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Primetime jinxed us everyone. From the game thread in the third quarter:

Wow, This looks an awful lot like the Tampa game...

Yes, now it does look like the Tampa Bay game the Kansas City Chiefs lost earlier this year. Positive on the turnovers, big blown lead, lots of passing yards given up...

Talk about a game that leaves you speechless at the end. The Chiefs comfortably controlled the San Diego Chargers for literally 55 minutes only to disintegrate in the closing seconds. For much of the first half, I was using the word "meltdown" to describe the Chargers. Tempers ran high and the score ran low for San Diego. Unfortunately, it will be the Chiefs' meltdown that will be remembered most.

How the Chiefs lost in the final moments

I know some of you didn't get to see the game yesterday and are probably wondering how the final minutes broke down, so to speak. Here's a quick look.

4-1-SD 45 (6:12): The Chiefs elect to punt on fourth and short (about a half yard or so) and leave the game in the hands of a defense that had played splendidly so far. The punt made it to the eleven yard line and San Diego took over from there. The Chiefs are up 21 to 10.

4:55 to 1:13 left in the game: The Chargers drive 89 yards in 3:42 to score six points. The two-point conversion fails. 21 to 16, Chiefs.

Ensuing kick: Chargers' kicker Nate Kaeding kicks the ball to Dwayne Bowe, who catches the ball against his chest but has it knocked out by LB Antwan Applewhite. Chargers recover with 1:11 left, down by five points at their own 39 yard line.

1:13 to :37 left in the game: Philip Rivers immediately hits Vincent Jackson for a 42 yard reception. Pat Surtain is seen struggling to catch up on the play. The Chargers hammer it home from there in three more plays and the Chiefs are down 22 to 21.

Chiefs' final chance: Kevin Robinson returned the Chargers' kick to the KC 46 yard line. Tyler Thigpen ran for five more yards and passed to Tony Gonzalez for 12 more to get the Chiefs to the 37 yard line. An idiotic delay of game penalty by the Chargers bumped the Chiefs up to the 32 yard line. Connor Barth missed the 50 yard kick with no time left.

Chargers' yards by quarter

Here's a quick look at how the Chiefs' defense controlled the game until the final moments.

Q1: 35 yards (1 first down)
Q2: 71 yards (4 first downs)
Q3: 88 yards (6 first downs)

That's 194 yards through three quarters. Not too shabby.

Q4: 200 yards (11 first downs)

Boom. Game over.

It all comes down to the onside

If Dwayne Bowe hangs on to the onside kick that he had in his hands, the Chiefs almost assuredly win this football game. I suppose crazy stuff happens like that sometimes in the NFL.

Startling contrast between halves

I can't get this stat out of my head: The Chiefs had 18 first half first downs and only four in the second half. What? How? I don't know...

The Chiefs were actually able to score in the third quarter yesterday but consider it a gift from the Chargers. Pat Surtain picked off Philip Rivers early in the third and nearly ran it in. Thigpen ran a QB draw for the six points a play later.

Barth blew it twice

Early in the second quarter, Connor Barth missed a 34 yard field goal that would have put the Chiefs up 10 to 0. After missing a 50 yarder that would have won the game, I bet Barth was thinking he could have won the game twice yesterday.

A really nutty game overall

Despite the crushing sensation I felt at the end of the game, this contest was a lot of fun to watch.

Larry Johnson threw a first quarter touchdown pass.

After Connor Barth missed his first field goal in the second quarter, the Chiefs stripped the ball away from San Diego two minutes later; Thigpen threw a pick in the end zone a minute and a half after that; and then a minute and a half after that Bernard Pollard amazingly stripped the ball away from Vincent Jackson for another Chiefs' turnover.

All pro guard Kris Dielman was kicked out of the game in the second quarter for a phantom punch. Check it out here.

Overall

Like rock chalk mentioned yesterday, there really were more positives than negatives to take away from this game.

The Chiefs almost, almost put together a complete game on both sides of the ball. I know almost isn't really good for anything (especially in a loss) but the team was as close as it's been in 2008 to playing a balanced game.

The defense actually generated a pass rush this past weekend, which is the first step of course. Gotta have one game where you can pressure the QB. Sort of like the Chiefs and getting another win. You need to start feeling good somewhere.

I want to cheer for the positives more but our second half coaching keeps getting worse. It has to be tough for players to keep their chins up as evidence mounts each week of their coach's ineptitude in the third and fourth quarters.

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If any one of these plays had worked out, the Chiefs win.

2 missed FGs

Pick in the endzone (3 or 7 less points)

Onside kick

Questionable challenge of Rivers over the line of scrimmage (no time outs on final drive).

Questionable call of endzone pass on 3rd and 1.

