Confidence in Croyle

as of now. The guy I like alot is Cullen Harper, he could be had in the 2nd round possibly. This is all speculation of course, they still have to play the 2008 season.

I’d point out to you and Chris that ole’ Brady is completely unproven in the NFL despite the perpetual espn HJ he’s received/ing.

I wasn’t disputing that…that’s why I said potential to be a productive QB. If he were a guy warming the bench for three or four years and couldn’t take a starting spot away from 2007 Derek Anderson, I probably wouldn’t care about the guy because it would be indicative that he’s not that great. However, he was only a rookie QB last year (one that we would have considered drafting if the Browns hadn’t moved up), he would appear to be a better prospect than anyone coming out of college next year, and Brodie Croyle hasn’t shown that he’s the QB of the future so he’s probably worth the gamble. Right now we’re just rolling the dice on Croyle, and frankly he hasn’t produced enough at either the college or pro level to merit risking everything on him.

I’m not even going to address how your feelings on South Bend and the aforementioned bloggers’ respective education are poorly, poorly misplaced.

I don’t particularly care about Notre Dame. I didn’t go there, I don’t root for them, I think they’re almost always overrated and I think their current coach is kind of a fraud. But they are usually a very good football program and they put a lot of talented players into the NFL…which is why I tend to think Notre Dame players are worth a look. Quinn was a productive QB in college, he was productive playing for a bad coach in a pro-style offense, and his stats from college (and the level of competition he played against) indicate he could make the transition to the NFL and be very good, so I think he’s worth a look. If you don’t agree, that’s your prerogative…but if you want to be taken seriously, make your arguments from a football perspective, not off a bunch of bad gay jokes that you heard.

As Chris will be the first to tell you, KSK by association with Deadspin.com is one of if not THE premeir humorous juveneille NFL blog. I’ll admit the Quinn material may not be their greatest (mostly because of the sheer absurdity of the truth and ridiculous jpeg evidence), but I assure you, check the archives, the Rex "sex cannon" Grossman threads took potty humor to new levels.

If I want to hear potty humor, I’ll pull out my DVDs of “Dumb & Dumber” or “The Upright Citizens Brigade” and watch those…mainly because they’re actually funny. When I come here, I’m more interested in talking about sports. I don’t care about the gossip about players unless it pertains to the game on Sunday, I don’t care who’s sleeping with who or who’s in the closet, or who’s being accused by a blog run by Steelers fans of shouting insults outside a gay bar (which, as far as I can tell, hasn’t been reported anywhere else so it may very well not have happened). As far as I’m concerned that’s irrelevant to the discussion. If that’s what you want to focus on, that’s your prerogative…but you shouldn’t expect it to win you any points with the sports crowd when you trot it out during a serious discussion. Most of it is just off-topic crap that’s got nothing to do with anything.

And yes, I have the same opinion about Deadspin and withleather…they were amusing for about a week, until the jokes got old and I decided that I’d rather go back to talking about sports, which is why I come to blogs like this.

I think he’ll be a good offensive coordinator and it wouldn’t surprise me to see the offensive line improve a little just because they’re not running plays as predictable and simplistic as they were under Solari. Guys like Kyle Turley and Chris Terry were going to suck last year no matter what system you put them in, but it’s tough for anyone to look good when the defense knows pretty much what’s coming. Maybe McIntosh will be a little better under this system (although I’m not holding my breath).

From the beloved wiki – “Croyle started the 2004 season hoping to help his team improve on their last record of 4–9. Croyle started three games, completing 44 of 66 passes for 534 yards with six touchdowns.[1] But during the third game of the season against Western Carolina University, Croyle tore his anterior cruciate ligament in his other knee.6 Croyle was forced to sit out the rest of the season, and the team finished with a 6-6 record.[7]

Undaunted, he fully recovered from the injury in 2005 and started all 12 games as a senior; completing 202 of 339 passes for 2,499 yards with 14 touchdowns and four interceptions and one rushing touchdown. Croyle led the Crimson Tide to a #8 national ranking, a 10–2 record, and a 13–10 victory over Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl, where he earned the game’s Most Valuable Player honors.17[9] In his final season at Alabama, Croyle attempted a school-record 190 passes without an interception and a finalist for the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award as the nation’s most outstanding senior quarterback.[1] He also became the first Alabama quarterback to start every game in a season since 1996.[9]

His 2,499 passing yards in 2005 were the highest single-season total in Alabama’s school history. His total 202 completions and 339 passing attempts rank as the second-best seasonal marks in school annals.[1] His 2,311 yards of total offense were the third-best seasonal mark in the history of the school, and his 1.18 interception percentage was the lowest single-season mark in school history as well.[1]”

he was considered a first round pick until he slid because of his “injury proneness” ,which considering he had one freak injury in HS and one in college, seems a LOT like Flowers sliding because of his speed (say what you want about Talib, Jenkins, and Antonio RC… I think we got the most Pro-ready CB in the entire draft) He got hurt twice last season, but the first injury came on our second offensive play, and he finished the game with bruised ribs…the second injury was the result of Croyle wanting to be more like Trent Green :)