Shawne Merriman's torn PCL
UCrawford mentioned this in the comments of the Position Review: Linebackers post, but it was buried pretty deep so I wanted to start a new thread to get your opinions.
So Shawne Merriman has apparently torn his PCL - the report on NFLN is here. From what I can gather from this article, it sounds like he is considering playing this season with it injured. I don't know much about which CL is more critical, but I was under the impression that tearing any of them is a bad situation (ACL, MCL, PCL). It sounds like Norv is on board with whatever as well... but is more concerned with him being available if they make the playoffs.
I can understand not wanting to lose a critical part of your defense (Norv) and not wanting to sit out an entire season (Shawne), but does it seem crazy to anybody else that he is hoping for a little patch-job so that he can play this season?? I'm trying to think of how I would feel if it were Derrick Johnson in a similar situation... of course the Chiefs aren't expected to be a contender like San Diego is, so the circumstances are different. I'd probably tell Derrick to get healthy so he can come back next year when we will be more potent.
Anyway, what are your thoughts on this? Is it madness?
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ACL Is The Worst
If a player tears that he’s unable to cut at all without risking destroying the rest of his knee. PCL isn’t as bad but I believe it’s still season-ending to have surgery to repair. MCL is not that horrible, or common (it usually takes an odd hit to cause it), that’s what Adrian Peterson tore last year and he was able to come back and be effective after just a few weeks. LaDainian Tomlinson tore his as well at the end of the year, but didn’t require surgery and was reportedly fully recovered by May (just four months later).
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Aug 23, 2008 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As For Playing
He’s 24 and if he has the surgery he could play another four or five years or more (and he’ll be around a lot longer after that) so I think he’d be foolish to play. On the other hand, championship windows don’t stay open long in the NFL (especially in San Diego), his contract is up in a year, and he may not fully recover so he may see this as his last, best shot at a ring. So I can see the allure.
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by UCrawford on Aug 23, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repair = season ending
Yeah, I think it mentions that in the article. This is apparently what is the big decision at this point. Does he have it repaired and potentially end his season, or forgo surgery and hope he makes it through the season ok.
Not that I wish injury on anyone – game, season or career ending – but it seems to be fortuitous to the Chiefs in either situation. Either he gets surgery and we don’t face him all year… or he plays through and I imagine he will be less effective as a result. I suggest he will be less effective because I believe he will be mentally cautious if playing with a torn ligament and he will also be dealing with pain to boot.
Like someone mentioned in the other thread… at least we won’t have to see his dance (aka “the seizure stomp”) of which I, for one, am not a fan.
by Ochophosphate on Aug 23, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read over at cbs sports
He has two tears the pcl and the lcl. If he does not have the surgery it could turn out to be career ending. Looks like we will not face the roid head this season. If he plays he is a complete idiot.
by Eric Allen on Aug 23, 2008 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Think He's Worried About Losing A Year Heading Into Free Agency and Possibly A Championship
Like I said before, championship windows in the NFL are small and the Chargers are a championship-caliber team. I can understand why he’d want to be part of that. But I agree with Eric, the guy’s foolish if he tries to play on that. If he can recover, his career will be a lot longer than next season.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Aug 24, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say let him play!!!!!
He has tears in both the posterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments.Doctors agree that he needs surgery to repair the damage. So with that being said let him play. He’s the one that is going to regret not getting surgery and that is only good news for us. Remember that juice, roids taking ass wipe took Priest Holmes out of football. And I’m sure he was juice up at the time. So he deserves what comes he’s way. Thats what you get for being a cheater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Derrick*58*Liveson! on Aug 24, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I Said...
I don’t wish injuries on anyone.Frankly, if you’re wishing that Merriman gets hurt you’re lacking perspective and aren’t in any moral position to dictate what people “deserve” and what they don’t.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Aug 24, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Put it that way, I am with you Derrick.
As far as wishing injuries upon players, I have never before felt it acceptable to ever wish an injury upon any player in any sport. Wishing an injury upon any player is quite possibly one of the lowest things another human can do. Never is a game more important than another player getting hurt, at any level in sports.
