Chiefs to Pick Third in the 2009 NFL Draft
by Chris Thorman on Dec 28, 2008 4:27 PM CST
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It's official. The Kansas City Chiefs' loss to the Bengals and the St. Louis Rams' loss to the Falcons today means the Chiefs will pick third in the first round of the 2009 NFL draft.
Here is the break down leading up to how we got the #2 pick, courtesy of cdcox of Chiefs Planet and NFL Forecast. The draft order scenarios reference what had to happen in order for the Chiefs to get the #2 overall pick, if both the Chiefs and Rams lost.
We lose to Cincinnati and St. Louis loses to Atlanta and we get at least 5 of the SOS games below to go our way.
We lose to Cincinnati and St. Louis loses to Atlanta and we get 4 of the SOS games below to go our way and we win a coin toss.
SOS refers to strength of schedule, which is the tie breaker used to see what team gets the higher pick. It's the total win/loss ratio of all of a team's 2008 opponents.
Here are those SOS games and their winners that mattered for the Chiefs to secure the #2 pick this weekend.
Giants over Minnesota
Tampa over Oakland
Indy over Tennessee
SF over Washington
Chicago over Houston
The Giants lost; the Raiders beat Oakland; Indianapolis won; Chicago lost and the 49ers and Redskins are still playing. We needed four of those winners and so far we only have one.
Remember the Chiefs and Rams, because of the tie, will alternate the #2 and #3 picks in each round.
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Brad-ford...Brad-ford...Brad-ford...
Or a d-lineman, o-lineman, or linebacker. Great thing about picking third is that we’re going to get one hell of a player.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 28, 2008 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
F- drafting a QB!
LB or DE (pref a LB[M]) then OL.
by Dustin SLO,CA on Dec 28, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford's going #1
Please please no Stafford.
by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 28, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
No on Stafford. I only want Bradford because I believe he’s as close to a guaranteed franchise guy as you’re going to find. But if he’s not available we’ve got plenty of other holes to fill.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 28, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We get the 2nd pick in round 2, right?
Alex Mack!
by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 28, 2008 4:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think so
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Dec 28, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
If he’s our BPA, then I’d be fine with that.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 28, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
I’m assuming you did a quick google search.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 28, 2008 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHA
That was my first thought!
by Dustin SLO,CA on Dec 28, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with that
Niswanger looked overmatched all day today.
by TheQ on Dec 28, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think theres very little difference between late first round picks
and early second round picks
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Dec 28, 2008 4:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
On a seperate note...
pretty nice to see Dallas shit the bed with the playoffs on the line.
by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 28, 2008 4:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did I tell ya'll I cant stand Jerry Jones?
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Dec 28, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Off subject
I am sitting here listening to NFL Net and the press conferences. Drew Brees said about QB’s, “its about finishing the game”. Jeff Garcia said, “I apologize to my teammates and the fans”. John Gruden said, He felt sorry for the players and the fans". Funny how taking responsibility sounds when you hear it.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Dec 28, 2008 4:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Real men take responsibility for their actions. Doesn't make you any less of a man/player/coach.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Dec 28, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
funny you mention that
As a fireman, I see some of the worst things you can imagine, but when kids are involved, all of us “macho men” become “big babies” with the tears. You just cant help it.
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Dec 28, 2008 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for serving the community
I have met and trained a number of firefighters in scuba diving. Fine bunch of folks….funny as hell. NO, you DO NOT invert your air tank when scuba diving. The “first stage” is pointed upwards. Hard to change a habit :)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Dec 28, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We have had laughs at that
However, a former Chief and certified diver of mine, did prove to us once that you could dive in the SCBA outfit we use. He didnt go below 10 feet though. He said he wasnt that dumb…lol
Being a former swimmer, I had thought about the dive rescue team, but I keep getting older and things arent as enticing anymore…lol
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Dec 28, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine what it looked like...very funny
I wonder if his reg. got wet? LOL.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Dec 28, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Chris
I went to the SBN Lions blog to see who they might be considering for the #1 overall pick, and not to be picking, but their fans seem to have given up long ago. It didn’t seem like they much care who they take? It was like walking through a ghost town. I can see what you mean about how good a site we have here at AP.
by TheQ on Dec 28, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can You Blame Them
The problem with that team is the owner…and he’s never going to get fired.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 28, 2008 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No I can't, I honestly feel sorry for them.
