Morning Update (Will Shields Edition)

by Chris on Dec 2, 2008 7:46 AM CST in Article Updates

Make sure you head over to MHR to help answer questions from Bronco fans. Larry Johnson highlights from last week are in the video above.

Will Shields will enter the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame.

More wild speculation from WPI about Herm Edwards' future.

C.E. Wendler- "I’d love to sit here and wax poetic about the greatness of Tony Gonzalez, the clutch play of Tyler Thigpen, the tough running of Larry Johnson, the surprising pass rush from Kansas City’s front four and the vicious hitting from the Chiefs’ back seven, but it would feel completely irresponsible."

The Chiefs were by far the biggest sports television draw in Kansas City last weekend, which makes me wonder about people who continually talk about blackouts. It ain't happening.

Denver may be able to plug in any running back into their system but that doesn't mean they last long.

Catch up on the Broncos at Mile High Report, who has lots of links posted.

Cris Collinsworth- "I may end up surprising you with what I think of the Chiefs but I actually think they’re doing some smart things."

I guess being a slimeball is part of the job of being an NFL agent.

And we end with the Top 10 dumbest self-inflicted injuries by athletes.

Throwing out some stats later this morning. Make sure you come back and check them out. I would have had that post up by now but I "slept in" until 6:45 today and didn't have time.

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That Edwards To Tampa Story Doesn't Even Make Sense

Tony Dungy hasn’t been the coach in Tampa Bay for seven years. That’s Gruden’s show and as far as I know Herm Edwards doesn’t have any serious ties to Gruden and nobody’s going to be lining up to pay Herm big bucks to be a defensive coordinator when he’s never been a coordinator anywhere else and he’s currently got one of the worst defenses in the NFL. And why would he jet early for a demotion? I could see Herm running to college (personally, I think he’d be a crap college coach) but taking a lower echelon job in the NFL? Not a chance.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 8:09 AM CST 0 recs

I think he'd be fine in college

A decent recruiter, at least, which is half the battle.

Why would he jet early? I sincerely doubt he would unless his job were in serious danger which obviously its not.

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 8:17 AM CST up 0 recs

As For Collinsworth

He’s been off his game lately. He apologized on “Football Night In America” for being so far off about what caliber of team the Jets were.

"Tyler Thigpen’s done all right from what I’ve seen. Is he the absolute answer at quarterback? I don’t know.

Generic observation…doesn’t really say anything that any casual observer hasn’t said.

I think Glenn Dorsey has to be a little better than what he’s been.

So in other words, he thinks Dorsey’s not playing all that great. While I disagree with him about Dorsey, I wonder what he would think about that in context of all of Herm’s other first day draft picks who have struggled to develop (Tyler, McBride, Croyle, Hali)?

And Larry Johnson has to be the cornerstone and has to get his act together off the field. If those things happen, they can get it turned around.

Blah, blah, blah…same thing every national pundit who doesn’t watch this team very closely has said. Collinsworth didn’t make a single observation that struck me as anything other than him trying to be optimistic with an off-the-cuff comment about a team he’s only paid passing attention to.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 8:21 AM CST up 0 recs

Representing Your Client's Best Interests Is The Job Of A Good Agent

Drew Rosenhaus’ job is to stick up for his client and do what he can to keep Plaxico out of prison, especially since Plaxico didn’t do anything actually criminal in this situation. He broke a bullshit law championed by a bullshit mayor and shot himself in the leg. That doesn’t merit a prison sentence, it merits ridicule, regardless of what Mayor Bloomberg (one of the worst mayors in America as far as I’m concerned) has to say about it.

He did hurt the Giants, but the appropriate punishment for that would be voiding his contract and recouping the money he’s cost them with his stupidity (which they appear to be doing). And that’s got nothing to do with New York’s city government.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 8:26 AM CST 0 recs

My Point Being

If Rosenhaus didn’t stand up for his client, then he’d be a scumbag. As it stands now, he’s doing what a good agent is supposed be doing…trying to help his client keep his money and defending the person he’s obligated to defend.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting something evil.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 8:30 AM CST up 0 recs

He is a scumbag

…but not because of this. Rosenhaus only cares about his 5-10% cut.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 8:34 AM CST up 0 recs

Oh, I agree

That’s definitely what he’s doing and that’s the right thing. Let’s not forget that Rosenhaus has some financial incentives here as well. What is Burress, 30 years old? He may have another contract for Rosenhaus to get rich off of.

As for jail time, I have no clue how in the world he’ll get out of this. At best, I’ve heard they can plead to a class D felony which would put him at 2 years minimum.

