Morning Update (Most Hated Edition)

by Chris on May 13, 2008 7:59 AM CDT in Article Updates

Kansas City Star -- "'I've told people this is the best draft we've had since 1963,' Steadman said."

Dave at Blogging the Boys is "almost convinced that T.O. is a changed person for good."

Another fine installment of Football University at Mile High Report.

Lots of good stuff from Bob Gretz in his latest column -- "Derrick Johnson is on the cusp of becoming one of the NFL’s most complete linebackers."

Anyone else forget that Samie Parker signed with Denver?

I'm not much of a gambler but I know enough to say that these odds aren't good for the Chiefs.

More love for Dwayne Bowe -- "There was room for only one second-year player on this list, and Bowe gets the nod over the Lions’ Calvin Johnson. While Johnson battled back problems and struggled to get going in a pass-oriented, mistake-prone Detroit offense, Bowe started 15 games and starred in Kansas City’s run-oriented, conservative offense."

I'm a bit busy as I tie down the final loose ends at work this week so I'm going to throw out a topic that I read about on a Chiefs' message board - Which former Kansas City Chief can you absolutely not stand? Who do you hate?

The kicker who shall not be named will not be named in this post so choose someone different.

Like many of the posters in that forum said, I'm going to say Elvis Grbac. He spoke at a school event I was at and you could see his smugness as soon as he stepped into the auditorium. Plus, he was a terrible player. That could have something to do with it.

Man, I hate Elvis Grbac!

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Over/Under

I would definitely take the over on the Chiefs. I definitely think 6-8 wins is really reasonable with our schedule. I may try and take this bet….

by EyePod on May 13, 2008 8:47 AM CDT 0 recs

Looking at DJ

I wonder if he might just be the answer for the middle linebacker position? He certainly has the size (242) and the speed.

by Lanier63 on May 13, 2008 10:10 AM CDT 0 recs

Not really hating

I don’t hate Willie Roaf, but really, he could have given us a little more time. I thought he was extremely rude/unproffessional by quitting when he did. We were scrambling to fill his position and we still haven’t recovered. I think he may have singlehandedly destroyed us for 2 years, and only now do we have a chance to recover. I mean, all he had to do was let us know before the draft, and not on July 28th. If he did, we would have been able to prepare a lot better. I do love him for the wonderful effort/years that he did give us, but the way he went out was absolutely appalling.

My second would be Neil Smith. I couldn’t believe it when he left us for the DONKS. And to top it all off, he freaking played for the Chargers too!! WTF?? I could’ve forgiven him if the Bronco’s sucked when he was there, but 2 SB’s?? If he went there and hated it, I would have said that karma’s a bitch but everything would be even then, but because he won 2 while there, we totally got the crappy end of that deal, and I can’t forgive him for it.

by EyePod on May 13, 2008 10:37 AM CDT 0 recs

Can't Fault Roaf or Smith

Roaf was productive for us during his time here, he missed quite a bit of the previous season with injuries, he knew that team wasn’t going to the Super Bowl even if he suited up, and he’d had a lot of miles on the body. At that point he’s earned the right to hang them up when he wants…and it’s not like the Chiefs shouldn’t have figured that time would be coming around soon. The dude was in his 30s and the reason we didn’t have his replacement was because King Carl ignored the line during the draft and ran off John Tait.

As for Neil Smith, the Chiefs figured he was close to the end and weren’t interested in re-signing him to the deal he wanted. That’s just the way things go and once it happens he doesn’t owe his former team anything. He was outstanding for us when he was in a Chiefs uniform, he didn’t embarass us off the field, so we’ve got nothing to complain about.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

I know...