No one play cost us the game, all of these did. Like Primetime, when a friend at the bar asked how good I was feeling early in the fourth quarter, I told him I had 3 words for him. “Tampa Bay, Jets.”

by NJChiefsFan on Dec 15, 2008 9:46 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've been winning

and losing games like this since I’ve been a Chiefs fan, and I’m pretty sure I’ll die 7-10 years early because of it.

by NJChiefsFan on Dec 15, 2008 9:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My 1st ever game at Arrowhead

I saw us lose to the Chargers. Montana was driving to get us in FG range FTW, but time expired (we had wasted timeouts earlier that day).

It was cold as hell, raining and a loss. It was also awesome.

by NJChiefsFan on Dec 15, 2008 10:33 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See if this sounds familiar...
The Chargers’ offense did absolutely nothing in the first half.
In the second half, the Chargers took advantage of the Chiefs’ mistakes …
Actually, the Chiefs contributed to their own demise more than the Chargers did…

All that and the Chiefs lose to the Chargers by one. Read all about it here.

by NJChiefsFan on Dec 15, 2008 2:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would have

challenged Rivers being over the line of scrimmage. It was too close not to get it right, so I wouldn’t call it too “questionable”. As for the endzone pass on 3rd and 1, it was hard to watch but really not a bad call. Who would have guessed Herm would go for it all instead of jam LJ straight into the middle of the line? In retrospect we can say “it didn’t work” but it really wasn’t a bad call. Thiggy getting picked in the endzone wasn’t exactly surprising since he only targets Tony G down there. It was a bad pass and good play by the D, these things happen. Thiggy needs to find other options to throw to.

The others can’t be explained. Maybe D Bowe shouldn’t be on our “hands” team, he’s not exactly the most reliable of receivers. And the two missed fieldgoals? Inexcusable. I could see maybe, maybe missing the 50 yarder. But the 34 yarder? I wanted to vomit.

by Chiefs4Life on Dec 15, 2008 10:12 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wasn't watching,

so I don’t know about this. What I do know is that, on the radio, Mitch and Kendall talked about the wind down by the goalposts switching directions just before the 34-yard miss. Whether this happened or not, I have no idea; it’s a miss either way, but I’d be inclined to be slightly more forgiving if the wind thing is true.

As for the 50-yarder, (and again this is just from listening to the call on the radio), it sounded like that might have been the worse miss of the two – kicking with the wind, it had plenty of distance, but he just pushed it left.

by Seth_C on Dec 15, 2008 11:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wind

like i said in Ucrawford’s post…i was at the game yesterday and I couldn’t tell which way the wind was blowing. I asked the people around me and they didn’t know either. Yesterday was an awful day to be kicking and although he probably should have made the 34 yarder, the ball was right on target and then at the last second went about 15 yards left.

by skibum1537 on Dec 15, 2008 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Halftime Adjustments

I am wondering about Gailey…I find it a little hard to believe that someone who can do such a good job crafting a game plan that works well (with some less than stellar players) can’t make ANY adjustments at halftime.

I wonder if younger players have a harder time making the adjustments – they spend 6 days game-planning one way, and if things change, would young guys find some difficulty in making the switch?

It’s just speculation, but I can’t believe Gailey is THAT inept at adjusting.

by PVChiefsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:49 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you think

it’s all on the offense? Yes, we needed more first downs in the second half. But I think it was the complete implosion of our D that is to blame. Our O didn’t have much of a chance to get those first downs since our D wasn’t capable of stopping San Diego.

by Chiefs4Life on Dec 15, 2008 10:02 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not all on the offense

Our defense collapsed but also gift wrapped our only second half touchdown.

We have second half issues. Period.

by Chris on Dec 15, 2008 10:04 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I may be off base but from what I was able to gather from the games we have led at half time

the only adjustments the offense needed to make was to counter any adjustments made “at” half time by the opposing teams. Things were working pretty good through the first two quarters, but when the opposing teams are making their defensive adjustments, our offense can’t seem to “reevaluate” and come up with a viable working plan to play through the end of the game. I am not sure if it is all on Chan for that or not.

Our defense just sucks beginning with the coaches, ’nough said.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 15, 2008 11:11 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

12 first downs in the first quarter

3 the entire second half.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

The Chiefs need to be playoff contenders in 2009 for me to consider improvement. Clark wanted it in 2008...I'll give them an additional year.

by THE_TRUTH on Dec 15, 2008 11:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too much adjustment!

We had a large lead in the second half (large for us), and it seemed to me that we were playing to hold that lead, which is Herm’s style of play and there is something to be said for that. But we moved away from the spread that gave us the lead and the first downs and started ramming Larry through the line every down.

I love my team, but winners find ways to win, and losers find ways to lose. We’re seeing improvement, but that game seemed unloseable, didn’t it?

by bakerlee on Dec 15, 2008 12:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank God I left the game with 3 minutes left.

I thoroughly enjoyed the game and figured with 3 minutes left our 11 point lead was good for the win. I’m glad I did not stay to witness this.

by Vince D on Dec 15, 2008 9:58 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching a game like this...

it’s no wonder why ther Arrowhead was half empty.

by ROC 27 on Dec 15, 2008 10:10 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Carl heard around the concourse chanting, "If I rebuild it , they will come?"

