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Kansas City Chiefs Draft Day Recap

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Short and sweet on this glorious first day of the 2008 NFL Draft. The Kansas City Chiefs drafted:
  • #5 DT Glenn Dorsey
  • #15 OG Brandon Albert
  • #35 CB Brandon Flowers

Rounds three though seven are up tomorrow. Get your remaining opinions out about the Chiefs' first day in this thread.

Grade for the first day of the draft: A

Just an amazing job by the Chiefs' draft team. You've made this fan a much stronger believer in your plan.

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Pretty happy about the draft so far

Not a huge Flowers fan, but he fits the cover 2

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 6:58 PM CDT   0 recs

so....

then whose our corner if Flowers is a safety

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's not. He is a true corner.

I meant he comes up in the box like a safety.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2008 7:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Flowers should be a great Cover 2 CB

Only guy ahead of him on my CB list was Talib, who Tampa Bay (another Cover 2 team) took ahead of us.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 7:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Flowers is awesome

I can’t believe we were able to get him, Dorsey and Albert.

by Ilamuku on Apr 26, 2008 7:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

chris

you put albert twice

by The DBowe Show on Apr 26, 2008 6:58 PM CDT   0 recs

High value with each pick!

Great day one draft! Flowers can hit. All three are football players. Like the Albert pick and am confident he can do OT. Named items with “Brandon” on them will fly off the KC shelves, eh?

by sunny D on Apr 26, 2008 7:00 PM CDT   0 recs

Like Albert

And that we had the guts to trade UP for him

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is the site loading slow?

My comments are taking a little while to load…

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 7:02 PM CDT   0 recs

Not for me

At least right now. The site froze up for me when we had 400+ comments but this post, so far, should be good.

by Chris on Apr 26, 2008 7:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

3 starters, 2 to go???

If we “only” want five starters from the draft, we just need 2 from day 2, right? =) The first three are locks.

by sunny D on Apr 26, 2008 7:04 PM CDT   0 recs

Was just thinking the same thing

3 picks, 3 starters. I think we’ll get another CB in the 3rd round, hopefully Chevis Jackson.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 7:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Regardless of what happens tomorrow,

Today’s haul has been outstanding.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2008 7:09 PM CDT   0 recs

This is WAY off topic

but I live in Minnesota. People up here are just going stupid over Jared Allen. If he takes a dump its the first story on the news. I want to tear my eyes out. Just venting….now back to talking about the great draft the Chiefs have had so far.

Definitely three starters drafted so far. Albert at LT, McIntosh back at guard with Waters and now they can start drafting a RT and the line is good as far as starters are concerned. Day two is gonna be awesome.

by stram#1 on Apr 26, 2008 7:10 PM CDT   0 recs

Me too...

He has a bunch of potential still, didn’t start playing football until his sophomore or junior season in high school (his first love is basketball).

He could be a real stud at RT, and good value at the end of the 2nd round IMO.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't

We could have Albert-Waters-Smith-Niswanger-McIntosh.

Or we could still get a Center or Guard later on. I wouldn’t trade up for another Tackle at this point.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Boo!

I don’t think Niswanger is starter material, and I’m not a big fan of McIntosh at a tackle position. Move McIntosh to RG and draft a RT is what I would do.

Not a big fan of Wade Smith starting at center either, I would draft a center late in the draft to study under him for awhile, then take over the job sometime next season…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not 1st preference but

Im just saying if there are superior players at other positions, I don’t think its wise to trade up for another Tackle. We can still find a good Center or Guard in the late 3rd or 4th round if we wanted and McIntosh would be fine at RT.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point.

I don’t think we should be dead-set on trading up just for a RT, and should instead focus on overall value.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Awesome, awesome, awesome pick with Flowers...

Sorry, I had to leave, but I just came back to the news that we had taken Flowers. I am pretty frickin’ excited.

All three, as you guys said, are locks to start already, and I bet we pick another one up a little later on this round.

I’m telling you, its’ going to happen, we are trading back into the second. Probably for someone like Anthony Collins at RT, that would be sick.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:12 PM CDT   0 recs

Wow...

After zero WR’s being taken in the first round, all of a sudden they are all flying off the board. I would have been game for trading back into the second to take one of them, I am a big fan of Limas Sweed, but as long as we trade back in some how, I will be happy.

Hell, who am I kidding, I am estatic already…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:14 PM CDT   0 recs

The real fun thing to watch for...

