What They're Saying About The Chiefs Loss

by Joel Thorman on Dec 8, 2008 9:07 AM CST

Luckily, they moved all McDonald's wrappers from the end zone so Marshall is safe.

Jason Whitlock doesn't see a pass rusher on the roster and advocates selecting a young quarterback in the draft:

Obviously, this has to change next season. The Chiefs can’t sell the myth that their pass-rush specialist is currently on the roster developing. He’s not. They’re going to have to find him in the draft.

Herm Edwards on the decision to go for the touchdown late in the game:

"It wasn’t real hard for me," Edwards said. "Fourth and 5. I just felt that if we didn’t score, we would pin them back and we would have a chance to stop them and they’d have a chance to punt."

Adam Teicher says there are comparisons between the Chiefs decision to go for two against San Diego and Sunday's 4th down attempt at a game winner:

Thigpen’s decision to run was rooted in an Edwards decision in the final seconds of last month’s loss to San Diego. The Chiefs scored a touchdown in the final seconds to pull within a point, and Edwards ordered the Chiefs to try for a game-winning two-point conversion.

Thigpen looked for Gonzalez, who was held up at the line. Thigpen tried an ill-advised pass rather than scramble for the two points and the Chiefs lost by a point.

The Broncos 3rd down conversions, especially on the last drive, makes me want to pull my hair out. Teicher again:

Their inability to get much of a pass rush cost them twice on Denver’s final possession. Jay Cutler passed 19 yards to Brandon Marshall on third and 10 from the Denver 1. On third and 9 from the 21, Cutler had time to throw to Tony Scheffler for 11 yards. That took the game to the 2-minute warning.

Well, I hope when you are the one most responsible for the Chiefs about to shatter a 27 year old Hall of Shame record for sacks I'd be upset too.

Hali admitted it’s getting to him, but he also admitted it has been that kind of year for Kansas City.

"It’s been a long season," he said.

Let's end on a positive note:

WR Dwayne Bowe has 137 receptions and 1,842 receiving yards, the highest reception and receiving yardage totals by any player in his first two seasons with the Chiefs.

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Waters comment

After the season this team has had, maybe close isn’t so bad.

"I’ll take that any day," Waters said, "over being blown out."

Soooo…0-16 as long as there aren’t blow-outs is OK? And before I start getting flamed understand that Waters is justifying the “close” loss using “any day” as a comment. To me, that’s a sign of a having given up the season at 2-12.
Waters just lost some leadership brownie points in my book.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 8, 2008 12:36 PM CST reply actions

depends

I read “close” as meaning “it was won or lost on one (or two) play(s)” as in “we were in the game and had a chance to win”. Considering so many of our recent losses beat the spread (often by a considerable margin) and had examples of single plays that could have won or tied it for us.

I’ll take those losses any day compared to being walloped by a Buffalo side that has failed to score more than 3 points for the following two games.

Blame my wife!

by sir eccles on Dec 8, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

I see your point

But I’m reading this as “justifying losses” from the aspect of “since we’re losing already, I’d rather lose by a lot less point differential”. Instead I’d like to hear him saying “these losses are much closer and we’re closer to a win then being blown out, a loss is a loss and it hurts the same”

“I’ll take that any day” …is a compromising position.

He feels he’s done IMHO and to be sure, if he didn’t play a snap the next 4 games….he’s going to be back on the squad next year and he knows it.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 8, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions

It Is What It Is

Waters is just being honest that if the team’s going to lose, he’d rather it not be embarassed as well. I wouldn’t ding him too much for that because he’s been doing his best this season and has shown up for the games.

But I agree that it sounds like he’s given up on the year. If your defense can’t stop anyone and your offense is now struggling to put up points on a rotten defense missing its best player, really what can you say?

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 8, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not doggin his play

….I’m looking at the man’s mindset. He’s done for the year and if I were to guess where his mind is it would be that:
He should finish healthy, have a relaxing off-season….maybe head to Vegas for New Years, then the Caribbean for a couple of weeks and stay somewhere warm until traiing camp starts.
Then, he’ll hold out the first couple of weeks (since he’s a vet), stroll in and get back into shape for ’09.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 8, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions

Can't Really Blame Him

It happens to every bad team at the end of the year…once they’ve got nothing to play for the players are more interested in not getting hurt. The attitude might be different if the Chiefs were 0-13 and trying to avoid 0-16, but at worst they’re just another 2-14 team who nobody’s paying attention to so why kill themselves for a shot at 3-13 or 4-12?

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm's a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 8, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions