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Carl Peterson Resignation Poll

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We'll be getting posts together tonight and tomorrow full of Carl Peterson coverage so for now, vote in the poll and continue your conversations here when the other thread gets full.

Poll
Do you approve or disapprove of Carl Peterson resigning effective the end of the 2008 season?
Approve
519 votes
Disapprove
23 votes

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Chris and PT, Thanks for the poll. This is exactly how he is to us now… just a shadow in our memories. I’m ready to see the chiefs start dominating the AFC west and for that matter the whole NFL. “and the home of the CHIEFS!”

"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today". James Dean

by Derrick*58*Liveson! on Dec 15, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

isnt there a margin of error??

I dont think anyone would vote opposite because AP keeps track of it…

by KC FAN IN CA on Dec 15, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

or TX fan, or NJ fan

or one of the other lotus eaters who believes that we’re just a player or two away

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Dec 15, 2008 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Easy man we are on the same side here.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

Be nice…the point of contention (Carl) is gone and all any of us care about now is that the Chiefs find someone who can get this team back on track.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

absolutely

let’s get to the promised land together

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I cannot BELIEVE

the amount of calls FROM ALL OVER the USA into 810. I have never seen so many long distance callers.

1 caller was sorry to see Carl leave….and he said it was because he was a Denver Bronco’s fan.

True story

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Espn Reports...

The New GM will make the final decision whether to resigned Herm or let him go after he’s contract is up… I know this should be another post but what’s the feeling should he stay or go?

"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today". James Dean

by Derrick*58*Liveson! on Dec 15, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Well

Clark said in this interview that he would ultimately make the final decision on whether Herm is retained.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 15, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

And I think blowing up everything immediately would set this team back even farther… But if the new GM finds a like-minded coach like Herm… who knows what his decision will be. The new GM will have a voice is what Clark also said.

As far as I’m concerned… One down.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

hey if yall are listeniing i was rich….on there?? ne body heard or remember me?? on the 810

by kcchiefsfan56 on Dec 15, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah man....good call. Can't wait for Clark's interview in 10 minutes on 101 the fox

Here’s the link folks:

http://player.cumulusstreaming.com/Audioplay.html?kcfx-FM

You might have to copy/paste the URL

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Herm should have grabbed that

SD state job, oh well I hear Tampa Bay is going to need a D-coordinator at the end of trhe season!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

I approve of this

to the extent that the next hire is a better GM than the former GM. Otherwise, we’re spinning our wheels, at best.

First time owner, first time GM hire…this could be dicey.

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Dec 15, 2008 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

Listening on 101 now.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

I do not know how soon though.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Lenny,Tony, and Clark

HEEEEEERE’s CLARK!!!

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

wow...300 people showed up for the show.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:09 PM CST reply actions  

I finally got it up on the web

Did I miss anything? Just tuned in and heard a bunch of people saying “Squish the Fish”

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

No not yet, just intros.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks EA

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

No,

it’s already over.

j/k

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

No problem!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

Clark is on.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:14 PM CST reply actions  

yes

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Dec 15, 2008 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

yes.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:15 PM CST reply actions  

External , yes!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:16 PM CST reply actions  

sweet!

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

yep...that would be a great acquisition

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Read between the lines

TG is happy!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

NO SHIT!!!! I haven't heard him this upbeat in a LONG time. And Clark reaffimed that TG is going to be part of this.

Maybe this means that TG will be wanting to stay now that Carl is gone.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Want To Hear An Atypical UCrawford Assessment

With Carl and Herm gone, if we don’t completely botch the hiring of their replacements I sincerely believe this team has a shot at .500 or better next year with the talent level on hand.

They just need a coach who knows how to utilize that talent.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't be done

…oh wait a sec, Miami is doing it and they were worse last year ;)

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you think it was going to stay long?

There are millions of people who’ve been waiting for this moment.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I already had my entry written. :)

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Herms on

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

Harm is on!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

Beat ya!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions  

He says it is inexperience

He is so self absorbed, takes no responsibility.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST reply actions  

Let's not get into us

on this night that has seen such great unity so far.

Let’s wait till tomorrow

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

If I have to.

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

We can

if you really want to. But it’s kind of the same old thing.

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Herm's Day Is A Comin'

So he can duck responsibility all he wants for the last two games, but his chief protector is gone and now he’s got a new guy who’ll be wondering why the hell the coaching staff never takes responsibility for its performance.

And new GMs like bringing in their own guy to run things…especially when the previous coach wins four games or less. That way they don’t have to keep suffering through the mistakes of the previous regime.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's not get into "This" not us

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I was with ya!:)

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

that could look kind of weird

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't want to get into either or you.

So it’s really a non-issue :)

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

PERVS!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

typo typo

nothing more :)

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess Carl

took the straight with him, lol.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Freaks come out at night!:)

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm in the eastern time zone

8:30 is still early though

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Yea,

needs to be more like 9-10… at the earliest.

I know I dont put my hose and high heels on until at least 11.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I am out fellas

Football is on!

At least 10-6 next year taking our division, or Herm goes.

by Eric Allen on Dec 15, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Oh snap,

it is monday. I completely forgot about that.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Its the freaking Eagles/Browns.

I’m not sure that’s worth my time.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

My fantasy playoff game is riding on it

opponent has Jamal Lewis and philly defense

I’m up by 25 points

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm only up by 5

and he has Westbrook…I need Shaun Rogers to roll over on his knee

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Dec 15, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm feeling good about my chances

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

knock on wood

watch Lewis run for 300 yards

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't know

Philly defense should score fairly well…however, jamal points take away points from his D

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Dec 15, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

that’s what I’m counting on.

The conflict of interest

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Somebody take that pic down of Carl

every time I scroll on this page I dry heave a little.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

+1

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I took it down

If you hit ‘actions’ under a picture, you can choose to hide it so there’s no loading time. Sometimes the PARADE can put up a lot of dolphin pictures so I have to hide them.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 15, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

5 Votes For "Disapprove"?

So that would be Carl, Gretz, Herm, Gunther and Krumrie?

I didn’t know they read our blogs :)

Ding, dong, the King is dead!!!

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

Holy shit

….I just remembered the Youtube with Adolph/Carl….Der Fuhrer is KAPUT!

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

A 3% approval rating so far from the poll

It’s like the man was President of the Country :)

What a losing legacy. I wonder if he’ll move from KC?

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

and I had to round up btw to ge the 3%

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Bush has a 11% rating

congress has 2%

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

we the people put them in charge

big difference

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh we kept him there with sellouts mind you...I'm sure that helped his 19 year stay

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

So Carl is better then Congress

that sucks

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

it's true

I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.

by KCking on Dec 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

just a year ago

Carl was #19 in a top 100 list of best GM’s in forbes…

http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/02/sports-greatest-gms-biz-cz_jg_0302gms_2.html

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet the vote wasn't from Chiefs fans

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

it was by Forbes, and it was based on measurable success.

have you seen my baseball?

by IISaiNtII on Dec 15, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Now where did I put that poll about Enron a few years back? ;)

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 16, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

"We" will take it to the next level next year

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Dec 15, 2008 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

He's comin' back

I Hope!!!!!

Why did I quit drinking?

by CMatthews on Dec 15, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

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