Will be if no one takes Brohm tonight, who wants him the most to trade up to the top of the 3rd round to snap him up.

Probably, he will be taken sometime in the second round, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes unpicked and Miami, owner of the top 3rd round pick, fields a bunch of offers for the pick.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:17 PM CDT   0 recs

We need to make a push for Collins now.

He won’t be there tomorrow morning.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2008 7:19 PM CDT   0 recs

+1.

What would it take, right now, to move up?

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Collins should last until the 3rd round

We should get a shot at the top of the 3rd

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember, we lost pick #66 to the Lions...

to move up to snag Albert. So now, our first 3 is at 73 (then we have 76 and 82)...

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Herm is in a suit!

I don’t think I have seen him in formal wear before (NFLN).

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2008 7:24 PM CDT   0 recs

What is crazy about all this...

Is even though we have pulled off an awesome first day, picking up three awesome value picks at positions of need (YAY!), we still have 9 more selections.

9 MORE!

That is a lot, and three of them are in Round 3, which will have a bunch of talent available. This is a deep draft, and we should be able to get at least 2 starters out of our Round 3 picks.

So, while it probably won’t be as awesomely fun as today was, tomorrow should be fun as well…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:26 PM CDT   0 recs

Brohm gone.

Not a real big surprise…

Fins probably take Henne, either today or tomorrow morning with their first pick.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:26 PM CDT   0 recs

Why does the draft start so insanely early tomorrow?

Living out on the west coast, that means I will have to wake up at freakin’ 7 AM just to see the start of the Draft.

Craziness…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:28 PM CDT   0 recs

Yep, Fins take Henne...

I really think that Henne is going to bust out. Not a fan of his AT ALL…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:29 PM CDT   0 recs

I think we go (tomorrow),

1) OL (Collins)
2) WR (Doucet)
3) CB – pick em

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2008 7:29 PM CDT   0 recs

Hopefully Collins is still there at 73...

If so, that would be awesome.

I think that we take a wideout, someone, in the third round. After that, though, I really don’t have an idea…

I still advocate going BPA the rest of the way, because as the Chiefs fan on NFLN said:

“Hi, I’m a Chiefs fan and basically, we need EVERYTHING!”

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Collins is still there...

Do we trade up to make sure we get him, or just hope he falls to 73?

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 7:58 PM CDT   0 recs

wait...

I doubt Collins is rated much higher than guys that are still on the board, especially since we have so many needs. I like Collins but we need the picks IMO.

Bay Area Royals fan

by darenstevens on Apr 26, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what a great day...

I cracked my beer at noon to celebrate the draft here on the west coast….then Dorsey falls to us…then we trade up for what I consider a small fee to get Albert, who can play guard or possibly tackle…we need both. We then get Flowers who is great for our Cover 2.

I think we have a lot to look forward to tomorrow….

Bay Area Royals fan

by darenstevens on Apr 26, 2008 8:00 PM CDT   0 recs

For rills

I almost shat my pants I was so excited about today’s draft.

-Dorsey – What can you say? Awesome. Dorsey at the 3 gap, and Tank Tyler at the 1 gap inside, Tamba Hali at RE and Turk McBride at LE.
-Albert – I was happy to see Albert fall that far so we could snatch him up, that was good value.
-Flowers – Another great pick, and a seemingly perfect fit for our cover-2 system.

If day 2 continues in this vein, then we are establishing an amazing base for years to come. I’d like to see some more help on O-line and CB, and some WR help sooner than later.

by Ochophosphate on Apr 26, 2008 8:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1 on the needs.

Those are our three most pressing needs right now; some more O-Line help, another corner and we need at least one more wide receiver, if not two.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 8:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we *should*

be able to address all of those in round three tomorrow. well, not two WR’s, but one anyway.

i think if we can get one WR, we should be alright there with bowe, darling, webb, and whomever they may take.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Apr 26, 2008 8:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh.

I wouldn’t mind taking a flier or two in rounds 6 and 7…

I’m not saying take two WR’s boom-boom in the early part of Day 2, just that we need more than one overall…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

"years to come"

Welcome to the site, first of all, haven’t seen you around.

Next, Flowers is an excellent cover 2 CB. The only thing that bothers me is that there is no indication that Herm will be around long-term, which means see ya cover 2…

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 8:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

I’ve been lazy in the past and settled for traditional outlets for my Chiefs fix (KC Star, chiefs.com, nfl.com). But with the draft frenzy, I went nuts and my lust for all things Chiefs led me here. There seems to be a solid community of informed, intelligent people here… what a relief!!

I hear ya on Herm. I may be in the minority here, but I like Herm. I like the way the team is moving, and this draft so far has put a spark of optimism that actually feels legit. But we know Carl will be gone in 2 years no matter what… so there’s no telling what a new GM will do.

by Ochophosphate on Apr 26, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1.

Here is my thinking on Herm. I love his youth-first philosophy. Absolutely love it. I 100% agree with it.

I also love his preference of defensive players first, I think you need a great D to win a Super Bowl, which is what I want to do.

However, I am not a big fan of his in-game tactics, which are much-maligned, both here and everywhere else.

I am willing to take the good with the bad, but barring some incredible improvement next season, I wouldn’t be heart-broken to see him get the axe…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

rockchalk

I hear ya on questioning Herm’s x’s and o’s but a lot of people threw that out about HCBS and we saw how that turned out.

i think you have to get to the playoffs to learn how to win there (Marty excluded). I question whether Herm can be the man to do it but I can’t think of many out there that would be available I choose instead…..that said, I’m rollin with Herm and his draft choices and hope lightning can strike twice for me within the next 5 years and the Chiefs can get a Superbowl like the Hawks got there championship.

I was not making this a college allegiance post for everyone else, just making a correlation between myself and another jayhawk fan…..today is for the Chiefs.

Bay Area Royals fan

by darenstevens on Apr 26, 2008 9:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I meant to say, their championship...

sorry for my quick typing

Bay Area Royals fan

by darenstevens on Apr 26, 2008 9:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point...

I’m certainly willing to give him another couple of years or so to work it out, I’m just not wildly optimistic about it.

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 9:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That about nails it:

I’m on-board with your evaluation of Herm. Love the scouting/talent evaluation side, youth first, D first… not a big fan of the in-game tactics. He’s certainly not the greatest football mind when it comes to that. But maybe it will improve. It certainly can’t get much worse.

by Ochophosphate on Apr 26, 2008 10:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like the way Albert thinks

This was a question to Brendan Albert. You can find the interview at KCCHIEFS.com

Q: Can you talk about your relationship with Kansas State head coach and former Virginia Assistant Coach Ron Prince?

ALBERT: "Coach Prince helped mold me into the player I am today. He helped put that mentality of being a killer [in me] and when I pull to crush people and be a technician. And Coach Groh used to go over that after, but Coach Prince helped that mold and he laid the ground work with me. I remember when he left [Virginia] he said, ‘You’re going to be an NFL player, son.’ He always believed in me even though he was hard on me. I always respected him as a coach."

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 9:02 PM CDT   0 recs

Carl Peterson is such a bitch

PETERSON: "I’d like to preface this with Bill and his staff and Herm and his staff and what a great job they did to identify these guys. These are people that we certainly hoped we would get to, but I’m not going to build them up too much because I have to get them signed."

I know this was said tounge in cheek, but given his reputation, you would think he could resist making comments like that.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 9:06 PM CDT   0 recs

you're 100% correct...

I saw that as well. I also heard Herm talking about the guard/tackle they drafted and how they won’t commit to him playing there….I understand it but at the same time I see this as message from Carl that says we’re not going to pay you tackle money, you’ll get guard money.

I hope Clark Hunt says to Carl….”look, we got out of paying the money to Allen so let’s make sure we get these guys in camp on time…..”

If we don’t get them there on time we’re just killing ourself. What’s wrong with getting guys in camp first. If you’re in business and you have a new product, you don’t wait for your competitors to bring their to market first to set the price…...

Bay Area Royals fan

by darenstevens on Apr 26, 2008 9:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't mind a little bit of posturing here or there...

As long as they show up to camp on time.

But seriously, if either of them hold out, I will be incredibly pissed…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 9:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What about our need at Defensive End?

Why is it that no one mentions our need at DE? The consensus here seems to be that Turk will simply step into Jared’s shoes? Am I missing something? A few days ago, all of the talk was Gholston or Long to replace JA, and now nothing… What gives?

by arcticmango on Apr 26, 2008 10:32 PM CDT   0 recs

We have alot of needs everywhere

Losing Jared at DE just made one more but its not necessarily more important than any of the others.

