Kansas City Chiefs Draft Day 2 Open Thread
by Chris Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 11:03 AM CDT
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Hey everyone,
I've been having some issues loading posts like this on with 350+ comments and so have a few readers. Our guys are checking it for us so for now, use the #2 Day 2 thread. Just wanted to let you know we're aware of the problem.
Thank you for your patience.
Sorry again for the late start everyone. It's been a whirlwind of activity here in Austin, TX. Getting ready for the flight back to KC now. Here are the Chiefs' picks so far.
Round 3, Pick #73 Texas RB Jamaal Charles
Round 3, Pick #76 Tennessee TE Brad Cottam
Round 3, Pick #82 NC State S DaJuan Morgan
Round 4, Pick #105 Missouri WR Will Franklin
Expect a definitive write up later tonight.
GO CHIEFS!!!!
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Wait...what?
RB,TE? wtf? and i don’t understand burning a third rounder on Morgan at all… i figured that guy to be a fourth or fifth round talent
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
RB, TE, etc
Jamaal Charles is a kick returner as well as a 3rd RB. If he can have success on special teams with the Chiefs, I think he’ll be worth it.
Cottam at TE is an ok pick. He’s a huge dude, 6’8. Big target. Herm had said they wanted another TE. Personally I was hoping they’d get Rucker and develop him at Tony Gs future replacment, but oh well.
Morgan I dont know much about. He’s either going to be a 3rd Safety or a Nickel CB. He played CB alot in college.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it may just be the Mizzou fan coming out in me, but I don’t understand the Cottam pick when Rucker was still available. Cottam was injured alot and only started 10 games…Rucker started all 50; and broke kellen winslow’s records in the process.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I kind of liked Rucker too
Only thing I can think of is they may want a TE that can both block and catch and Rucker isn’t the best blocker.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rucker unproven as a blocker
Rucker pretty much only blocked from the WR stance… he almost never played on the line… maybe 1% of his plays, seriously. It doesn’t mean he can’t block, but he is basically unproven as a blocker on the line where he would take on linemen and linebackers instead of safeties, corners and occasional LB’s when spread out.
The Chiefs were looking for someone to replace Jason Dunn. He won’t be a starter because of Tony G, but when we run some twin TE formations and run, it is good to have a big physycal TE that can tear it up blocking.
by Ochophosphate on Apr 27, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i know.
my comments aren’t posting 1/2 the time. but taking a player who didn’t play a whole lot, and has been oft-injured vs. taking a player who started all 50 games… that’s the main thing i was looking at.
having said that, i still don’t buy into cottam. but i will reserve judement until i see something more out of him. chiefs did so well on the first day, i will just let them do what they’re doing.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
just saw how tall this guy is…
that’s FREAKIN’ HUGE!
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine a Safety trying to cover him?
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't imagine
shaq trying to cover him. (silly, i know).
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, i'm confused...
Why in the hell did they take ar RB over a WR with the first pick? it makes no sense to me. i’m also pretty surprised to see anthony collins fall this far. he’s undrafted yet, as well as booty.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy from WI said Anthony was no longer on Chiefs radar
Don’t know what possible reason there could be, but apparently they have no interest in him.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and neither does any other team apparently.
wierd.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bengals picked him up…
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin?
I know there are some Missouri homer here that think it is great. I dont mind having him, but I think he could have been had later…..not sure about this one.
by mikeumkc on Apr 27, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Franklin in the 4th
We need a fast receiver to stretch the field and Franklin ran a 4.37 40. Good slot receiver in my opinion.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think they could have had better talent in the 3rd, but whatever. the morgan pick is really puzzling…. the guy is touted as a project that could turn into something special.
seems really risky as a 3rd rounder.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan
What Im reading about morgan on NFL.com is that he is raw, but has a ton of potential with good coaching (and you know how Herm likes coaching his DBs). But that he is also a very good special teams player. As bad as Special Teams were for the Chiefs last year, if they can get a good ST player that will also develop into a good player in the future, it might end up being worth it.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it just seems like
the chiefs big impact was really going to made in the third round. they wanted to get 5 starters in this draft, but i still only see three. we basically drafted 3 special-teamers in the third at this point. it could work out fine, but i like the 4th round pick.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends on what they do at TE
Herm said they are going to do alot more 2 TE stuff with Gaileys new offense. If that is the case, Cottam may end up being a starter too.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamaal Charles
is the change of pace speed back that neither Johnson nor Smith are. I thinks he’s a decent pick. Still I would have loved to see Collins or Nicks come off the board in the 3rd for the Chiefs though.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If thats the case
they’re still a lineman short in my view.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where's The O-Line Help?
Chiefs passed on a lot of guys who could have been plugged into the line to take Cottam and Franklin. Franklin’s not a horrible pick, but I have no clue why they passed on Zuttah or some of the other lineman that everyone made a run on after we got Franklin. Just adding Albert (a guard converting to tackle) to our line is not going to be much of an upgrade over last year, and that doesn’t bode well for either the running game or the development of Brodie Croyle (who deserves a chance, even if he’s probably not going to be all that great). I gave the Chiefs an “A” for their first-day drafting, but 2nd day drafting is definitely a “C”.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jamaal Charles
I do like the Chiefs drafting him, though…he’ll be a good complement to Larry Johnson. I think he was a steal this low.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of us have been over on the recap thread all morning
Hi.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We all were happier with the picks we have made so far
than those over here.
