Competition For Jordy Nelson

by primetime 07 on Apr 25, 2008 1:56 PM CDT Comment 16 comments

Kansas State wide receiver Jordy Nelson flew under the radar for the large part of his college career. He never quite hit the national scene until teams became comparing him to Wes Welker. And after the season that Patriot had, it's no surprise to see Jordy's stock soaring into the 2nd round.

Nelson and his agent have been hearing 2nd round from multiple sources. The Redskins were reportedly interested in him and had him out for a visit.

"They just said they were interested and wanted to see how I might fit in with their team," said Nelson, who is ranked as the 8th best receiver entering the draft after entering the NFL Combine in February ranked between 11th to 15th. "I went out to eat with the owner, head coach and position coach, toured the facility, and met some of the players. They just wanted to find out what kind of person I am."

Good news for Jordy but potentially bad news for Chiefs fans. It's been well documented here how we feel about him. It doesn't seem as if the Chiefs are willing to spend a 2nd rounder on him but with the addition of two more 3rd round picks, it's possible we could snag him either via trading up or taking him at the top of the 3rd. That is, unless, the Redskins get him first.

Are we ready to roll the dice and hope he falls to the 3rd round or are the Redskins going to get him in the 2nd?

Hat tip to PFT

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I don't know much about Jordy but looking at his career stats

I am a bit worried. He had nearly twice as many reception and 500 more yards last year then his previous two together. The only thing that make Welker special is his super human quickness. He is not overly fast just has explosive start and change of direction speed. I may be biased because I played against Welker in high school and he tried to get me to switch high schools to go to Heritage Hall, a private school in OKC. Anyways for people that know more about Jordy does he have the explosion of Welker bc if not I say let someone else get him. Also he is built nothing like Welker he is nearly 6 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier but other then that I guess he is just like Welker.

by TXroyal on Apr 25, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We won't trade up

were not going to give up a pick to reach for Jordy.

by PVChiefsfan on Apr 25, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think we might

We have all been under the impression that the Chiefs were stockpiling picks to throw numbers at the draft, but I think they might also be stockpiling them to have the power to move up to get the players they think will be real difference makers.

Really, does it make more sense to get the best 13 players that come to you, or to spend a couple of those picks moving up to get players you think will be stars in the NFL? Its not that expensive to move up from a 3rd round pick to a mid 2nd rounder (costs around a 4th round pick).

Personally I think Nelson is going to end up being an NFL star and it would be foolish to stay put and just take whoever falls to your place and not try to move up and secure him just because it would cost you a most likely mediocre player in a later round.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 25, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't Trade Up For Nelson

I like Nelson, I think he’ll be a very good pro, and I’d love to see him in a Chiefs uniform but there are a lot of other areas on the Chiefs’ roster that need addressing in addition to WR (starting with the lines). If Nelson slips to the end of the 2nd round and we can trade up without screwing ourselves too much, fine. Otherwise, there are other receivers in the draft besides those who happen to play college ball close to us who have potential…they deserve a look as well.

It’s always nice when the hometown star stays close to home…but the Chiefs shouldn’t hurt their overall draft just to make that happen.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 25, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree but

You are right that there are alot of receivers that the Chiefs could go with. But from my personal research (and I have no “hometown” loyalty to Nelson. I am not a K-State fan and never followed him until doing research for the draft) I think Jordy Nelson will be the next TJ Houshmandzadeh or Wes Welker. He just has star written all over him.

One thing that is so easy to do when you’re looking at prospects and draft picks is getting caught up in the numbers game. We start looking at round values and if prospect A isn’t there then we’ll just get prospect B. But if there is a guy there, especially in the middle rounds, that you can almost guarantee will be one of those guys that in 5 years we’ll look back and say “he should have been picked at #5 overall if we had only known”, then I think you go for him.

Jordy Nelson has flown under the radar his entire life. He was a walk-on at freaking K-State for gods sake. But if there is one player in this draft that if I could buy stock on him being far and above where he is drafted, it would be Jordy Nelson.

In the middle rounds it is much more cost effective to move ahead as well.

The Chiefs have the #66 pick in the 3rd round. If you go by the trade value chart, if we traded #66, and our lone 4th round pick (#102), we should be able to move up as far as Seattle at #55 in the 2nd round.

