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Getting to Know a GM: Floyd Reese

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Wait...is that Floyd Reese or Rick Majerus?

via www.phoenixclubofnashville.org

Floyd Reese brings several valuable attributes to the table when talking about the Chiefs GM job.  His experience combined with his track record of success (and apparent interest in the job) make him an intriguing candidate. 

He is a former All-American defensive tackle for UCLA.  His rise in the NFL included several stops that make him an interesting candidate for us to look at.

Assistant coach at UCLA and Georgia Tech.  Do Carl's ties to UCLA matter?  Um, no.  Interesting nonetheless.

Strength and conditioning coach for Detroit and San Francisco.  We've harped on the S&C staff of the Chiefs since the Chiefs have shown the ability to disappear in third quarter and crucial parts of the fourth quarter.

Linebackers/Special Teams coach for Minnesota/Houston Oilers.  He eventually became the defensive coordinator for the Vikings but the fact that he's worked with linebackers and special teams before, both weaknesses of the Chiefs, begs the question of whether he's a legitimate specialist (as opposed to a Gunther "specialist) in that area and can bring in players that will fill our needs.

In 1994 he was elevated to the status of General Manager for the Titans. He held this position until 2006.  His first (and probably best) move was to hire Jeff Fisher who is still currently the head coach. Some major moves include drafting Steve McNair and Eddie George.

In those 13 years he created an atmosphere of success tallying 111 wins, 1 Super Bowl appearance, 2 AFC Championship game appearances, 4 playoff appearances and 5 playoff victories.  While most of his success came during the 1999-2003 seasons, his track record speaks for itself.

Reese has been doing work for ESPN since his departure from Tennessee in 2006.  Back in February, he wrote an article that listed who he thought was the 5 best talent evaluators in the NFL.  No surprise here: Bill Belichick (Patriots), Ozzie Newsome (Ravens), Bill Polian (Colts), A.J. Smith (Chargers) and Ted Thompson (Packers). 

He also gave his top priorities for a talent evaluator which includes the ability to identify a player (experience at the position is needed), put a team together ("unless you have worked the process several times, the chances of success are slim."), and make the tough decision (even if it's unpopular).

In an interview with the New York Times prior to the 2007 NFL draft, Reese described the process of filling holes once the season has started.  First, he says you retain your own guys.  Second, enter free agency and plug holes there.  Third, address remaining holes in the draft.  It seems easy enough, but this is a process that was lost on our Carl Peterson.

Very much like Herm, Reese places an emphasis on character.  This statement is very telling:

Character is the main reason a sixth-round draft choice can become the league MVP. High-character players are aware of their value and they understand exactly what is expected from them. Of all of the intangibles, character allows teams to hit on a sixth-round pick, but it is also capable of making a first-round picks a bust.

It's especially telling for a guy that selected Pacman Jones.  He's got the right idea behind character guys, but his past history indicates he's whiffed big before.

The big knock against Reese is his inability to manage the cap.  As WPI put it, "He nearly bankrupted the Titans and only this year have they been in a position to free themselves of the numerous big time contracts that crippled the franchise."  Sound familiar?

He's been linked to the GM job in Detroit.  In fact, he lobbied for the job earlier this year:

"If I had Williams Clay Ford's number, you'd be hearing a dial tone right now. I'm in a unique situation. I've been in the league 32 years. ... I could be in Detroit tomorrow.

"One of the real uncut gems in the NFL is Detroit. It has a great owner. He's got a lot of money. He wants to win very badly, and he's not one of those guys that's on the sidelines. He just wants to find someone that can help him win."

Except that the Ford's have had a terrible franchise for decades and their current business is part of the big bailout.

More recently, Reese may have jumped the shark in assuming Cleveland GM Phil Savage would get the boot when he campaigned for the still-not-available Browns' GM job:

''When I look at organizations and potential jobs, you always look at do they have what it takes to win. That's an owner willing to invest, the facility, the stadium, the fan base,'' Reese said. ''Cleveland's got all of that."

While his tact can be questioned for lobbying for a job that isn't yet available, his track record of success makes him an intriguing candidate in the NFL.

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There’s a reason that he hasn’t been picked before now as someone’s GM. He’s been campaigning for a job since the Titans let him go.

He’s not the worst possible hire, but I think he’s reached his ceiling and he should be low on the list.

A GM should be given no less than five years on the job to prove his ability. After that he should be removed if it's been more than 2 years since his team made the playoffs or more than three years since his team won a playoff game.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 17, 2008 12:15 PM CST reply actions  

His Ceiling

Is a Super Bowl appearance in the first 5 years with the Titans. Doesn’t sound too bad to me.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 17, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

But At What Cost?
He nearly bankrupted the Titans and only this year have they been in a position to free themselves of the numerous big time contracts that crippled the franchise.

I don’t want a GM who puts the team into a financial black hole making his Super Bowl run.