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 15, 2008 11:12 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thigpen's decision making

Ok, I know I’m going to get grilled here, but does Thigpen’s decision making scare anyone else? He brings excitement to the games that we haven’t seen in a long time, but he doesn’t play smart. The pick in the endzone was entirely because he stares down Tony G like that’s the only receiver we have in the red zone. Somewhat understandable since our other receivers aren’t dependable. Then there was the final drive. Scrambled into the middle of the field with 30 seconds left and no time outs. Dumb play. Then made a short pass to the middle of the field. Dumb play. If San Diego hadn’t been morons themselves we wouldn’t have even had a chance to kick the ball. You can say staring down Tony G is because of youth and inexperience, but that final drive tells me Thiggy doesn’t understand the game very well.

by Chiefs4Life on Dec 15, 2008 10:18 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He Does Make Some Extremely Questionable Throws

But he’s also a second year guy and he’s still keeping the offense productive so you just have to live with a certain amount of that and write it off to growing pains. If he’s still throwing into triple coverage next year it’s a problem.

This is why it’s also a good idea to draft a QB with a first day pick in 2009. Because Thigpen might not be the answer…he might be more Derek Anderson than Tony Romo.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 10:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

He’s going to cost us point, but not as many as he puts up. As long as he progresses, it’s just the pain we must endure.

by NJChiefsFan on Dec 15, 2008 10:30 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Next Year

He needs to up his completion percentage and improve his TD/INT ratio. But for a 2nd year guy, he didn’t perform badly. We’ll see if he can build on that or if he regresses like Anderson did.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 10:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I wonder if a proven, reliable, experienced, twentieth century QB coach could help this issue?

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Dec 15, 2008 11:14 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully

I tend to agree with Whitlock that QB coaches and assistants should be younger guys looking to move up in the NFL (to coordinator and head coaching positions) as opposed to older guys looking to run out the string and get one more paycheck (like Dick Curl) unless those older coaches produce absolutely stellar results (which Curl hasn’t).

It’s a results-oriented league, and while Curl (to his credit) has produced an intriguing prospect in Tyler Thigpen, Thigpen’s the only viable NFL QB he’s produced and he definitely whiffed on Brodie Croyle in a major way.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 11:20 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Almost
The Chiefs almost, almost put together a complete game on both sides of the ball.

They’ve been doing that since week 1. It’s not an improvement if they’re performing just well enough to lose throughout the season.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 10:30 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I don't think

we’ve come close to putting together a complete game every single week. This was more close to being a complete game than, for example, the Falcons, Panthers and Titans games.

Of course, this boils down to just arguing about degrees of suckitude; no matter if we’re one play or 20 plays away from winning, we’re still not winning.

by Seth_C on Dec 15, 2008 11:33 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops

More close = closer.

Speak English very much gooder do I.

by Seth_C on Dec 15, 2008 11:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Worry About Grammar

On cold Monday UC brain no workee gooder without much hot caffeine beverage either. :)

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 1:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sitting behind the chargers bench

All I can say is wow, and Rivers is one of the GAYEST qb’s I have ever seen, I bet them guys hate his little gay ass

by ZachMartin2 on Dec 15, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Sister Heard From Rivers' Nanny That He's Actually One Of The Nicest Guys You Could Meet

She knows the nanny in a friend-of-a-friend sort of deal and the nanny apparently said that off-the-field he’s extremely friendly and courteous and a really good boss. Apparently married his high school sweetheart and they’re happily married with three or four kids (all daughters). He’s just one of those hyper-competitive guys who becomes kind of a jackass when things got going during a game.

"Going younger" is not the same as improving unless it's followed by tangible results. When a bad team keeps the same management team that ran them into the toilet then goes "young" by getting rid of all of their older players, and replaces them with young players who aren't showing much improvement, it's not a rebuild...it's a salary dump and "rebuilding" is just the marketing strategy for the chumps to convince them to keep buying tickets.

The Chiefs should win 5 to 6 games this year and no less than 4 for this season to be considered progress in any way. If he can't win at least 9 games next season, Herm is a joke.

by UCrawford on Dec 15, 2008 3:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take your approach to players

I don’t know him personally, so I have to take his on the field demeanor as to whether I like him or not. Clearly, he is Chief Douchy Doucherton of the Douchebag tribe. Playing against an opponent doesn’t help his case either, but seriously, I can’t stand the guy.

Thank you and so long Carl Peterson.

by IISaiNtII on Dec 16, 2008 12:58 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The youngsters look like they fell asleep in class today.

To blow an 11 pt lead in the final 3 minutes of the game. This is not basketball! The final minutes of the game was played exactly like a 2-12 team. Cincinnati and Detroit make some room the Chiefs are coming down to your corner.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Dec 15, 2008 3:16 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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