There was a link to an article on Ford about how he has been worse for Professional Football than Michael Vick and Al Davis combined.
It does appear that they are staying in house with Mayhew getting the GM duties. How would you feel if you were a Lions fan and they didn’t completely clean house?
by TheQ on Dec 28, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just read some of their posts...it really is sad
One guy mentioned that now they’ll be known for something other than unemployment, repo’s and crime.
And for a reality check: To put it in perspective…we’re only 2 wins better then them this year.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.
Thigpen WILL NOT be the Chiefs starting QB next year IMO. He can compete for the job and should be 2nd or 3rd string.
by THE_TRUTH on Dec 28, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
There were posts on the main page from months ago. Sometimes a fanpost won’t last hours on AP.
And yeah, 2 wins better is nothing to be proud of. I think that there is no better motivator than fear of failure.
by TheQ on Dec 28, 2008 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Think Mayhew Will End Up Doing A Decent Job
Millen was completely incompetent and had no qualifications whatsoever to be running that football team. Mayhew’s put a lot of work in and he’s made the most of the few opportunities he’s had to fix things in season.
Looking back at it, can you say that he didn’t completely fuck the Cowboys for three good draft picks with that Roy Williams deal? Williams has been a complete bust this year at WR for the Cowboys.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 28, 2008 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It might go down as one of the most lop-sided deals in NFL history
Too early to call, but it seems like the Lions more than got their price. That is what scare me about Mayhew, he is supposed to be making all the football decisions, and he seems to be way too smart to pass on Bradford? I know I should get over it, we are going to get a good play regardless, but I really want us to have a chance at a Franchise QB. I want us to perennially compete for a Championship.
by TheQ on Dec 28, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But they also have the same needs we do…offensive line, defensive line and linebacker. Their defense is beyond horrible and Dan Orlovsky has actually had some pretty decent games as a QB so they may pass on Bradford to grab Oher or Monroe or Michael Johnson or any of the top talents.
You’re right…we’re going to get a great player out of this draft that will fit our needs. And that’s a good thing, especially with a GM other than Peterson picking him and a coach other than Herm training him.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 28, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen Brother.
Hope for the future at last!
by TheQ on Dec 28, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They could always do some of the things we would consider
Like go after Cassel in FA and grab Oher or another killer O-lineman to protect him.
I think that may actually be smart of them. If they take a QB up front and don’t have the line to protect him… that poor guy won’t stand much of a chance.
I’m interested in seeing what Mayhew does though.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 28, 2008 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It'll Be An Interesting Offseason
I just want the Chiefs to get a good GM in place soon, though…and with the Patriots missing the playoffs (with an 11-5 record, weirdly enough) Pioli’s fair game now.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 29, 2008 8:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I know
They left the site a long time ago. Sucks for Sean over there at POD, who does a good job.
by Chris Thorman on Dec 29, 2008 7:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he did have some nice stuff
that nobody seems to appreciate. I like the game graphics he was using. Pretty cool. I have a guy who works for me who is a Detroit fan and he is so crushed he doesn’t know what to do. It better never get that bad with us!
by TheQ on Dec 29, 2008 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Think We'll Be In Good Shape
And the one bright spot about having a bad owner is that nobody lives forever. And William Clay Ford isn’t exactly young…and his son appears to be a lot more results-oriented than his dad (his son was the one who pushed for Millen’s firing this year by saying he would have canned him three years ago).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 29, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True, our owner is starting to show some really promising
signs of leadership. And I do hope Detroit someday get’s it turned around, because you are only as strong as your weakest link, and for all the franchises in the NFL to be strong is a good thing for the league. I think you were spot on about Mayhew. He will be light years ahead of Millen for Detroit. Millen was a joke.
by TheQ on Dec 29, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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