A GM should be given no less than five years on the job to prove his ability. After that he should be removed if it's been more than 2 years since his team made the playoffs or more than three years since his team won a playoff game.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 17, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Denny Thum handles the cap

He’s supposedly good at his job. What will that mean now that we’re separating football from business? Does Thum have a more active role in contract negotiations?

by Joel Thorman on Dec 17, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Somewhat, From What I Gather

But you’ll never be able to completely separate them. Part of being able to identify players you want is being able to identify players you’ll also be able to afford. An ability to understand the hit of a contract on the cap is still essential for a GM.

A GM should be given no less than five years on the job to prove his ability. After that he should be removed if it's been more than 2 years since his team made the playoffs or more than three years since his team won a playoff game.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 17, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Marty

Maybe I am just nostalgic, but I think Marty deserves a good hard look for the GM job. Am I wrong? I have been so busy studying for finals that I didn’t even get the good news until this morning. It was like Christmas morning!

by ryan_andersen98 on Dec 17, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

Does he even have a background in player personnel?

Great coach, but I’m dubious as to whether he could be a GM.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 17, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

First, I predict Thum will end up CEO

Second, as far as Reese, I prefer to have a guy who still has hair to lose, nothing against bald guys (they get more head). I would prefer a little bit younger guy to grow with the team.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 17, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

Forget age

Lets just try to win. It’s not like you have to lay down with the guy every night LOL.

by GHOST OF DT on Dec 17, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

FACT

No bald guy has ever done anything ever.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 17, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Mark Dominik

Is emerging as my favorite. Doug Whaley sounds good too.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Dec 17, 2008 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

I've been in Nashville for the last 7 years or so

So I hear a lot about Reese on the radidio down here. There has been a helluva lot of buzz surrounding him recently due to some of the vacancies around the league at the GM spot.

Here is my hot beef injection to this conversation:

-As UC mentioned above, he wasn’t stellar at cap management. I think a lot of this was a result of grasping for one more shot at the superbowl. Much of the team that was built around the 1999-2000 run was lingering at this point. There was a lot of money tied up in McNair and the old regime.

-Word is he had to hit the road because him and Fisher were butting heads on a lot of issues. I’ve heard that Fisher eventually went to Bud Adams and it was sort of a “it’s him or me” kind of thing. So Reese has a bit of a rep for getting in the coaches business.

-As far as the bad character choices – Pac Man was a Fisher decision – he wanted him and lobbied Reese to get him. This was a situation where Reese gave the coach what he wanted, and it backfired badly. Fisher is a hard-ass and can handle most miscreants. Adam Jones is just in a league of his own as far as completely idiotic morons are concerned. So I don’t know if you can fault Reese’s character decisions on that pick. I can’t really think of anybody else that was as much as a fizzle-head as Jones from the Reese years.

In the end, I’d rather he not end up in KC, but I don’t think he would be terrible. I think he would do better than Carl and he’s certainly no Matt Millen. We could do worse, but we could also do better.

by Ochophosphate on Dec 17, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

Fair Assessment

And he’s not a horrible hire. I’d just prefer that the Chiefs go in a different direction. Can’t really explain why…perhaps it’s also an ageism thing on my part because I feel the same way about Casserly or Wolf. He was let go on the downside after his run, GMs don’t tend to get better as they get older, and nobody else seems all that keen on picking him up. All things considered I’d rather go with Marty or Pioli if they’re available.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Dec 17, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

that about sums up my view… though I don’t care much about his age.

by Ochophosphate on Dec 17, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It's Not So Much His Age

Well, it is, sort of. It’s more that I think a “fresh set of eyes” is more about bringing in someone with new ideas to the equation and Reese doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll be an innovator. He comes off to me as someone who’ll try and build a team just like he did in Tennessee but this time everyone will be expecting it so it’s not likely to be as successful as the Titans were at his high point.

The NFL adjusts to everyone eventually and if you’re not able to make adjustments to stay ahead of the curve eventually the game leaves you behind. And I think the lack of interest in Reese (who had a very good run in Tennessee) is a sign that he’s been left behind and most teams realize it.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Dec 17, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I Have The Same Reservations About Cowher And Schottenheimer, By The Way

Except it would be alleviated somewhat if Schottenheimer were GM and Cowher were coach because it changes up their dynamic a bit. Cowher’s always had flak with the GMs he worked with and Schottenheimer is one he probably wouldn’t fight with much. Schottenheimer’s always had an eye for talent but now he can utilize that more in a big picture sort of way.

But I will say that Big Blue’s column about Ross and Schwartz has me rethinking whether I’d want a Schottenheimer/Cowher combination or whether it would be better to try something totally different.

Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.

by UCrawford on Dec 17, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

New GM

The team could do worst but there are persons I’d rather have: Pioli, Chris Polian at the top.

by FrankPitts on Dec 17, 2008 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

Pioli has the resume but Polian has the tremendous upside in his favor. But I agree that either of these candidates would be awesome.

by ilamuku on Dec 17, 2008 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm hoping for someone totally younger

I like the thought of new blood. The younger and more inovative GM that can take us into the future. I don’t really have a preference between the ones mentioned on numerous posts, but I’d prefer it be a young buck.

by TXChiefan on Dec 17, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

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