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The Most Intriguing Match Ups: Week 1

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One of our many series that may or may not finish, I'll be taking a look at what I think to be the most interesting individual match ups next season. First up in Week 1, the New England Patriots.

With a new starting cornerback, a second year player in the nickel spot and two safeties with combined experience of four years, the easy answer this week is say watch the Kansas City Chiefs secondary compete against the record setting, All World, yada yada yada New England Patriots offense. I'll admit if the Chiefs are able to at least feign containment on Brady and Moss in Week 1, I'll be impressed. And I do that that would at least vaguely point to developing talent in our secondary if they performed well against the best. But if the Pats destroy the Chiefs secondary, then what will we say? That's what we expected?

That's why I'm going to tell you to watch the Chiefs' Jared Allen-less defensive line against the Patriots' foundation, their offensive line.

Right at the beginning of the season, the Chiefs will have a difficult test to gauge how far (or how steady) the team's 2007 strength has fallen. The Patriots offensive line, while a fantastic unit, is more dependent on the influence of Brady and Moss in that offense than the actual skills of their entire line. For example, only left tackle Matt Light and center Dan Koppen were cemented in their positions last year, with the guards and other tackle able to interchange quickly.

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So, if the Chiefs are able to develop a successful pass rush during the game on September 7th, we'll know we have something to build upon.

Frankly, it's time for Tamba Hali to either become a pass rushing force or relegate himself to the "Also played" category of NFL players who had a couple of decent seasons. We will see in Week 1 if Hali is a player on his own or if he needed those dozen or so sacks by Allen the last two seasons to skate under the Chiefs' radar.

The same goes for the defensive tackles in Week 1. Glenn Dorsey gets a big time NFL test in his first game and we hope, we hope to see progress from Tank Tyler or Turk McBride, or both.

In other words, the Chiefs will get to see how immediate of an impact their '07 and '08 draft picks will have.

I know this is a lot of hot, hypothetical air over a game the Kansas City Chiefs will likely get whooped up so bad in that we won't be able to glean any lessons from it. But you see where I'm going with these? As this team changes and grows, what will be revealed to us this season about our current condition? We may lose, but what are we learning? Who can't cut it anymore? Or never could?

Because if you're not a Chiefs fan who is thinking in terms of two to three years down the road, you're setting yourself up for angry disappointment.

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Oh yeah

I’m most likely going to be disappointed with the outcome of this game, but I’m still holding onto the chance that our defense is going to explode and not give Brady a fair chance to throw the ball.
I’ve been a big fan of Hali since he joined the team, so I’m really hoping he makes a huge impact on this game, especially with Allen’s absence.
So my dream for this game is a 13-9 win.

But I’m the same guy who wore his jersey to work every Friday deep into the losing streak last year.

by Mully on Jul 14, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Dream

I know we’re going to lose. Badly.

But that’s the best thing about this time of year, and about football. We can imagine winning, and it’s not that hard. An uncharacteristic bad day by Brady, an emotional lift from the rookies, DJ taking charge, and LJ running like he’d like to educate those that have written him about a thing or two.

I want to see the young safeties smack somebody. You want to score 40 on us? You can probably do that. But you’re going to feel every single inch of it tomorrow.

I’m as big of a Vermeil defendant as anyone, but man, it feels good to at least have a team that will smack someone again. We may go 2-14, but we’re going to hit someone.

by Ridiculous Matt on Jul 14, 2008 9:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I think our defense is just starting to move to that “hit someone” mentality that had so many offenses almost afraid to play us in the 1990’s – a strong pass rush, swift LB’s, and corners and safeties that could knock you out of your jock on a crossing route.

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 14, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the 1st quarter is important.

If the Pats come out and put it on us then the young players could fold, but if we can escape the 1st quarter within 7 points, then it may give these guys more confidence to think they can keep it up. My prediction as of July 14 2008: FLowers runs a pick back for a TD on the 3rd play of the game, Brady throws 2 more, and Croyle throws none, Chiefs still lose 20-16.

by JasonM on Jul 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

that the last time we beat the Patriots was a game at Arrowhead when Brady threw 3 picks, all to Wesley. if Brady throws 3 interceptions and we still lose, I will be heartbroken. When the turnover ratio is 3-0 in your favor and you still lose, something weird happened.

