My lengthy thoughts on the Cards game.
Props to DJ for his great post, I just wanted to add a lengthier biopsy on what exactly happened.
We were outplayed. But we did it while creating plays, while moving the ball, while attacking the other team, and while bouncing back from taking our lumps. Tyler Thigpen threw a pick-six in the last three minutes of the game. What did he do after that when he got the ball back? Roll over and die? Hand it off to the RB to run out the clock?
No, the kid threw a touchdown.
This is a rebuilding team, and this is the pattern we're going to see all year. There are going to be moments, even entire games, where this team can make anything happen. Croyle will go 20-32, 200+ yards with a couple TDs. Our OL will open holes. Our defense will get to the QB. Our safeties will be hell on earth. Our kickers will hit their kicks. Our returners will nail their returns. Our playcalling will click.
And then... there are going to be moments, even entire games, where this team will spin its wheels and nothing will come of it. Croyle will go 7-31, 85 yards, 0 TDs and 3 INTs. Our OL will get dominated and penalized. The opposing QB will have a clean jersey by the final whistle. We'll fumble hand-offs and fumble for no reason. Our secondary will get picked apart. Our playcalling will continue to run LJ into brick walls.
It just so happened that yesterday, this team did a little bit of both. More after the jump.

Offense
The #1 biggest problem for the Chiefs yesterday was that we just couldn't punch it in. Five different times we weasiled our way into their red zone; thanks mostly to LJ in the first half, and mostly to Thiggy in the second. But once we sniffed that endzone paint, we couldn't find a way to get past the defense until, of course, the final minute.
Some of that was our playcalling. Gailey called a solid game in the second half, but his offensive scheme in the first was too conservative. I know that's an odd complaint to make when we actually had a running back take a snap, but our plays only asked Croyle to look downfield a handful of times for the entire half. Herm admitted afterward they wanted to run the ball. For the most part, they succeeded, but they did it to the detriment of Croyle, whose few downfield throws were off; he almost looked rusty.
I think the most maddening playcall of the first half was that 3rd-and-goal from the 16. Gailey called for LJ to run up the gut, something that I'm not even sure Solari would have called. Setting up our kicker for a 30-yarder isn't going to tell us anything about our offense, our kicker, or our young quarterback of the future. Worst playcall of the preseason.
Yes, Croyle was unimpressive. It's going to happen. But he was not helped by Gailey's hand-cuffing playbook. I believe that a young QB in the NFL should be treated like a shooter in the NBA: when they're off, you keep feeding them opportunities to get back in. Our gameplan showed no confidence in Croyle. But his poor performance is something that we needed to see; it not only prepares us for sequels throughout the season, it will show us how he bounces back next week.
Thigpen gets unfairly derided, I believe. First of all, and I'll get to this in a minute, but when Thiggy was on the field, he was protected by a leaky line (to say the least). This put Thiggy into Casey Printers mode for a while, scrambling after 2.5 seconds of scanning. But Thiggy also did what Printers couldn't do: delivered when he stayed in the pocket.
Thiggy's going to need another year before we see what he's made of. The kid came from Coastal Carolina, for crying out loud. The calls for his head are premature, but it is crucial that the Chiefs continue to give him more and more snaps during games. The more snaps he gets, the faster he'll mature. Thigpen has the tools, he's mentally tough, he's athletic, and he can be accurate. But he's young, and he'll over- and under-throw receivers and stare-down his targets until he learns otherwise on the field.
Our RBs, however, have nothing to fear. Two-Sev looked fantastic. There's not much to say there. I was a little nervous when Kolby Smith's first couple touches were iffy, but they just proved to be rust-shakers. Smith looked solid for the rest of the game. Smith has a quality of simply "wanting it more," and it shows when he gets any wiggle room whatsoever.
Speaking of wanting it more, who is this Dantrell Savage kid? Not only is he the best returner we have on our team (I'm on board to cut Sams), he has the biggest heart. Savage runs with his hair on fire, and for that I believe this team simply has to make room for him on the final roster, or get fair value for him in a preseason trade. You don't let a guy like this walk for nothing.