But I still don’t like it. I haven’t been really following football (at least this much) until recently, but I remember those two specifically. I probably would have done the same thing as them in their situations. I guess I can’t fault them when Management was to blame for not expecting/preparing for those types of things to happen

by EyePod on May 13, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

Pissed

Chester “Fatty, Lazy, overpaid, thug”, Mcglockton. This guy was supposed to put our team over the top. That off season everybody, and I mean everybody said that we would be the best team in the NFL and the Super Bowl favorite. After a horrible year where Derrick Thomas had his infamous “Monday Night Meltdown”, and Chesters not so great over paid year our season ended with no playoffs, and the firing of the second greatest coach in Chiefs history. Chester is one of those players who had all the talent in the world, but he really didn’t give a F##K about anything but himself. Chester is by far the biggest free agent bust in Chiefs history, and whats funny is I guarantee you that he is living it up some where smokin a J and laughin all the way to the back about all the money he stole from the Chiefs.

by ChiefsWolf24 on May 13, 2008 11:23 AM CDT 0 recs

Guess where he is

last time I heard he was working in the scouting department for KC. Were still paying him!

by chiefsfan1384 on May 13, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Andre Rison

He had a good first season with us, then turned into a complete ass.

McGlockton would be up there as well, although frankly I think the Chiefs were stupid to sign him considering that he was a known problem child with the Raiders. Apparently Art Shell (during his first stint as head coach) hated him so much that he actually ran a drill where he lined up against McGlockton one-on-one and absolutely flattened him in front of the team just to embarass the guy and straighten out his attitude. Didn’t work.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 12:26 PM CDT 0 recs

As For Lin Elliott (Yes, I Said His Name)

He was a crappy kicker who the Chiefs never should have picked up after his horrible stint with the Cowboys, but he didn’t shank those field goals on purpose or behave like an ass, so I don’t think he belongs anywhere on this list. The guy did the best he could and he simply didn’t have the ability to pull it off…not really his fault. It was Peterson’s fault for signing him and keeping him around when anyone with half a brain knew he wasn’t reliable (the dude missed three extra points in ‘95).

And Paul Hackett was the one who lost us that game against Indianapolis…not the kicker.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

pleeeze

Apparently you weren’t AT the game, freezing your ass off in the sub-zero windchill. It was excruciating. Not to prolong the discussion about this guy, but let’s revisit the facts: He missed THREE field goal attempts (from 35, 39, and 42 yards). The heavily favored, 13-3 Chiefs lost the game 10-7. Nick Lowery missing a 50 yard field goal against Miami is one thing. Missing THREE field goals, all inside 42 yards, at home – that is SICK.

by Keyser Sose on May 13, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

Chris?

Did you really edit his wikipedia page?

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on May 13, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

Whose?

by Chris on May 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

Lin Elliott's

It lists the nickname you always call him by.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up 0 recs

Question...

freezing your ass off in the sub-zero windchill

Think maybe the winds might have had an adverse effect on kicking conditions? Or that maybe, just maybe, when your kicker is struggling your offensive coordinator should probably get a fucking clue and adjust accordingly? Like maybe tailoring the game plan to favor the run against a team giving up 4.6 ypc to your running backs instead of having Steve Bono air it out in windy, freezing conditions in a game that where you never trailed by more than a field goal?

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes/index.nsf/8aba06aaab1d51b485256a9e000c9904/af01a36468e00dee85256abe00631544?OpenDocument

Paul Hackett was a moron and the loss in 1995 was entirely his fault. If anyone choked during that game, he did.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

Correction

meant “loss in ‘96”...since it was the playoffs for the ‘95 season.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

He just couldn't Hackett

There is no doubt that Hackett was an idiot and cost us on multiple occasions. I loathed him as much as anyone. But you HAVE to assume that your starting kicker can make at least 1 of 3 field goals. Don’t you??? But you’re right – giving the ball to Bono in that game was insane.

by Keyser Sose on May 13, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

You're Overrating Elliott

I’m sorry, but when you’re in crappy conditions and you’ve got a kicker who has missed extra points in all but one season that he played I don’t think you can assume anything of the sort. Elliott choked regularly in his stint with the Cowboys, that’s why Jimmie Johnson dumped him (quite harshly as I recall). Once he shanked the first field goal (and definitely after he shanked the second) Paul Hackett should have treated every possession as a four-down situation and adjusted the game plan. The biggest problem was, however, that Indianapolis had the worst rushing defense in the league that year, the Chiefs had the best rushing offense and yet Hackett put the ball in Bono’s hands as much as the RBs against a pretty solid pass Indy pass D (which created a situation where we had to rely on Elliott because we couldn’t get first downs).