All three were really good value, including Morgan who probably would have been a first rounder had he gone back to school and came out in 2009…
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with all the other needs
i think there could have been better picks made. we still need oline help in my opinion. the 3rd round picks are kinda suspect. while i like morgan and charles, i don’t think morgan was going to get taken before the 4th. could be very wrong about that though.
most likely i’ll warm up to these picks in time, but right now seems pretty strange.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
O-line
The way its going, there are going to be a LOT of qualtiy Guards and Centers available in the 6-7th rounds when we have more picks. Plus we have a ton of guys on the roster now that could still do something.
Herb Taylor could play Guard. McIntosh will probably go to RT. Niswanger could do center or Guard. Smith could do Center or Guard. Svitek may yet improve enough to play RT. Alibi could do Guard or RT.
So we may not be as bad off as we think we are on the O-line.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WR going to the Raiders
Interesting. Though as I said to Eccles, “I don’t know of anyone who can fathom the inner workings of Al Davis’ mind…best not to speculate too much.”
by gritsnyc on Apr 27, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting to the sentiments on this thread
We were pretty pleased by the value we got at each pick on the Recap thread.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we've had the best draft in recent memory thus far...
...but I agree that we have much work to do on the o-line. That said, I don’t think it’s a problem that can be wholly fixed by the draft. We have other positions that need help and such great opportunities falling into our lap at just the right moments that I’m not disappointed with the choices we’ve made so far, except taking YET ANOTHER TE. sigh
Post-draft trades and acquisitions can help build the o-line and fill some other holes, but this will be an ongoing process. Not rebuilding because we all know I HATE that excuse, but a process.
by gritsnyc on Apr 27, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
this draft is awesome. i don’t hate or love the third round, but as long as they were following their board, then ok. i guess time will tell with cotam and morgan… charles seems like he has good value where we snagged him. i just really feel like there were more pressing needs that could have been addressed in the third round… a’la:
picking early doucet, anthony collins, and pehaps cottam in the third.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys!
Crazy, hectic morning weekend in Austin. Got an impromptu job prospect that may have me moving there in three weeks.
Many thanks to Chiefs n Chopper, who was able to get this thread started for me.
I’ve only gotten to glance at the picks today and they seem to be a little curious but pretty solid picks.
I’ll have a major write up later tonight.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats.
This job had better not interfere with AP. Or we’ll hunt you down in Texas.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like ...
we can still upgrade the OL in the fifth and sixth rounds, yet. There are still a handful of good OG and C prospects on the board. Some that have good talent, but maybe questionable character. I’ll take the character risk in the fifth and sixth rounds.
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ike gone...
I don’t think we go Carl Nicks, even though we probably should, and instead go Owen Schmitt.
I would like it, but I would probably rather have Nicks or Scheunning.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What scares me the most right now is
when do we reach for a kicker?
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
we picked up a couple of kickers in the off season already?
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best kicker on the board is left footed
that was the same problem we had with medlock where we couldn’t let him compete with anyone because the holder would have to switch back and forth.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Derek Fine just got picked up by the Bills...
Did NOT see that coming. I figured that he had a chance to be taken in the 6th or 7th round, maybe, but instead the Bills take him in the 4th.
Wow.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Derek Fine...Greatest Receiver EVER At KU!!!
Just kidding :) He was a pretty decent tight end, though. Kind of surprises me that he went that high…he’s a bit slow for the NFL level I think and his hands aren’t spectacular (although he’s a decent receiver).
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamaal Charles highlight reel
Man this dudes fast. He’ll be doing kickoff returns I bet.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who in the hell is Harry Douglass in the header of this thread?
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Think somone looked at the wrong line
lol
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good move by the Vikes selecting Booty in the 5th
T. Jackson is not their answer at QB
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of JD Booty
but he is pretty solid value in the 5th.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who is the consensus on who we should take?
Schmitt?
Nicks?
Scheunning?
Wildcard?
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Schmitt, Nicks or Justice
Our line needs more help than we need an FB, since we haven’t really addressed the OL since Albert
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5th Round
Almost time for KC in the 5th. What do you think we get? I think we’ll pick some limp wristed QB if there are any left?
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if they take a QB this draft at all
it will be eric ainge or andre woodsen.
hahaha, i just heard someone on ESPN talking about john booty… greatest quote EVER:
“There’s no downside to with Booty, you only get upside with Booty.”
dude, i totally agree, lol.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost wrote in my post above "Vikes grabbing Booty"
but I had to change it.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
someone told me he was rocking everywhere
by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his name just allows so many great quotes to be out there. kind of wished he would have came to KC, would have definitely got me some booty… in teh form of a jersey.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id love to see Schmitt
Hes a wrecking ball of a run blocker, but hes not much of a pass catcher, so they may wait for Cox in the 7th round
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
We needed another corner, but a guy from GVSU?