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 AM CST up 0 recs

There's No Other Contract

Burress got his extension after the Super Bowl and that’s it. The Giants foolishly (in my opinion) overpaid him considering his history of injuries and attitude problems. So Rosenhaus has gotten all the money out of Burress he’s probably going to get.

And I didn’t say that Rosenhaus wasn’t acting out of self-interest. We all do that. Just that it doesn’t make him a scumbag for doing his job.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:26 AM CST up 0 recs

Keep in mind that it's not all about Plexico

Future clients are going to look at how Rosenhaus handled this situation when determining which agent to go with. That was part of my 5-10% comment…Jerry Maguire-esque

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 10:34 AM CST up 0 recs

I Kept That In Mind Too

Like I said, acting out of self-interest doesn’t make Rosenhaus a scumbag. Promising to represent a client’s best interests, then letting that client take a fall because you couldn’t be bothered to do the job you promised…that would make Rosenhaus a scumbag.

Caveat: There are plenty of other reasons to call Rosenhaus a scumbag. The Plaxico situation just isn’t one of them.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:40 AM CST up 0 recs

agreed

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 10:44 AM CST up 0 recs

Not to defend Plaxico

If you also look at the facts he had a license to carry a concealed weapon (Florida gave him the license) that was supposedly going to expire in November. Had he not had a license at all than it could be considered intent to carry/malicious intent. Absolutely agree with the assessment on Bloomberg…he’s using this as a podium for personal chest thumping. There are plenty of thugs in NY that are busted every day for carrying without a license.

They’ll get their money back and release him. His career is over but mainly due to his attitude and lack of being a “teammate”

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 8:31 AM CST up 0 recs

He had a FL permit that expired in May of 2008

Which still doesn’t help him in NY. FL permit isn’t good in NY.

He knew what he was doing was illegal, no doubt about it. His wife is even an attorney. That doesn’t mean I don’t think the law is ridiculous…

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 AM CST up 0 recs

I heard on ESPN it was May that it expired but that he could have up to 6 months to renew...ergo...Nov. before it was considered illegal to carry.

I understand about the Fl. vs. NY. being different jurisdictions however I think they’ll look at the fact that he was licensed and spin it that this was within the timeframe to renew. He’ll get a fine and community service since there are not previous convictions.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 8:43 AM CST up 0 recs

I don't think so

When the mayor of the most media-driven city in the country publicly calls for prosecution the DA’s office will do everything it can to do that. And, really, it shouldn’t be that hard. Bloomberg set those laws in so guys like Benjamin Brafman can’t have another P Diddy incident.

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 9:06 AM CST up 0 recs

And I'm Not Defending Burress' Behavior

I think the guy’s an idiot personally and he should have to pay back the money for doing something that stupid and irresponsible. I just think the law’s b.s., he’s getting railroaded because he’s a celebrity, and his agent is not a scumbag for trying to defend him.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:33 AM CST up 0 recs

I don't think anyone would think you were

I think most are assessing this from the “act” perspective first and foremost, however I also believe that considering his past behavior there aren’t too many that’ll be too heartbroken over a suspension or how the law handles this. It’s more of “looking in through the out door”.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 10:36 AM CST up 0 recs

They Should Be Upset About How The Law Handles This

If Plaxico’s gun had gone off and hit someone else, fine…I’d say charge him with a felony and throw him in jail. When he’s only shot himself, it should be at worst, a misdemeanor and a fine and he should get his name splashed across Page 6 for being a dumbass.

When you cause direct harm to other people with your actions, you’re a criminal. When you only cause direct harm to yourself, you’re just an idiot.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:43 AM CST up 0 recs

And It's Not A Crime To Be An Idiot If You're Only Harming Yourself

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:43 AM CST up 0 recs

Yes it is

That’s why Plaxico is being charged.

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 11:14 AM CST up 0 recs

Suicide is still a crime

I just don’t know who would get charged if it was successful

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 2, 2008 11:17 AM CST up 0 recs

Suicide May Be Against The Law

But it’s not a crime. And the fact that there’s rarely anyone to charge (excepting a Dr. Kevorkian) is why it’s such a ridiculous law.

If a rational person decides they want to kill themselves, they should be able to do so without the government feeling a need to step in and punish people for that.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 11:22 AM CST up 0 recs

I'll have to take two steps back and slap myself on that one

Suicide may be against the law, but is not a crime? Is that possible?

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 2, 2008 11:26 AM CST up 0 recs

Yeah

You can stick the body in prison but the smell from the corpse is hard to muster.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 11:32 AM CST up 0 recs

I Should Probably Define My Terms

Crime – an act perpetrated against another person or their property without their consent predicated on violence, the threat of violence, fraud or coercion.