However, this is a very special scenario. The hit that Shawne Merriman layed on Priest Holmes was one of the dirtiest hits that I have seen.
As Priest Holmes was finally dragged down, Shawne Merriman came from the middle of the field and layed the biggest ear-hole I have ever seen by planting his forehead into the side of Priests head, and the rest is history. Why did this happen? Because Merriman is jacked up on roids and is just looking for a big hit? I’m am suprised he didn’t do his stupid dance afterwards.
With that came the end of the age of Priest, and eventually the end of Willie Roaf too. If Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson (who was obviously breaking out at the beginning of the year) both rushed for over 1000 yards, maybe Willie would have felt a little more confident coming back to the Chiefs. Just a thought.
So now we come to a sticky situation. Shawne Merriman has recieved a knee injury that if played upon could end his career. Wait, your telling me he knows that this could put an end to his career? As far as I am concerned, the man has been warned. If he really wants a Super Bowl that bad, he is more than welcome to risk his career for it. After all, what is having to walk with a cane when your 50 compared to having serious spinal damage anyways?
I will never go so far as to say that I wish he gets injured, but I can’t say that I will lose sleep if he ends his career in week 2 and the Chargers lose their first playoff game.
by Ben S on Aug 24, 2008 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
UCrawford…I will never wish anything bad to happen to any human being, but I am one that feels as a personal opinion that if you do the crime you deserve the time. So with that being said this statement “you’re lacking perspective and aren’t in any moral position to dictate what people "deserve" and what they don’t.” is out of context. What I’m trying to say is that… someone that feels the need for supplements or any other kind of enhancement other than you’re on physical strength does not deserve the chance to be in any type of Championship race no matter what sport your playing. So if he wants to play let him play. He knows the consequences if he plays with out getting the surgery done. Like Ben S said “As far as I am concerned, the man has been warned. If he really wants a Super Bowl that bad, he is more than welcome to risk his career for it.” Enough said.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today". James Dean
by Derrick*58*Liveson! on Aug 25, 2008 1:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair Enough
I get your point now and I agree with the position that Merriman’s been warned and if he plays on the knee as it is (I think he’d be foolish to do so) that it’s on him. I just don’t think it’s got anything to do with steroids or Priest Holmes. Some players use steroids…always have, always will. It’s easy to hate Merriman a little more for it because obviously he’s a jackass out there on the field who loves rubbing it in on other players, but still he’s not really any better or worse than any other player who uses (and there have been a lot of prominent players who have).
As for Priest, hits in the NFL happen. I found his hit on Priest a borderline cheap shot, but I’ve also seen worse (Jack Tatum on Darryl Stingley, Richard Williamson on every player lying on the ground) and most players out there in the NFL aren’t intending to end anyone’s career. Career-ending injury is just the risk you take when you suit up, especially at running back, and let’s not forget that when he got hit Priest was already well into the age when running backs’ production drastically declines (in fact, his already was in decline) so it’s not like we suddenly lost Barry Sanders in his prime…more like we lost Emmitt Smith during his Arizona Cardinals years. Had Peterson not signed Holmes to that ridiculous contract, it’s likely that Holmes wouldn’t have been in the team’s plans for long after 2005 anyway.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Aug 25, 2008 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to feel sorry for injuries related to 'roids.
If anything, I hope that the torn tendons and the other downsides of misusing drugs for enhancement will begin to sink in with the younger athletes who are tempted by the short-term benefits.
the principal reason for baseball injuries associated with steroid use is that the increase of muscle mass or increased speed associated with anabolic steroid use is not accompanied by a proportionate increase in strength of the tendons, ligaments and joints.
by sunny D on Aug 25, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But We Also Don't Know It Was Steroid-Connected
For all we know, Merriman tore those ligaments because somebody tried to take out his knee. Keep in mind that his team has to play the Broncos at least twice a year just like we do and those are some of the dirtiest linemen in the NFL when it comes to blocking.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Aug 25, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs





