I’m full of trust right now, so I’ll trust the pick, but we do, at some point, have to address the offensive line beyond Branden Albert.
Seriously.
We have 4 picks left, two of them better be O-Linemen.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im glad
that we’re at least in some regard addressing the secondary. besides o-line, it was definitely our biggest weakness last year. i’m interested to see how our new CBs and safety work out
by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so
how many brandons are left on the draft board? or, for that matter, people whose names begin with “bra”?
by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
more importantly
how many are offensive lineman? because we’re having a brandon attack this draft for sure.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL.com
Indicates Carr is an athletic specimen, but has limited football skills. They say he is not physical, and his technique will get him beat by smaller, quicker WR. Don’t expect him to be a big contributor this year. The brain trust must believe the remaining OL options can be had in the 6th and 7th rounds.
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's really looking like
the chiefs are taking BPA on thier board, which is fine with me at this point. but they have to come back to the Oline at some point.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team has a lot of holes, so ...
I agree with you. It looks like it has definitely been a BPA second day. I prefer to build line out on both sides of the ball, so I would have expected to see a little more OL help before now. That said, quality interior OL can definitely be found in the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds. I still am more or less ok with things, so far.
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carr
Not much scouting info on him, scary for a 5th.
But Herm was a CB, so I trust he looked at the kid in some way.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello Guys
Sorry I’m late, God first then the Draft on Sundays for me.. Anyway i have been catching up on all that has been said, and I am good with the picks so far.
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what is this
“god” fellow you speak of? is that something on youtube?
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm kidding
probably have to repent for that one, but seriously… early service.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Lanier
We have kind of painted ourselves in a corner as far as the O Line now. We need 2 more OL and a FB. Unfortunately, we might use one of our 6ths on a kicker.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can still pull it off
I really like Adam Speiker, Center and he may end up as an undrafted FA
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think we'll draft a kicker
The only kicker worth having is left footed and that was the same problem we had with Medlock.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a YouTube video on Brandon Carr...
Not a real big fan of this pick, seems to be a pick that will be cut when the final 53 is announced…
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
seems like
decent enough guy. he speaks pretty intelligently compared to some of the college players i’ve heard interviews of…
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curious they are still drafting CBs
I would understand it if they had gotten another guy in the 3rd round, but we’ve already got 3 guys on the roster as backups. If they arent going to draft a starter, why they drafting CBs?
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have only drafted two...
And Flowers is supposed to be a starter. I would rather draft some offensive linemen, but our secondary was a position of need, and we are definitely improving that area of our football team.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing I am most curious about in this draft is
Anthony Collins.
Why was he removed from our board and why did he fall so far? He was a 2nd rounder in almost every mock I saw.
Something happened, and I am extremely curios what it was.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
experience
is what i think it was… plus he may only be suited to play in the nfl as a gaurd… just my $.02
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to NFL.com
the Chiefs have addressed and drafted all of their needs, except for a QB.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, that’s ok then!
dusts off hands
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dennis Dixon to Pittsburgh?
Slash-type player, you think? Or, are they just protecting the QB position?
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes Josh Johnson..
The only real developmental QB left is Andre Woodson, I say we take him in the 6th round…
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well,
there goes Schmitt. I was wondering if Seattle would look to replace Strong with him. Seems like that’s the plan.
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but seriously
there aren’t any more solid QB’s left in my opinion, so lets just burn the rest of our picks on the best OL available
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll Bet Ainge Ends Up NYJ Starting QB
Kellen Clemens sucks and Pennington is done…Ainge has been a little under the radar but I think he’ll end up being a good QB. Tennessee tinkered with their offense a lot, which hurt his development a bit, but he seems to have put it together by his senior year.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brennan...Brennan...Brennan...
For our final pick.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
god i hope
NOT.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew Radovich is still available
He was a guard at USC…he’d be a value pick if he falls to us in the 6th round.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
definitely not for me. if they spent the last four picks on oline prospects i will be content with the draft. they won’t though.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
much rather
have woodson than colt brennan. brennan screams system QB. probably not even CFL or NFLE material.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Woodson
than Ainge, personally.
He has the potential to be a star, and while he has an incredibly high bust potential, it is worth the chance in Round 6 IMO.
Although I would rather use at least 2 of the 4 picks on offensive linemen…
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely a better prospect than brennan i think
but they need to start grabbing some lineman. maybe get that center out of notre dame at the least.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I would like Donald Thomas.
I know he has some off-field issues, but his projection is better.
by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
o line
is our first priority. maybe grab a qb with the mr. insignificant pick.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WE GOT BARRY RICHARDSON!!!
Awesome, awesome, awesome news.
He has potential to be really god, and is pretty good value IIRC in the 6th round.
We waited a long time to readress the offensive line, but this is a good pick.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Strong with long arms… the knock is his legs/footwork.
With some good coaching this guy will be a mauler.
Some said had he come out last year he would have been a 1st-2nd round guy. I guess a lot of tape caused them to back off of him. This guy could be a diamond in the rough.
by Ochophosphate on Apr 27, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there goes Marcus Henry...
