could block better than these guys.
Blame my wife!
Well, at least the Roy...
What?
This is more depressing than when I tried to remake “Leaving Las Vegas” only set in a T.G.I. Fridays.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
Perhaps an overflow thread is in order?
It’s cause they hate our freedom
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe
Seems to be working okay now.
We were having issues with 400+ comment threads on draft day and supposedly the techs fixed that.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
…it’s far too early in the year for that to be happening. I mean, is it right to go through all five Kubler-Ross stages before the actual season?!
sigh
Could be the 'Phant
Although my new concoction of Sparkiling Rose and Pernod is only slightly cheerier
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So much better/more potential
than Sippio.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
If this was regular season, that 15 yards unsportsmanlike on Parker. At least someone wants to hit someone, though.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
What happened on the kickoff where Savage ran out of bounds at the 2?
How does that happen?
I think he
didn’t know where his feet where.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a little stunned
that our defense has regressed as well. I mean, with as bad as our offense is, we don’t have a whole lot of room to regress if wer’e going to even have a shot.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
The loss of Jared Allen?
Did we underestimate his role?
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far
Dorsey hasn’t played a down of regular season football
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
There was the LJ
five yard run. That was promising.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
As bad as the Texans
seriously, our quarterbacks are going to spend more time on their backs than … I’m too depressed to make a hooker joke.
WWDJS, WWWDJS…
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions
At least our back-ups are...
“What do you mean you’re out of jalapeno poppers?”
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
Question
What did you search to find that? Or did you immediately search “Nic Cage photo”?
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
"leaving las vegas" images
The photo really shaped the comment.
Googling is really an art of sorts
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a good thing
When the other team is the Dolphins
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I mentioned it more as an interesting point
than a positive one. We have given up 5 sacks.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I follow
Just throwing the PARADE flavor on it
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the open thread
As long as you’re not insulting anyone, have the fuck at it.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then!
For fuck’s sake, man!!!
(Somehow, it loses impact five minutes after the curse-causing event. But thanks anyway!)
Below the fold
any language goes.
For the most part.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys!!
Atleast you have your blog open, our is down, since little after the 2nd started.
BTW, i has laught a lot reading your post.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
Try closing your browser
and restarting it.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks BTW
Glad someone reading this is entertained.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Any one else ever worry that Herm is too "old school"
Occasionally the PARADE is watching a press conference and thinks man, Herm’s really explaining a lot.
I know that’s probably silly to worry about, but I don’t see other coaches outlining their gameplans as much.
It’s a great for us, but there’s a general behind the times feel the PARADE gets for Herm.
Examples:
Apparently they’re using hand signals
Chan Gailey’s nutin fancy speeches
the clock management/penalty thing
doesn’t use internet
Again this all probably pretty silly, but in a post-spygate world is Herm running around the NFL getting nice guy suckerpunched
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
Confession
Herm does use the internet.
He is really DJ.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks!!
I will try that
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
We had similiar issues
Probably network wide.
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
How about the camera following the
swimmers to the shower after they dive??
by Chris Thorman on Aug 23, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Clearly we're coming back
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 23, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply actions
OH Jesus
This cannot be fucking happening.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions
Dude this team has gone backward already
Hermball sucks, he must go!
Will Franklin
Who will take over the No. 3 receiver spot now that Franklin is out 2-4 weeks?
WWDJS
It’s only the preseason…
It’s only the preseason…
It’s only the preseason…
It’s only the preseason…
It’s only the preseason…
It’s only the preseason…
Chant with me, friends.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
Problem
We can’t criticize Herm till December. Not with the turnover in roster. Should we be playing better than this? Absolutely. but we have to wait till December, or we’re wasting or breath. If we’ve shown no improvement at the end of the season, I’ll be the first to pick up the war drums again.
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
I am already there!
This is crap the team has already back slid. The first drive against chicago gave everyone hope,but we still suck!
One bright point...
…is that we get the Patriots game over with early and quick. Kind of like ripping off a Band-Aid.
Okay
If it’s okay with you guys, I’d like to just go ahead and pretend that never happened. Cool?
by Ridiculous Matt on Aug 23, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
The way we looked against the phins
They better win the SB !
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