Illegal – an act that violates a law or statute on the books.

An act can be illegal without being criminal (and vice versa). For example, Jim Crow made it illegal for black people to sit at the front of a public bus. But sitting at the front of a bus is not a crime. With this case, New York’s law makes it illegal for Plaxico Burress to own a firearm without the state’s consent. But owning a firearm is not in itself a crime (nor is shooting yourself with one, since you’re not perpetrating an act of violence against another person or their property).

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 11:37 AM CST up 0 recs

It's a crime to own a handgun w/o a permit

bad law but it’s still the law

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 3, 2008 9:25 AM CST up 0 recs

Regardless of your feelings on Bloomberg

What’s bullshit about the law? Get down with the 2nd Amendment all you like but in NYC, we’re cool with a little registration and restriction. Furthermore, in this particular situation the man’s worth over $25m, he can pay somebody to go register his damn gun.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Dec 2, 2008 10:38 AM CST up 0 recs

You're Cool With Registration And Restriction

That doesn’t mean everyone in NYC is. Nor does it mean the “majority” is right to take away everyone else’s guns just because they had a vote. The 2nd Amendment is in the Constitution for a valid reason.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:45 AM CST up 0 recs

I thought NYC has a conceal and carry law...

if thats the case, then shame on Plaxico for not applying for one. Its not like he just arrived in New York and its not like every gun owner doesn’t know that gun laws very state to state.

by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 2, 2008 11:00 AM CST up 0 recs

Agreed That He Was Irresponsible

I just think that shooting himself in the leg and losing a ton of money are sufficient punishment.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 11:03 AM CST up 0 recs

And Heller has upheld that

No one’s guns are being taken away by requiring registration, and yes the majority is right to require registration of guns if the majority votes for it. The Framers undoubtedly did not have Plaxico Burress in mind with the right to bear arms.

If Plax was packin in defiance of tyranny, he has our apologies.

Every other right in the Bill of Rights is is effected by statutory constraints why not in a city with a drugs and gun problem, in the nation with the highest gun crime rate in world, require registration to deter complete idiots from discharging firearms in crowded metropolises.

For the record we own a Mossberg 12 guage and it’s registered.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Dec 2, 2008 11:06 AM CST up 0 recs

Oh I'm Sure Plax Was Packing Because He's A Moron

And I’m familiar with Heller, although I still don’t see their decision going far enough.

I should probably state that I’m for more or less unlimited weapon ownership (except in the case of the mentally ill) so I recognize my viewpoint on that topic is more extreme than others’ here probably are.

Every other right in the Bill of Rights is is effected by statutory constraints why not in a city with a drugs and gun problem

Because the drug “problem” is primarily a result of drugs being illegal…not a result of the drugs themselves. And gun registration laws are only effective if you operate under the premise that criminals obtain their guns through legal means (which they generally don’t). Otherwise it’s just a tool designed to punish the lawabiding so politicians have a nebulous accomplishment to point to at election time to make the case that they’re “keeping us safe”.

in the nation with the highest gun crime rate in world

That frequently cited stat is actually misleading. It excludes third world and “developing” countries from their tally. Basically, it’s cherrypicked.

For the record we own a Mossberg 12 guage and it’s registered.

I can respect that. For the record, I don’t own any firearms at all. :)

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 11:17 AM CST up 0 recs

After reading some of the PARADEBULATIONS

Maybe the PARADE shouldn’t own a gun?

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 2:20 PM CST up 0 recs

Although I Agree With You About Plaxico Being Lazy In Regards To The Law

He acted stupidly and acting in his best interests he should have gotten the permit.

But he also shouldn’t have had to get a permit.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way.

by UCrawford on Dec 2, 2008 10:47 AM CST up 0 recs

A slef inflicted sports injury list...

and no mention of Solider Winslow on a motorcycle or Jeff Kent “washing” his truck? Shameful.

by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 2, 2008 8:29 AM CST 0 recs

Nice spelling, meat gazer

by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 2, 2008 8:30 AM CST up 0 recs

Sammy Sosa's sneeze?

by primetime 07 on Dec 2, 2008 8:39 AM CST up 0 recs

I berry berry happi to be here.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 8:43 AM CST up 0 recs

LJ

He’s so much more of a factor when running to the outside for a large gain instead of up the middle. Given, when a few yards are necessary to punch it in the endzone, running up the middle full speed makes sense.
He sooooo rarely breaks for the hash marks from the backfield that I cannot believe they haven’t been pushing him more to do just that.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 2, 2008 8:39 AM CST 0 recs