Don’t get me wrong…the kicker blew it. But kickers occasionally have bad games due to weather or nerves, and good coaches adjust when it happens. Hackett didn’t, and that’s why the loss was his fault.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

Eric Warfield, Samie Parker, Kendrell Bell

Just to name a few.

by JasonM on May 13, 2008 12:33 PM CDT 0 recs

Warfield Sucks

No argument there.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Princess Steve

Bono – for falling down like a little girl every single time the D got close to him. Seriously, how many intentional sacks did that guy take in his career here?

by Keyser Sose on May 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT 0 recs

Bonoooo!

How can you not absolutely love his famous TD run?

by Chris on May 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

Bonoooo!

Yeah well, you have to love THAT moment. Of course the reason that everyone was fooled on that play was that nobody thought that he would ever risk getting hit carrying the ball. Now tell me, can you think of a 2nd positive Bonoooo moment?

by Keyser Sose on May 13, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up 0 recs

Warfield, really?

The guy was a 7th round pick. His performance on the field was more than good enough to justify the Chiefs drafting him there. Admittedly, he seemed like a bit of a goof, but for a 7th rounder …

by pleaseblock on May 13, 2008 12:57 PM CDT 0 recs

I think they meant the alcohol problems

by primetime 07 on May 13, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ryan "Fat Boy" Sims

He was a top 10 pick. If we base this off pay to play he would top the charts. All he did was suck up cap space for the time he was here. I hate that draft considering Haynesworth went in that draft as well. I don’t think Dorsey will clean us out without anything to show for like he did. There is something about Dorsey that says he will be what we expect him to be.

by chiefsfan1384 on May 13, 2008 2:36 PM CDT 0 recs

When we finally traded him

an article in the star (i think posnanski) calculated how many millions of dollars we paid him for each sack or each tackle…to call him unproductive would be a hilarious understatement.

by PVChiefsfan on May 13, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

Not Bam Morris

Trezelle Jenkins and Dan Williams, not so much hated, as consistently disappointing.

Dale Carter annoyed me off the field but at least he had a lot of talent to back it up.

Grbac versus Bono is tought to tell, they kind of mesh together in my memory.

The one who shall not be mentioned is probably my top pick.

I would put in an honorable mention for Kyle Turley and Chris Terry after last season. Sure they made Turley switch positions but he obviously was phoning it in towards the end of the season.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on May 13, 2008 2:53 PM CDT 0 recs

Dale Carter

He should be excluded from the list not only because he was an excellent player on the field for us, but because once he left as a free agent he signed with our rivals for a big contract and stunk it up on the field before getting busted for drug abuse…thereby screwing their team and their salary cap.

God bless you, Dale Carter :)

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Turley

I think that by the time he got to the Chiefs, he was pretty much done physically, so I can’t really blame him…all players hit the wall eventually, even when they do try. He couldn’t play at his ideal weight because his back was so bad and when he dropped weight he got manhandled.

As for giving up last year…well, I think there was a lot of that going on once everyone realized how bad that team was talent-wise, so I don’t know that you can single him out in particular.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

If Allen

keeps running his mouth like a fool, he may find himself on this list…talking crap to get his new Vikings fans going is one thing, but the Dorsey comment was very asshat-ish.

by PVChiefsfan on May 13, 2008 2:57 PM CDT 0 recs

Agree

Allen had the chance to be a god in this town. We’re talking George Brett status. But he didn’t care for the team and certainly didn’t give a shit about the city. For that, he’s dead to me. Would love to see someone chop block him.

by HIV 2 Elway on May 13, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

What Comment?