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 14, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it possible to have a letdown game in week one?

Belichick is such a focused, you-guys-are-never-good enough coach, that I can’t imagine the Patriots coming into the game with the Chiefs taking a win for granted. Especially since their last game was a stinging loss that cost them a perfect season and a ring. Plus, unlike Herm, they don’t come into a game trying to win by 3 points, but rather plan and expect to win by 30. But since I imagine the spread on the game will be Grand Canyonesque, could a Flowers hit and Page INT for a TD fire up the Chiefs to do the unimaginable?

Ahh…hope, and the beauty of upsets every week in the NFL. I’ll have a lot more hope if we win a couple pre-season games this year. Say what you want about vanilla plays and player evaluation… The four pre-season losses were more of a precursor than we wanted to believe.

Good idea, Chris, to watch the D-line. Our O-line will be the other area that will really interest me. Can the 5 (...or 6 …or 7) guys we put up front create any holes and at least stop the tackles for a loss on our running plays?

by sunny D on Jul 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to watch the preseason games!

Do you think they might leave the starting O-line in the game for a few more series this season? Maybe let them play the 1st quarter in the first game, rather than 1 or 2 series. When was the starting O line posted anyway? I saw a fanshot saying that A Jones was the starting RG, I’m still hoping the UDFA from Clemson(McDuffie I think) can take that spot.

Who thinks that the spread in this game will be more than 17 points?

by JasonM on Jul 14, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shift in preseason philosphy?

Overall, I am very glad to have Herm Edwards as a head coach. And since I knocked him in the first comment in this string, let me give him kudos for what I perceive to be a slight change this year. Last year, I think Herm got caught now wanting to appear Croyle had an edge over Green because of Green’s whining that the QB job was slanted toward youth. That carried over into the decision with Huard and people setting on the sidelines with an abacuss to know if one QB had gotten Gatorade served to him one more time than the other guy. So Herm took the whole competition thing too far at all positions his first two years, imo. I was advocating earlier personnel decisions so that part of the preseason could be used to help the Week 1 starters gel and be better prepared.

I’m still not sure this announced 2008 “starting” o-line group is official, but between Croyle being named the starter, and at least a tentative starting offensive line named, and my feeling that the first-string defense will be essentially be in place early, I am much happier that the preseason balance between evaluating talent and preparing the group to play together on Week 1 will tilt more toward preparation to play this year.

Perhaps due to Herm obviously knowing the returning team members better than the first year or two. Probably because Herm has earned his “fairness” badge by now and doesn’t have to prove it. And perhaps due to a desire to avoid total emabarassment on the trip to Foxboro to start the season. Let’s hope that on-time contracts and good health during the preseason will add to our readiness to play on Week 1.

And so yes, Jason, I agree that we are likely to see our starters out there longer this preseason.

by sunny D on Jul 14, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2008 Is A Learning Season

Once we accept that we’ll be able to actually enjoy the season no matter where we end up.

And of course there’s always fantasy football to keep me sane if the season gets abominally ugly. Of course I doubt that this year’s team will be less watchable than last year’s so I think I’ll enjoy the Chiefs’ real-life season just fine.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Jul 14, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

“Once we accept that we’ll be able to actually enjoy the season no matter where we end up.”

That’s going to be the key to enjoying this year and it was the key last year until we got too horrible.

Accept it now – no playoffs in 2008.

Serenity now!

by Chris Thorman on Jul 14, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last Year Was Just Ugly All Around

The Chiefs were an old, unwatchable team, the offense was completely incompetent, and the front office didn’t seem to have a clue how to fix things. Fortunately things seemed to swing their way this offseason and we’ve got some promising young players so there’s hope for the future. Last year there wasn’t a lot of hope for improvement.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Jul 14, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Role of Hope

Kinda strange how a team might have the same 4-12 record, but if it’s in the context of making improvements and growing, it’s a lot easier to endure than seeing players hanging on and falling apart.

by sunny D on Jul 14, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Kidding

When you’ve got young players making mistakes you know they might get better. When you’ve got old players who just can’t cut it, you know that there’s nowhere to go but down.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Jul 14, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

I’m starting out with Marshawn Lynch and Steven Jackson to build my fantasy football team around this year, so my championship hopes are bright this season even if Kansas City’s are a couple of years off.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Jul 14, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only joy

the only expectations I am going into this season with is that our rookies get better and they dont all get injured. I want to see albert become a good left tackle that, going into the 2009 season will be a solid LT. I want to see Page, Morgan, Carr, Flowers, become a young secondary that is on the rise and a forseeable strength for the future. I want to see the D-line kind of manage this year with potential for the next year. I think with a first round DE next year the D-line could be dangerous. On offense I hope to see the sacks per pass out of the bottom ten. and I want to see our rushing yards average more than 78 a game….... I wan tthis to start looking like a team with tangibles and something to build on. I want to be back in the playoffs in 2009!

by loyalchief on Jul 14, 2008 11:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome!

I think you’re right on…we can be talking playoffs in 2009 with another even decent draft.

by Chris Thorman on Jul 14, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if...

our quarterback position plays decent. Teams with poor quarterback play do not make the playoffs. Croyle is the pivotal part of us talking playoffs. I believe that we will have enough of “Herm’s Guys” at the other positions to be competiive by ‘09. I really like how we have tried to build the defense first, and then we will get what we can out of the offense. I think the Patriots were built with a similiar strategy. They have had a dominant defense for years, but the offense keeps adapting to what they have in personnel and coaches. Give Chan 2 years and these guys should be comfortable enough, Brodie willing, to score some points! I agree that ‘08 is the steepest learning year for this team. If we can keep it together and play hard all year we will have an idea of what we can become.

by TheQ on Jul 14, 2008 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Correction

teams with poor QB play don’t win in the playoffs…I believe that Manning led the league in INT’s in the regular season, and the Giants still made the playoffs. But if he had continued to throw picks, they would not have won the Super Bowl.

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 15, 2008 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correction To The Correction

teams with poor QB play usually don’t win in the playoffs. It can be overcome, though. But there have been some horrible QBs that made it to the big game.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/your_turn/news/2001/01/18/reactions_worstsbqb/

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Jul 15, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One advantage of youth

is that sometimes they don’t know when they’re overmatched. I always think of the movie “For the Love of the Game” where Kevin Costner is an aging pitcher and towards the end, is pitching a Perfect Game. For the opponents last at bat, does the manager send out the gnarled veteran who’s seen everything? No, that guy is in awe of the history he might be watching. Instead, the manager sends out the cocky young guy and tells him to “wreck it”. The young guy has no respect, he’s hungry and wants to prove that he can take out the best of the best.

I’m hoping all these young guys we’ve got on the team will be like that guy. Rather than standing back in awe of the team that went 16-0 last season, I’m hoping they will be hungry to prove they belong in the NFL against the best.

In the end, it probably won’t matter. Talent and experience wise, the Chiefs are clearly overmatched against the Pats. But if they can keep it close and make a game out of it, that will be something positive they can take against the teams the next several weeks that are more at our level: Raiders, Falcons, Broncos. All very winable games.

by ChiefDJ on Jul 14, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could happen

How much respect do you think teams will give Dorsey out of the chute? Do you think teams will game plan to double team him, even though he hasn’t played a down in the NFL? I s’pose they’ll watch the preseason tapes to decide.

by sunny D on Jul 14, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they will

Because who else will they double team?

by Joel Thorman on Jul 14, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hali?

But point well taken.
We really need Tank or Turk or Boone or someone else to step up this year, don’t we?

by sunny D on Jul 15, 2008 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bears match-up

Chris, I understand the focus on games that count for something (Patriots). I’d also love to see you do something similar to this for the preseason game with the Bears as it approaches. With so many young players, I’d love a discussion that will help the focus on things to watch during the preseason test for our young guys. The combined analysis of all the people on this site is an awesome way to get information that makes the games more fun to watch. I’m sure you’ve already got it in the works, but wanted to endorse your approach.

by sunny D on Jul 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great idea

I wasn’t thinking about the preseason games much.

by Chris Thorman on Jul 15, 2008 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Usually, I don't either

And I’m sure when we get to the week before the game, it will be a natural point of discussion.
Keep up the great work!

by sunny D on Jul 15, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by GabriellaWardwbgik on Jul 18, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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