4 KU players taken, I’m a big fan…
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
on Barry Richardson, I have silently been watching for him since yesterday
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You think PVChiefsFan is pretty pumped about it?
Richardson was his guy.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Six foot seven three hundred thirty-eight pounds!
Called the silent giant let his on field play speak for itself.
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another plus
This guy graduated high school in 3 years, and got his degree at Clemson in just over 3 years. This means two things to me.
1. He’s smart and/or diligent… likely both. To me this means he will learn fast, and take well to coaching. This is a certain plus.
2. I don’t see his age listed, but he should be pretty young considering how fast he got through school. This gives us some time to work on his weak points, and still reap the rewards for a long time if he proves worthy.
The Career Notes on nfl.com are pretty interesting too.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/barry-richardson?id=838
by Ochophosphate on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need a good center now, even if he needs to develop a year
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love to get Sullivan at 182...
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Play him early, the center position has to be really in tune with the offense.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't mind
getting justice either. I would be happy with either one.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Williams?
Anyone remember him from VA Tech, drafted in the 1st round a few years ago. Wondering if Brandon Flowers is kind of like that. Seems slow and big
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that the 2nd Appalachian State player taken?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep forgetting about Speiker
those extra picks are coming in handy
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Spieker
Isn’t there a reason he’s going to be a 6th or 7th round pick?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im hoping for Brian Johnston DE
Supposed to be just like Jared Allen at that age.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
can we draft
a new GM? i vote for schottenheimer.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
kevin robinson? did not see that one coming.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Never heard of this guy
Kevin Robinson
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“There may be bigger names in college football, but the statistics prove it – there isn’t a more consistent big-play threat in the country than Robinson. At the end of the 2007 season, Robinson became the NCAA career all-purpose yards per play record holder with a 16.16 average on 6,479 career yards in 401 plays. Robinson, or “K-Rob,” is a very good athlete with the blend of initial quickness, acceleration and top end speed to help an NFL team early in his career as a receiver and return specialist – a position from which he has generated nine scores on a combination of punts and kickoffs – including one during the East West Shrine Game.”
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope that whoever found Drummond no longer works for the Chiefs
Let the young guys have their chance
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's your kick returner
good returner
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, Kevin Robinson looks like a kick returner...
Late in the 6th round, I’ll take a impact player in any way, shape or form. Robinson figures to be our kick returner, maybe punt returner, and probably can be a pretty decent 4th or 5th WR option as a burner who can get up field.
I would like some more OL help, but whatevs. We still have two picks, hopefully we spend at least one on the offensive line.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's not a burner.
he runs a 4.69 40 but he should be a decent return man and 4/5 WR.
by TXroyal on Apr 27, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/kevin-robinson?id=2305
There may be bigger names in college football, but the statistics prove it – there isn’t a more consistent big-play threat in the country than Robinson. At the end of the 2007 season, Robinson became the NCAA career all-purpose yards per play record holder with a 16.16 average on 6,479 career yards in 401 plays. Robinson, or “K-Rob,” is a very good athlete with the blend of initial quickness, acceleration and top end speed to help an NFL team early in his career as a receiver and return specialist – a position from which he has generated nine scores on a combination of punts and kickoffs – including one during the East West Shrine Game.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what I HATE about these analysis...
From the same damn NFL article:
“Negatives:Level of competition is a concern. ... Great production early in his career and as a senior, but struggled with consistency. .“
What? The overview says: ”...there isn’t a more consistent big-play threat in the country than Robinson. “
So which is it?
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw that too.
i think the NFL needs some consistency in their writing… He’s not the only player that they outright contradict themselves about in their rating/grading.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many kick returners do we need?
seriously, we have said we are going to use jamaal charles, will sullivan and now this guy? carl needs to get serious and get a few OL. he did great on the first day but has really messed this draft up today IMO.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
charles
is going to be more of a stand in for LJ to give that 1-2 punch type of rushing attack. think jerome bettis/willie parker.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but seriously
almost all of these picks today we have said, “well, i don’t really understand this but at least he will be a decent return man.” I don’t want any more return men. I want some big maulers up front that will let LJ run free and open up the play-action-pass.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have not said that at all. i am still suspect on almost all these 2nd day picks.
seems like carl got to control the 2nd day, and not the first to me…
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
think he meant franklin
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
meant will franklin. in my fit of rage i said sullivan by mistake.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franklin and Charles were not returners
Neither of them returned kicks as far as I know in college. Herm had said they might try to get Charles to return kicks when they picked him, but now with Robinson, Id say thats out the window.
I think Charles is to be the Maurice Jones-Drew to LJs Fred Taylor in some 2 back sets for the Chiefs.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
charles
is not returning kicks. you can count on that. robinson will get first crack at that.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whats hurting us right now is all the Comp picks at the end of this round
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whats
hurting us is not having an offensive line.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a ton of guys on the roster already for O-line
Taylor, Alibi, Niswanger, Smith, Stallings, Svitek.
We added Richardson in the draft, will likely start out as a backup.
