A Few Updates from Herm Edwards

by Chris on Jun 12, 2008 7:32 AM CDT in 2008 Off Season

Branden Albert's ankle sounds like it's going to be okay and that Albert is almost guaranteed to be our starting left tackle this year.

"Still sore. If we had to play he could play. There are certain guys who probably could play if we had a game but we’re going to be careful now. He’s shown us enough that he can play tackle for us."

After today's practice in St. Joe, MO, the team will be "off" until late July. The rookies will stick around for a bit after today though.

"They’ll continue to condition. The coaches won’t be around. [Strength and Conditioning coach] Cedric [Smith] will have them. They’ll do all that and they have to go [visit] the [Pro Football] Hall of Fame. They’ll have the weights. We have some other things planned for them."

Does anyone else get the feeling that Damon Huard will be on this team forever? For-ever.

"You need a guy who can go in who, if something should happen, can manage the game. It was tough on him last year and we were OK early. Then we couldn’t run the ball and struggled some. If you can’t run the ball it makes it tough on any quarterback."

Come on KC Media. You know Herm doesn't take kindly to the expression that the Kansas City Chiefs "squeaked" into the playoffs in 2006.

"If you look at us when we got in the playoffs, in my opinion, you knew what kind of team you had. You knew what these guys accomplished to get in. We squeaked in but we won enough games at the end. We won the last game that we needed to win."

Hermism alert!

"We’ve got a young crop of players who are very good and in two drafts prior to that two crops who are good. You’re talking about going from one of the oldest teams to one of the youngest teams in football. That’s good for us and I think the fans will enjoy watching this team play."

It seems like everything he says nowadays could be considered a Hermism. Or I'm going crazy. One of the two.

Finally, Herm leaves us with a rather shaky statement about getting the Chiefs draft picks signed and in training camp on time.

"They have to make the decision. Their agents do the negotiations but they have to understand that at the end of the day I play football and I’ve got to make sure he gets it done. I’m pretty sure they’ll get there."

Oddly enough, as the Chiefs practice for the final time before training camp, we'll be ramping up our posts here at AP. This is the most boring time for Chiefs news and NFL news in general so we're going to flip the script and do our best to make the next 57 days as interesting as possible. I can't promise excitement - that comes with exciting news - but I can promise interesting discussion. And that's where you come in just as much as me.

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I'm a little confused...

Herm’s direct quote from his interview is:
“[Dorsey’s] getting better and starting to understand really what we want him to do. He’s got to get off on the ball and penetrate. He’s got to be a penetrator for us. In college he was a two-gapper at the line of scrimmage and kind of read whether it was run or pass. There isn’t a lot of reading here for our defensive linemen.”

And here is what Kent Babb says in his article:
"He’s been good. He’s getting better," Edwards says. "He’s starting to understand, really, what we want him to do." That’s stop the run and forget about sacks. If he gets to the quarterback, then yes, take him down. But Dorsey’s preliminary education has centered on reacting instead of reading; learning to focus on the run and mastering how to stuff it. block>

I know that penetration (what Herm is quoted as saying) can disrupt a running play if the back has to make a cut before he’s ready, but I don’t equate “penetrate” with “stuff the run” as much as I think of it as just general disruption (which is just as likely to result in a sack or check-down as it is a run-stopping play…am I just wrong here?). When I think of stuff the run, I think of tying up blocker(s) and filling gaps. Am I just confusing myself over terminology, or is the article selectively editing the quote and then making a point that isn’t quite correct w/ Herm’s next 2 sentences after the quote stops?

I hate to flog a dead horse w/ the star, but man, unless I’m missing something I think that’s taking journalistic license a bit far…

ps:can somebody post again about how you put text/quotes in the block format? it had something to do with

by thehulk on Jun 12, 2008 8:32 AM CDT 0 recs

actually, i'll just experiment for a bit, and see what works

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by thehulk on Jun 12, 2008 8:34 AM CDT up 0 recs

dang!

stupid internets….can’t believe its still hanging around…

although, i do find it interesting that some of the “block”s that i typed didn’t show up, so i guess i’m on the right track, except i’m trying to format, not trying to make stuff disappear. post-failed-attempt i’ll just wait till one of the more internet-savvy can instruct.

by thehulk on Jun 12, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up 0 recs

Block quotes

Just use one of those six icons in the gray area right above the area you’re entering your text.

