If Pioli is the man Clark wants he better get a move on. I wish I knew who all he was looking at for GM. Baltimore and Pittsburgh are in the playoffs. Maybe there are people in those organizations that he is targeting. I just hope he can make a decision SOON! This organization is in dire need of some direction. NEW direction.

Just because the Browns were the first to get there to talk to him doesn’t mean they will acquire him. It may be a bad thing for them. If they are indeed interviewing coaches before they even get a new GM, how do you think Pioli will view that? That means that he doesn’t have a say in who the new HC is right? So automatically he doesn’t have complete control of the GM side. They are also not wanting to wait for an answer either. Today or else? How does that sit with him? Do you guys think that Pioli hasn’t already decided on which team he wants to GM?

It would be a completely opposite situation when he talks to Clark, wouldn’t it. No pressure, think about it, you have complete control and bring in your own staff.

Proves exactly why the GM job in KC should be considered by any sane person far more desirable than Cleveland. As stated above by oldchiefsfan, they’re interviewing coaches before they even have a GM in place (although they are interviewing the guy that everyone seems to think Pioli will bring with him). That shows me that the organization is not willing to cede total control to the new GM. Also, Cleveland is trying to strong arm the man who has all the options in the world. Cleveland is hardly the most desirable franchise to go to. The city is dying. The employment base (and therefore, potential revenue base) is weaker than any other available market excluding Detroit. And yet they have the cajones to DEMAND that a guy who has been the most sougth after GM prospect in the last three years make a decision by the end of the day?!?!?! You gotta be kidding me. But there are so many other reasons why KC is the MOST attractive GM position available:

1. The chance to bring in a franchise QB yourself and put your own stamp on the team early.

2. The patience that Clark has shown in NOT firing Herm YET. He will let the new GM have his choice of keeping or dumping Herm. That patience is also something the new GM will be able to look at as attractive when it comes to his own job, too.

3. Speaking of his own job, the very fact that we held onto Carl Peterson for 19 years shows that our ownership is willing to give a long tenure to a GM in order to produce results.

4. Money. We have more cap space than anyone. We have boatloads of young talent that will emerge as stars over the next few seasons.

http://cle.scout.com/2/826162.html

How much do you think Crennel has to do with any of this?

If Pioli does indeed come in I’d expect to see McDaniels as HC and Crennel serving possibly as DC. If they brought in Cassel things would get interesting and fast in Cleveland.

Lerner has also set up interviews with New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, Tennessee defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, who spent three years in the Browns’ personnel department as a pro and college scout in the 1990s, and Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, a Canton, Ohio, native.

Lerner also received permission to interview Atlanta president Rich McKay, who was bumped upstairs last year but is said to be craving a return to a GM-type role. That interview is expected to place Thursday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=3803143

What am I not understanding about no contact with personnel?

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Hey fellow Chiefs fans…don’t worry there are lots of excellent GM prospects out there. I.E. Mark Ross just to name one. Seriously though there are several good GM Prospects out there right now…HELLO!! And Herm who? For any of you that still hold out hope for Herm maybe deserves a chance, maybe he will be ok etc…..WAKE UP!! Seriously. Let go of the emotion and turn on your I.Q. switch. Your probably the same lego heads who got a twinge of excitement at the mention of Bill Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer coming here in any capacity. NO NO NO!! The NFL is going thru a regime change. Happens every generation. Age makes this inevitable. The Cowhers, the Vermeils’s and yes the Schottenheimers have all had their day. Why do you want to put fresh paint on a condemned building? Their done. They had their day. Hell why don’t we let Bill C. and Marty have a Wii bowling tournament to see who gets to come to KC. Listen, if nothing changes….“NOTHING CHANGES”. We need to get out of the ‘lets recycle’ thinking mode here in kc. Why don’t we bring Joe Montana back and fire Thigpen. And Marty can be our GM and Bill Cowher can coach and Len Dawson can be our scout director and Marcus Allen can replace Larry Johnson and Methuselah can take over the Owner position…LISTEN NIMRODS.. If you want to be a team of the future then you gotta start with youth. I.E. the tampa bay devil rays..Listen..young players cost less and have more to offer. Their fresh, their healthy and their eager. Their hungry. They have something to prove. Their not beat to death from years of abuse in this league. Their CHEAP!! We need a whole new young staff from the top down. A fresh very young GM and a young coach and a young team. If you don’t grab the hot young brains before they become the next belichek’s, then their gone forever. No one is gonna get Belichek out of New England now. THey got him first. Grab these young guns with their fresh new ideas. New offensive and defensive schemes and let em’ go crazy. Look at what Miami did with that direct snap to the running back play. Geez, are ya kiddin’ me? The whole NFL freaked on that shit like it was some new discovery. College has been doin’ weak crap like that for 30 years. The NFL needs a mover and a shaker to come along and break the rules. Live on the edge a little and make this game more exciting. The chiefs are in a perfect position to be the team to do that. We got a young new excited owner. Now let’s keep the trend going.