There will certainly be alot of undrafted linemen as well.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But ignoring the OL after the 1st round is hurting us more.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m kinda pissed about that. we had 3 rounds and 5 picks to address it, and did nothing.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think with what we have done and whats waiting back at Arrowhead may just
surprise us this year
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It hasnt been
a total waste of picks today but after the outstanding 1st and 2nd rounds I have to say Ive been pretty disappointed with how today has gone.
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
screw TE
because we didn’t get any OL, lets just plug cottam in at left tackle!
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs are doing what they have to do
We have SO many holes in this team we are not going to fix it all in one year.
They are taking the best players available for this year hoping to get some playmakers and will do more hole filling next draft.
Its easier to fill in a pothole than the grand canyon.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
But I think there were definately better players available at some of the spots we need to fix and we drafted some guys who MAYBE will make the team as a backup
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
but in these later rounds, it makes more sense to take BPA for needs. I don’t think anyone is kidding themselves that the Chiefs were going to fix all thier problems with this draft and offseason, but the 2nd draft day kinda has soured my mood from yesterday.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
preach
no way the chiefs were going to get a totally revamped starting line from this draft. especially considering what happened in round 1.
by Captain D on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not
suggesting that we would fix it completely in this draft. but if we get enough solid players, we could at least fill a few holes long-term.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not buying
that argument. we passed on so many offensive lineman in this draft. the skill players that we took this year are going to lose a year of development because they won’t have the blockers to give them space. building a football team is like building a house, you have to set the foundation first. our foundation on offense, when we have been successful, has been a great offensive line. our house is going to collapse because the foundation is weak.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we DO have offensive linemen already signed up
All the old trash we had has been gotten rid of. They have signed alot of guys this offseason for the Oline. Im not worried about it. They will probably get some undrafted guys as well.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1.
I would have liked to spend more picks on the O-Line, but all of the picks seem to have served a purpose.
Our O-Line will be better than last season, and the rest of our team should be better too (save the pass rush). We still figure to win only a handful of games though, and we can further address the whole O-Line nightmare next FA and next Draft.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats balogna.
we came into the draft knowing that O-line was our biggest need. instead of addressing it we took players that we don’t need right now. it was our most pressing need of all of our needs, and we didn’t address it.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The chiefs went from having probably the fewest WR’s on thier roster to having about 100 today. (obvious sarcasm here)
Seems stupid to take so many WR’s
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How you figure?
We took Franklin at 4. And got a return specialist in Robinson in the 6th.
By my count, thats only 1 WR. Unless you count Robninson as one, but hes no more a WR than Eddie Drummond was.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We dont need them IN YOUR OPINION
I would argue that we needed pretty much everyone we got.
The Carr pick is a little confusing, but other than that, I think we will use all the players there.
And look at the players who are still on the board. All the guys you are naming, Sullivan, Young, etc. Those guys may not even get drafted and can be signed as undrafted free agents. The NFL is LITERED with offensive lines that are made up of UDFAs. Look at Brian Waters.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no offense
but we lost JA and havent really found anyone to replace him. I mean seriously! moving Boone to LE ?
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i disagree
with that. we got the best DL in the draft in my opinion in dorsey. now the push up on the DL will just come from a different place on the line. also, dorsey will be cheaper and is a better team player than JA ever was. im happy having turk mcbride and hali on the ends with dorsey and a gap filler in the middle.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Day 2
We won’t really know how this draft went for a few years but I will say that I would have rather they focused a little more on the OL today. Without a solid o-line we’re still not going to be able to run the ball and the young QB we’re trying to develop will be getting rocked and probably knocked out again. To me it makes more sense to try to get that in place first, then take some skill guys.
You can't triple stamp a double stamp
by Pauli on Apr 27, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have really really liked our draft today...
I guess I am in the minority, but I have liked almost every pick. Cottam and Charles both have first round potential, and both could be absolute steals in the third round. Morgan, from what I have read, could have been a first rounder next year, so while he will be given a year as a reserve safety/nickle corner, he could be really good in another year or so.
Will Franklin is probably our #2 WR starting next year, a position of need we HAD to address in this draft.
Not in love with the Brandon Moore pick, but I trust that Herm knows what he is doing regarding CBs, so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I loved the Barry Richardson pick, he has the chance to be really, really good, even though that is a very small chance. He has potential, and that is about as much as you can hope for in Round 6.
I don’t mind using the 182nd overall pick on a return specialist who returned 9 for TD in his college career. That is serious production, hopefully he can reproduce it it the NFL with us.
Plus, we have two picks left.
So, while it would have been ice to spend more picks on offensive linemen, it wasn’t like we are a good O-Line away from a good team. We had holes all over the place, and we filled most of them, if not all, this side of the offensive line. And even then, it is completely unreasonable to expect us to devote the entire draft to just building an offensive line.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
benefit of the doubt
the o-line needs are so glaring the chiefs had to have been looking for it. if they weren’t sold on the guys I’m glad they looked to other areas because virtually every position needs help
by Captain D on Apr 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sullivan
notre dame C is gone. went to the vikes. looks like the vikings are pillaging us haha.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of our Day 2 picks, but,
From the 3rd through the 5th, it would have been nice to grab at least one OL. We could use a guard or center. I just feel that something is missing or has been misplayed.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think so
They have Niswanger and Wade Smith already signed. Either of those guys can play Center. And they have about 5 guys that could play Guard now.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine with
the second round pick if they had taken Trevor Laws! Dorsey and Laws side by side would have been pure havoc! Lets not forget UFA’S, maybe some o-line gems there.
