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Kansas City Chiefs Guard Brian Waters on the Jim Rome Radio Show Today

I caught Kansas City Chiefs guard Brian Waters on the Jim Rome radio show today and since we're waiting on Ben to get his AP mock draft pick in, I figured I'd fill you guys in on what he said.

Jason Whitlock was there to ask him a few questions.

On who the Chiefs should draft...

- A team with a lot of holes to fill
- The Chiefs will probably end up trading down
- A lot of good offensive linemen this draft
- Jake Long would be great but there are a lot of other good players too

On expectations for this season...

- Optimistic last year; was completely wrong
- Cautious outlook this year

On trade rumors involving himself...

- If the Chiefs want to trade him, so be it. He wouldn't be shocked. It's a business.
- Has not asked for more money
- Heard a lot of different rumors this off season
- Hopes the Chiefs are up front with him about their plans
- Sitting out off season training activities (OTAs) but that's normal for him. He wants to spend time with his family.

I listened to this interview because it was billed in the notes on the Jim Rome web site and on a few Chiefs message boards as an interview where Waters floats the idea of the Chiefs trading him. I did not take that away from this interview. Whitlock prodded Waters a bit to talk about the Chiefs trading him but Waters gave the standard athlete response - It's a business. It wasn't anything any one else wouldn't say to a randomly brought up trade rumor. He didn't exactly sound ecstatic about the organization and it's direction but he wasn't asking for a trade either.

So if you read about this interview elsewhere, I wouldn't sweat it. It wasn't much to listen to.

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Sitting out off season training activities?
You know, I don't exactly fault the guy for wanting some time off, but when the dude is 31, played for the worst o-line in football last year, and didn't have a great year individually I think that maybe he should consider getting off his ass and going to the off-season activities.  Whether Waters likes it or not, the NFL is a competitive, year-round job, and if Waters isn't interested in trying to offset the natural effects of aging with more offseason work the Chiefs need to ship his ass somewhere else in exchange for a draft pick or perhaps for a hungry prospect who is interested in working to improve.  Waters has got maybe a couple more years at peak performance in the NFL (if he doesn't turn into a lazy blob)...he'll have plenty of time to lounge around at home with the kids once his contract is up.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 10, 2008 4:16 PM CDT   0 recs

I agree with you but not so emphatically
Professional sports in general are year around jobs. I think all players should move to the town that they play for, people in the armed forces do it all the time. I don't get to decide to move away for months out of the year because I need to be with my family and I make a lot less then he does. He has maybe 5 years left playing in the NFL then he can take all his millions and sit where ever home is and be with his family.  I know he does this every year and many people do this but I find it very unprofessional for all the guys that do this. I understand his want to be with family, I live in Texas for college and my girlfriend and family live in KC but 3 more months and I am done with this crap and will be back, but there are ways to work around it namely moving the family with you.

by TXroyal on Apr 10, 2008 7:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Strategic move
Don't you think taking the OTAs off keeps him fresher for the season?

You made the point yourself that he is 30 something years old.  At that age, I don't want them out there the entire off-season.  With older guys, the more repetition just seems to wear them down and increase the likelihood of injury.

by primetime 07 on Apr 11, 2008 7:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And By The Way...
...my previous comment was my diplomatic translation of my initial reaction to hearing he wasn't at the offseason camps.  After that interview, Carl Peterson ought to be bending over backwards to ship Waters out of town for a third-round or fourth rounder.  The last thing a young offensive line needs is an aging veteran who thinks he's too good to have to work on his game.
Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 10, 2008 4:21 PM CDT   0 recs

I can't imagine the Chiefs trading Waters
This is the first time I've even heard anyone suggesting Waters be traded.  Have no idea where that came from.  Obviously they are trying to rebuild the offensive line and it would be foolish to trade off the only piece that is actually working on it.

by DJ on Apr 10, 2008 5:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Trade Waters
DJ,
This is the first time I've even heard anyone suggesting Waters be traded.  Have no idea where that came from.

It apparently came from Waters.  And after I heard that Waters (a 31-year old offensive lineman coming off a bad year personally while working for the worst line in the NFL) had apparently decided that he didn't need to attend the offseason workouts I agreed with him...he needs to go, now, while he might still have some trade value.

Obviously they are trying to rebuild the offensive line and it would be foolish to trade off the only piece that is actually working on it.