Highlight what you want to go into the box, and then click on the fourth icon—the blue quote sign.

That’s always worked for me. The “link” tool, however, doesn’t work for me when I reply to someone, but works well when I make the initial fanpost. I like the fact you experimented with another comment. I imagine that’s how all of us get better at this.

by sunny D on Jun 12, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up 0 recs

wow

amazing how you can see something 87 times and not actually SEE it for what it’s for.

thanks for the help.

by thehulk on Jun 12, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up 0 recs

welcome

best wishes with the release of your new movie today.

by sunny D on Jun 13, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Way to throw out the challenge flag!

I agree that when I read the interview, I was under the impression that Dorsey and all the members of the line would be viewed as pass rushers to some degree. I’m sure that stopping the run is the first priority, but penetration and disruption are also the name of the game. I’m thinking that the coaching staff has a resonable expectation that Dorsey will get about 4-6 sacks this season, and that the DT position will be expected to get QB pressure. I agree that Babb’s position doesn’t seem to line up exactly with my impressions.

by sunny D on Jun 12, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

exactly what i was thinking.

i felt like he was telling a partial truth, so yea, he’s telling the truth, but he was also ignoring a large chunk of what Herm was actually saying.

what pissed me off about it, and why i brought it up, is that it literally was the next 2 sentences after babb stopped his quote, its not like it was a separate day or interview (which he should be on top of anyway, if his job is to be a sports columnist).

i’m starting to see some parallels between the chiefs and polits: if you want facts, you have to go to original sources and actual quotes, you can’t trust ANYONE to not put their own agenda in and twist articles to make them align w/ what that person thinks.

by thehulk on Jun 12, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up 0 recs

Note

that the part Herm says in quotes is: “He’s starting to understand, really, what we want him to do”

THEN the stupid KC Star Reporter editorializes when he says: “That’s stop the run and forget about sacks”

I swear the Star Reporters love to interject their own opinions instead of just reporting the stupid story. Adam Teicher is STILL pretending (mentioned it in two articles last week) that DeMarrio Williams was brought in so Donnie Edwards could replace Harris at MLB, even though Herm and several Chiefs officials have said that is not and has never been the plan.

You have to pay close attention. Herm said Dorsey is learning what they want him to do (which is exactly what all 3 tech DTs in the Cover 2 do, penetrate and pressure the passer) and the reporter Babb decided that he though Dorsey should be a run stuffer.

by ChiefDJ on Jun 12, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

I wonder...

If Herm just grins when he reads this stuff. He’s intentionally vague with the media (see Hermisms) so as not to give too much intel to other teams.

Not only does he accomplish his goal, but the Star reporters are so desperate for news that they create misinformation for him and everybody is confused!

TOUCHDOWN! KAN-SAH-CITY!!!

by TheScootness on Jun 12, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

Shhhhhhhh...

Memo to Your Scootness:

Remember when you became a member of the AP site that you swore you’d never reveal the fact that the entire Star reporting department is a secret division of the Chiefs intelligence office designed to confuse the opposition. Your comments threaten to expose the undercover unit know as C.H.A.O.S. (Chiefs and Herm Actually Opposite of the Star) that routinely disseminates misleading statements and absurd scenarios. What began as simply a way to mess with Al Davis has become a strategic advantage over the competition. Roger Goodell has already confiscated Whitlock’s left shoe, hoping the numbers in the secret phone will lead to answers. So…caution, my friend.

by sunny D on Jun 13, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

3-technique

is what Dorsey is being set up to play on our line. In that position, just off tackle, his purpose is to penetrate and disrupt the backfield. His job is to get to the QB behind the line.

I think Babb threw his own misinterpretation of Cover-2 in there and just started spouting. Everything I’ve heard and read said that Dorseys’ job is to penetrate not plug.

by Halfbreed5050 on Jun 12, 2008 9:16 AM CDT 0 recs

For the dead period...

... I’ll keep suggesting that we have some sort of KC Chiefs Cheerleader of the week, or some sort of playoff of the best cheerleader, or something else horribly stereotypical and mysoginistic that will ruffle a few feathers…

by mikvogel on Jun 12, 2008 9:58 AM CDT 0 recs