Our first-string offensive line once again was only given a few plays to protect Croyle, as Gailey's playcalling featured lots of misdirection and rollouts. Herb Taylor once again kept Brodie clean on the blind side (!!!). Our other sixth-rounder, Barry Richardson, got embarrassed for a sack in the second half, but was sturdy on run-blocking. I've said this before, but Barry may have a future on the inside of this line, and Herb might have a future at RT.
And my goodness, what kind of lunch did Adrian Jones and Damion McIntosh have yesterday? These two were human wrecking balls for the Arizona defensive line. Jones and McIntosh kept the strong-side clean for Brodie, and their run-blocking was devastating and fantastic. It's really hard to tell what to make of these two, but if nothing else, we've seen the potential they bring for this season.
Our wide recievers were unable to show much of anything until the second half, when Gailey called for more downfield plays. The first half was nothing but limited opportunities for the WRs, and they mostly flubbed them. I don't know if Croyle and Darling's lack of connection is more Darling's fault or Croyle's but it can't bode well for Darling's chances at #2. As of now, they have a lot of work to do for DVD. Bowe didn't have much to do either, and his one highlight was when he hopped around like a moron instead of blocking for LJ. Bowe needs to put down Samie Parker's Rules To Live By, because they're not helping.
By the second half, the second-string receivers showed us what they're worth. Maurice Price has all but made this team, as his speed and his route-running has just given back-up corners too much to handle these two games so far. Don't be surprised if Price makes a run at the #2 job in the next couple games. He has so far looked great. Kevin McMahan and Jabari Arthur once again gave us sure hands, making the most of their limited opportunities. And the lanky Sergiori Joachim, the last WR on our depth chart, listed at 6'5" but the kid looks 6'7" or taller, was the stud of the night by hauling in a Thigpen touchdown pass in the game's final minute.
Defense
I have been worried all week that the team's biggest achilles heel would be at a total lack of passrush. However, with the right line-ups and the right playcalls, the Chiefs proved they can get to the quarterback. This defense's biggest problem right now is linebacker play. Outside of DJ and Demorrio Williams, there's not a Chiefs LB on yesterday's field that can consistently shoot the right gaps or play a lick of pass coverage. Pat Thomas continues to earn very inconsistent reviews, as he is usually in good position but always under-delivers on playmaking.
Our playmaking on defense as a whole is improving, though. Several times throughout the game the Chiefs got both palms on Kurt Warner's and Matt Leinart's passes. They're hungry and it shows. But they have to not only create these opportunities, they have to start converting them. Right now the only players who could convert yesterday were Flowers at CB and Turk McBride at DE.
Speaking of Turk, Batman at ArrowheadAddict.com was vindicated for at least one glorious first-half yesterday, putting my initial fears of Turk to rest. Turk was a beast coming off the left side, getting his hands up in QB's faces, bullrushing, beating OT Levi Brown around the edge, and overall displaying a great motor. Turk is still struggling to find a place on this team, but he came a long way yesterday at strong-side DE. His combination of strength and speed are undeniable; now it's just about execution.
Our DTs looked solid, not great. There was some push, but nothing to write home about. I'm happier that they weren't eaten up on run-plays. Dorsey actually came in for a couple plays to my surprise, and wasn't budged an inch on a run directed right at him. He was, however, shut out on the next pass play when he was virtually triple-teamed.
Tamba Hali continues to underperform. He's turned in two disappointing efforts in two preseason games so far. I can't tell exactly what his problem is, or if that nose of his is bothering him, or if he's simply suited better for LDE. But at this point, if this is any indication of the season to come, we're going to have to send blitzes if we want to get a rush on the blindside. Fortunately we have the best blitzing LB on our team on that side. Kudos, by the way, to the reserve DL, who didn't get obliterated this time around.
The second-half collapse was due more to LB than DL. In the first half, we surrendered less than 100 yards. That's a great half, but unfortunately Leinart came in and lit up our linebackers who showed little-to-none coverage ability. In the Cover 2, you must have LBs who can mark up. At this point, I don't know where that depth is going to come from. Virtually none of the second-string LBs looked solid.