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With that kind of d-line
how good would our corners really have to be?
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The young guys that
were setting on the sidelines were probably better than the ones on the field.
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe i can help with the debate
Turley, Svitek, Terry, Wiegman
Albert, Richardson, Smith, Niswanger (hurt last year)
GM its your choice?
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
rockchalk,
Can you tell us more about Richardson? I would like to have more info than what I am reading from scouts. Thanks.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not the one to ask...
I don’t have any inside information or anything, mainly just going off of PV’s ideas about Richardson.
All I have read is the scouts’ stuff and PV’s stuff, that is all I know.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
7th round
assuming both are still there, if we take justice and woodson in the 7th, it will completely change my outlook to this entire draft.
i forgot justice is still out there.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
scratch woodson
... still take justice though!
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ
where do you see Albert starting out at?
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If they had gotten another good Tackle in teh 2nd round
I wouldnt have minded keeping him at Guard, but there was such a run of OTs in the 1st round it just couldnt work out.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live less than 60 miles from Oxford, and I have a connection with
his parents in Memphis!
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Start dropping off Chiefs gear!!!!
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then start driving him to Chiefs games!
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a fireman's salary? I'd be in the negative just going one way
besidew you see how big he is? My food bill would be more than feeding the Station guys at work.
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, he is a great story.
And his adoptive parents should be proud. Thank god for them, even if he doesn’t make it in the NFL.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have connections
Out at Arrowhead? You nailed some of these picks in earlier posts!
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit.
colts took justice. well, there goes my happiness, lol.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pissed
that the Pats got Kevin O’Connell. >:(
What a waste.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They are preparing
for Cassel to leave, his contract is up at the end of the season.
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im calling Brian Johnston DE
With the 1st pick in the 7th round
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
let’s hope. he’s about the last person i think there is left worth drafting. i imagine the colts take him though… they always piss in my kool-aide
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and spieker
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Chris
If you move to Austin, what of AP?
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Except for warm days
He could probably get by wearing his Chiefs jersey underneath a Cowboys one.
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope just take
MMA training and sport the red and gold!
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling FB Peyton Hillis and/or OC Matt Spanos
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I'll be happy with any of the guys you are naming...
Especially Johnston, with DJ’s recommendation.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What about Adarius Bowman?
Do we not need another WR?
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just going off of DJ right now, but glad we picked up Johnston...
That is two lower division picks.
Let’s go O-Line at 239, then sign a bunch of UDFAs.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ I know you have inside info
Brian Johnston it is!
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd Day Draft Blues
I’ll flat out say it…except for Jamaal Charles and Richardson I hate every pick that the Chiefs made on the second day. Cottam’s an injury-prone pass catching TE (so he doesn’t replace Dunn and may not be a good replacement for Tony G), Franklin is a WR who wouldn’t be as valuable to us one of the linemen taken immediately after we drafted him, Morgan looks like a lesser version of Bernard Pollard (so probably a backup/ST), Robinson sounds a lot like Samie Parker, and Carr is a small school DB who doesn’t have great physical tools (meaning he’s not a great sleeper).
The Chiefs did great on the first day, but after Charles I think they really blew it on the second. O-line was the catastrophe this year…so what was wrong with Anthony Collins? Did he kill a hooker that we don’t know about? Fricking Peterson and his weird little grudges about players.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i mostly agree
i like franklin, but think we could have taken early doucet, collins, rinehart, and cousins somewhere in the third and fourth… would have been much happier with that scenario. i really don’t like the Cottam pick, but have to think a guy that huge can do something.
i think morgan might turn out to be a decent pick.. Carr was a bit unordinary and probably could have been an UDFA.
i do like the Brian Johnston pick alot thought. I am excited to see what he can do and if he transfers to the NFL.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cut off my comments
it cut off my comments for some reason…
i like franklin, but think we could have taken early doucet, collins, rinehart, and cousins somewhere in the third and fourth… would have been much happier with that scenario. i really don’t like the Cottam pick, but have to think a guy that huge can do something.
i think morgan might turn out to be a decent pick.. Carr was a bit unordinary and probably could have been an UDFA.
i do like the Brian Johnston pick alot thought. I am excited to see what he can do and if he transfers to the NFL.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Parker since
he is now a donkey, how far will he fly when Pollard gets a clean shot on him?
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope back to oregon. sucks about him because my wife was his biggest fan (don’t ask me why… We got Denny Thume to get him to autograph a picture of him for us… of all the people… ah, i digress).
I doubt parker plays alot with denver at any rate.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he at least falling down for no reason in the picture?
That may be worth it.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. he was actually catching a ball… I’m sure he wondered where the hell we got a picture of him like that.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say
we trade down our last pick for Mr Irrelevant.
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We're Not That Far Off Now
Hopefully our last pick will be a lineman.
