Anquan Boldin?
by JasonM on Aug 20, 2008 8:43 AM CDT
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PrintFor the past couple weeks Anquan Boldin of the AZ Cardinals has made it known that he is not happy with his current situation, saying that he has no relationship whatsoever with his head coach. He has asked to be traded, stating that he wants to be treated fairly with a new contract. This guy would fit perfectly with the Kansas City offense, he catches everything, he is an outstanding blocker, and he is still pretty young(27). Should the Chiefs offer a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for this very talented WR? I think so! Adding Boldin to Bowe and Gonzalez would open up our running game that much more.
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I read the Boldin story last night and nearly jumped out of my chair yelling, “sign him!” He is a perfect fit, and it creates a situation in which Brodie almost HAS to succeed. Boldin is always open; Bowe is great and still learning; Gonzalez is still playing at a Pro Bowl level; and LJ is still one of the better backs in the league. With that group assembled, it would be one of the best talent cores in the league. There would be no excuse for failure, leaving only 2 or 3 holes on the offense (C, RG, QB?)
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 20, 2008 8:48 AM CDT reply actions
Boldin is very tempting
If the Chiefs got him, we would easily have the best corp in franchise history.
thats if
the cardinals upper office would actually trade him. right now they are still determined to sign him to a long term deal. if they would actually trade him, i would love to see him opposite bowe.
Boldin doesn't really have any leverage
He’s under contract until 2010. And by that time he’ll be tipping 30 which will certainly knock a few bucks off his multi-million signing bonus.
Problem Is
a) The Cards apparently aren’t interested in trading him, b) he had significant injury issues last year, c) he’s 28 and wide receivers usually start a quick decline around 30, and d) any trade is likely going to require signing Boldin to a big contract and I’m not sure that the Chiefs are going to be interested in doing that, especially at the expense of giving up two draft picks.
Now, if it was Larry Fitzgerald, I’d say it’s worth considering, but with Boldin I think we’re better off trying to find a wide receiver to develop with those draft picks.
ESPN also did a piece awhile ago (I can’t find it, happened during the Chad Johnson flare-up a couple of months ago) where they pointed out that teams that trade star wide receivers generally get worse while teams that acquire them don’t generally get much better. So that trade would represent a high-risk for the Cardinals in exchange for a probable low payoff for us. Not a great deal.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
I guess that the Randy Moss and Terrell Owens deals hurt their current teams?
a) it didn’t appear the Chiefs wanted to trade Jared Allen at first either, b) he had a minor hip problem and toe problem that caused him to miss 4 games, Not troubling to me. He still had 9 scores, c) he’s 27, he turns 28 midway thru the season and d) a four or five year deal worth 25-30 million with 15 guaranteed wouldn’t cripple us.
Exceptions, Not The Rule
You’ll also recall that Philadelphia and New England both added more than just one receiver to their team. In fact, both added Donte Stallworth and New England added Wes Welker. Not to mention that having the one of the dominant QBs of this era helped considerably. Plus, both Philly and the Patsies were very good teams to begin with, so it’s not as if the player had to come in to be a savior (Philly made it through the playoffs to the Super Bowl without T.O.).
As for Jared Allen, you’re making an apples-to-oranges comparison by trying to contrast a DE to a WR, so it’s an irrelevant comparison.
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No it's not
As for Jared Allen, you’re making an apples-to-oranges comparison by trying to contrast a DE to a WR, so it’s an irrelevant comparison.
The comparison was that although it APPEARS that Arizona doesn’t want to trade him, things can change (ala Jared Allen)…that has nothing to do with the position they play. They are both good players who were unhappy with current contracts.
by PVChiefsfan on Aug 20, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Whoops
My apologies Jason, I misread your post.
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The Post Contrasting Allen's and Owen's Situations, I Mean
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But hell no
are we going to trade 2 first day picks for Boldin – in fact, I would be surprised if the Cardinals don’t want a first rounder for him. I know all of us want to see this team take-off immediately, but we need to be patient…let’s see a few regular season games with a WR corp of Bowe, Darling, Franklin, and Price before we start looking for new team members =)
by PVChiefsfan on Aug 20, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Player yes, pricetag no.
Boldin would be a brilliant pickup for the Chiefs, but we’d probably have to fork over too much for him.
+1.
Exactly my take. Would love to have Boldin be a Chief, but I’m not willing to give up enough to make the deal happen.
If It Didn't Involve Draft Picks
I’d be fine with picking up Boldin as a free agent. But two first-day picks (or a first-rounder) would be mighty steep for the amount of risk and the contract he’d require.
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Draft
Remember this team wants to build up through the draft and though it sounds very tempting adding Boldin it would very much cripple are draft choices and would hurt the salary cap a lot too. i want him but its just not worth it….lets say next year after we hopefully add one other lineman and some other draft picks we could think about making that one trade that could put us from an 8-8 team to a playoff team contending in the playoffs….. Boldin will play this year for whoever but next year he probably will ask for a trade again and than maybe we can go for it depending on how his stock has risen or fallen
by IamtheGreatest on Aug 20, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions
I like our WR prospects already, but ...
What about a Pro Bowl Tackle? Jason Peters for the Bills has held out wanting a new contract. Their back-up has filled in very well and the owner has stated that he will not re-negotiate (can’t set a bad president). The guy has quite an upside and not a single downer. I’d love to see him get released! I doubt the reality of it, but I can fantasize, right?
Height: 6-4 Weight: 340 Age: 26
Born: 1/22/1982 Queen City , TX
College: Arkansas
Experience: 5th season
Bad President? :)
I wouldn’t be sad to see us snag Peters…even if it cost us a first-day draft pick (although I wouldn’t want to give up a first-rounder). Young outstanding tackles aren’t that easy to find, and with Branden Albert that would shore up the corners of our o-line for the next five or six years.
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Poor choice and spelling
Bingo, good catch and thanks. I should have said “bad precedence” ((the right of) going before in order of importance.
Example: This matter is urgent and should be given precedence over others at the moment. )
I am extremely happy with the possiblitly of “growing” our own young receiver corps. The talent is there now. I can see one or even two of the rookies becoming mini-D-Bowe’s (last year’s version) developing the WR unit into dominating receiving threat for many years.
I am less than comfortable with the O-line. We ARE better than last year and have some rising stars, but depth…dominance? Not yet. A young proven RT and RG would completely transform our line and entire offense. Giving Brodie time, opening up holes and sealing ends for the RBs, and blocking at the second level, prolonging drives, and keeping the def off the field for an additional 20 + plays per game. It all adds up! Could you even imagine what sort of impact two solid and competant players on the right side O-Line would do for us this year? The money would be worth it. I don’t know about draft pick values (MLB next year?), but it sure would excite me this year.
I’m proud of Herb T stepping in and doing well. I want him to start, but we really do need a rotational depth with diverse positional ability. He seems to fit anywhere. We also need some time to develop a protege for Brian Waters.
Actually :)
What you meant was it would set a bad precedent….as in, "the court looked to establish a precedent that future courts would examine…sorry about being the grammar cop =)
Perhaps
The Bills have a “bad president” and that’s why they haven’t resigned Peters.
:D
by Ochophosphate on Aug 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah,
but the Bills do have a bad president (or, more precisely, a bad owner). :) The rumors coming out of the owners meetings were that the NFL gave Ralph Wilson those games in Toronto because they were sick of listening to him bitch about how small-market his team is when it’s more just a factor of him being cheap.
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Herb Taylor
He’s been pretty good so far. Definitely stepped it up this preseason. If he hasn’t got a future at tackle, I think he’d look pretty darn good at guard.
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Size
If the argument of him being too small to play RT is given, then wouldn’t he be too small to play Guard as well? I figure since guards are facing the beefiest of the D-line with the Tackles… then that might be the case.
I’m of the mind that if the guy is good, or at least one of our 5 best O-linemen, we should find a way to slot him in. But I really don’t know/understand the nuances of real life O-line construction (as opposed to Madden O-line construction which is much, much simpler).
by Ochophosphate on Aug 20, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, Madden O-Line Construction
Where one can get Jeff Otah in trade for Kevin Robinson, Napolean Harris, and Damion McIntosh. God bless the crappy Madden trade engine…it’s created so many dynasties for me.
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Robinson
I’d have given the kid a shot, but frankly he was the suckiest kick returner I’ve ever played with on that game. That speed rating of 88 and nonexistent ability to break tackles or get to the holes in coverage made me throw up my hands in disgust.
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I Just Don't Play On MySkill
You can run at the “Pro” level (and after you build a line and train them up on run-blocking) but I’ve got to admit that I do like the computer taking better angles on the runners instead of either giving defenders superhuman speed or letting a RB continually break off 60 yard runs.