The last time I checked, 31 year old players with declining performance in the NFL don't generally get better when they blow off the offseason conditioning.  

In fact, I now go on the record as saying that Brian Waters will be worse next year...regardless of who the Chiefs draft.  My only hope is that there's some other team out there this offseason desperate for an aging guard who has a GM that didn't hear that interview.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 10, 2008 6:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Waters
Waters sits out OTAs EVERY year.  This isn't something new.

He had a rough year last year because instead of being surrounded by Hall of Famers, he was surrounded by bums picked up off the street.  The guys next to you on the offensive line, more than any other place on the football field, can drastically affect your performance.

Being 31 does not necessarily mean you are decending.  We will have a tough time replacing the three open positions on the line this year as it is without replacing Waters who is the anchor.

The time will come probably in the next couple years that we are going to be looking for Waters replacment, but this year isn't the year to do it and I see no reason to get fired up against Waters because he's skipping weight lifting sessions during the OTAs like he does every year.

by DJ on Apr 10, 2008 6:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Trading Waters
came up in the conversation when, out of nowhere, Whitlock says he's read rumors on the internet about Waters being traded.

I'm not one to brag by any means but I read a lot of Chiefs info on the web and that has never come across my path.

by Chris on Apr 10, 2008 8:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember when
Journalists REPORTED the news and didn't try to make it?  Yeah, I miss that.

by DJ on Apr 10, 2008 8:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahaha
Sorry Chris that was just really funny the way you said, all be it true. I agree with DJ though. Those were the days. If you want revenge on the media, I recommend watching antonio pierce with the air horn. Probably the best anti-reporter video there is, not to mention hilarious.

As for the rumors, I can never seem to find them either, and unless the internet ol' witty is using is  better than mine, I get the feeling he is making some of this stuff.

One more thing. Does whitlock write in the newspaper, or is he just an online journalist? I can't imagine what it would be like to read his crap in the morning, it would really ruin my day.

by Ben S on Apr 10, 2008 11:09 PM CDT   0 recs

KC Star
And now I think AOL.  He left ESPN.

by primetime 07 on Apr 11, 2008 7:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Offseason For Older Players
primetime,
"With older guys, the more repetition just seems to wear them down and increase the likelihood of injury."

I think that it's okay to restrict veterans' time a bit more in training camp...that's generally the two-a-day stuff and drills they've run a hundred times and it's right before the season and it's often an unnecessary grind (as the players noted with Vermeil).  But the non-camp offseason programs, from what I've heard are more about strength and conditioning, which is the basis for any athlete to perform, especially as they get older.  It's understandable to skip a month or two to recuperate, but it's not to skip the entire regimen.

As DJ noted, Waters has never attended OTAs.  Well, that's fine when you're a player in your 20s who can get by on natural ability but as you get older the offseason stuff gets more and more important because your performance does drop off as you get older.  This is true in every sport, not just football.  As players age, they have to work harder just to stay in place, much less improve.  If Waters isn't willing to do that, I'd say that indicates he's much more likely to be worse next year, not better, and we need to look at trading him now, while he has some trade value(assuming anyone wants him).  Otherwise for the next two years we'll be stuck with a high-salaried player that isn't very good.  And I'll say it flat-out...he wasn't really that good last year anyway, even taking into account the terrible players around him.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Apr 11, 2008 8:04 AM CDT   0 recs

in response to the OTAs
Just curious when Waters started skipping the OTAs?  Was it when he came over from NFL Europe?  Was it when he was an undrafted FA tight end from North Texas?  Probably not.  He wanted to get better and stronger to fit the o-line.  When Roaf, Shields and the rest came together to make him a pro bowler then he felt the need to start skipping.

My point is this.  Waters should go to the workouts.  The line needs him more than ever now and these young guys need to see him working hard.  I just don't get the idea that if you're established that you get to skip (while voluntary) these programs.  Especially coming off a worse than normal year.

by dkugler838 on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Waters is supposed
to be the leader of this line. He should be with the young guy's establishing the leadership. He is no longer surrounded by all pros, he has to be this type of leader. The young guy's see this and figure he does I can to. Missing these things have a history of creating injury in older players. Roaf missed a lot of these type things and as he got older the injuries piled up.

by Eric on Apr 11, 2008 8:45 AM CDT   0 recs

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