I suspsect the Chiefs will get a DE somewhere along the line to go into the rotation, but it will probably continue to be a need until next draft. shrug Rebuilding takes more than one year.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 10:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

+1.

Even with 12 picks, we can’t possibly be expected to fill all of our needs in one draft. Seriously.

Next year, hopefully we improve, but we should still be picking somewhere in the Top 10. That gives us some picks where we can take another premiere player early, and plenty of other options in the later rounds to fill some more needs.

I am more than fine with letting Turk see if he can stick at DE. That would give us an awfully exciting, awfully young D-Line that would be really nice to build the rest of the D off of, if everyone works out (Tamba, Turk, Tank, Dorsey).

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 10:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen

Hali, Tyler, Dorsey, McBride is my speculation as well.

Turk McBride was a little small for an every down DT anyway – 6’2” 278. But that size is almost perfect for a run stuffing LE. We could always snag another DE later today in the mid/later rounds, but it might be a developmental player, not a day 1 starter.

Then slide Hali over to Jared’s old spot at RE and cut him loose… let that motor run all day. A middle rotation of Tyler, Dorsey, Boone and whoever should be pretty solid.

I guess Boone could play DE as mentioned below… probably put him in there to stuff the run in some situations. But I don’t think he’s an every down solution at DE.

I hate to say it… but Jimmy Wilkerson would have been a good fit in this rotation. He could slide outside or in depending on what we needed at the time.

by Ochophosphate on Apr 27, 2008 7:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Boone at DE?

I just read through Warpaint Illustrated, and there is speculation that were the season to start tomorrow, Boone and Hali would be our starting DE’s, with Dorsey and Tyler in the middle. Turk, I suppose, rotating in. This does sound pretty sick… I’m pumped!

by arcticmango on Apr 26, 2008 11:06 PM CDT   0 recs

I saw that too

I thought that was really strange.

Even if hes a tweener, you would think Turk would be a much better option at DE than Boone.

Maybe they just want Turk to have to earn the spot rather than just handing it over to him. Or maybe they only intend Turk to backup Dorsey as the 3 technique pass rusher. Kind of confused here.

Even if he was not a speed rusher off the left side, he would be a solid run blocker and I would think be faster than Boone.

Guess we’ll have to see how it shakes out in preseason.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 11:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just read Whitlock

Might there be truth behind his comment that within the organization, Turk is considered a “bust?”

by arcticmango on Apr 27, 2008 7:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That is the last article from Whitlock I will ever read

He is not a supporter of the Chiefs, just a hater, Done.

by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2008 8:15 AM CDT   0 recs

anybody else

watching the draft? are we going to start a new thread or keep this one going?

by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 9:02 AM CDT   0 recs

I was wondering the same thing....

With the new start time (the only negative in the changes, IMO. 7 AM is WAAAY too early on the west coast) I had to actually set an alarm to wake up in time. Crazy stuff.

Still, I am here. Anybody else here besides DBowe?

by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 9:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

the picks are moving pretty quick this morning. i’m liking that, we’re coming up soon

by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 9:09 AM CDT   0 recs

So far, so good...

No one has gone O Tackle yet, we still have a chance at Anthony Collins.

by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 9:14 AM CDT   0 recs

and if collins is gone

carl nicks is still out there

by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 9:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

im over it too

manningham got a 6 on the wonderlic, not that you can judge anything by that but still

by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And ran a 4.6 in the 40

and lied about smoking pot.

He has a bunch of potential, which is why I wanted him in 5 or 6, but the 3rd is too early IMO, with all of his problems.

by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 10:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Granted

He did improve his 40 a bit at his pro day… but not that much.

It’s not just that he lied, but that he lied to the faces of coaches/gm’s etc. Then his apology was a letter that he circulated to the clubs.

He has upside… but I guess he shot himself in the foot for the most part. Talk about costing yourself millions.

by Ochophosphate on Apr 27, 2008 11:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm here

Just had to read all the articles about our insane Day 1.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 27, 2008 9:21 AM CDT   0 recs

Yea, I'm doing them both

It is fun to have people so excited about the Chiefs…

by rockchalk on Apr 27, 2008 9:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

hester to the chargers in the early part of round 3? i mean he’s the best FB available, but still…early? could be scary blocking for LT.

by The DBowe Show on Apr 27, 2008 9:23 AM CDT   0 recs