I just wish I could find a way to lock in my MySkill rating at “Pro” for the running game. When it gets to All-Pro, that’s where it becomes impossible. Pro level I get about 4 yards per carry with Marshawn Lynch (who I got in trade for LJ) and that seems realistic enough.
Passing’s a bit of a mixed bag at the All-Pro level…that “psychic DB” thing starts popping up again. Too many perfectly timed deflections with a CB’s back completely turned to the QB and too many players with a 60 inch vertical leap.
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MySkill
If I’m not mistaken, isn’t your initial skill determined by playing the ‘madden test’? On the running section, just don’t pass the all-pro level. I didn’t realize what I was doing at first which is why I have a rookie setting playing the run.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 21, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It Continually Adjusts, Though
After the games are played, the MySkill setting goes up and down (shown by green and red bars on the display, respectively). When it’s at Pro setting for the running game, I can run. When it inches up into All-Pro I can’t, until I suck in enough games that it goes down to Pro again. Finally I just gave up and decided to play at Pro setting all the time. I might give MySkill a shot in my second season or if I decide to start another franchise, just not now.
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The Big Plus For MySkill
Most of my games were very close, which was definitely fun. I beat the Raiders with a 40 yard field goal in the last three seconds. But I’m also a stats guy in franchise and it irritates me when I can’t get more than a 2.8 ypc with my superstar running back. Just doesn’t seem realistic.
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sounds annoying
I like a close game as much as the next guy, but as one of my close friends once put it – “I don’t play this game to struggle”.
I’m usually of this mindset. I’m used to playing on All-Pro and snuffing the computer by 70-90 points on average. It sounds like they’ve really made some adjustments this year. I usually play Madden for stats anyway. I treat it like an RPG where the characters are constantly changing, and my party is 55 characters deep (not sure if they’ve upped that yet or not). I like taking a guy with awesome attributes but a low OVR due to some weak points, and turning him in to a 99 OVR dominator. I like developing young players and FA’s that other teams couldn’t develop (in Madden ‘06 I snagged Shawne Merriman when he was in his late 20’s because he never developed at San Diego – I had him and Derrick Johnson as my OLB’s). I don’t mind letting great veterans go in favor of young draftees, because that releases good talent for the cpu to beef up other teams.
Anyway, while this myskill thing sounds like an interesting concept, it seems like another BS feature… and one that EA didn’t fully polish before implementing. If it’s dynamic like that, the jump between difficulties shouldn’t be so dramatic. I would probably do the same thing you did and turn it off or set it to Pro permanently or whatever (not sure cause I don’t own it). Much like I did with the passing cone… that p.o.s. went bye-bye after 5 minutes of play.
by Ochophosphate on Aug 22, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
I like how the computer puts more emphasis on how hard you throw the ball and whether your QB sets his feet. This year I can’t just tap the button and my QB throws a 60 yard bomb over the DB and hits a receiver in stride.
The huge downside, though, is that passes to running backs in the flat are completely f^#(ing broken. The running back always runs out of bounds for a loss if the DBs aren’t covering him (and if the DBs are covering he takes a 5-10 yard loss each time). At least they’ve improved passes over the middle of the field a bit, though.
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running out
I noticed that a couple time the computer has done that when they could have easily gotten a first down. It is really hard to beat the DB’s at all. Lots of crossing patterns.
Yeah
The pass to the running back results in positive yardage maybe 20% of the time for the computer (and maybe 5% for a first down). So far I don’t think I’ve had a pass to the RB yet where I’ve gotten positive yardage. I’ve tried lobbing the ball to the RB and throwing bullets at him and every time he either gets nailed by a defender or runs straight out of bounds because of momentum. Sad thing is, that pass to the RB works great on NCAA 09…wish I could use it for the pro game. They definitely need to address that with a patch, but at least it’s not a game killing glitch like last year’s franchise bug.
For beating the DBs, I run a lot of crossing patterns too, and hook routes. It’s tough to complete stuff deep. But that’s probably fair too…a QB shouldn’t be able to throw 60 yard bombs on a regular basis.
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Actually (2)
I actually appreciate it. That’s what I get for reading and rushing to post while working. I’d rather be corrected than be inaccurate and you’ve just made me better!! Thanks!
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