I didn’t hear him make an anti-Dorsey comments.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

Chris, Primetime?

Can you help me out with a link here por favor…Allen apparently made a comment along the lines of he hoped/thought that Dorsey ended up being a bust.

by PVChiefsfan on May 13, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

Not sure

He may have said it on television?

by Chris on May 14, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up 0 recs

I Found It

He made the comment in a radio interview. Couldn’t find a link for it, though.

So Jared Allen’s basically acting like a little petulant child…big surprise. The guy comes off as pretty much an insecure moron in every interview I’ve ever heard with him so stupid comments coming out of his mouth don’t surprise me. I’ll miss his production for the Chiefs, but I’m not really going to miss him or his cheesy calf-roping sack dance.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 14, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

Webster Slaughter. Remember him?

I can’t remember how many times I screamed at the television “CATCH THE FREAKING BALL!!!!!” Maybe he wasn’t that bad since no one else here mentioned him, but I just have bad memories of that guy.

by Vince D on May 13, 2008 3:53 PM CDT 0 recs

Let me throw

Eddie Drummond out there, if only because of the rumor that he flipped off the crowd at a home game last year.

by Chris on May 13, 2008 4:05 PM CDT 0 recs

Drummond Sucks

Easily my least favorite player of last season. I screamed obscenities at him on more than a couple of occasions when he screwed up returns. Quite possibly the worst kick returner I’ve ever seen play for the Chiefs.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

Drummond was awful.

Agreed – that dude was awful. What was Carl thinking? Anybody that Matt Millen cuts must be really bad.

by Keyser Sose on May 13, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up 0 recs

Well

His numbers weren’t bad.

I stopped screaming at him about mid way through the season. I used kickoffs and punts as bathroom breaks.

by Chris on May 13, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hate To Say It

But by the halfway point I was rooting for him to go down with a season-ending injury so I’d never have to see him in uniform again. That dude was not only athletically challenged, he was also brain dead when it came to making smart decisions on returns.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

As For Signing Him

Apparently Drummond was the son of a friend of Mike Priefer or something. He got in because he had a friendly connection to the Chiefs’ coaching staff…which makes the Chiefs choosing him over Justin Phinnissee even worse. Whitlock found out about it last season and said something in one of his columns.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 13, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

As far as return guys go

Cheap and young > expensive and veteran (even if proven)

by primetime 07 on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

The Chiefs?

He is among the worst KR I’ve seen in the NFL…

by PVChiefsfan on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm an idea man, I don't need your God damn negativity...

Isn’t this an incredibly cynicle topic?

by Dustin SLO,CA on May 13, 2008 10:01 PM CDT 0 recs

Yes

...but look how many people want to post about it.

by Vince D on May 13, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up 0 recs

I suppose it is

Off-season is loooong though….

by Chris on May 14, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up 0 recs

Offseason

Long and uneventful, once you get past the draft. So you might as well toss out topics, negative or not.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on May 14, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

For a while there...

I thought the Royals might be good this season, so then we might be entertained a little. But it looks like that might not be the case.

by Vince D on May 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up 0 recs

we are 3 games out of first place

how is that not entertaining? Last year at this time we were probably 10 games out of first, maybe more. If you are looking for an idea of this club check out the 1990 ATL Braves. They had a ton of young positional talent, and a young pitching staff. Look at the guys and compare them to the 2008 Royals. It’s scary how similar the 2 teams are. And the Braves went on a winning streak in 1991-2004. I see that happening with us, maybe not as long, but we will win alot of games in the near future!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1990.shtml

by JasonM on May 15, 2008 12:28 AM CDT up 0 recs