What about Radovich? He seems to be rated pretty high and hasn’t been picked up yet.
Oh wait…he’s a USC player so therefore he’s dead to Peterson.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Kidding
By the way, when I tried to figure out what USC players Peterson had ever brought in (and named Sammy Knight and Larry Parker) I forgot about Marcus Allen. So Peterson has acquired one USC player by trade, one by free agency, and one through the draft during his time in the job. So that’s all of three players taken from one of the most successful programs in the country in 19 years (fewer than the number taken from his mediocre alma mater).
Carl Peterson is such an ass.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spieker
Is he a project or what?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We took some hometown
Cookin with Franklin just maybe!
by Eric Allen on Apr 27, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Keith
Brandon Keith, Still on the boards. He is one of teh fastest and biggest guys out there. I think he could be moved to Guard rly rly easy
Height: 6-6 | Weight: 343 | 40-Time: 5.19
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We are already over 1200 comments...
That is pretty cool for just a two day Draft.
by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That sure beats the Breaking news of the JA trade with 150 something
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
jared who?
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does anybody think
about Cory Clark OT from Texas A&M?
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like
I think Clark would be a good pick, but I have to say I like the idea of picking Brandon Keith and moving him to Guard
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I was just thinking that
Maybe having albert and clark as book end tackles might give LJ and brodie a much needed help.
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit
Arizona just picked Brandon Keith ERRRR
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tony Temple
Completely homer, but I want him with our last pick.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
Ya I love Tony “Touchdown” Temple as well.
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fullback
that guy out of Arkansas. With all those compensatory picks someone will probably snag him. It would be nice to have a real one instead of trying to manufacture one.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
true that.
Should have snagged Schmitt.
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd Rather Have Temple As A UDFA
I’m hoping that our last pick is a lineman. Radovich and Spanos are still on the board.
As for Peyton Hillis (FB from Arkansas), I don’t know if he’s going to end up a good NFL fullback. He’s got injury issues, he’s not that big (so he’s not prototypical) and he’s not that fast (so he’s not likely another Alstott). He definitely smells like a UDFA.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last Pick coming up
I say take a OL ….........
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm With You There
Radovich…Radovich…Radovich…
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A guard would be a nice
But I would rather try to pick up a true OT . Weve got some guys who can play guard already.
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. enough with the gaurds. our 2nd first rounder might only be able to play gaurd in the NFL. That’s the main reason I wanted Albert to go to Chicago so we could get Williams… but we know how that turned out. Hope Albert transfers well.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think He Will
He’s got the physical ability to do so…if not we’ll just have an exceptional guard.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Think There Are Any Left
And did you see that United Way ad with Brian Waters? He’s starting to look like a beach ball. He’s also in his 30s, he isn’t doing the offseason conditioning, and he hasn’t been a Pro Bowl caliber player for two years.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These late picks remind me of what Len Dawson said when he was drafted
They would send you a post card asking you if you were interested in being drafted
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As long as
they get a fat guy that can block I’m good
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Although Kirk Barton
out of OSU could make a decent Right tackle also
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kirk Barton
Kirk Barton OT, but throw him at guard. Bigger and faster then Radovich
Kirk Barton = Height: 6-5 | Weight: 310 | 40-Time: 5.01
Drew Radovich = Height: 6-4 | Weight: 301 | 40-Time: 5.38
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NICE PICK _chiefs_
We both thinking the same lol
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been reading about DE Brian Johnston
His profile and reports remind me a lot of Jared Allen.
Don’t get me wrong, he doesn’t have the insane small school sack totals of Allen, but this is definitely a Jared Jr type pick.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But what am I thinking??? we will pick a small slow WR
odds are
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone else find it funny
that we got the 32nd pick in the 7th round for a kicker who won the super bowl?
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for not saying his name
still having issues
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Barton Works For Me
Just as long as that pick is a lineman. If Peterson thinks that the collection of waiver scrubs and third-tier talent he’s acquired before this draft will cobble together a decent o-line in a year or two, he’s insane.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tynes
was a fluke. He made one out of three kicks in that game at crunch time. He was lucky that Favre is an idiot and thinks everybody is open.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think it’s a fluke that two of our players went to start for the giants and they won the super bowl. it had everything to do with mitchell and tynes, and dammit i decree we need to have compensation!
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I was a huge kawika fan! and now hes an eagle! :(
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we didn’t even get anything for mitchell, just released him. kind of crazy when you think about it. his stock got high after february, and i would have went somewhere else too.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying
that if you give someone MULTIPLE opportunities they will eventually come through. He needs to start making that kick the FIRST time he gets the chance. When he was here he was starting to remind me of Lin Elliot. That jerk almost made me trash a perfectly good TV.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope you know i'm kidding about our old 'LT'
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geoff Schwartz
Geoff Schwartz would work for me as well…...
Height: 6-7 | Weight: 332 | 40-Time: 5.30
Not as fast so not sure about guard spot
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i was surprised the chiefs didn't pick
Brandon Keith in the 7th round, since they have such a hard-on for guys named brandon this draft.