Before anyone gets offended let me just say; I am not disrespecting great coaches like Marty or Bill C or Vermeil. It’s just that we KC fans have been subjected to 20 years of a retarded philosiphy that goes something like this; We didn’t win the Superbowl this year so we better hurry and panic and buy a veteran or two that are in their last years and let’s patch together a team and pray for a one time win. Yes KC needs to change it’s attitude about building a winning team. You can’t bring in Joe Montana when he’s too old to last and expect to have a solid franchise winning team. THere’s no future there. It’s all about the instant gratification. But there’s no substance there. There’s no foundation at all. But that’s what we do here in KC. We did it with Vermeil too. We ran out and tried to grab some defensive players (veterans) from other teams that were old and over the hill. Not that they didn’t contribute, but look at the results. NO SUPERBOWL. And worse…no future. Where are they now? We are always looking for the quick fix. The flash in the pan. We keep trying to patch and plug worn out tires. We need to do what we’re doing now. Keep drafing young guys and hire young coaches and GM and office personnel. Chemistry takes years to build. YEARS!! That’s why Brett Favre, even though he had some brilliant moments because he is amazing, couldn’t get it done in NY. He hasn’t played with those guys long enough to build trust and to get in each other’s heads. If we keep bringing in old guys who have never played here and we sign them to one and two year contracts we will never succeed. Time has proven this…we suck. By the time these veteran players start to get in sync with one another..they retire. On the other hand if we let all these young guys start their careers here and continue to work together until they click as a team, as a unit and build that chemistry with one another, then they will have years to play still and only get better together. That’s how dynasties are built.

I agree with everything you said krayfish…but that’s what it seems like Herm is doing. I’m no Herm enthusiest but it’s not his fault that he is nearly 2 years behind his rebuilding plan. He wanted to do that when he first got here but Petersen wanted the quick fix. I agree with Herm that we have laid a great foundation for our team and it can only get better from here. Have another great draft and pick up a few younger veterans that haven’t gone over-the-hill and we can be a MUCH better team than we were this year, and I think Herm can do it…what he wanted to do from the get-go.

People say Herm sucks…but it’s not totally his fault. It’s his fault by him being the coach but he had someone behind him saying no to a rebuild until there was no other alternative. I’d just like to see where it goes with him. The players really like him and admire him and listen to him and, most importantly, learn from him. If he can show in this next year (God willing the new GM likes Herm’s direction) then I can almost garentee that things will be different. Herm has a great eye for draft picks. No one can deny that. I’m just a guy riding the fences on where the Cheifs is going because my voice doesn’t have a say in the matter, but I look at and listen to, not the win/loss statistic but what the players are doing, what they think about their coach, and how they are progressing. Herm is a good coach and more people would be behind him if he did this from the start. It probably would’ve fared better for him but…here we are and nothing can change that. I am fully behind Petersen leaving, but Herm…I would like him to stay but I will also give the new coach a chance to prove himself if that is what the new GM wants. I also hope that Clark lays it all out and gives Pioli what he wants under the terms that we are rebuilding and not patchworking. We’re making a dynasty here…one that will shine through the ages, and it can and will happen as long as the rebuild is seen though.