Our secondary was also beat a few times, but we expected that. The main question was going to be how would they rebound from getting beat? The results were great, I thought. Both draft picks looked great at CB. Carr almost picked off an errant Kurt Warner pass, and Flowers made that brilliant play on Fitzgerald at the beginning of the game. Patterson even got in on the action, which confirms to me that Patterson may be short on talent, but he is chock-full of heart.
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One mistake we can make
Is viewing preseason games as an entirety instead of paying close attention to what the starters do and then looking for standout individual performances when the 2nd stringers come in.
Let’s face it, unless there is a plane crash, we are never going to see Richardson, Wade Smith, Tre Stallings and WilL Svitek manning the offensive line.
Our starting defense kept a high powered offense mostly in check, allowing one good drive and forcing several three and outs against he Cardinals starting offense. Our starting offense drove the ball, protected the QB and ran down the throat of an impressive Cardinals run defense.
What happened in the second half is mostly meaningless because we will never see all those 2nd and 3rd stringers on the field at the same time again. We were looking for standout performances. The final score really doesn’t matter. The score that you really look at is tied 6-6 at halftime when the starters went out.
by ChiefDJ on
Aug 17, 2008 3:14 PM CDT
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Don't count out Richardson.
I think Stallings and Svitek are going to get cut, but Richardson has a lot of promise. The guy is a great runblocker and he came into the league with 1st-day measurables. I think he can do a lot for this team in the long-run.
by Direckshun on
Aug 17, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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Richardson
Richardson will make the team no doubt. Im just saying you are never going ot see that combination on the line at the same time after the regular season starts. Richardson will have to do a lot of improving to get in with the starters, he is still pretty far behind.
by ChiefDJ on
Aug 17, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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Gotcha.
Misunderstanding there.
What do you think about Richardson to RG?
by Direckshun on
Aug 17, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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Maurcie Price
They’re going to have a tough time making a reason not to put Price on the squad. They need to give him some time with the 1st stringers.
Whats really bad is we also have Dantrelle Savage. Both of these guys deserve a spot on the roster, but they are at positions where there are a number of players doing very well.
by ChiefDJ on
Aug 17, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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Price has GOT to be a shoo-in...
He’s been the 2nd or 3rd best WR for us both games.
At this point it might actually be Price v. Franklin for the #2.
by Direckshun on
Aug 17, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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One Reserve LB Had His Moments
Steve Octavien. He was one of the few who was executing his tackles and didn’t seem to be out of position too often.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Aug 17, 2008 3:33 PM CDT
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+1
He was the only backup LB that really stood out to me at all…
by KCFanatic on
Aug 17, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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Octavien wrapped up well
From the little I remember seeing him.
by sunny D on
Aug 17, 2008 9:55 PM CDT
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He stopped a play
in the backfield after taking on the block of the pulling guard
by PVChiefsfan on
Aug 18, 2008 8:44 AM CDT
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Like I've Said
Assuming his injury issues don’t follow him into the NFL I think he could be a very good player for our team. Maybe not a starter, but definitely someone worth a roster spot. Can’t say as anyone else among our backup LBs has impressed me that much.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Aug 18, 2008 11:16 AM CDT
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One explaination for the play-calling...
might be Edwards’ comments earlier this week about getting more field goal opportunities. When asked about the kicker battle he said that they were going to give them a lot more opportunities to kick some field goals this week. That might have had something to do with having LJ rush up the middle on 3rd and goal.
by JayrodT on
Aug 17, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
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It just doesn't make any sense to me.
How on earth is giving a kicker a 30-yarder with zero angle whatsoever supposed to “test” him?
by Direckshun on
Aug 17, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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If he misses it
he’s in trouble. YOu want to know they can make the easy ones as well as the hard ones.
by ChiefDJ on
Aug 17, 2008 8:44 PM CDT
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I'd just cut out the middle man and give them a hard one.
If he’s missing that then it doesn’t matter how he does on the easy ones.
by Direckshun on
Aug 18, 2008 9:59 AM CDT
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As a person who thought preseason wins were important
After the win against da Bears, I don’t feel badly about the loss to the Cardinals. I do think they did some things — perhaps the goal-to-go play up the middle from the 16 — and some of the 1st and 2nd down rushes in order to evaluate the players. So the fact that we kicked a bunch (5?) of field goals was good, I thought. Okay…seven TDs would have made me feel even better. But I felt mostly positive after the game. I really do want to grab one more win from the last two games, though.
by sunny D on
Aug 17, 2008 9:54 PM CDT
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I think the playcalling was directly a result of what they wanted to see
What we saw Gailey do once they were in field goal range this game was much different than what he did against the Bears. During the regular season, once we are in FG range, are we really doing to run two vanilla running plays and a screen pass? I kind of doubt it. But I think at this point in the preseason they were needing to see the FG Kickers so they weren’t trying to be real creative about making sure they got the touchdown.
by ChiefDJ on
Aug 18, 2008 6:48 AM CDT
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Agreed
Consciously or unconsciously, they were interested in field goal attempts this game. I’m not saying they intentionally stalled the drive, but almost. 1. As you said, I think the playcalling in that area will be a little different in the regular season. A slant to Franklin or looking for Gonzales/Cottam will be in the mix. 2. When the offense knows they want to get into field goal range and it’s discussed before the game, there has to be a little voice in the their head that says, “It’s okay if we don’t get a first down here because we’d at least get to try a field goal, which is part of what we want to do, right?”
by sunny D on
Aug 18, 2008 8:50 AM CDT
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No long passes
After the first game, Herm made a comment that made me think the coaches were nervous about exposing Croyle to any hits — especially in the preseason. Long passes require longer blocks by the o-line. I think that’s the biggest reason we didn’t see Brodie throw the ball deep. The one out-and-up by Darling would have gone for a TD if they had connected. Also, when the number of receivers gets cut down, Croyle will have more time to practice with fewer receivers and improve the timing. It’s a work in progress.
by sunny D on
Aug 18, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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I can’t accept this reasoning, whether or not the Chiefs followed it.
We have kickers to compete, but we also have WRs to evaluate, a young QB looking for valuable opportunities, and red zone playcalling to examine. What works? What doesn’t work?
When you throw in the towel (and needlessly run your BEST PLAYER into a brick wall) so you can test out a kicker from 30-yards out… what the heck?
by Direckshun on
Aug 18, 2008 10:02 AM CDT
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Not GOOD reasoning
To be clear, I am not in favor of a preseason strategy that attempts to get your field goal kickers more attempts. By defintion, it means your drive has stalled. Well…unless they are REALLY serious about giving them attempts and try a field goal on first down as soon as they’re in range. :) It’s one of those psychological things. Subliminal text in the players’ minds. For example, always say something like hang on to the football instead of don’t fumble. If I tell a person to not think about elephants, how can elephant not enter the person’s head? When the coach talks about wanting to get some field goal attempts before the game, the offense (coordinator and players) get a subconscious mental goal of setting up for a field goal.
Talk about executing plays, making first downs (and not necessarily take 3 plays to do it, btw! — another subliminal thing) and scoring touchdowns. Field goals are a consolation prize.
by sunny D on
Aug 18, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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Vindication...
Duh-duh, duh-duh, duh-duh. duh-duh, Sackman! Go Turk…
Enjoyed the breakdown. I especially agree with Tamba. Step it up, son!
by arrowheadaddict on
Aug 18, 2008 10:15 AM CDT
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Who would have ever thought...
That Turk could possibly be the Chiefs’ breakout player of the year???
by sunny D on
Aug 18, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
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I Thought He Might Be
But I didn’t know for certain, of course. Defensive ends sometimes take a year to adjust to playing against NFL linemen. Neil Smith was not overwhelming his rookie year and people started calling “bust” only to see him do well from his second year on. Mario Williams was a punchline because he was taken over Reggie Bush, but now he’s well on his way to being a dominant defensive player (while Bush is becoming a complementary back) and the Texans don’t look foolish at all.
Whitlock was speaking prematurely to call Turk a bust just because he didn’t shine his rookie year. Now if he’s not establishing himself as a starter (or at least an important reserve) by this year or next, the “bust” label would probably be fair. But so far so good this season.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on
Aug 18, 2008 11:13 AM CDT
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I think he grabbed that LDE spot
and he’ll be damned if he is going to let it go now…good for him.
by PVChiefsfan on
Aug 18, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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