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for adding more Brandons to the Chiefs
Its my name so I kinda like it.
by TXroyal on Apr 27, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im saying
Barton. Hes big, mean and fast.
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA was just thinking
about what someone said earlier about just have Brad Cottam play Tackle.. I mean throw a few more pounds on teh guy and he might be ok hehe
Brad Cottam = Height: 6-8 | Weight: 270 | 40-Time: 4.63
he needs at least 30 more pounds hehe
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree _chiefs_
I would of rather of seen Brandon Keith at this pick but since he is gone I hope we take Barton and move him to guard.
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs on the board
here we go last pick…..
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
redraft justin medlock?
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did I know it was our pick again?
commercial time
by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SMOKES!!!!!! That was a terrible pick! WTF?
?!?
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We now have 4 TEs.
So we take the same amount of TEs as OLs. WTF!!!??
by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
way to go Chiefs. draft a guy with no stats at all. i think my mom has more stats on NFL.com than this guy
have you seen my baseball?
by IISaiNtII on Apr 27, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Gailey has some three tight ends sets that we don’t know about. I’m kidding of course.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another one of herms
no name college, no real experience picks
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't blame Herm
thats got to be a Peterson move.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Im not blaming
Herm soley. but he seems to like these under the radar so to speak type of players
by _chiefs_ on Apr 27, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
he wants to give Allan and that guy from Tennessee some competition. Probably not.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for it
if he can block I’m good. I think the tequila shots are starting to kick in for me now. There’s gonna be a couple of FA lineman I bet.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so ya we done
What grade would you give the Chiefs today? I say C- for today and a B overall draft
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great first day
second day would have been great too if they had spent one of those 3rd round picks on a lineman. Other than that (and the last pick) I’m ok with it. Can’t fill all of the holes in a weekend but they’re off to a decent start. If they sign the right UFAs it will be a lot better.
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Barton is gone to the Bears
but we needed that 4th TE
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Go Out To Buy Stuff To Mow My Lawn
And the Chiefs pick up a blocking tight end who’s got no speed. If we’re desperate at that position, why can’t we make Damion McIntosh our blocking tight end with no speed? He’s not doing much of anything at tackle.
I give the Chiefs a B- for the draft and a D+ for drafting on day 2. It would be a straight F for the second day, but Jamaal Charles was a steal I think and Richardson and
Johnston might turn into something. All of our other picks were horrible. I cannot believe that with offensive line being our critical need in a draft full of linemen, Peterson didn’t grab a second lineman until the 6th round. About half the guys we passed up could have started immediately. What an ass.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Guess Whitlock Had It Right
Carl Peterson is a horrible drafter. I seriously hope he’s gone after this season.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a ridiculous comment
Whitlock has never been right about anything having to do with football.
There are tons of undrafted offensive linemen that we can get as free agents.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
But I tend to agree with him about most things relating to the Chiefs. He’s not particularly tactful about his arguments and occasionally he’ll make really stupid comments, but he’s usually right about King Carl.
“There are tons of undrafted offensive linemen that we can get as free agents.”
Given a choice between competing with other teams for undrafted free agent linemen and having the draft rights to those linemen so we don’t have to compete for them, I choose drafting a lineman instead of wasting a pick on a scrub who’s neither a prospect nor a need.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You see guys that could have helped
on the line get gobbled up in the comp picks while the Chiefs spend a pick on a TE that will never make the squad
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What Can You Say
Carl Peterson is a cheap, out-of-touch old man and he drafts like a cheap out-of-touch old man.
And yes, I am saying that I think Carl Peterson was entirely in control of this draft, despite what the speculation is about his “tenuous” position. So I blame him for it.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just Heard
That the Chiefs took merritt to make him a guard….. I guess kinda like Brian waters
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tons of O-linemen left over for undrafted free agents
Andrew Crummey
Robert Felton
Doug Legursky
Eric Young
Drew Radovich
Adam Speiker
Fernando Velascoo
by ChiefDJ on Apr 27, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get me Radovich and Speiker
and the draft looks a whole lot better
by stram#1 on Apr 27, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Merritt
Anyone know his size? I would rly like to know if the Chiefs are smoking crack about converting him to Guard
by Boxol on Apr 27, 2008 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So He's A Tiny Guard Who Can't Run
Great. Nice job, King Carl.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.
by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long do you think it will take to get the top picks signed?
I mean for all teams. They usually wait until the top guy is signed so they can get as close to his money as possible. Hopefully it goes fast but with Carl anything is possible for the Chiefs.
by TXroyal on Apr 27, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
brad cottom
I am a huge tennessee fan, having lived there for seven years, so I have watched him quite a bit. I actually think that he will translate well to the NFL. I actually like that pick more than the Charles pick, alot more. Charles is stuck behind LJ, and I thought Kolby Smith did an adequate job at RB last year. So now we have 3 good RB? Instead of Charles I would have liked to see an O-lineman. Really, in the 3rd round, I liked the Cottom pick, Jamaal Charles, IMO, should have been a lineman pick, and Franklin should have been Doucet. After that, besides Richardson, the draft was a bust.
by ArrowheadRed5658 on Apr 27, 2008 6:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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