If he fell to us, we would use that 3rd round pick on him anyway, and who can you think of that we would get in the 4th round at pick 102 that has as much potential as Nelson does? To me, trading up in that situation makes a WORLD of sense.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 25, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Couldn't agree more DJ

by JasonM on Apr 25, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dont like him in the 2nd round

can someone give me a reason why he is worthy of a 2nd round pick. I sure can not find one.

by TXroyal on Apr 25, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's one of the better receivers

And has drawn the attention of pretty much all the NFL scouts.

He has an outstanding work ethic, big strong guy, much faster on the field than off. He has proven that he can gain seperation and beat highly skilled CB prospects like Aqib Talib.

He doesn’t have outstanding work out numbers, but does everything right on the field.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 25, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree that he's good

I just don’t want Peterson pissing away two third rounders to get Nelson. Rookie receivers usually aren’t great right away and they take time to adjust to the NFL. Nelson may develop or he may not…but he is most certainly not a sure thing (as evidenced by the fact that nobody is talking about him as a first-rounder.

I’m a KU fan myself, I don’t particularly like K-State football and yet I still think Nelson was an excellent receiver and will probably be very good in the NFL (and I would love to see him in a Chiefs uniform). But not if it means leaving a lot of holes elsewhere. The Chiefs are a team that’s got a lot of spots to fill and we have a draft that’s well suited for doing it and we shouldn’t cough up draft picks just to grab a player that’s likely not going to make or break our team (and WRs do not generally make or break teams). We need linemen this year first and foremost (both offensive and defensive), and those are the positions we should err in favor of when it comes to using our draft picks. At this point WR is a luxury and the lines are not.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 26, 2008 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear where you're coming from

There is no such thing as a sure thing in the NFL. Even if he has the potential to be a great WR, he could go out and break his leg during training camp and never be the same. And yes, he will develop over time, thats fine with me, we aren’t going to the playoffs for a couple of years anyway.

But we wouldn’t exactly be “pissing away two 3rd rounders”. If he were to fall to the 3rd round, we would undoubtedly spend one of those picks on him and personally, I don’t have a problem throwing in a 4th rounder to get a player that I think is going to end up being a steal in the late 2nd round. That 4th rounder is all you are actually giving away and in my eyes, getting a quality #2 receiver would be worth passing on what could be a nobody in the 4th.

Im sure the Chiefs wont trade up for him, there are alot of decent receivers in the middle rounds of this draft. But Im going on record now as saying Jordy Nelson is going to be a star in the NFL and when that happens, we will feel foolish for not being willing to trade a 4th rounder to move up to get him.

by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Understood

If we can move up from the 3rd into the 2nd without giving up anything higher than a 4th round pick, then I’d be okay with that. I just wouldn’t want to give up an additional third rounder for him.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 26, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My POV...

Agree completely. Even as a KU fan, I had fun watching Jordy Nelson because of how god he was in college. Now, the completely overblown ‘Jordy burned Talib!!’ kind of pisses me off, but I’m over it by now.

I would love to have Jordy Nelson on this football team, but I am not interested in giving up some of our picks to move up and ‘reach’ for him in the second.

If he is there in the third, great, let’s take him. But otherwise, I think I’ll pass…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Overblown?

He ran right by and separated from one of the best corners in the country OK, it was just one play, but Nelson went for 10 catches and 137 yards that day.

I’m not sure why anybody thought he’d fall to the third round. It’s been pretty clear the last few weeks he was a second rounder.

We'll carry the banner high!

by TB on Apr 26, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't mean to imply that we should trade up

There’s not a player in this draft I would trade up for.

The only reason I would is if someone was falling big time.

by primetime 07 on Apr 26, 2008 6:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1.

It would be a bummer IMO if we traded for all these picks, stockpiling all of them, only to trade plenty of them away to move up.

If anything, I want to trade down and pick up more picks…

by rockchalk on Apr 26, 2008 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

By The Way...

Apparently Michael Smith from ESPN (who’s usually a pretty solid source) said the Rams have apparently decided to take Chris Long. So we might see Dorsey…or not.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 26, 2008 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs